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At least he didn't say Psychology.

I also just want to elaborate on the importance of identifying causes and the lack of rigor that psychiatry puts forth.

For example, say I notice you are tired, you lack motivation, you desire to sleep, and you have trouble concentrating. I take note of your symptoms and prescribe you a new medicine made from cocaine. You perk right up and are cured. Therefore, you have a mental illness right?

Well, you displayed a lot of symptoms. And I gave you medicine and it cured you. But you don't have an illness. In fact, I failed to mention how you haven't slept in 24 hours. So I failed to identify the *cause*. This is exactly what psychiatry does.

Sadness is caused by not having a job, not having many friends, not having a sense of purpose in life. It is not caused by a brain deficiency.

oh hey scientology

More seriously, in order to qualify for a mental disorder, the particular mental disorder has to be strong enough to significantly interfere with your life. Without that very, very important qualification, yes, everyone would have a mental disorder. And that's the cause of «first-year psych student syndrome» where everyone who takes a psychology class thinks they have a mental problem, and why only qualified psychiatrists should be using the DSM to actually diagnose someone.

>>2368332
>>2368300
GO BACK TO THE CHURCH THETAN!

>>2368332
Plenty of people with clinical depression have still had the problem even with a great job, great friends, and a sense of purpose in life. Actually, many of them get the sense of purpose in life only with the help of antidepressants.

>>2368338
Yes, this is what I'm talking about in disregarding the null hypothesis. You offer no evidence and pretend your arbitrary cutoff points (i.e. at the point it starts interfering with your life it's a mental illness) has any scientific validity.

>>2368339

I'm not a scientologist. I really don't know how you can think regular people can't disregard psychiatry as pseudoscience. It's not hard. Did you get to the part where I mentioned caffeine disorder? It's almost a joke. If someone told me I need to stop drinking coffee because I'm mentally ill, I would tell them to please stop driving because you are clearly not competent and are a danger to other drivers.

Similarly, when I mention how caffeine disorder and you brush it off nonchalantly, I have to wonder just how unintelligent you are. How do you dress yourself everyday? How do you drive? Saying a rainbow can support my car like a bridge has more logic in it than your nonchalant posting.

>People think Psychiatry is evil because it costs money
>They fail to realize it has saved the lives and sanity of hundreds of thousands of people, myself included
>Mfw

>>2368507
...and we are all SO much better off for it...


pppffft

>>2368332
You know that one thing a psychiatrist is supposed to do is attempt to find any other things that could be causing the symptoms first right?

>>2368507
see:
>>2368535

It doesn't matter how valuable something is if idiots refuse to ascribe value to it.

Nature does not love you. Nature will kill you the first chance it gets. Use chemistry to put nature in its place.

Much of this anti psychiatric propaganda is from the scientologists.