/sci/ - Science & Math

This board is about science, not philosophy, asshat. Philosophy is a carcinogen.

Stop making this thread. You are fucking annoying.

Or you can be a property dualist.

Why don't you go ask /new. I bet 90% of them are religious nutcakes.

Why would a solipsist believe that there is an inner deity?

1 and 4 as they aren't mutually exclusive.

I'm more inclined to pick three.

>>2280667

You`re annoyed because he`s right.

Perhaps you get a life and go do something usefull, something with good intentions like tauto does.

>>2280683
>Philosophical thought
>Useful
>laughinggirls.jpg

>>2280683
Right about what? He's not making any assertions is he? He's only asking questions and this is at least the fourth time I've seen a version of this thread on here in two days. That's fucking annoying.

Who is that? She's beautiful.

>>2280659
no comment really needed

>>2280669
Why would a solipsist believe that there is an inner deity?
Ok he doesn`t have to believe it, he considers it a possibility.

>>2280693
>He's not making any assertions is he

>Note that option 1 is as reasonable as option 2.
>And option 2 is as reasonable as option 3.

In other words theism is no less reasonable as materialism, determinism, solipsism, nihilism and Athiems(the belief that there is no God).

>>2280706
>She's beautiful
she always is.
It`s my favourite frensh actress: Audrey Tautou
you might have seen her in a movie, amelie, a verry long engagement or The davinci code.

>>2280919

>Athiems(the belief that there is no God)

trollface.jpg

>>2280919
I like her a lot, she reminds me of my mother.

>>2280659
Difference between 2 and 3 is dreams, you can actually experience other realities so to speak so in theory 'reality' could just be another dream.

Show me evidence of an external god altering reality.

>>2280946

>Show me evidence of an external god altering reality.

No, that`s why it`s called a belief, a reasonable belief in my opinion.

Show me evidence you can actually experience other realities so to speak

>>2280946

>Show me evidence of an external god altering reality.

No, that`s why it`s called a belief, a reasonable belief in my opinion.

Show me evidence we are actually experiencing another realitie so to speak

>>2280919
Remind me to never respond to any of your posts again. Ever. Your wikipedia level understanding of philosophy is showing.

>>2281041

Athiems = the belief that there is no God

>>2280946

>>2281054
>semantics

>>2281014

>>2281041

>>2281100

i fucking hate you too
i wish you were near me so i could punsh you in the face you cancerous piece of shit please tell me where you live or kill yourself

>>2281100
>>2281128

I would consider it replying to your post in a relevant matter, but considering your already biased assertions, I know this will turn into an argument against a nutcrack. So for you, and all other religious enthusiasts/trolls, sage.

>>2280994
>herp derp durp
And that's how you get filtered ladies and gents

>>2281180

herp derp herp
Cause believing is for retards
herp derp herp

Between Materialism, and solipsism,

ok, seriously stop bumping this crap.

IF YOU REALLY FEEL AND UNRESISTABLE URGE TO COMMENT SOMETHING AS STUPID AS THIS.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE, PUT "SAGE" IN THE E-MAIL FIELD TO AVOID BUMPING IT TO THE FIRST PAGE AGAIN.

Because this is garbage, and you know it.

this thread again?

>>2281271

Lol why you atheists always want to quit the discussion if you know you`re losing.

Just admit that you were wrong and convert to agnostism. Or accept theism as being as reasonable as these other atheist beliefs.

that is their mens rea, that because they're selfish, greedy, and are composed mainly of sin, that God does not apply to them, and therefore God cannot exist, in their lives.

>>2281273
>>2281279
>>2281294
>>2281305

samefag

>>2281294

"And option 2 is as reasonable as option 3."

Explain this.

>>2281331

Solipsism implies there is, by defenition NO divine entity or "god" in the external world, but parhaps beyond one's own mind, that`s still considered a possibility.

Believing there is NO divine entity in the external world requires just as much assumptions as believing there IS a divine entity.

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>>2281312
>ill take a funny and clever image created by theists and change a word so i can use it for my own purposes even though it doesnt make sense in the context ive edited it to

typical brain dead atheist

There's no such thing as reasonable belief without evidence. "Reason"=logic, reasonable=logical. The default logical position is skepticism of everything there isn't evidence of, because otherwise we must posit "reasonable" beliefs if they can explain anything that we don't currently understand.

Believing in God because it feels right isn't any different from believing in dew fairies because the concept of condensation doesn't sit right with you.

>>2281438
>Believing there is NO divine entity in the external world requires just as much assumptions as believing there IS a divine entity.
No one is disputing that faggot. But not-believing in a devine entitiy is <span class="math">{\bf not}[/spoiler] the same as believing there is no divine entity. Depending on the definition both can be considered as atheism, so someone calling himself an atheist doesn't mean he dis-believes there is a god. Agnosticism is something more than just not-believing there is a god because agnostics claim (as the name would suggest) it is inherently impossible tho have knowledge about the existence of a divine entity. Gnosis means knowledge. agnosis means no-knowledge.

>>2281474
Trolleism:
A pastime for people who like to set goals low so they can have minuscule accomplishments from minute to minute.

>>2280659

if there were only four options that could be chosen, you are probably not even correct in your question then.

as it is, go back to sonic the hedgehog because that has as much to do with pertinance as your hypothesis on man's mental channels.

Wait there are non-atheists on /sci/?
Or master trolls?

>Option 3: Belief in a God; as counterpart to the divine mind(inner self). Resulting in a balanced worldview.

>Resulting in a balanced worldview.
I lol'd.

Nice try, faggot. You try to break something down logically, and you inject that - ruins your credibility.

>>2280659

isn't there a religion/fairytale board somewhere where you people can hang out? why is it you feel the need to display your belief in mysticism on the science board?

>>2281471
Wrong

Believing is part of being human, Accept this fact or see yourself become an infernal zombie, it`s impossible not to belief anything.

Why is this shit the only thing to get bumped in /sci/. God, yes you God, why do underageb&d retard trolls have to plague this board so?

>>2281474
samefagism: when trollism doesn't even work but you still need the illusion of achievement

>>2281504
>it`s impossible not to belief anything.
>.:. it is acceptable to believe just anything
That does not follow

>>2281473
Right. And I don't know how many times I'll have to post the following before people get the idea that agnosticism isn't in itself a position on a belief:

When it comes to whether to posit an idea or not, there are two standpoints which each nuanced belief of an individual can fit under: For and not-for. In the case of a god, there is theism and atheism. Everyone is one or the other. Someone who has never considered the question, or considers himself insufficiently informed on the issue to go one way or the other is classified as not-for:atheism.

Why? Because atheism just states that you don't believe in a god. Believe is a verb, meaning that if aren't believing, you don't believe. Seems like a "duh" thing to say, but when you set agnosticism as a belief apart from atheism, you are essentially saying that there is a distinction between not believing and not believing, which is ridiculous.

Agnosticism simply states lack of self perceived authority on the subject, or lack of the will to preach. It exists under both categories, but when someone says "I'm agnostic" they actually mean to say "I'm an agnostic atheist".

>>2281527
I agree except for the following statement
>agnosticism isn't in itself a position on a belief
In fact it is, just not one conflicting with atheism. The notion that knowledge about a divine entity is impossible is in itself a position, is it not?

>>2281527

ag·nos·tic
   /ægˈnɒstɪk/ Show Spelled[ag-nos-tik]
–noun
1.a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as god, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.
2. a person who denies or doubts the possibility of ultimate knowledge in some area of study.
3. an atheist who avoids arguments, doesn't like to fight.

>>2281550
I see your point. I should revise to say that it isn't a substitute for an atheist/theist position, but rather a position on whether that position is authoritative. Thanks for that correction.

OP. These are immensely shallow beliefs that hold no intrinsic philosophy of any merit.

>>2281618
Philosophyfag detected.
Dude fuck off philosophy does not have a copyright on any though.

It`s just some idea any emo kid could come up but so what.
The subject is rarely discussed that`s why i started this thread.

if i would make an OP with any other statment like "i belief Hitler was a bad person". what you gonne do???
tell me "These are immensely shallow beliefs that hold no intrinsic philosophy of any merit."
Dude just fuck off.

A:
>There are only 4 options one can chose
Fuck you.

B:
>God; as counterpart to the divine mind
What the fuck does that even mean?

>>2281273

>>2281751
>>2281751

Tell me where you live you will realize what he means after i`ve fractured your shithead.

bump

Don't start off a thread by reinventing the field you wish to discuss according to your whims. Just that.

I consider personal pathos to be of prime importance. Life must be nothing if not interesting. Also stoicism. Living in accordance with the laws of the world. General asceticism and self denial.

Happiness is relative. If you are used to simple pleasures, it is easy to be happy.

Back up. Pathos. Look at those you adore and idolize and compare yourself to. Why should you not strive to be their like and peer? However, you are not Indiana Jones, nor are you living in his world. The subject process in question will be profoundly subjective and relative in all things.

In the end, it comes down to your choice. Life is about making passionate choices.

>>2281294
>>2281294
right now i want to kill you, i do not quit of the conversation, never. Actually is the other people who quit.

>>2281474
Ok, whats your proof about the obvious God's existence?

I'm not an atheist. Or at least I don't consider myself as such. I'm not very religious at all. Maybe agnostic but.

Point is. I don't care. It's completely irrelevant to me and actually also to everyone I know. No one I know consider themselves religious, nor atheist.

Because it's fucking irrelevant. Get on with your life and stop telling others what to believe.

Video related.
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSu4hOLYrXk

>>2282155
aaaw you cute...

No colors of the wind?

>>2282155
Where do you live?

>>2282218
..wrong link? Wrong link!

No really, I meant to link just the song which is a theme of intolerance and racism.

I'm not cool anymore, am I?

>>2280659
>How do you relate your inner self to the world around you ? ?
> There are only 4 options one can chose for:
Option 1: >>>/sci/
Option 2: >>>/b/
Option 3: >>>/x/
Option 4: >>>/sci/

>>2282237
Denmark

>>2282155
>APATHEISM FOR THE WIN

Also called Pragmatic Atheism, also for the win.