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2312917 No.2312917 [Reply] [Original]

A question for any person who believes in a God: If your God is "perfect" what is the point of prayer? Would not prayer be considered useless to a being that is perfect?

>> No.2312920

Everything comes from those that came before, God has GREW, our family tree GREW, at the beginning there was an amount, this amount was GOD at that time, then as the FAMILY bonded, more family members were added, enlarging God. So yes, WE DID create the universe, and WE are GOD.
Atheists use circular logic more than Theists.

1. All things are related.
2. All things together, the whole family, is God.
3. You can observe God empirically, in fact, the process of Empirical observation is observing God.

Atheists typical reply:
"But but.. THOR, and OTHER GODS. FLYING SPAGETTI MONSTER AND UNICORNS"
"But God doesn't exist"
"All things are related that doesn't compute"
"UHHHHH NO IM NOT LISTENING"
"TROLL ALERT, SAGE!"

?

>> No.2312924

sage

>> No.2312926
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2312926

you might be better asking "if god is omniscient, why pray? he already knows what you are thinking, what you are thankful for, and what you desire, so there is no need to actually waste your time and say it all out loud in prayer, as god will already know it all"

>> No.2312925

Look at that picture, focusing on 'one' 'man'

>> No.2312935

>>2312920
TROLL ALERT

>> No.2312940

>>2312920
Hey, I actually liked this comment, religion doesn't look thaaaaat stupidy to me anymore (but praying for miracles and stuff does).

>demoniacal shisty
lol captcha

>> No.2312945

Constant communion with God. Prayer is not magical formulas to have things go our way, which is a common misconception by a large part of religious people.

>> No.2312950

>>2312926
>LOL Holocaust

Not a religious fag here, but humans caused it, not God.

>> No.2312960

This was one of the things that never made sense to me when I was a Christian.

>> No.2312963

>>2312950

In a world in which god is all-powerful and all-knowing, everything is his fault, ultimately.

>> No.2312977

>>2312963
Does that mean you are not responsible for your own actions?

>> No.2312986

>>2312977

It means there isn't room for free-will.

>> No.2312983
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>>2312950

god is supposed to be omnipotent, yet he didnt stop the holocaust happening.

in old testament times he fuckin worked, bitches (...apparently)

smiting, and pillars of salt, and destroying city walls with his awesome power. etc.

if he was real, i think he would have intervened in WW2.

>> No.2312992

>A question for any person who believes in a God: If your God is "perfect" what is the point of prayer? Would not prayer be considered useless to a being that is perfect?

We pray for our sake, not for the sake of God.
By concentrating on the divine through prayer we elevate ourselves to God. Doing this regularly helps transform us into better people. We are in effect training ourselves to ignore that which is transient and impermanent.

>> No.2312996

>>2312977

well lets see, god isnt real, so...you ARE responsible for your actions

if christians are so sure they are right, they should all just an-hero right now to shortcut there way to heaven.

why wait out several boring years of life if you think a much greater existence (heaven) is there waiting for you.
fucking get on it!

>> No.2313003

>>2312996

>if christians are so sure they are right, they should all just an-hero right now to shortcut there way to heaven.
Our bodies are not ours to kill. Suicide is murder of the self.

>> No.2313012

>>2312983
We couldn't stop the holocaust happening because there was an enmity (Government) put between us, pitting us against each other, we were fighting ourselves, we didn't have the unity required to repent. This is stupid and you're stupid for posting it. Everyone who read it is now dumber for having read it, and it's a bit more hatred fuel'd in the upcoming massive explosion. This is purely paradoxical - I learned from Nas, the rapper, he knew wayyy before me, his story is occuring in real time, in the real world, whilst this is occuring in the cyber world.

>> No.2313016

>>2312920
which god?

>> No.2313031

>>2313003
>Our bodies are not ours to kill. Suicide is murder of the self.
So keep plowing your fields, paying tribute to Pharaoh, and stop asking so many questions. You will be rewarded for this life of suffering serving the state AFTER you die.

Oh wait... this is actually starting to sound like an ancient government scam...

>> No.2313038

>>2312983
You should also remember that people still did whatever the fuck they wanted, even with miracles and signs.

>> No.2313056

>>2313038
>even with miracles and signs.
Maybe some people just saw through the BS religious lies, even back then?

>> No.2313066

hurp! god is timeless, but hes too busy to help you right now. trollface.jpg

>> No.2313076

>>2313031

>You will be rewarded for this life of suffering
Christ's death on the cross revealed to us the salvific power of suffering. Through God's grace, pain and suffering are turned into goods. Don't you see? Suffering IS my reward.

Glory to God

>> No.2313089

>>2313066

>but hes too busy to help you right now
The fact that God is involved in every particular contributes to His greatness.

>> No.2313093

>>2313076
>Suffering IS my reward.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadomasochism

>> No.2313098

STOP DEBATING GOD
STOP DEBATING GOD
STOP DEBATING GOD
STOP DEBATING GOD
STOP DEBATING GOD
STOP DEBATING GOD
STOP DEBATING GOD
STOP DEBATING GOD
STOP DEBATING GOD
STOP DEBATING GOD
EACH TO THEIR OWN
EACH TO THEIR OWN
EACH TO THEIR OWN
EACH TO THEIR OWN
EACH TO THEIR OWN
EACH TO THEIR OWN

>> No.2313103

>>2313089
the fact that he apparently doesn't answer some peoples prayers shows that he is lazy for having infinite time on his hands.

>> No.2313107

>>2313093
Ah, but Christ has shown me how to transcend pain. I do not wallow in it as the masochists do. For me, pain is but a steppingstone.

>> No.2313114

>>2313103

>he apparently doesn't answer some peoples prayers shows that he is lazy for having infinite time on his hands
God gives us what we need, not what we want--though the two may, of course, coincide.

>> No.2313118

>>2313098
>each to their own
>christfags killing eachother over it

>> No.2313116

Is it just me or do the sentences made by religion fags tend not to make sense (even grammaticality)?

>> No.2313132

>>2313114
by that i assume you mean everyone except starving africans lol.

oh and why do the koch brothers need to control and manipulate the oil industry the way they do?

>> No.2313146

>>2313003
fine, act carelessly then, and hope to die by natural causes faster.

>>2313012
you'll get nothing and like it!


>Everyone who read it is now dumber for having read it
i award you no points. and may god have mercy on your soul. pic related

>>2313114

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>>2313146
forgot pic, and fucked up the end of my post...damn it.

>> No.2313169

>>2313146

>fine, act carelessly then, and hope to die by natural causes faster.
Vice does not befit one made in God's image.

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>>2313169

meh, fine, live normally, die of natural causes, presume you are going to heaven, be wrong your entire life.

and not a single fuck was given that day.

pic is long, but a good read. enjoy

>> No.2313199
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2313199

Everything comes from those that came before, God has GREW, our family tree GREW, at the beginning there was an amount, this amount was GOD at that time, then as the FAMILY bonded, more family members were added, enlarging God. So yes, WE DID create the universe, and WE are GOD.
Atheists use circular logic more than Theists.

1. All things are related.
2. All things together, the whole family, is God.
3. You can observe God empirically, in fact, the process of Empirical observation is observing God.

Atheists typical reply:
"But but.. THOR, and OTHER GODS. FLYING SPAGETTI MONSTER AND UNICORNS"
"But God doesn't exist"
"All things are related that doesn't compute"
"UHHHHH NO IM NOT LISTENING"
"TROLL ALERT, SAGE!"

!ddd

>> No.2313247

>>2313186
You are too bitter. Take it easy!

>> No.2313259
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>>2313247
im not bitter, im just being very 'matter-of-factly
and a realist.

>> No.2313439

>>2313259
Still think you are angry at something. Tell me about your family.