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Why the fuck isn't the government giving me a grant? A few days ago it just occurred to me how we could advance long distance space travel. Thinking in three dimensions instead of two.

Gravity machines. Think about it. A blackhole is nothing but a hole in the universe resulting from such a massive "bent" in space, that it looks like a gigantic hole in the three dimensions. In that "hole" is a cluster fuck of mass. You wouldn't see it, but your mass would clash with all the other mashed up mass that split apart from the intense gravity. Nothing could "live" in that mess. It's just a junkyard of unlucky mass. Therefore... the trick would be to propel one's self using gravity, without exceeding the limit to cause a blackhole effect. We are uncertain of how dense of a surge or how heavy a mass must be before it begins to cause that cosmic sinkhole. And frankly, it would be dangerous, (but exhilarating) to findout! Earth orbits around the sun, that's a safe bet. Earth is nowhere close to being dense enough in mass or gravity manipulation. Therefore, if we could somehow manipulate energy to resemble mass, rather then sheer force, we could "orbit away" rather then boom boom, shoot forward. Think of it as pushing yourself from a wall rather then using your legs to run. When dealing with physics, this actually makes more sense then the initial energy investment in running!

>> No.2650589

Without reading your thread I can tell you that the sad truth about space exploration is that, we have no reason to care about long distance space travel right now. We've got enough shit to take care of where we are.

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>>2650583
So the earth travels around the sun in a day. We measure a day differently then we would in space. So lets just say "one earth day". To keep track of how much your body would age under such a circumstance. We could travel 875,000 miles per earth day under such a system. That sounds very impressive. Quite frankly... it is. But it's nowhere near lightspeed travel. Light travels at 186,000 miles... PER SECOND... Thats 16,070,400,000 per earth day. Albeit, I think we'd want to avoid lightspeed travel for fear of triggering that blackhole and umm...DEATH!!! Because at light speed, I am uncertain if mass can even keep it's composition. Some argue light has mass, just very very little. Others argue it's just "pure energy". I'm not going to argue which one, just that it's probably safer to avoid finding out. I will say the idiot who claimed you can see the mass particles in swirls like a flashlight is too stupid to know what debris and dust particles are.

NASA's rocket ships travel at about 17,500 miles per hour. Totaling in at 420,000 miles per earth day. Thats a little less then half of what I'm proposing we could be capable of. And at that, I'm being very conservative with Earth's orbiting rate. Pluto rotates in six motherfucking days, and obviously doesn't snap like a twig. But baby steps man...

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>>2650587
>>2650583
Doubling our speed could give us a huge benefit as we conquer other planets, and learn more about them at twice the speed. I can only imagine what we could accomplish beyond that. It's really fun to think about how even as innovative as I'm thinking, thats only 1.643835616438356% of the capabilities we'd be capable of after we got that down packed. And that's the fastest orbiting planet (Oh sorry... "moon") in our solar system! I can only imagine how much farther we could go. While instant space travel may never exist. If we could go at this rate of travel, we could easily become a type 2 civilization. Traveling from planet to planet. Gathering minerals, occupying them, and being able to survive longterm as a species. If there is a lifecycle to the universe. IE: entropy on an astronomical scale, then we're still fucked. But we are exponentially less fucked. And I want to make sure other worlds were fucked first. All those homo and woman aliens get sent to the back of the space bus where they belong!!!

>> No.2650593

>>2650583

congratulations, you now know what the sligshot effect is. You now realise that this is a part of all inter-celestial missions and they have been using it since the 1950s. You are now aware that i was taught this shit when i was 15.

>> No.2650602

>>2650587

>pluto rotates in 6 days.

what the fuck are you talking about man? Pluto's orbital period is 120 years or some shit

>> No.2650603

It's just another way to accelerate - the problem with this is that objects with mass are the only known sources of gravitational fields.

>> No.2650605

That's fantasy not science. The government is right not to give you a grant for something you thought up on acid.

>> No.2650606

>>2650602
Presumably OP is too dumb to know the difference between a day-like rotation and a year-like orbit.

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>>2650606
What the fuck ever man. The point is, as long as we use gravity as a means of travel, we can super fucking fast and just have to avoid the magic number of light speed.

As long as we do that. We won't dematerialize, we won't create a super nova, and we won't create a time paradox.

>> No.2650624

>thinking in 3 dimensions instead of 2

>> No.2650630

Antimatter thrusters would be more efficient for sub-lightspeed interstellar travel.

>> No.2650632

you watched a show on the discovery channel, and now think you're a genius for restating it.

Building a gravity machine is the tough part, dipshit
>wai the fawk aint the guvmint gibbing me ah graantt

>> No.2650636

>>2650583

You won't get a grant because you are kid with no idea about physics and no ability to build such an ill conceived device with all the resources in the world. Why don't you write a sci fi book and sell it on kindle instead?

>> No.2650639

>>2650624
Just blew your mind didn't he?
Fucking pioneer

>> No.2650643

>gravity machine.

You clearly have no understanding of what gravity is, and what spacetime is. gravity is the bending of spacetime by matter. The more matter in a region, the more spacetime bends, the more 'gravity' is present. You cannot 'create' gravity without a fucking mothershit ton of matter. 'Gravity machines' like centrifuges that simulate gravity, do not actually create gravity at all. They just effect the astronauts inside the centrifuge with the induction of centrifugal force.

/teenage bullshit

addendum: even if your idea has anywhere near 0.01% possibility, you still wouldn't get a grant because you wouldnt know the first thing about beginning to design something like that.

>> No.2650646

2.5/10 for the responses OP, but seriously, GTFO of my /sci/.

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FOR FUCK'S SAKE
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/3052712/

>> No.2650687

Dear OP, you have the right mindset for science. Please pick up a science book and expand on your knowledge before jumping onto funky theories.

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okay look, from your layman's understanding, and thus incorrect, of black holes, I simply cannot take you seriously.

You are of the category "dancing Asuka-rex on Yotsuba's back" to me at this moment

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