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2344005 No.2344005 [Reply] [Original]

Theoretically, you can go to some Fine Arts program and be able to get into Medical School. In reality, I don't know.

Would going into Engineering then applying for medical school be any of a handicap in getting in? Compared to say, being in Life Sciences?

I'm considering Biomedical Engineering, but does that really matter once you have the pre requisites for Medical School?

>> No.2344017

>>2344005

Heres another option: take undergraduate medicine.

Not all universities have medicine as a graduate degree.

>> No.2344049

>>2344005
Actually, coming out of a fine arts program would give you a leg up over people from the sciences. Med school admission boards fucking cream themselves over "unique" candidates.

>> No.2344057

I've heard good things about engineering grads going into med school.

>> No.2344065

>>2344049
Good point, and it works the other way around as well. I read somewhere that math and science undergrads do well in law school applications.

>> No.2344066

>>2344017
The requirements for Undergraduate Medical Education is a minimum of 3 years (University of Toronto).

Pardon my ignorance, I thought Medical School was just a general term for any medicine education.

>> No.2344077

>>2344066
Interesting. So, America is alone in making its doctors stay in school for over a decade?

>> No.2344088

>>2344005
>Would going into Engineering then applying for medical school be any of a handicap in getting in? Compared to say, being in Life Sciences?

Yes, of course. I doubt many engineers could become medical doctors. Engineers generally do really fucking bad on the MCAT.

>> No.2344089

>>2344077
You mean in other countries, people can go straight into undergrad med out of High School?

>> No.2344096

>>2344088
Fine arts would be better suited?

>> No.2344102

>>2344088
It's not right to generalize like that. There is no great pre-med major. As mentioned, a unique one fit to your interests makes you an appealing candidate, but you need great test scores to go with them.

>> No.2344127

So the only advantage being in Life Sciences is because it's almost like killing two birds with one stone for the MCAT?

So is that why they might consider a person from Fine Arts with around the same MCAT better?

>> No.2344134

>>2344127
Not that I'd ever consider Fine Arts..

>> No.2344147

>>2344127
It's just unique and impressive to them. That someone from so far away a field would excel in pre-med courses and score high on the MCAT makes them think "Well, if they can do all that and also write an honor's thesis on Baroque Architecture, I think it's safe to say we have a modern Da Vinci on our hands."

Everyone loves a Renaissance man.

>> No.2344155

>>2344134
You should. If you have the talent, you could turn medicine into an art.

>> No.2344183

where i am from, 'fine arts' says I didn't know what to do at university, and this is just a stepping stone because I did poorly in high school.

>> No.2344193

>>2344183
/sci/ thinks that anyone who studies engineering is a faggot in it for money. It's just not fair to generalize.

>> No.2344196

one of my distant cousins was an engineering major. After his four years, he decided he didn't want to be an engineer and got into med school. He's a doc OP, long as your grades are good and you study for the MCAT's you can do it

>> No.2344210

>>2344193
The overwhelming majority of engineers do it for the money. Don't believe me? Go to your local univserity and see for yourself dumbass

>> No.2344216

>>2344193

I apologize, it's just a stereotype, problem is I knew a few people that did it for that reason, so my view is tainted.

I'm an engineer, love it & the pay.

>> No.2344219

>>2344210
Did I ever contest that assertion? I put it forward because it was an accepted stance here. It's accepted because it's at least partly grounded in reality, but are there exceptions?
>>2344196
The experience of this poster's cousin suggests that there are.

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2344225

>>2344216
>I'm an engineer, love it & the pay & the gay

Sorry, I left that out

>> No.2344232

>>2344225

Well i was able to pay someone to remove the gay, so it's hetero tastic from that day on, you were there i take it?

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>>2344219
>but are there exceptions?

Do you realize how fucking stupid you sound. Why would anyone do engineering for anything but the money?

Would a McDonalds worker do that shit if they didnt get paid? Work a janitor clean up shit, cause he enjoys it? LMAO

>> No.2344241

Chemical Engineering has a fairly equal ratio of men and women.

no problems there

>> No.2344243

>>2344237
I suffer from the knack.
needless to say, I pass all day long inventing useless shit in my head.
really, you scientist don't know anything that isn't your category

>> No.2344246

oh god seriously.

>> No.2344249
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2344249

>>2344232
>pay someone to remove the gay

We call that "swallowing cum" in the US.
And indeed, plenty of engineers pay to have their cum swallowed by other men.

They "swallow the gay".

>> No.2344255

Haha, yeah cursed by the knack as well, and I am glad that is the case.
Hamburg. oaliss

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2344264

>>2344243
>I suffer from the knack.

Don't worry, america is finally starting to accept our kind. We finally got don't ask don't tell revoked! Congrats faggot!

>> No.2344273

>>2344243
>I suffer from the knack.

Do you think this knack is genetic or a choice? How did your parents react to your knack? Do you ever think you will adopt kids?

>> No.2344276

>>2344264
Way to go faggot, what good is science if it isn't applied?
Nothing.
and by knack I meant I have an interest for technological things, to say, an inventor.

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2344279

>>2344255
KNACK THEAD!

LOOK AT THAT SWEET ENGINEERING KNACK!

>> No.2344282

>>2344279
>calls someone else faggots
>keeps porn on his computer
stay ironic, sci

>> No.2344289

>>2344276
>I meant I have an interest for technological
things, to say, an inventor.

Cool, but what does that have to do with the field of engineering?

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2344291

>>2344282
STOP THE ENGINEERING HATE!

>> No.2344293

>>2344289
what do you mean what?

How do you think Edison did it?

>> No.2344296

>>2344291
>pro-homosexual images in his computer.

>> No.2344314

oh god what happened

Anyways, thanks for guidance, it was very helpful. A trip to my guidance counselor wasn't very helpful.

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2344313

>>2344296
>Implying an engineer wouldn't have pro-homo pics on his computer

>> No.2344337

>>2344293
>what do you mean what?

Please learn engrish

>> No.2344360

Sorry about the thread.

On a serious note though it seems to me that alot of engineer graduates never become, ah, proper engineers or whatever, as in not many end up doing the cool shit we all want to, as in one guy I know of, his first job was designing Christmas cards, lame eh.

Is this part of the problem?

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2344390

>>2344293
Thomas Edision was a scientist, inventor, and a bussinessman. He was not a engineer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Edison

Serioulsy, what does engineering have to do with an interest for technological things or invention? Do you even know want an engineer does or studies?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but an engineer isn't the same thing as an inventor.

>> No.2344406

People have gotten into UofT medical school having majored in engineering at UofT. What you do as undergrad doesn't matter once you cover your science prerequisites. Everything outside of your grades and degree is much more important than your grades. Grades on their own might get you an interview, but not much else.

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2344418

>>2344360
>alot of engineer graduates never become, ah, proper engineers

What did you expect? Tens of thousands of kids graduate with an engineering degree every year. The market is severly oversaturated. And to make matters worse, you can now do engineering certifications instead of a 4 year traditional degree!

If you have a vocation that pays well, and requires little if no skill, of course you will get a job crisis.

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2344426

>>2344406
>Everything outside of your grades and degree is much more important than your grades.


Not sure if trollin or stupid.

>> No.2344499

>>2344005

Starting to think that maybe in different countries engineer means different things.

Certificate, great just what is needed.

>> No.2344535

>>2344499
Engineering is the same shitty vocation in any country

>> No.2344546

>>2344418
>the market is severely oversaturated
It's really not, actually. at least it's nothing like the tenured professor field that 90% of /sci/ thinks it can into
>you can now do engineering certifications instead of a 4 year traditional degree
the only thing i've heard of like this is for engineering technology, which is not the same as engineering.

>> No.2344547

>>2344418
This is straight trolling, but it is true that a lot of countries don't really consider engineering to be anything but a "get me a job" program.

>> No.2344575

Lots of people I know from the Liberal Arts program I graduated from are in med school now, but most had to take pre-med undergrad courses first.

>> No.2344600

>>2344499
> Starting to think that maybe in different countries engineer means different things.

Very much so. In English-speaking countries, it retains connotations of some guy oiling the joints on a railway engine. OTOH, in much of continental Europe, it's a protected title (i.e. it's illegal to call yourself an engineer if you don't have specific, recognised qualifications; note: MCSE doesn't count).