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2286952 No.2286952 [Reply] [Original]

You know the drill.

>> No.2286954
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2286954

I'm on it billy.

>> No.2286956
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2286956

Yeah, we know it.

>> No.2286957

Your th1ead has been marked as a troll thread, therefore your javascript must crash. Good day.
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>> No.2286961

>>2286957

I can see the triforce, but it's not crashing for me.

YOU MAD WINDOWSFAGS?

>> No.2286964
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>>2286954
Here, i'm just messing.
We will re-order the entire universe.

>> No.2286967

You should have been here earlier today. You missed one short, but interesting thread about nanoaugmented furries who take over the world. Sadly, it 404'd before it even properly started.

>> No.2286969

>>2286967

... What did the OP say so I can green-oval it? Assuming you aren't trolling.

>> No.2286973
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What does /sci/ think about Mars Direct? It would cost 50 billion and would put people on Mars for three years, enough to do science, find a suitable base (Assuming them cheap bastards gave them tools and a rover) and maybe set up a basic facility to exploit geothermal power so future colonists would find their power supply already set up. But mostly it's just three years roving Mars, unless you can provide a heavy-lifter and a NERVA, those would make significant modifications to the plan and allow us to ship more mass.

The plan consists on launching a first ship to carry a nuclear-powered Earth Return Vehicle, using the Sabatier reaction to turn the Martian atmosphere into rocket fuel as a way of living off the land (And because carrying the fuel to return all the way there squares the mass ratio). Then a second ship gets to Mars, lands, does science, gets on the ERV and goes back to Earth.

Zubrin and Mars general.

>> No.2286975

>>2286969
http://green-oval.net/cgi-board.pl/sci/thread/2284876

>> No.2286976
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This picture here shows the process: The first rocket is the automated ERV, then the piloted rocket with the crew and a second automated ERV, rinse and repeat and progressively explore Mars.

NEXT CHART.

>> No.2286988

>>2286975

HHNNNGHG

God why doesn't green-oval archive full pictures, I MUST HAVE 2285069

>> No.2286993
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2286993

Here's a Mars Direct-derived plan which involves using the ICANN-II antimatter rocket. Looking at the images it's inefficient as fuck: Half the mass is a radiation shadow shield.

You gigantic retards. Have you not even heard of Charles Pellegrino? You don't need shadow shields, just have the engine at the front towing the ship and that allows the radiation to disperse >_>

Then you have the problem of the tether being torched: Angling the thrusters would not be an option because a mere five degrees would imply 30% thrust loss. Putting the thrusters on telescoping booms, however, would work.

>> No.2287004

>>2286988
Sorry, I didn't save that pic. Not in browser's cache anymore.

>> No.2287007

I like grapes.

>> No.2287010

>>2287004
Even so, that thread was pretty hilarious. The antithesis of Warhammer 40k fandom.

>> No.2287025

>>2287004

Ah, well, I'll some day come across it I guess.

>CAPTCHA: utopian seeiguar

;_;

>> No.2287083

Are there any plans for manned Venusian missions? I know surface exploration is pretty much out of the question, but it's apparently possible to float habitats in the upper atmosphere.

>> No.2287115

>>2286975
The only problem I have with that thread are the unrealistic expectations. Real furries? Are you fucking retarded? Maybe possible in the lifetime of our great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren, but yeah, no, not any time soon. Learn to be less stupid.

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>>2287115

We'll see, Anon.

We'll see.

>> No.2287157

>>2287115
Your sarcasm detector appears to be malfunctioning.

>> No.2287257

What do we here on Earth gain from an attempt to colonize mars? I'm guessing debt.

>> No.2287272

>>2287257

Freedom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRG5RLeAFHE&feature=related

>> No.2287334

>>2286973

Judging from the number of technical advances required, that 50 billion price tag is probably going to be more like 500 billion - about the cost of the Iraq war.

The bailouts, wars, tax cuts, and entitlements have cleaned us out. Although this kind of thing is technically possible, it is no longer economically or politically possible. We just don't have the money to do it.

>> No.2287339

>>2287272
Fair enough, though it sounds like he's crossing the line between is and ought. Humanity may simply just not have a realistic shot at limitless resources.

>> No.2287353

>>2287339
If we stopped breeding, and became trans-humans we would be alright

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>>2287334

>technical advances required
>doesn't realize Mars Direct is a bunch of recycled Apollo capsules with aeroshells strapped on, a pantry with frozen food and 19th century chemistry
>laughing_Miss_Elmer_Glue.hologram