/sci/ - Science & Math

Christians are fools who hold outdated beliefs and can't think for themselves. Leave them to their own solitude in their little bias towns. They're not worth dealing with. Corrupt politicians on the other hand, are worth the time.

not OP, i was raised a catholic, turned atheist around about 12 when i applied the same logic to bible as i did santa claus. anyway, get freaked out by trannies, what's wrong with me? any t-girl here?

Yes, transgender people are mentally ill.

>Are transgender people really freaks
do you really think I need to answer that one. of course there freaks. we need to kill them all and everyone who has blue eyes.

>freaks of nature
Depends what you mean by that. Yeah their brains are a bit fucked but so are the brains of gays and plenty of other people who can function normally.
As long as they're not hurting humanity people can do whatever the fuck they want

The surprising amount of scientists and atheists who don't support transgenderism baffles me since there is plenty of science behind it. Don't listen to those who say psychology is a false science if by that logic biology is too. You would suspect that any scientists and atheists would side with the liberals even if slightly. I hereby conduct my conclusion that if someone is atheist or a scientist and doesn't support transgenderism especially on an imageboard known to have a large population of them. They are nothing more but common trolls.

Those who believe there is something wrong with their bodies when there is not are mentally ill.

The current opinion in neuroscience is that transgendered people most likely have sexual dimorphisms in their brains characteristic of the opposite sex. I won't go into the specifics, but there are some nuclei that are different sizes in men and women that appear to determine whether or not a person views themselves as a man or a woman.

So basically transgendered people literally have a female brain in a male body and vice versa. While some idiots might be willing to call this kind of person a freak, there are far more bizarre abnormalities that can occur regarding gender/sex (google "guevedoces" for such an example).

>>2269377
Interesting, why are gay and trans people's brains screwed up and not normal heterosexual people's? If they occur in nature, shouldn't this indicate that they are normal as well?

>>2269392
>So basically transgendered people literally have a female brain in a male body and vice versa.

Isn't this common knowledge of transgenderism?

>>2269366

Not trolling?

Tranagendered people have whats known as gender identity disorder. It's the longing to be in the opposite sex and it actually occurs very early in childhood.

It does have a biological substrate. Though the neuroscience behind it isn't completely mapped, people with GID have a hypothalamus (specifically, the anterior region) with a volume equal in size to the opposite gender. They also typically, but not always, have Homosexual orientation, alongside all of the neurological workings that brings forth. All in all, their limbic system is pretty screwy, resembling the gender of the gender they wish to be, mores than their native gender.

And yea, I'm a straight dude and I still find trannies pretty weird. Xenophobia -it's built into us.

>>2269394
Neither gay nor trans are going to have natural offspring. I'm not anti-gays and trans but they're no more "normal" than someone with bulimia or anorexia

>>2269386

>Yer either with us or again' us.

A neutral stance does exist and it is quite common.

>>2269403
Well, transgenders have always claimed that they feel like they're women trapped in men's bodies (and vice versa), but that's really no different from any other kind of delusion. There is evidence, however, that their biology actually is precisely like that. Big difference.

>>2269410
It's not the whole anterior hypothalamus actually. Just one of the nuclei (specifically the third interstitial nucleus). Also, the paper that presented the evidence was met with a lot of skepticism due to its flawed methodology so we're not entirely sure if that really is the case or not.

>>2269414
>Neither gay nor trans are going to have natural offspring.

Surrogacy, I told my soon-to-be transwife that if she ever wanted to have children someday. I'm perfectly fine with her having a surrogate mother. Plus she has a girl friend (emphasis on the space) who's her best friend. Surely she'll be happy to carry her child. So what if it isn't mine? Genetics are unimportant.

What matters is if you're a kind hearted person.

Which is why I still love her even after she told me and our relationship has been better than before.

>>2269410
>Xenophobia -it's built into us.

If you're a defective human being.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7AWnfFRc7g

>>2269428
I said natural for a reason. The wonder of our technologies is that we can go beyond nature. It's the reason I don't see "abnormal" people as a problem.

>>2269436
Traditional surrogacy existed since the caveman days.

>>2269440
You are retarded as fuck

>>2269431
Why do I always see this bullshit video posted?!

>>2269431
Fucking liberal bullshit.

>>2269444
Call my history professor retarded and when he's clearly more intelligent than you, neckbearded nigger.

>>2269452
>>2269446

Somebody's mad.

>>2269431

He left the domain of science after the monkey segment. The rest of the video is junk philosophy with annoying pictures,

>>2269477
Or maybe you're just mad that the video was truthful and you can't handle it.

Where's your God now?

Can Republicans and Conservatives even be scientists?

>>2269483

I don't have a god. I'm just very familiar with bad philosophy.

polls: who here would knowingly have sexual relationship with a tranny (boy or girl)?
also, who here would knowingly have platonic relationship with a tranny (boy or gir)?

negative on both count, but im all for their civil rights

>>2269487
Yes.

>>2269512
though a very recent survey found that only 6% of scientists are actually Republicans and 9% consider themselves conservative.

so statistically speaking, not so much.

>>2269526
Citation needed.

Also, statistically speaking, the answer to the question

>Can Republicans and Conservatives even be scientists?

is yes. Which was the point.

>>2269488
Bullshit, I know how to smell a Christian.
>>2269541
Shut up, you've been out answered. Fuck off and gtfo of my political party.

>Are transgender people really freaks of nature

they could be defined as such, but as long as they aren't hurting anyone why can't we just leave them allone?
Also it's unatural in the same way people that work out are "unatural" they are trying to change their body from sething they don't like to something they can stand.

>>2269494
posative on both, one of the most inspiring people I've ever met was a transexual.

>>2269541
yes they can, but overwhelmingly they are not.

citation follows, check towards the bottom of the page for the review of political affiliation...

http://people-press.org/report/528/

>>2269554
Unnatural according to whom? The bible?
>>2269555
How many scientists believe in God?

>>2269546
Fortunately, I am not a Republican. Eat a dick, sir.

As a father of one girl and one boy, I wouldn't want my children to become sexually deviant. Fuck religious justification, I don't need it.

>>2269571
Are you kids asexual?

>>2269567
I have your address and I am coming over.

I will break your dick and force you to leave my party. Liar.

>>2269566
Unatural as in wanting to change their natural figure, but like I said, it's no diffrent than working out or dieting.

>>2269572
Be careful of the slope coming down. And mind the chickens; they can be difficult to clean out of wheel wells. Particularly if you drive a small car.

What's your favorite pie?

>>2269566
how many scientists believe in god?

good question, and answered with a number of surveys you can google as well as I can.

results vary depending on the definition of "scientist," but tend to range from as many as 37% to as few as 7%.

isn't it interesting how Republican and conservative are now the same as protestant and christian?

>>2269574
Fat people are unnatural, thanks for clarification, bro.

Now I can shut up my fat friend.

fuck your gods and religion debate, this thread is about transgender, fuck off somewhere else

>>2269573
For now, yes.

>>2269583
>Are transgender people really freaks of nature or is this just silly beliefs on part of the Republicans and Conservatives yet alone Christians?
>or is this just silly beliefs on part of the Republicans and Conservatives yet alone Christians?
>Republicans and Conservatives yet alone Christians?
>Christians

It's OP's fault, I'm afraid.

>>2269587
I hope you don't plan on grandchildren, but I'm calling social services right now to report child abuse.

p.s. I'm your neighbor. I bet you didn't suspect me to come here.

>>2269580
Wat?
I never said that... I said the opposite of that...

>>2269352
As a Transwomen myself, i can say that i ask my self every day. However, there is a huge difference between being a freak and the Anti-Christ the far right seem to portray us. I wish i was normal, straight, and conformed to my birth gender, but no matter how hard i fought it, i still had the feeling something was wrong.

>>2269600
You implied it.

>>2269632
How are you not normal?

I never saw anything abnormal in transgenderism or homosexuality.

>>2269732

Normal is straight not-trans.

>>2269740
And how are straight people even remotely normal?

The gay and even trans people in my life are more normal than my heterosexual friends.

Then again, maybe there's no such thing as normancy.

God one of the kids in my HS actually used the argument that being gay is bad because no animals in nature are gay... I fucking hate the religionfags around me...

>>2269766
>In behavior, normal refers to a lack of significant deviation from the average. The phrase "not normal" is often applied in a negative sense (asserting that someone or some situation is improper, sick, etc.) Abnormality varies greatly in how pleasant or unpleasant this is for other people.

Homosexuals and transgenders deviate from the norm.

>>2269778
Did you do a research that counters his pathetic arguments?

Hahaha. That's what Christfags get for trying to waste students' time with unintelligent design in biology class. This may be the only policy Obama has done right.

>>2269390
Yes, we know there is nothing technically wrong with our bodies. But we aren't comfortable in them. And it's a hell of a lot easier to change our bodies to match our minds than it is to do the reverse. Just to add a bit of comfort in our lives. Been on HRT for three years now and I'm much much happier than I was before. And doing this doesn't hurt anyone except those who are afraid of ideas that are different. Example: Most conservatives.pl

>>2269796
If by that you mean tell him that dolphins often engage in homosexuality, I know there are tons of other ones but I couldn't think of them on the spot. Basically me, this kid, an agnostic kid, and an idiot have religious/political/and vidya game debates every time we have study hall together, its usually a lot of fun.

>>2269732
I happen to be a Republican, albeit a heavily mined libertarian Republican, so i can of feel out of place politically. Besides that, i can not really get along with guys, as they see me as a trader of sorts.
>>2269740
Well, i still like girls.
>>2269766
There is a such a thing as "normal", its just in the eye of the beholder.
>>2269825
We have a lot in common; do you ever wish you were normal too? I mean not have the desire to be female and just be content of living your birth gender. I really hate being trans, but not matter how hard i tried, it was still there at the end of the day. so i just said fuck, and start transition.

>>2269863
Well, I would have to say that I wouldn't. Being trans hasn't hurt me any in my life and has actually improved in lots of ways. Plus it's hard to answer when you've had this desire since age 5 to have a girls face staring back at me in the mirror. I wanted it so much that it would be every wish on a birthday cake, and I would pray every night before bed that someone would hear me and make me into a girl.

So I guess no. I love how I look now and being trans doesn't really bother me. My only regret is that I didn't transition before puberty. lol

So as a republican trans girl, are you a masochist? =)

>>2269880
Yeah, i am a little masochist. For the record, i hate the ultra Christians in the party and i feel they have ruined it. Its more about the principled belief in the party of lower taxes, less government involvement in everyday life, and a leaner more efficient government. As for the part about wanting to be a girl, it first started when i was 4; this is when i first could tell the differences between genders. I lived up until i was 6 as girlie as i wanted and had girl toys too, but my dad finally had enough and tried to make me male. i remember the days where i just wished god would make me a girl and every mourning i would cry when it did not happen. After i was about 12, i just stop believing in god up until i was 16. It's kind of ironic that my high school biology teacher got me got me back into believing in god, although in a non-personal type of from.

)>>2269923
So how do you feel about ENDA? How do you feel about trans being a protected class in the job market? This is why I could never be conservative or libertarian. If people don't play nice, especially when it comes to employers, you have to force them to.

/sci/ - the only board where a trap thread contains NO images

I hate you all

>>2269824
Yet Obama hasn't gave us our medicare yet.

Looks like somebody discovered this website.

http://711chan.org/i/res/9714.html

Apparently every Tea Party/Republican website such as this are all hosted from the same IP address.

>>2269977
That's because Obama is shit. This is the only positive highlight of his presidency.

>>2269988
Bill Clinton was the best president ever, you can't prove this wrong.

Suck it Bush.

>>2269992
>Suck it Bush.

Bush is a hero, just not the hero we need right now.

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>>2269939
>So how do you feel about ENDA?
I have had no problem fiding employment due to my transness.
>How do you feel about trans being a protected class?
If a company wants to fire you, they can find a reason with ease.
>>2269987
The tea party is full of shit; they spend all day shouting "What would Thomas Jefferson and look at the federalist papers.", it truth, Thomas Jefferson hated the constitution and the federalist. What Glenn Beck and the other "Conservatives" do not understand is Jefferson wanted a country much like the European Union where the states had more power and had full sovereignty, but share a common goal of trade. Hell, if you asked him what his country was, he would say Virgina.

>>2269988
http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/
:3

>>2270039
Only a 14 socialist dillhole would be proud of such things.