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already saw this thread last night, everybody behind this line is trolled


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Oh look, it's this thread again.

http://green-oval.net/cgi-board.pl/sci/thread/2317698

So you consider human symbolic creations which have no antecedent in reality to have an impact outside our own mind and actions? No, you are the one delusional.

Tautoulogy is the trolliest troll that has ever trolled.

din't mind me, just saging a tautologic thread

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No way a human being could be as stupid as OP. Confirmed Poe.

Atheism is not a faith. It is a lack of faith. Not having faith is not faith. Not collecting stamps is not a hobby. Atheism is not the Big Bang theory and it is not the theory of Evolution. Science is not a religion, it is a method for discovering new knowledge. Atheism is only a religion in the same way that not believing is Santa Clause is also a religion. The burden of proof lies on people claiming that a god exists. There is no purpose for our existence, only causes. Morlity is independent of religion. Actions done under the belief that punishment awaits are impure. "Good" and "bad" are only human perceptions.
Religion is the epitome of ignorance, it is a deadly ignorance. It is an abomination and insult to reason. It is a political tool used to control large populations. It is a security blanket for those that fear death. It is a cheap answer to questions that science cannot at this time explain. It is the result of a lack of information. Religion is holding mankind from it's potential. It still exists because of tradition and an emotional reponse to reject reality.

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I would say that whatever belief makes one as dogmatic, narrow-minded and "holier than thou" as Tautologic is, is probably the most destructive belief in the world.

Also, sageing this crap.

>>2321222

Someone can decide to rely on (belief in); culture, tradition, other people`s accounts, it`s own feeling, it`s own experience, extreme-scepticism, sceince, etc etc...
All of these aspects are reasonable things to rely on depending on your (philosophical) view on life.

People can see one or a combination of these aspects as fundemental and therefor must belief in a god or not, in order to fallow his/her own logic.

And this precisely why atheism is a belief rather than a lack of belief.
It is not the question of God existing or not which they lack belief in, it is the reasons for God existing or not which they believe in.

Note that being religious is just as reasonable as atheism.

>>2321222

Someone can decide to rely on (belief in); culture, tradition, other people`s accounts, it`s own feeling, it`s own experience, extreme-scepticism, sceince, etc etc...
All of these aspects are reasonable things to rely on depending on your (philosophical) view on life.

People can see one or a combination of these aspects as fundemental and therefor must belief in a god or not, in order to fallow his/her own logic.

And this precisely why atheism is a belief rather than a lack of belief.
It is not the question of God existing or not which they lack belief in, it is the reasons for God existing or not which they believe in.

Note that being religious is just as reasonable as atheism.

>>2321222

Someone can decide to rely on (belief in); culture, tradition, other people`s accounts, it`s own feeling, it`s own experience, extreme-scepticism, sceince, etc etc...
All of these aspects are reasonable things to rely on depending on your (philosophical) view on life.

People can see one or a combination of these aspects as fundemental and therefor must belief in a god or not, in order to fallow his/her own logic.

And this precisely why atheism is a belief rather than a lack of belief.
It is not the question of God existing or not which they lack belief in, it is the reasons for God existing or not which they believe in.

Note that being religious is just as reasonable as atheism.

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Atheist: Sees no merit in any of the arguments for god, and so remains unconvinced of that proposition.

Agnostic: Sees some merit in some arguments for god, but remains unconvinced by any of them.

Deist: Sees enough merit in arguments for god that they are convinced such a thing exists, but are not, or believe they cannot be certain of the details.

Theist: Sees such merit in the arguments of one faith in particular that they are convinced by that alone, to the exclusion of other faiths.

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Tautoulogic = epic godwin

>>determinism an ideology.

Stopped reading.

>>2321238

That's pretty much fair. Until you consider teapots and unicorns. In which case, you have to admit that belief in the non-existence of these things requires just as much thought, and is based on just as much evidence, as belief in them.

Belief that god does not exist is of the same sort as belief that astrology is incorrect, or that Russel's teapot orbits the sun, and so on. Belief that god does exist is of the same sort as believing that astrology is correct, or that Russel's teapot orbits the sun.

Definition of defenition: A sudden understanding of one's self as one is thrown out a window.

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>An ideology can be thought of as a comprehensive vision, as a way of looking at things (compare worldview), ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology

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There are those of us that oppose all forms of unquestionable authority, whether religious or secular in nature. It makes no difference if some tyrant says god told him to do it, or whether he claims science urges him to do it.

Religion is not only groundless superstition, it is also claims by the clergy that they can tell you what to do on ultimate authority. Communism says it has ultimate authority too, but justifies it with science. Astrology is mere superstition, with no real power to compel action.

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omg tell me where you live and i`ll come to punch your teeth out and fracture your eye socket.

hitler war catholic you stupid fuck

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>Religion is not only groundless superstition

i fundamentally disagree with that

>>2321275

omg tell me where you live and i`ll come to punch your teeth out and fracture your eye socket.

hitler war catholic you stupid fuck

This is now a peppercat thread

>>2321275
lol he mad because mean people proves him wrong times and times again

>>2321275

Give me one solid reason why religion is not a groundless superstition.