/sci/ - Science & Math

A perfect storm of culture, weather, resources, and colonial exploitation. Africa will the the last continent to move out of the third world - though parts of Africa are doing just fine.

niggers.

...that is all

>>2312285

Go back to /int/

Shit takes time
Rome wasn't built in a day

It wasn't built by niggers either

>>2312275
> Why, even after pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into the continent, is it still such a hopeless shithole?
The money is spent on the wrong things, or stolen. All of it. Microloan programs are in the right direction, but not much money goes there.
http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_reveals_new_insights_on_poverty.html

People in Africa starve with food rotting on the docks because their leaders don't give a shit.

>build KFC in Africa
>????
>PROFIT

>>2312290
>Implying niggers haven't been shown to have an iq of 70

>>2312324
Just stop. We all know why what you're saying is bullshit. It is neither funny, nor rage-inducing, nor clever.

Just stop.

Well, it could be a racial thing.

I'm undecided.

>>2312332

>>2312296
Watch the second half. That's interesting stuff.

>>2312332
>We all know why what you're saying is bullshit.
Do we?

Since when?

>>2312335
Start around 10:00.

>>2312324

there is variation in there IQ, as is to be expected. it is a bellcurve, like the IQ graph for white people, but our bell curve is to the right of the one for niggers, with some overlap, but not much.

+10 internets for anyone who posts the graph with the bellcurves for whites vs niggers.

>>2312347
>>2312285
Shut up, tripfag.

>>2312347

>>2312290
>>2312332

'oh noes, racism! aaaaahhhh! that is wrong and bad!'

fuck off and grow a pair you fucking pussy. you're on 4chan, start acting like it.

>>2312353
awesome, thanks for delivering.

...so niggers average at just above 80 Iq... interesting.

>>2312351

nah, fuck you! (pic related)

>>2312360
I pity you.

>>2312373

im a realist. there is difference between races, its a fact.

ITT: A stormfront tripfag is samefagging

>>2312367
EK

I am disappointed. As a /sci/entist should you not ask for proof instead of blindly believing random bellcurve charts?

Less than 2% of the American population has accurately been tested. The percentage for Americans of African descent is even smaller. How can you claim these results to be accurate, when there is no mention of methodology or sample size or sample location?

>>2312367
Don't forget those niggers have some white in them. African niggers are full retard and score even worse.
Aboriginals score even worse at 60-65
Congolese pygmies score 50-55
They live in environments where surviving is more important than being able to thunk reul gud

>>2312367
>so niggers have an average IQ above 80

That's blacks in America probably, who tend to have about 20% European ancestry. Sub-Saharan Africans are lower, but it could be because of environment.

/sci/ - Stormfront

>>2312399
Facts - conservative propaganda

>>2312380
Certainly there are differences, that is as plain as the color of ones skin, however that does not change the fact that you are using very poor sources.

An example would be
"30% of black males have been incarcerated for drug use" fact
"black males are potheads" opinion/stereotyping

Please not my quote labelled fact is not my opinion, I made the statistic up for sake of discussion. Please do not hold me accountable for false information.

>>2312402
Or do you mean liberal? It switches so often.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations

Some nigger countries have IQ around 60s, making them effectively retarded.

You disappoint me /sci/. You, of all people, have a better chance of changing the world for good. You have the intelligence, you have the methods and knowledge needed to see the truth.

Alas, as it always was - /sci/ is infected with trolls.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
Now go away. All of you.

they don't like freedom,
I mean democracy,
you know where they let corporations do whatever they want
also countries with 100s of tribes with different language and "culture"

>>2312353
It's true! Look at these IQ statistics stratified by race!

Seriously though, I understand criticism of the concept of IQ. How can intelligence be objectively measured. Nevertheless I realize that despite these flaws IQ is a meaningful measurement. To disregard IQ testing as worthless as long as blacks continue to score lower than other races is unscientific. It is religious. Why should a totally different group of people, who are different in so many ways, necessarily have the same brains as us. Wouldn't it be more surprising if their brains were exactly the same as ours? That doesn't make one race of people superior or inferior to the other. Just different.

>>2312421
The majority of us recognise the fact that blacks are less intelligent

>>2312446
lol
As though we could conduct /sci/ polls free from samefagging, or have even attempted to do so.

They still don't have a unified language.

>>2312442 implying graph is related to any actual study

>>2312475
Neither does Europe. It's a factor, but it's more than that. That said, a lot of Africans speak a lot more languages than I do, for that very reason. I only know English and Spanish.

Bumping Hans Rosling's talk, the last half is relevant.
>>2312296

pascal is just butthurt because he's a nigger.

>>2312490
>implying you aren't EK

>>2312493
>implying you aren't pascal

heres one reason, this is due to their low intelligence and high testosterone levels. these are scientific facts, also their smaller brains are a scientific fact.

and this thread proves what a shithole /sci/ has become
also tripfag, say hi to your mother for me

>Why is Africa so underdeveloped?

The original reason is that frankly life is too easy there. That region resembles the original wild habitat of homo sapiens the most, so people who live there haven't had to develop themselves a whole lot.

>Why, even after pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into the continent, is it still such a hopeless shithole?

Because foreign aid is like trying to refill a well by pouring water into it. Whites cannot change the place for the Africans, it'll return to original state as soon as Whitey leaves (this is what happened to liberated African colonies). The change has to come from the Africans themselves, so that they understand why it's good and what they must do to preserve it.

>>2312495
>implying I am

>>2312503
>implying you aren't

>>2312442
>no y axis
>bell curves dont touch x axis, area is infinite
>mfw

>>2312504
>implying pascal and EK aren't the same person

>>2312498

Brain sizes have no correlation with intelligence.

>>2312498
that's not what first generation african immigrants looked like. first generation african immigrants were slaves.

>>2312502
>The original reason is that frankly life is too easy there.
oh god WHAT? You act they don't have to work for food there.

>>2312481
I was joking about the graph, r-tard.

>>2312490
Pascal is Dutch

I'm not against the idea that certain ethnic groups might be more or less intelligent than others, I am just against the idea that poor and fault arguments are allowed to be used.

If you and EK are correct, then proper documentation and evidence should be brought forth. And if there is none than a proper study should be performed. What you are doing now is barely better than saying vampires exist because you read a book by Anne rice.

>>2312493
i like pascal, and i dont think he is a nigger (very few niggers on /sci/ i would estimate...)
also, i dont samefag.

>>2312511
lol yes they do, you just cant say for certain that this is why niggers and women are dumber.

>>2312513
so were asians, in fact their working and living conditions were worse, as was the prejudice against them.

>>2312511
That's wrong

>>2312522

Don't think now, think 5,000 years ago. Or 10,000.

Compare Tunisia and, let's say, arctic tundra. Which place weeds out the weak and slow-to-adapt faster?

Jungles are easy modo for the hunter-gatherer. Too easy. They didn't have to invent advanced agriculture like the mediterraneans, etc.

>>2312528
I like you too EK. You are quick with solving math problems, and once agreed to submit a handwriting sample for a study.
>>2312525
I apologize, I do not always understand sarcasm in text.

I don't mind the idea of minor racial variation either. It's obvious that there are more black NBA players for a reason.

But the incredibly shoddy science ITT is shameful, backed by some of the most dishonorably un-scientific motives possible.

>>2312542
No. Brain size does not correlate with intelligence - this is a common and woefully uninformed misconception. Also, Chinese immigrants in the US were never slaves.

>>2312556
Although they were treated pretty badly, I admit. As were Indians, the Irish, the Poles...

>>2312527
the real pascal, or you? (you talk about yourself in 3rd person?...)

did you read the wiki page? study has been done apparently.

>The original reason is that frankly life is too easy there. That region resembles the original wild habitat of homo sapiens the most, so people who live there haven't had to develop themselves a whole lot.

this is true, evolution accelerates if the species undergoes difficulty. this is why a bacterial colony can evolve antibiotic resistance very quickly if they are exposed to antibiotics. but the bacteria usually evolve much slower, staying mainly static in current form.

>>2312556 Chinese
Yes/no

Tough history subject. Many things to say. Can't take the time right now.

>>2312556
They were discriminated against just as much as blacks. Why don't you study some history instead of trying to white-wash the past?

>>2312556
do you even know what correlation means? it doesnt it will be 100% applicable to everything like some natural law. if you dont know this by now you really need a new hobby other than being a "science loving" atheist teenager

>>2312586
Not to mention that slavery had been abolished by the time the Chinese started immigrating.

>>2312542
women arn't dumber, potentially a new human will have the same chance of inheriting all intelligence genes, the only thing that is different, is whether they have the Y chromosome or not, or an extra X chromosome, and the Y chromosome is basically a 'make male' instruction, intellogence genes arn't stored here. so men and women are equally intelligent.

>>2312586
No. NOT "just as much". They were treated terribly, I agree. But doesn't the "slavery" line make a difference to you?

>>2312588
Your post is vacuous.

>>2312556
>Also, Chinese immigrants in the US were never slaves.

Am I the only one who doesn't understand why slavery even matters? You folks are acting like the entire negroid race is somehow eternally crippled because a couple hundred thousand of them were enslaved a couple hundred years ago.

Hell, EVERY race on earth has been enslaved at some point or another since taking slaves was a very common practice in the ancient era. It was a long time ago. Get over it already.

>>2312618
You're misconstruing the intent of the statement. If you follow it back, it is originally a reply to
>so were asians, in fact their working and living conditions were worse, as was the prejudice against them.

I'm mexican and a student at Caltech

u jelly?

>>2312608
hormones affect intelligence and who knows what else does. also womens brains are different, in structure, size, and design which affect probably affects intelligence in some way. women do have lower IQs than men on average, but its not by much, however their stupidity is observable in other forms than just problem solving skills.

truth is no one really knows about genes and intelligence, much less about the brain in relation to them. the things im saying are just common sense to anyone who actually is intelligent.

>>2312643
i am very good at problem solving, and i'm a girl.

also, im somewhat of a tom-boy, and i am very logical and scientific, and rarely emotional at all (apparently women are usually more emotional than men, and men are usually more logical)

My I.Q is 147, and I'm the whitest of the white, I'm fucking ginger, I'm also making $80k a year, feels good man if you want to make money get involved with marine renewable energy's.

This thread really harms my hope for humanity.

>>2312682
>apparently women are usually more emotional than men, and men are usually more logical
thats correct. well do you consider yourself bi, lesbian, or a "man trapped in a womans body?"

>>2312634
yes I jelly

>>2312575 third person

Sorry, when not using my real name there is often a disconnect between myself and the name I have assumed. As such I often have the bad habit of referring to my online incarnation by name.

In this case though I truly am Dutch. Although if I was speaking of pascal booshaart he too is Dutch. Pascal eirhan is hiatian. Blaise pascal is french. Etc etc

>>2312682
subjective statements of self promotion do nothing but attract the ire of others. stop waving your flag around and find some other means of inflating your ego.

>>2312695
Yeah, the most unfortunate thing about being intelligent is this sort of shit dwells upon you,

women are fucking stupid whores who need to stay in the fucking kitchen.

>>2312695
I envision a day when people will accept that blacks are less intelligent

>>2312711
Can't say shit like that, because its RACIST durp.

I feel for you though, they really are stupid, not even being racist I've never ever met a smart black.

>>2312708
studies show that dumb people often believe they are very intelligent. maybe youre just a nigger loving communist dumb ass and you dont even know it and thats why you get all upset when you hear facts about reality and race?

>>2312708
Nice to find a kindred spirit.
But I try not to let it get me down. We've made leaps and bounds over the past millenium, the past century, and the past decade. All countries are rapidly becoming first-world, and international brinksmanship is making way for international economic partnerships. It will take some time, and it will be a bumpy ride, but I'm not too worried about humanity.

That's why I was posting the Hans Rosling stuff earlier. Actually looking at the stats instead of the FUD and headlines is very encouraging.

>>2312720
Oh the irony.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

>>2312609

Every race were slaves at one point, when they didn't have nigs to use as fodder they used their own lower class citizens. It's no wonder blacks were used as slaves since even now they have barely any civilization comparable to all modern civilizations. You can argue that slavery is bad but as a result the offspring of slaves are now living here in a much better place

>>2312727
do you know what irony means? instead your post should read: "oh look i found something similar to what you described"

>>2312720
Nah dude, I fucking love money, I make lots of it because I gots me the smarts. Dealwithit.jpg

>>2312721
And yeah, if you look into it the media really play it up quite badly, I've worked in Nigeria which is still fucking awful but Capetown and Mumbai aren't all that bad at all.

>>2312729
>Every race were slaves at one point
?
There are so many fallacies underlying your post that it's hard to separate them.
1. There are no hard racial boundaries in history, once you stop looking at things from the 10,000 foot level
2. A "race" is never in slavery, just some individual members of a "race"
3. Again, races are not individuals
4. Every "race" was in slavery? Individuals from most major ethnic groups, sure...

>>2312745
This continues to be an excellent example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

>>2312697
no, straight
...well, mainly straight, ive kissed some of my girlfriends when drunk and stuff...but thats probably not particularly rare.

>>2312749

I didn't really understand what your point was but my point is that because of slavery the ones who descended from them are now much better off

>>2312709
fuck you, ive come to expect this kind of ignorant shite to be spouted occassionally by anons. i dont let it get to me.

but enjoy never being laid. ever
you bigotted virginfag.

>>2312609
Chinese immigration to the United States didn't start to pick up until around the 1850s and as you may know (although from your posts, I'm guessing you don't) slavery was abolished after the conclusion of the Civil War which also happened during the 1850s. Therefore, they were on relatively equal footing in terms of social status. Sure many negroes worked in conditions that one might say is slavery in all but name but so did the Chinese. Read up on the mining and railroad construction done at this time. You really underestimate the plight of the 19th Century Chinese-American immigrant. And don't say they were treated no worse than white immigrants like the Irish because that's not true.

>>2312762
That's an entirely new point, and one that doesn't make sense. How does prior slavery help?

OHHHHH... You're saying that slavery introduces "lower" races to "civilized" society.

The two aren't inseparable you know - cultural exchange and slavery.

>>2312778
You're talking to a person you've imagined, and it's not me. The Chinese were treated terribly, sure. But saying they were treated as badly as blacks is disengenuous, as the blacks were in slavery and the Chinese weren't. That there was no legal opportunity for the Chinese to be enslaved doesn't change the fact that such treatment did not occur for them.

Besides, it's hard to beat the treatment of the Chinese by the Japanese, if you want to talk about abuse.

>>2312762

i know, i was /r/ing a specific pic, but no1 responded.
it shows on the left a nigger decended from someone who is enslaved and brouht to america )wealthy, nice cloths gold chains, smile on his face)
and on the right a nigger who was decended from someone who wasnt enslaved. standard starving african, standing next to a mudhut, looking unhappy.
and the caption is something like "slavery: you're welcome"

if anyone has the pic, deliver plz.

>>2312776
>ive kissed some of my girlfriends when drunk and stuff

thanks for proving my point u skeezer

>>2312275
>post question that can be used as a vehicle for racist ideology (whether intended or not)
>most popular thread of the day!

over 9000 hours in ms paint

u jelly of the master race?

>>2312830

that doesn't make me stupid.

>stupid whore

whore eh? well i wouldnt personally say that, although i dont see any need to be strictly monogamous.
judge me as you like, i dont care.

>>2312857
typical butthurt /sci/ fag that only wants to talk about hippie science like global warming or how jesus sux cuz evolution is realz detected

>i only like science when it validates my beliefs and doesnt hurt my feelinz

>>2312790
I'm disingenuous? Are you stupid? Are you trolling? I just told you that slavery ENDED after the Civil War and it is only around that time that Chinese immigration to the US became significant anyway so it is not true that blacks were slaves during this period. You have never read anything about Chinese immigration to the US so shut up until you do.

The Japanese treatment of the Chinese that you mention talked about happened in WWII which is a little thing called a war, you know, where people kill each other, and which didn't even start until the 1930s. I could just as easily say that the treatment of blacks was nothing compared by the treatment of Germans by the US in WWII. How is that for meaningless statements?

>>2312884
being a woman makes u stupid

>>2312912

orly?

funny how when i was at school for GCSE's 4/5 of the top grades were girls, and for A levels 3/5 of the top grades were girls. (top 1 was a girl in each case)

im not saying women are more intelligent, my school is only 1 example, so it doesnt represent global data, but it does clearly prove that "all women are stupid" is false.

>>2312944
Prove that you are a girl.

>>2312909
do you even believe in evolution?

also, your tripname makes no fucking sense, and looks retarded.

>>2312944

False, women are all dumb whores. One dumb woman posting on an image board won't change that.

>>2312951

prove whether you are male or female.

>>2312805
Here it is, you racist fuck.

>>2312955
dumb question, evolution happens but what people disagree on is whether it accounts for all life. /sci/ fags like to pretend thats not what the argument is about and instead cry about the bible.

and my user name makes perfect sense unless youre some brainwashed MTV drone who thinks "saying gay like that is not nice stop it u big bigot"

>>2312951
EK is a stupid woman. I seen her pics on here before. She's ugly as fuck too.

Hairy arm = male

>>2312989
>call me a racist fuck
>anon delivars

...wtf? schizophrenic much?

anyway, thanks very much! saved!

>>2312991
>>2312993

>Implying EK isn't smarter than both of you combined.

>Implying she's ever posted pictures on here.

>>2312618
>European- and American-owned fortresses and ships obtained enslaved people from African slave-traders, though some were captured by European slave-traders through raids and kidnapping.[3][4] Most contemporary historians estimate that between 9.4 and 12 million[5][6] Africans arrived in the New World,[7][8] although the actual number of people taken from their homes is considerably higher.[9][10][11]

>In Senegambia, between 1300 and 1900, close to one-third of the population was enslaved. In early Islamic states of the western Sudan, including Ghana (750–1076), Mali (1235–1645), Segou (1712–1861), and Songhai (1275–1591), about a third of the population were slaves. In Sierra Leone in the 19th century about half of the population consisted of slaves. In the 19th century at least half the population was enslaved among the Duala of the Cameroon and other peoples of the lower Niger, the Kongo, and the Kasanje kingdom and Chokwe of Angola. Among the Ashanti and Yoruba a third of the population consisted of slaves. The population of the Kanem (1600–1800) was about a third-slave. It was perhaps 40% in Bornu (1580–1890). Between 1750 and 1900 from one- to two-thirds of the entire population of the Fulani jihad states consisted of slaves. The population of the Sokoto caliphate formed by Hausas in the northern Nigeria and Cameroon was half-slave in the 19th century. Between 65% to 90% of the population of Arab–Swahili Zanzibar was enslaved. Roughly half the population of Madagascar was enslaved.[4][5][6]

>>2312961
/sci/ equivalent of "tits or gtfo"

>>2312991
>atheismIsGay
first four definitions
1.
having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music.
2.
bright or showy: gay colors; gay ornaments.
3.
given to or abounding in social or other pleasures: a gay social season.
4.
licentious; dissipated; wanton: The baron is a gay old rogue with an eye for the ladies.

see picture on the left

>When British rule was first imposed on the Sokoto Caliphate and the surrounding areas in northern Nigeria at the turn of the 20th century, approximately 2 million to 2.5 million people there were slaves.[7] Slavery in northern Nigeria was finally outlawed in 1936.[8]

>Zanzibar was once East Africa's main slave-trading port, and under Omani Arabs in the 19th century as many as 50,000 slaves were passing through the city each year.[33][34] Most historians estimate that between 11 and 18 million African slaves crossed the Red Sea, Indian Ocean, and Sahara Desert from 650 AD to 1900 AD,[35][36
>It was also not uncommon to turn male slaves, both African and European, into eunuchs via castration to serve as guardians to the harems.[38] The Moroccan Sultan Moulay Ismail "the Bloodthirsty" (1672–1727) raised a corps of 150,000 black slaves, called his Black Guard, who coerced the country into submission.[39] Slavery in Morocco was finally outlawed in the 1930s.[40]

>>2313037
i lold

>Slavery as practised in what is modern Ethiopia and Eritrea was essentially domestic. Slaves thus served in the houses of their masters or mistresses, and were not employed to any significant extent for productive purpose. Slaves were thus regarded as second-class members of their owners' family,[9] and were fed, clothed and protected. Women were taken as sex slaves. They generally roamed around freely and conducted business as free people. They had complete freedom of religion and culture.[10] The first attempt to abolish slavery in Ethiopia was made by Emperor Tewodros II (r. 1855–1868),[11] although the slave trade was not abolished completely until 1923 with Ethiopia's ascension to the League of Nations.[12] Anti-Slavery Society estimated there were 2,000,000 slaves in the early 1930s out of an estimated population of between 8 and 16 million.[13] Slavery continued in Ethiopia until the Italian invasion in October 1935, when the institution was abolished by order of the Italian occupying forces.[14]

>The Bantus are the descendants of people from various ethnic groups in what is modern-day Tanzania, Malawi and Mozambique who were brought to Somalia as slaves in the 19th century. It is estimated that the Bantu in Somalia number around 80,000 (1970 estimate) out of a total population of over 11 million, with most concentrated between the Juba and Shabelle rivers in the south.[18]

>>2313013
EK at best is a freshman undergrad while I'm a working Mechanical Engineer for a big oil company. Therefore I'm smarter and wealthier than EK.

>>2312993
im not stupid, i was one of the most intelligent in my schoolyear,
and i havent ever uploaded pics of me.
>>2312991
>evolution happens but what people disagree on is whether it accounts for all life.
evolution explains the diversity of life. it is a scientific fact.
this also means that creation didnt happen, as animals have been changing in form over time, wheras creation is god making all the animals fully formed, and unchanging.

>Elikia M’bokolo, April 1998, Le Monde diplomatique. Quote:"The African continent was bled of its human resources via all possible routes. Across the Sahara, through the Red Sea, from the Indian Ocean ports and across the Atlantic. At least ten centuries of slavery for the benefit of the Muslim countries (from the ninth to the nineteenth)." He continues: "Four million slaves exported via the Red Sea, another four million through the Swahili ports of the Indian Ocean, perhaps as many as nine million along the trans-Saharan caravan route, and eleven to twenty million (depending on the author) across the Atlantic Ocean"[21]

>Medieval slave trade in Europe was mainly to the East and South: Byzantine Empire and the Muslim World were the destinations, Central and Eastern Europe an important source.[22] Slavery in medieval Europe was so common that the Roman Catholic Church repeatedly prohibited it—or at least the export of Christian slaves to non-Christian lands was prohibited at, for example, the Council of Koblenz in 922, the Council of London in 1102, and the Council of Armagh in 1171.[23] Because of religious constraints, the slave trade was monopolised in parts of Europe by Iberian Jews (known as Radhanites) who were able to transfer the slaves from pagan Central Europe through Christian Western Europe to Muslim countries in Al-Andalus and Africa.[24] So many Slavs were enslaved for so many centuries that word 'Slav' became synonymous with slavery. The derivation of the word slave encapsulates a bit of European history and explains why the two words (slaves and Slavs) are so similar; they are, in fact, historically identical.[25]

>>2313011
>schizophrenic

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

>>2313061
>EK at best is a freshman undergrad
>Therefore I'm smarter and wealthier than EK.

but clearly not smart enough to avoid making uneducated assumptions.

>According to Robert Davis between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates and sold as slaves to North Africa and the Ottoman Empire between the 16th and 19th centuries. The coastal villages and towns of Italy, Portugal, Spain and Mediterranean islands were frequently attacked by them and long stretches of the Italian and Spanish coasts were almost completely abandoned by its inhabitants; after 1600 Barbary pirates occasionally entered the Atlantic and struck as far north as Iceland. The most famous corsairs were the Ottoman Barbarossa ("Redbeard"), and his older brother Oruç, Turgut Reis (known as Dragut in the West), Kurtoğlu (known as Curtogoli in the West), Kemal Reis, Salih Reis and Koca Murat Reis.[27][28]
>In 1544, Hayreddin Barbarossa captured the Ischia, taking 4,000 prisoners in the process, and deported to slavery some 9,000 inhabitants of Lipari, almost the entire population.[29] In 1551, Dragut enslaved the entire population of the Maltese island Gozo, between 5,000 and 6,000, sending them to Libya. When pirates sacked Vieste in southern Italy in 1554 they took an 7,000 slaves. In 1555, Turgut Reis sailed to Corsica and ransacked Bastia, taking 6000 prisoners. In 1558 Barbary corsairs captured the town of Ciutadella, destroyed it, slaughtered the inhabitants and carried off 3,000 survivors to Istanbul as slaves.[30] In 1563 Turgut Reis landed at the shores of the province of Granada, Spain, and captured the coastal settlements in the area like Almuñécar, along with 4,000 prisoners. Barbary pirates frequently attacked the Balearic islands, resulting in many coastal watchtowers and fortified churches being erected. The threat was so severe that Formentera became uninhabited.[31][32]

>>2313084
if your not a freshman then why are you so stupid?

>Several historians, such as João C. Curto, have made important contributions to the global understanding of the African side of the Atlantic slave trade. By arguing that African merchants determined the assemblage of trade goods accepted in exchange for slaves, many historians argue for African agency and ultimately a shared responsibility for the slave trade.[58]

>In 1807, the UK Parliament passed the Bill that abolished the trading of slaves. The King of Bonny (now in Nigeria) was horrified at the conclusion of the practice:
>>We think this trade must go on. That is the verdict of our oracle and the priests. They say that your country, however great, can never stop a trade ordained by God himself.[60]
>The slaves came from many different sources. About half came from the societies that sold them. These might be criminals, heretics, the mentally ill, the indebted and any others that had fallen out of favour with the rulers. Little is known about the details of these practices before the arrival of Europeans, and so it is difficult to tell if the number of people considered as undesirables was artificially increased to provide more slaves for export. It is believed that capital punishment in the region nearly disappeared since prisoners became far too valuable to dispose of in such a way.[61]

>>2312944

You really can't point to GCSE and A level as a proof of intelligence. Girls scored higher because they tend to go for the arts, and going for the artys at A level is equivalent to an A for showing up. There were no girls in my physics class, none in my math, 4 in my chemistry.

Also, due to butthurt feminists who claim that exams are unfair on girls who can me PMSing during them and boys superior exam performance, mandatory coursework modules were added to most subjects, increasing girls chances to succeed at the bullshit subjects they took like photography and English.

>>2313095
stupid am i? really?
indicate a recent stupid post i have made, expalin why it is stupid, thoroughly prove it wrong etc

and i dont just mean spelling mistakes, i mean content.

do this, or STFU and GTFO

>>2313111
ur stupid for letting yourself get trolled you whore

OP is probably a nigger.

>Another source of slaves, comprising about half the total, came from military conquests of other states or tribes. It has long been contended that the slave trade greatly increased violence and warfare in the region due to the pursuit of slaves, endemic warfare was certainly common even before slave hunting had added such an extra inducement.[61]

>For the Atlantic slave trade, captives purchased from slave dealers in West African regions known as the Slave Coast, Gold Coast, and Côte d'Ivoire were sold into slavery as a result of a defeat in warfare. In the Bight of Biafra near modern-day Senegal and Benin, some African kings sold their captives locally and later to European slave traders for goods such as metal cookware, rum, livestock, and seed grain. Previous to the voyage, the victims were held in "slave castles" and deep pits where many died from multiple illnesses and malnutrition. Conditions were even worse in the Middle Passage across the Atlantic where up to a third of the slaves died en route.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Britain_and_Ireland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonisation_of_africa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_era_of_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Migration_%28African_American%29

>funny how when i was at school for GCSE's 4/5 of the top grades were girls, and for A levels 3/5 of the top grades were girls. (top 1 was a girl in each case)

see this >>2312727

>>2313008
look at that manly arm hair.

>>2313070
actually its not a scientific fact, not even close to being a valid theory either. im not going argue creation with you because i dont care about it, but youre wrong anywa: for the atheist, the only possibility is that nature accounts entirely for itself, thats why they try to find a way to make everything be explained through random or natural causes. for everyone else though, there are a myriad of possibilities.

>>2313165
Dunning–Kruger effect doesn't apply there. i didnt say that i personally was in the top 5, and didnt refer to my own ability at all.

>>2313008

lol i wasnt serious, and i wasnt responding to you anyway. the poster was anonymous, not pascal.

WHY SO TRIPFAG

>>2313217
pascal accepts all challenges, even those not directed at him.

>>2313204
>actually its not a scientific fact, not even close to being a valid theory either
you are wrong
it is a scientific theory. scientific theories are made up of facts.
>im not going argue creation with you because i dont care about it
do you believe in creationism? did god make the universe or not?
>thats why they try to find a way to make everything be explained through random or natural causes.
never random. but natural, yes.
the only other explanation is supernatural, which is by definition unknown, so it doesnt help us. just a spiritual/magical 'i dunno' dressed up as 'magic man dun it!'
its just a geuss, no science or reason behind it at all.
>for everyone else though, there are a myriad of possibilities.
sorry, for everyone else except atheists?
lol, no there isn't, they believe in 1 possibility, that god magically makes everything, from nothing, and has magically always existed, and is hiding for some reason, and never shows any evidence that he exists for some reason....makes perfect sense.

Our colonial forebearers raped the continent of its resources, brought in manufactured goods and technology that the locals couldn't afford, left, and never bothered to set up viable economies.

Also, religion and dickheaded tribalism. Sudan is having a referendum today to split the country. Apparently it's even going peacefully.

>>2313223
accepts all challenges rly?

kk, post face plz (INB4 lol hipocrite/pottamous, you are unwilling to upload your face so dont ask etc etc)

That is not a challenge, that is a request.

I'm half black and have an IQ that is well above average.

You jelly, Stormfags?

>>2313204
that's-nice.jpg

Evolution is fact. It is well supported by evidence, just as much as any other respected area of science, such as physics and chemistry.

i'm an african(from botswana), and honestly, i think we're unsuccessful because we try to keep our culture and modernize ourselfs at the same time.
you cant have your cake and eat it too.

>>2312275
Maybe they are like that because they choose it. Just because some people don't live a chrome-polished high tech lifestyle doesn't mean they are inferior. The only thing I dislike about some of the African countries' governments is the genocide and heinous amounts of rape and murder.

But as to lifestyle (excluding crime and the such), let them have their culture. You sound like the people that colonized North America.

>>2313253
very well
[spanish accent] i challenge you to post your face in this thread *cocky smile* do you accept? or are you a coward? [/spanish accent]

*slaps pascal across the face with a glove*

>you are wrong
>it is a scientific theory. scientific theories are made up of facts.

yea its a theory in the same sense that i can say unicorns created the universe is a theory. it is not a VALID theory though, not even close. why? because we dont know the first thing about how life began. how can you have a valid theory that accounts for all life when you dont even have the most basic understanding of life itself, and yet the theory YOU subscribe to tries to explain an even yet more difficult question. its totally absurd and illogical.

>never random. but natural, yes.

derp derp ill pretend to not know what you meant by random lets play semantics

>the only other explanation is supernatural, which is by definition unknown, so it doesnt help us. just a spiritual/magical 'i dunno' dressed up as 'magic man dun it!'
its just a geuss, no science or reason behind it at all.

why are you assuming that the truth has to be helpful to you? seems kind of anthropocentric to me (ironic, thats what atheists accuse theists of being). supernatural is also not the only alternative to "nature did everything by chance derp"

when atheists search for a natural cause for something, they are not being true scientists. they are not following the evidence where it leads, they are trying to find or create evidence for the way they think things should be. people like this have constantly stifled scientific progress throughout history.

>>2313406
>yea its a theory in the same sense that i can say unicorns created the universe is a theory.
option 1: trolling.. EK response: fuck off you cunt!
option 2: doesnt understand the difference between a 'scientific theory' and the word 'theory' used casually by laypeople meaning 'idea' EK response: suggest - read 1st chapter of 'evidence for evolution - richard dawkins'
>because we dont know the first thing about how life began.
evolution has no relevance to the origin of life, this doesnt deduct from it at all, i terms of validity for explaining the variation of life.

>derp derp ill pretend to not know what you meant by random lets play semantics
natural selection is often confused by religiousfags, and sometimes dubbed 'random selection'
the mutations are random, yes. but the process of weeding the useful mutations from the bad (natural selection) , is very much non random.

...

atheists are usually very open minded. we dont believe in god because there is no evidence, so it is foolish to jump to that conclusion, we lack belief for the moment, but are willing to change our minds if new evidence ever comes in. it is thesist who are often close minded and unwilling to change.

>>2313462
*theists

>>2313299
I'd say this. There's some push from some African politicians for an "African Renaissance" to turn Africa into a someday-superpower, but they lack the intellectual confidence to do it. Even the phrase "Renaissance" suggests European influence. The culture is kind of fucked. Everything you do you do with the knowledge that somebody else is watching, judging, and has already done it. Also, good solid investment just isn't materialising, instead Africa just gets aid which only solves very very short term problems.

Also, the Cold War kind of fucked things up with the US and Soviet Union sponsoring Islamic extremists, fascists, communists, and everything in between.

>pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into the continent

because hundreds of trillions of dollars have been sucked out of it already

>>2313312
There are 4 possible answers

1, I ignore /sci/ for the evening and pretend to have not seen your post, though my posting this would make that difficult.
2. I post a picture of a famous pascal
3. I post a picture of my face obscured by a mask or other object
4. I post a picture of my face

>>2313462
>doesnt understand the difference between a 'scientific theory' and the word 'theory' used casually by laypeople meaning 'idea'

i know very well the difference, i am merely equating the idea of evolution accounting for all life with the same outrageous stupidity of a theory like "unicorns created the universe"

>evolution has no relevance to the origin of life, this doesnt deduct from it at all, i terms of validity for explaining the variation of life.

youre essentially saying "i dont know how life works but i know how life became all these things" lol, even dawkins doesnt say shit that retarded. jk he says worse

>atheists are usually very open minded. we dont believe in god because there is no evidence

actually there is tons of evidence, you would just try to rationalize how its not evidence. this is typical of the "open minded" atheist

>>2312347
>>2312353
>>2312367
>>2312380
Sigh. I only took psychology in A-level but even I can tell you that the intelligence / race IQ charts are deeply flawed. The last major test and comparison that I'm aware of was done in the 1920s by two scientists whose methods are considered deeply flawed.

Did you know that according to those guys Jews also have a shitty IQ compared to whites. No doubt because they asked fresh immigrants right off the boat who couldn't speak a word of English. Chinese are way ahead though. This is probably because the rote learning practiced in Chinese schools lends itself very well to western IQ tests.

IQ tests are themselves rather suspect, as any regular /sci/ poster will explain to you. We've had so many threads on why they're bullshit I shouldn't need to get into it.

Somehow I doubt that pic was taken 2000 years ago..

>>2313539
>i took psychology

stopped reading right there. enjoy your judeo-feminist candy coated view on reality

>>2313524
>evolution accounting for all life
evolution doesnt 'account for all life' any more than the germ theory of disease accounts for gravity. they are completely seperate areas of science.

>actually there is tons of evidence
really? try me. proper sources, properly cited.
bible verses wont convince me, the bible is written by humans. if there IS evidence of god, i am sure we would all be aware of it, if he chose to reveal himself, i am sure it would be in a fucking obvious way.

>>2313531
wow, didnt expect you to delivar.
the real you? option 4 here? >>2313519

This is a terrible troll thread you guys.

Only posting mud huts as if that's Africa's only style of building and architecture? COME ON

>>2312759
tits or gtfo

>>2313566
It certainly isn't a famous pascal

>>2312608
>women arn't dumber
>arn't

What are you, twelve?

>>2312353
>There is no such thing as a gifted/savant black person
>bitcheslaughing.jpg

Its amazing how your arguments can be torn apart by simple logic.


As for OPs question, barbarians from Europe and Germania (U mad stormfags?) invaded during a time of economic decline, this caused the the dark ages which spread to Africa, luckily Europe experienced the Renascence (which brought us up to about par with the Asia and South America, BTW).


Perhaps a better question would be, why are European races such fuckups?

>>2313577

your origionality astounds me, you fuckwit
>>2313034

>>2313539

>I only took psychology in A-level

And it shows! Psychology is a joke A-level, barely above Media Studies.

>The last major test and comparison that I'm aware of was done in the 1920s by two scientists whose methods are considered deeply flawed.

There have been lots of recent tests done.

>Did you know that according to those guys Jews also have a shitty IQ compared to whites. No doubt because they asked fresh immigrants right off the boat who couldn't speak a word of English

The recent tests say the complete opposite.

Your opposition to the race-IQ charts is backed up by incorrect premises and, at the risk of Bulverising, is probably the result of having grown up in a politically correct society in which most people will reject any link between race and intelligence in the same way that creationists will reject evolution. I'll wager that no amount of studies, no matter how well they were done, would ever convince you. You'd always find some (real or imagined) flaw that you would then exaggerate to the point where you could dismiss the whole argument.

Of course, if a study where done that said what you wanted to hear, you'd embrace it whole heartedly even if it were filled with glaring flaws.

>>2313600
>what are you, twelve?
[sarcasm] oh no! i used a contraction! for shame!! [/sarcasm]

“I’m like anyone else on this planet — I’m very moved by world hunger. I see the same commercials, with those little kids, starving, and very depressed. I watch those kids and I go, ‘F–k, I know the FILM crew could give this kid a sandwich!’ There’s a director five feet away going, ‘DON’T FEED HIM YET! GET THAT SANDWICH OUTTA HERE! IT DOESN’T WORK UNLESS HE LOOKS HUNGRY!!!’ But I’m not trying to make fun of world hunger. Matter of fact, I think I have the answer. You want to stop world hunger? Stop sending these people food. Don’t send these people another bite, folks. You want to send them something, you want to help? Send them U-Hauls. Send them U-Hauls, some luggage, send them a guy out there who says, ‘Hey, we been driving out here every day with your food, for, like, the last thirty or forty years, and we were driving out here today across the desert, and it occurred to us that there wouldn’t BE world hunger, if you people would LIVE WHERE THE FOOD IS! YOU LIVE IN A DESERT! YOU LIVE IN A F–KING DESERT! NOTHING GROWS OUT HERE! NOTHING’S GONNA GROW OUT HERE! YOU SEE THIS? HUH? THIS IS SAND. KNOW WHAT IT’S GONNA BE A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW? IT’S GONNA BE SAND! YOU LIVE IN A F–KING DESERT! GET YOUR STUFF, GET YOUR SHIT, WE’LL MAKE ONE TRIP, WE’LL TAKE YOU TO WHERE THE FOOD IS! WE HAVE DESERTS IN AMERICA — WE JUST DON’T LIVE IN THEM, A–HOLES!” - SAM KINISON

>>2313603
originality aside, the rules are the rules, and you are not an exception.

>>2313563
>evolution doesnt 'account for all life' any more than the germ theory of disease accounts for gravity. they are completely seperate areas of science.

playing semantics again are we? evolution does not account for all life after the point of origin. it is not a scientific fact, as you claimed earlier, at all. not even close. the only thing we know is that evolution happens, thats it. again, as an atheist, you have to, and do, claim evolution accounts for everything (passed the point of origin derp), because its all you have to fall back on. this is why atheism is a closed minded and scientifically disingenuous position, and why you also share those qualities.

>>2313617
No, you misspelled a simple contraction, here let me spell it out for you:

>are+not
>aren't

It is not
>arn't

I'm assuming the reason you hate literary majors is because you failed first grade spelling, correct?

Oh, and is it really that hard to capitalize your "I"s?

>>2313621
I MAKE the rules!

>>2313620
>blame past niggers failure on environment
>whites move into africa, haiti, etc. and make them rish thriving countries
>blacks kick them out and now the same rich countries are impoverished shit holes yet again
>blame the environment again

the liberal atheist religion in a nutshell

>>2313630
>it [evolution] is not a scientific fact
>the only thing we know is that evolution happens, thats it.

make-up-your-fucking-mind.jpg

>as an atheist, you have to, and do, claim evolution accounts for everything
you dont tell me what i have to do, and you are wrong anyway, as ive already said, evolution only explains the diversity of life, its not even that central to atheism, and it doesnt need to explain 'everything'

>>2313641
You are hopeless.
Do not claim yourself as a cumdumpster unless you plan on delivering tits, it's just attention whoring in that case.

>>2313666
you just keep arguing in circles and pretending not to be aware of semantical clarifications ive already made. im done

>>2313667
not a cumdumpster, and not attention whoring.

and disrespectful little dickheads like you arn't good enough for me

>>2313637
grammar nazi detected
you know what i mean, so stfu, if i get the message across, that is good enough for me.
pic related

>>2313676
correction, you might not be pretending. i forgot i was argung with a chick.

>>2313676
>im done

course you are

i'm still waiting on that evidence...

>>2313659
ummm sam kinison was a preacher for a lot of his life. I'm not sure if he renouced god or somthing but I know at one point he was the futhest you can get from atheist

>>2313681
If you're a woman, you're a cumdumpster; there are no exceptions.

If you post that you're a woman, and then do not deliver tits, you're an attention whore; there are no exceptions.

>>2313681
fine, y use grammr @ all then, its nt leik ppl cant undrtand me or anythin, rit?

EK confirmed for aether without class.

>>2313702
I would rather prefer face, tits are rather uninteresting objects that don't say much about his owner (mostly), but I will just go with the crowd.

>>2313732
As I do not currently have any studies going on involving people's faces I would prefer a handwriting sample.

Actually I do have one thing EK qualifies for,
1. Did you watch My little ponies, or own a my little pony when you were young?
2. Do you have a tattoo?

>>2313732
>his owner
>tits

>>2313773
problem?

>>2313702
>If you're a woman, you're a cumdumpster; there are no exceptions.
so 'woman' and 'cumdumpster' are synonyms to you?
>you're an attention whore
orly? why would i want the attention of a sexist bigot who talks out of his arse?
fuck you
also, by your logic all males must post their penis's or GTFO. or are we using double standards here? the rules dont apply to men right?

>>2313725
okay, point taken. i'll try to use correct grammar.

>>2313732
you'll go with the crowd!? typical sheep. i despise you.

>>2313800
>bawww double standards baww why for women and not men baww
>claims to believe in evolution and natural selection

>mfw

>>2313744

i do owe you a handwriting sample, but im tired and in bed and too lazy to find a pen/too lazy to move at all except to type.

i'll answer your questions
>1: my little pony
never watched or owned one. i was never much of a girly girl. like i said before: tom-boy

>2. tatoos
dont have one. not yet at least. i probably wont ever get one, i wouldnt want any permanent alterations to my body that i couldnt easily change back. if i like a picture, ill just set it as my desktop background. a tatoo on myself i wouldnt even get to see anyway, so the tat wouldnt be for my benefit.
...do guys like tatoos on girls? ive heard them called 'tramp-stamps' before, and were considered unnatractive. but i mainly hang out with the geek-crowd. perhaps opinions differ amongst the other cliques.

>>2313800
>double standard for men
>4chan
Welcome to 4chan!
On 4chan, there are no women, (or femanons, but that's debatable) only cumdumpsters.

>>2313813
i can be scientific and still be in favour of equality between the sexes.
obviously men and women are different, but we should have the same rights.

>>2313823
> mfw EK

>>2313823 tramp stamp

only applies to tattoos on the lower back.

Thank you for participating in my survey. Results so far show that women who watched/owned my little ponies are more likely to have tattoos. I believe it is because the ponies have tattoos

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/11/29/the_african_miracle

>>2313845
no problem.

interesting hypothesis.

>>2312275
Rome was the capital of the fucking roman empire.
A picture of Rome vs a hut from Africa. Good example, bro! You seem to be a gifted person.

>>2313836
no you cant, because men and women are not equal. this is a scientific fact. if youre so "pro equality" why arent you fighting for womens rights to be in front lines in the army or why arent you protesting against sex-segregated restooms? or sex-segregated sports leagues?

>>2313691
>>2313684

>mfw a militant religiousfag gets told by a chick

This thread is gold

>>2312618
>>2312618

not my people. we were the one's taking the slaves in the first place.

barbary corsairs ftw

>>2313845

AW SHIT DID SOMEONE SAY PONIES

>>2313872

You don't really have to FIGHT for stuff you support man. I doubt it's that big a deal for her.

Shit I support me some chunky soup but am I gonna go out and protest that healthy choice label ruining my favorite meal in a can? Nah, I'll just buy some spaghetti-Os or something.

>>2313891
ssssssh
its ok little pony, go back to bed.

>>2313906

Maaaan, why'd you have to get my hopes up like that

whatever, enjoy your religion argument

>>2313847

>>2313912
Do ponies and kitties get along?

>>2313872

are you still here you fucking bible-thumper?

...

also, you are fucking retarded. stop talking to me.

>>2313872
>no you can't [believe that men and women have equal rights], because men and women are not equal
lolwut
>no you can't think a loaf of bread and two apples are equally valuable, because bread is not fruit

>>2313917

Of COURSE they do!

I really hope I fucked your throat at one point EK, its probably the only time you have ever quit talking in your life

>>2313953

>>2313918
whats wrong? i thought you believed in science? science proves women have lower IQs than men, cannot survive certain physical traumas men can, cannot lift the same weight or run as fast as men can, and the list goes on.

also i thought you liked playing semantics and misrepresenting the other persons case? guess you can dish it but cant take it. typical atheist.

>>2313926
how are bread and apples equally value if they dont cost the same? obviously society has decided one is more valuable than the other.

>>2313926
how can bread and apples equally have equal value if they dont cost the same? obviously society has decided one is more valuable than the other.

>>2313973
My understanding was that women had a smaller deviation, but slightly higher average.

>>2313993
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-405056/Men-intelligent-women-claims-new-study.html

>>2313980
Cost is a measure of demand and supply. Morality is not the result of demand and supply.

>>2313973
Morality is not the fittest get more rights. Morality is not social darwinism. No atheist thinks that. It takes religion to believe the evil that natural = moral.

Why is Norway so underdeveloped? Why, even after pouring hundreds of millions of oil money into the country, is it still such a depressing shithole?

>>2314003 new study

I don't like new studies, they do not fit into me preconceived notions about life, and require me to think and reevaluate. So much effort.

just kidding I will read it later.

>>2313993
yeh, i think i have heard that before as well.

...im sleepy. goodnight.

>>2314035
>goodnight just in time to avoid the article that shatters my ridiculous beliefs about equality. looks like science didnt work out too well after all ;_; it was great for rebelling against mommy and daddy though... i wonder if god will still take me in

>>2313993
my understand was that
>pic related

>>2314045 20000 university students

I'm not sure thats a proper sampling.

>>2314049
ummm... how did you mistake 100,000 for 2,000?

>>2314049
everyone has an excuse and a rationalization when it challenges their beliefs

>>2314017
I'm just going to come right out and say this is Russia's fault. I'm not going to back up or explain my position here, but still I'm going exclaim that this is Russia's fault.

>>2314066
>>2314066
>where did you get 2,000 out of 100,000 from
fast delete, i am impressed

>>2314081
honest mistake

they also don't specify where the universities are,

In many western countries women are more likely to attend university than men, which can skew results.

>>2314086
i understand anon.

>>2312275
There's a great book about this. It won the Pulitzer Prize. It's called Guns, Germs, and Steel. You should read it.

>>2314151
lmao please refer to >>2313659

>>2314185
It's not environment. It's culture.

sand niggers iq is low mostly becouse of there living conditon.

they live in stick huts with dirt floors. they eat like one meal a day so they are malnutrioned.

also the dirt floor as they are babys they will eat alot of dirt. dirt has alot of heavy metals like lead.

and mercury witch are biotoxins that destroy the brain and they never leave the body.

>>2312912
>>2312709
>>2312944
>>2312958
>>2313134
>>2313111
>>2313095
>>2313084
>>2313061
>>2313013

/sci/ - /news/

Seriously, you should be fucking ashamed to be compared to a shithole like stormfront. Take your misogyny and racist threads back to /news/.

>>2314283

>sand niggers iq is low mostly becouse of there living conditon.

No. They live in that condition because that is the best they are capable of.

>>2314489
...That is the best they can do BECAUSE of the conditions they live in.

>>2314483
THANK YOU.

There are times when I really see the downsides of pure anonymity and a lack of moderation. It's hard to develop a culture with any kind of standards of behavior when no rules have any force.

>>2314506
So their environment is the sole cause of their problems because you know its not they lack the knowledge to improve themselves or the ability to adapt and learn like any other race...

>>2314525
Do you drink bleach?
>So their environment is the sole cause of their problems because you know its not they lack the knowledge to improve themselves
Their environment also includes no schools/poor schooling, nearly no infrastructure outside of the cities in most African countries, contaminated water supplies, droughts/famine, insect-borne and sexually transmitted diseases etc you ignorant swine.
>improve themselves or the ability to adapt and learn like any other race...
A couple hundred years of colonial fucking usually does this to you. Not to mention the previously unstable governments sometimes even exacerbated by US economic/political intervention causing countries to fall into a continuous string of warlords with small bouts of destructive anarchy. Do you have any clue how hard it would be to try and run an honest business from the ground up in a place like Darfur?

>>2314518

I wasn't trying to be a white knight there. Berating women and saying niggers doesn't fit my idea of /sci/ should be. It only works if it's a bitches and whores thread and that shit don't belong in /sci/.

>>2314562
Don't let it get to you. Is it weird that I like you better because you oppose the people I hate ITT? Nah.

What chance does a child soldier have of leading a productive life, anyway? So very many things are wrong there, that it's hard to blame many of the individuals. But things are turning around, slowly but surely.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/11/29/the_african_miracle

>/SCI/ WHY ARE YOU A BUNCH OF STUPID NIGGERS? STOP REPLYING TO TROLLS.
>/SCI/ WHY ARE YOU A BUNCH OF STUPID NIGGERS? STOP REPLYING TO TROLLS.
>/SCI/ WHY ARE YOU A BUNCH OF STUPID NIGGERS? STOP REPLYING TO TROLLS.
>/SCI/ WHY ARE YOU A BUNCH OF STUPID NIGGERS? STOP REPLYING TO TROLLS.
>/SCI/ WHY ARE YOU A BUNCH OF STUPID NIGGERS? STOP REPLYING TO TROLLS.
>/SCI/ WHY ARE YOU A BUNCH OF STUPID NIGGERS? STOP REPLYING TO TROLLS.
>/SCI/ WHY ARE YOU A BUNCH OF STUPID NIGGERS? STOP REPLYING TO TROLLS.
>/SCI/ WHY ARE YOU A BUNCH OF STUPID NIGGERS? STOP REPLYING TO TROLLS.
>/SCI/ WHY ARE YOU A BUNCH OF STUPID NIGGERS? STOP REPLYING TO TROLLS.
>/SCI/ WHY ARE YOU A BUNCH OF STUPID NIGGERS? STOP REPLYING TO TROLLS.

>>2314577 Berating women and saying niggers doesn't fit my idea of /sci/ should be

Unless there is a good scientific reason.

Bad government, and a culture that won't allow good government to establish itself. That is my answer.

>>2314577
I agree. /sci/ should have standards of behavior - scientific professionalism. I don't mean white-knighting.

But standards can't be enforced well within the framework of 4chan, and I'll accept that. I wish we had a little more moderation though, even though there isn't much basis for its use ITT.

>>2314592

I agree, but the evidence must be impartial to the party presenting it.

>>2314601
indeed

>>2314593
I like that answer.

Have you heard about what's going on in the Ivory Coast? A new president has been elected, but the old president is being an asshole and refusing to give up power. It might turn into a civil war. Yay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivorian_presidential_election,_2010

>>2314562
>A couple hundred years of colonial fucking usually does this to you

Plenty of countries have thrived as a result of colonial intervention. Don't be bringing anticolonial bullshit here.

>It was the whiteys its all their fault!

>>2314611
I agree. But I also think we haven't helped matters.

For instance, Haiti used to have a profitable sugar cane trade. Then US farming subsidies destroyed the market. Now Haiti is a shithole with no jobs or money. Gee, I wonder why?

>>2314634
Hey, it's not just the US. The EU has heavy sugar beet sugar subsidies too!

If you're wondering why aid money from the rest of the world has not worked, blame an absolutely inept bureaucracy that no foreign government has properly accounted for in the construction of its Africa policy. As things stand, China will likely end up draining the continent of its precious resources, leaving the Africans with literally nothing. What can they do to resist? Nothing. Once again, the bureaucracy prevents resistance by restricting power to those with favorable connections, regardless of demonstrated ability.

>>2314634
That's not colonialism, that's global market forces.

Cheap beef from South America is damaging the native farmers in many industrialised nations. Is it allowed to be mad that poorer countries can affect richers ones?

>>2314673
If beef is cheaper to grow there, THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD BE GROWN. This rampant protectionism is hurting EVERYONE.

We should have free trades agreements across the board. No tariffs, no subsidies.

>>2314679
Reactionaries on /new/ would fight this assertion to their death, but it's true. Unless you think the world isn't globalized, and I'm not sure what would compel you to think that way, this is what we have to work with. The protectionist alternative is a stream of incessant trade wars.

>>2314506

>...That is the best they can do BECAUSE of the conditions they live in.

You really are a retard. There is absolutley nothing to support your assertion. They have had every opportunity to advance in the last thousand years or so. They have not done so because they are unable to.

All humans come from living conditions that were nothing. Some have advanced since then, some are still stuck there.

Think this through past your retard level. If people lived in shit because they live in shit, then humanity would always live in shit because you assert that no humans can advance. We know this is not true.

>>2314703
The way I see it, it's all about meeting people's needs as efficiently as possible. Taking the Earth as a whole, it seems really foolish to not cooperate. Do things in the best location. We're all human - we've got to get over our tribalism.

I'm not pessimistic though. I think we ARE getting over our tribalism. The Cold War has given way to globalization and international trade, and the globalization is continuing. Soon, the era of world wars will be behind us - but I don't think we'll be out of the woods for another century at least.

here is a fun fact for you guys to play with

Germany has been on the losing end of the two most destructive wars in human history within 50 years. they pulled themselves out of it, twice

btw. have any of you mother fuckers actually interacted with the negroid race regular and throughly? and not have to argue over iq test/socioeconomic/historical bullshit? probably not

i spent a good part of my high school education in an 'inner city' high school. blacks are fucking savages. the education they receive is no better or worse than any other high school. they choose not to succeed. in fact, my sophomore geometry teacher, who is black, had it out for me because i was one the few students that were actually going to pass the class and im white (whites made up less than 1/4 of the student body at this school)

>>2314151
like this guy said, Guns, germs, and steel.
anyway what is the motive for africans building a huge society? there's not much food in the desert.
yes genes probably account for differences in racial behavior. but thinking that is all the difference is highly ignorant.

Now we've got a lot of things, a lot of racism in the world right now
Whose more racist? Black people or white people?
Black people....You know why? Cause we hate black people too
Everything white people dont like about black people
Black people really dont like about black people
There some shit goin on with black people right now
There's like a civil war goin on with black people
And there two sides....
There's black people, and there's niggas
And niggas have got to go
Everytime black people wanna have a good time
Ignorant ass nigga fuck it up
Can't do shit, cant do shit, without some ignorant ass nigga fuckin it up
Cant do nothin
Cant keep a disco open more than 3 weeks
Grand opening, grand closing
Cant go to a movie the first week it comes out
Why cause niggas are shooting at the screen
What kind of ignorant shit is that
Hay this is a good movie, this is so good i gotta bust a cap in here
Hay I love black people, but i hate niggas boy, boy i hate niggas
Boy I wish they'd let me join the Klu Klux Klan
Shit I'd do a drive-by from here to Brooklyn
I'm tired of niggas man
You cant have shit when you around niggas

report the redneck, move along

good morning /sci/

>>2315666
>redneck

...no, its a chris rock comedy routine i think...juding by the pic.

political failures and gobman corruption, bad weather and tropical insects/diseases

Gee, it sure is equating IQ with intelligence in here.

>>2312433
>conservipedia
lol

>>2315700
there is very significant correlation.

IQ tests arnt perfect, but are a good indicator, comparatively.

>Judging intelligence with IQ.

Culturally biased much? Next, lets try to determine who the ruler of the world should be with ping pong!

>>2312275
>Why is Africa so underdeveloped?

Non-Africans' technological progress may have something to do with their interbreeding with Neanderthals. The picture of Neanderthals is changing and they are no longer viewed as cavemen as they were once viewed. There is an interesting theory on Neanderthals having brains similar with autists, which made them very good at organising cognition in compartments, but very limited in social abilities. Maybe the explanation behind non-Africans' populations technological and cultural expansion lies with a number of transformations brought by genetic changes and exposure to a different climatic and dietary envirionment.

The differences (one standard deviation between blacks and caucasians) in IQ have been also recognised by APA.

>>2315700

Gee, you sure don't know what you're talking about.

Care to argue, fag?

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/sci/ - Racism and Religion

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>>2313070
this slut is so mad

lrn2 flynn effect.The average white industrial age peasant would have scored retarded in todays tests.
Testing IQs of poor undeveloped countries doesn't work.

One huge problem with africa is the lack of a traditional moral philosophy based on the golden rule.

Everybody looks out for #1, polygamy is insanely common (which in turn makes males agressive and non-cooperative, destroying the chances of civilisation), the whole culture just celebrates aggression, non-cooperation and simply dominating other people.

Unless there is a change, civilisation will be simply impossible, no matter what sort of economic opportunities come their way.

>>2316109
Looking out for number 1 worked for Imperial china. They just managed to develop a strong clan system.