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2405847 No.2405847 [Reply] [Original]

Is the observer part of the world he observes?

>> No.2405851

How can he observe it if he's not?
inb4 magic

>> No.2405848

yeah

>> No.2405853

Photons are bouncing off his body into what he is observing.

>> No.2405854

It depends on your perspective.

>> No.2405855

>>2405847
Necessarily. All observation is physical in nature.

>> No.2405866

>>2405853
i think you got that backwards

>> No.2405868

No. The observer is the internal being examining the external world. Problem, Oneists??

>> No.2405872

>>2405854
could you develop more?

the question was if he is part of the observed reality

>> No.2405895

>>2405868
If you think your internal being is separate from your body, lemme shove this knife in you a few times and see if your internal observer responds.

>> No.2405907

It is connected to the external world, but isn't a part of it.

>> No.2405908

>>2405847

basically, yes. The observer is within the system he is observing.

>> No.2405926

>>2405907
That's gibberish. We could replace the word 'it' referring to an observer with ANY OTHER NOUN and have an equally sensible sentence.

Air is connected to the external world, but not a part of it.
Trees are connected to the external world, but not a part of it.

>> No.2406064

the observer (consciousness) is pretty similar to everything in this universe.
i might as well be a giant sun.

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>>2405926
>>2405926

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IMAGINATION CAME BEFORE KNOWLEDGE
IMAGINATION CAME BEFORE KNOWLEDGE
IMAGINATION CAME BEFORE KNOWLEDGE
IMAGINATION CAME BEFORE KNOWLEDGE
IMAGINATION CAME BEFORE KNOWLEDGE
IMAGINATION CAME BEFORE KNOWLEDGE
IMAGINATION CAME BEFORE KNOWLEDGE
IMAGINATION CAME BEFORE KNOWLEDGE

>IMAGINATION CAME BEFORE KNOWLEDGE
>IMAGINATION CAME BEFORE KNOWLEDGE

>It did, it did, it did, it did.

>> No.2406161

are u inside the tank of the fish you're looking at?

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>>2406161

>> No.2406206

>>2405847
Yes, because the mere act of observing something affects it.

/thread

>> No.2406208

Srsly, guys. I had high hopes for /sci/ when I stumbled upon it a few weeks ago. Thanks for dashin' em. I'm outtie.

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>>2406208
>>2406208
>high hopes for /sci/

>> No.2406222

Does your observing collapse wavefunctions in the world you're observing?
If so, then yes.