/sci/ - Science & Math

moon base
moon dirt concrete
moon ice + solar= fuel
light weight concrete ships

I will fly people up in my anus
I will only charge 100k per person or object of equal weight.
ta da

kill the people who keep it from us

Fascism, or Anarchy, Not even lying

I will offer a ride in my imagination space ship at the low cost of $500 per person or a blow job. If Carl Sagan can do it, so can I!

>>2299726
Give everybody money.

I don't think anyone would disagree.

Create myth that there is oil on Mars. Watch as stupid politicians fund new technologies for cheap space travel.

Resource based economy.

Use a launch loop or railgun accelerated spaceplane to send up cargo, and a single stage ground to orbit vehicle like the Delta Clipper (pictured) to carry human beings. These lightweight no frills passenger rockets could carry many more people and cost far less per launch using trinitramid based fuel.

http://nextbigfuture.com/2010/12/swedish-researchers-have-discover.html

Human workers in orbit would assemble large reusable vessels for carrying colonists and resources between the Earth and the moon/mars from components launched into orbit by the launch loop. Once the vessel is complete and arrives at its destination, inflatable habitats in cushioned, rocket braked drop-crates would be sent to the surface. Machinery sent ahead of time would have refined oxygen from the soil and stored it in large tanks. The inflatable habitats could be quickly set up and hooked into the fresh air supply.

This inflatable base camp would be used as a base of operations until colonists could seal off and pressurize lava tubes, which is where the real colony would be.

>>2299771
inflatable habitat
banana

you see the problem here?

>>2299780

No.

>>2299783
you poor poor soul

>>2299784

Perhaps you could explain it to me so that my feeble mind could understand?

firgure out how to use any element in a fusion or fission reactor, depending on it's number.

unlimited energy as long as there is some mass around

>>2299790
you have made it clear that you can not

>>2299790
Micrometeorites. Not to mention the pressure difference.

>>2299799

You haven't explained yet the connection between bananas and inflatable habitats.

Is the concern that a banana may puncture the membrane? Impossible, as they're made of composite kevlar that stops even micrometeorites. Pic related.

I hope you have a rationale better than that, because it seems awfully silly.

>>2299807
this guy got it pretty fast why not you?
>>2299803

>>2299803

>>Micrometeorites.

Also a problem for rigid modules. But yes, inflatable modules use very tough material that can stop anything a rigid module would.

>>Not to mention the pressure difference.

They're counting on it. That's how the module stays inflated. I don't understand how anyone could think that a company designing inflatable space modules wouldn't take the pressure difference into account.

>>2299811

>>this guy got it pretty fast why not you?

I knew the implication was that the habitat would be easy to puncture. But I declined to acknowledge it because, in fact, the habitat is not easy to puncture.

>>2299816
BANANA

I just solved all your problems

>>2299744

Light weight concrete? say no more...

>>2299831
FIXED

balloons used for cheap and easy transport into orbit.
fueling stations on the moon.
I will make money from NASA.

It never will be unless we have a reason to travel somewhere often. Like taking off from the Mars International Spaceport to visit Earth relatives for Christmas.

Technological trends yo.

If you asked me 100 years ago the same question about airtravel I would of said the same thing. As soon as enough people want to or need to do it, we will find a way.

Hay guize

15 minutes in ms paint

Tell Christians the Jupiter people don't know of god.
They fund space fleet to convert them.

>>2299897

>15 minutes in paint

I am impress. I thought that was a CG image from the thumbnail.

>>2299899
shit
i wish i had that man claping black and white gif

>>2299846
I'm not sure the rocket could withstand the awesome power of a banana bomb.

>>2299903

I will mass-produce a poorly-designed spaceplane made by the Chinese with Russian parts and Indian tech support. It will be affordable, easy to fly, and utterly unsafe. Pic related.

>>2299913
And so the Shuttle-Zs launched almost daily, from Canaveral and Kourou and Baikonur, crude Saturn V-class boosters assembled from Space Shuttle technology, people crammed into sardine-can spaceships, fleeing to the Moon.

Or maybe it was a Chinese ship, or one of the Indian fleet, based on old Soviet-era Energia technology, built with such haste and crammed even more full than the Shuttle-Zs, with even less precaution and safety checks than in the western sites. The Indian failure rate was a whopping forty per cent, and the toll in lost lives, on those crowded space trucks, was immense. One of those big old Energia clones had dropped back to the launch pad on Sri Lanka and blown apart, taking half the island with it.

The rumours were that the failure statistics in China weren’t much better.

>>2299913
Also this thing, which is mostly likely impossible but still neat. To keep costs down, it is built by Africans. Mostly of grass.

>>2299913
And so the Shuttle-Zs launched almost daily, from Canaveral and Kourou and Baikonur, crude Saturn V-class boosters assembled from Space Shuttle technology, people crammed into sardine-can spaceships, fleeing to the Moon.

Or maybe it was a Chinese ship, or one of the Indian fleet, based on old Soviet-era Energia technology, built with such haste and crammed even more full than the Shuttle-Zs, with even less precaution and safety checks than in the western sites. The Indian failure rate was a whopping forty per cent, and the toll in lost lives, on those crowded space trucks, was immense. One of those big old Energia clones had dropped back to the launch pad on Sri Lanka and blown apart, taking half the island with it.

The rumours were that the failure statistics in China weren’t much better.

Nobody mentioned space elevator?

Abolish capitalism. Enjoy your 0$ Orion ship.

>>2299992

>>2299996
Why is NASA not laughing like you? http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2000/ast07sep_1/

>>2300020

Because NASA has no concept of anything beyond "Will my little pet project get funded?"

Look up Sea Dragon Rocket. You don't need sci-fi space elevators or superconducting railguns to make spaceflight affordable. Just one big, dumb, rocket, that's all it takes son.

>>2300045

>Because NASA has no concept of anything beyond "Will my little pet project get funded?"

This is correct. See: 90-day report.

Hi Altitutde Solarpannelbaloon with CoilGun?

>>2299742
a 65kg balloon at atmospheric pressure

>>2300045

The point is that rockets are far too expensive.

It's got nothing to do with how complicated the actual rocket is, it's the fact that it's burning thousands of pounds of fuel a second.