/sci/ - Science & Math

Your example just show how nature can be self-organizing with simple mathematical rules without a need for it to be designed.

also sage and reported

>>2260294

explain the white semi-circle in the center

Of course a god exists, it's me!

The way this image works is, take any point on the border of a color and draw a straight line through the center.

Find the two other colored sections that the line intersects. The sum of the distance of the two smaller sections equals the distance of the larger segment.

for clarification

golden ratio.

>>2260333

it isnt the golden ratio, this is completely different.
Its a series of half-circles with radii in the Fibonacci set

ITT PROVE ME WRONG

>>2260344

look at

>>2260323

try and move the sequence down to the very first part of the spiral. It is anomalous, it does not follow the same rules the rest of the spiral does. Yet it is the most important part because the spiral stems from it.

>>2260339

again for clarification

white = radius 1
yellow = radius 2
red = radius 3
orange = radius 5
blue = radius 8
green = radius 13

>>2260333

This is the golden ratio

>>2260339

>implying the Fibonacci numbers aren't closely related to the golden ratio

is it because we don't know the end of pie's digits?

>>2260417

I think you have that the wrong way around

>>2260417

also, see this post:

>>2260377

>>2260426
>implying relationships aren't a 2-way street

...

>"That's what she said"
:(

Scientists have created Bose-Einstein condensates. Your arguement is invalid and science wins.

/thread

I think everybody is missing out OP's point

>>2260462
Probably, clue me in?

>>2260466
I don't know. But probably something more than describing Fibonacci numbers or golden ratio.

>>2260476

Look at the picture in >>2260323
No scoot the line back down the spiral all the way down to the very first semicircle.

the rule doesn't apply to the very first part. The very first part is God, not the judeo christian islamic god, but the initial spark in the universe.

>>2260457

that doesn't mean that a god doesn't exist

>>2260484

Unlikely as you can just carry this down mathematically down to a smaller and smaller interval while never actually reaching 0. Hence it never has a beginning.

>>2260484
What? God is a fucking spark?

>>2260516

neither does god

>>2260519

you know how they say god existed before the universe did... its true.

you may ask, how is this possible? The answer is, god is extra dimensional and doesn't exist in our universe. He is in a dimension so far above ours that we cannot even begin to comprehend.

also pic related

>>2260516
>it never has a beginning
indeed, and also no end
but having faith means believing what you know ain't so.

>>2260516

also, this is a series of Fibonacci semi-circles, there is no smaller part to the picture.

>>2260521
You're taking a premise involving the relation of numbers and stating it as proof of some theological concept.
That does not follow any pattern of logic that I am familiar with.

At best, you're providing an analogy for a theological concept.
You can say
>The concept has a beginning which does not apply to the whole, this gap is a necessary start - a base.
>As in life, God was the beginning and he does not interfere with our daily lives - but without him we would not be.

But even then, it's just a silly analogy.

>>2260546

>The concept has a beginning which does not apply to the whole, this gap is a necessary start - a base.
>As in life, God was the beginning and he does not interfere with our daily lives - but without him we would not be.

THANK YOU. Somebody finally understands what I was trying to say. Congratulations you win this award.

>>2260554
And that, ladies and gentlemen of /sci/ - as the one being misquoted, is why I hate people and therefore am driven to drink.

>>2260546

>As in life, God was the beginning and he does not interfere with our daily lives - but without him we would not be.

THANK YOU. Somebody finally understood.
God in the monotheistic tradition does not exist, he is much more subtle.

Have this award.

>>2260561
Stop misquoting me you faggot.

>>2260514
Yes, because on a nanoscopic level we are seeing atoms defy the laws of mass and gravity and having them manage to COMBINE into one wavelike entity while maintaining the mass of just one of the atoms being subjected to nanokelvin temperatures.
How could you maintain that a god exists and developed logical rules for the universe when at the most fundamental level of matter the "laws" become so severely warped?

>>2260570

Regardless, you stated exactly the point I was trying to get across, so you are a winrar.

>>2260573

so you're saying that because the rules of physics change on a nanoscopic level, there is no way a life form in a higher dimension than ours exists?

>>2260578
An omnipotent being or a god wouldn't.

>>2260587

woah woah woah, I never said he was omnipotent.
that's what christfags do.

you need to take a step back and forget everything that monotheism taught you about god.

I need to go return some library books.
brb.

Human beings are interesting to observe. It is extremely unlikely we are the first beings to exist in the universe. It is likely that there is a group of space beings watching us right now. Even if contact is never made you must imagine the implications of evolution (such as OP's pic) which displays a never ending chain. But there must be an end, and who or what is there was there first and all along and most certainly has had a hand in creating life as it is the basic building block from which all things are made. I usually wonder if it's something simple like zero or one.

Btw, did you ever think that EVERYTHING has an intelligence and free will.

>Universal Hivemind bro ALL IS GOD.

>>2260643

Did you say "a group of space beings"

Pic related. Gonna leave for the library now, brb 15 mins

Yea hindu gods were aliens who tried to teach us to be peaceful and gave us stuff to be awesome.

They didn't just visit the indians, they visited all 9 major races on earth, too bad most of their stories are now regarded as myths.

reported.

>>2260748

for doing what?

>>2260753
for being obnoxious idiot. also violation of rules.

>>2260761

tell me what rule I broke so I can learn from my "mistakes"

>/sci/ - Science & Math
>All science and math related topics welcome.
>Homework threads will be deleted, and the poster banned.
>No "religion vs. science" threads.

Looks good to me. No rules broken here.

>>2260765
Rule "Don't be an obnoxious idiot", also rule No. 3, because this board is not dedicated to religion, but as the title says - Science and Math. It doesn't say anything about pseudoscience, poor non sequitur arguments etc.

>>2260771

1) "Obnoxious idiot? That's your opinion man, you're entitled to it.
2) Rule 3 says "no religion vs. science threads." This thread is not a religion vs. science thread.

cry more

>>2260778
Yes, because this thread involves only religion and no science, it isn't even religion vs. science thread...so FUCK OFF, obnoxious idiot.

>>2260783

If you had half a brain you would be able to see how cool this Fibonacci sequence in my spiral is. Seems like math to me.

Now stfu.

>>2260784

<<this is Fibonacci sequence, your picture is only retareded cousin of Fibonacci sequence. So, that leaves us with religion and no math. Again, FUCK OFF.

>>2260798

see

>>2260323

if you cant see the significance of this then you are truly an idiot

>>2260822
I see retarded picture of sequence with no nubmers attached to it which proves that you can draw thick lines in MS Paint, very impressive, sort of magicks.

>>2260841

again see the picture in >>2260323

any questions?

OP is avoiding people's answers because they point out that he's a moron.

Move along people, nothing to see here.

>>2260852

It hurts me how stupid you are.

>>2260822

You keep referring back to your picture without explaining jack shit. This is an interesting mathematical phenomenon, surely...but you haven't said anything about what makes this related to the existence of god or the beginning of the universe (and I highly doubt that it is).

Hopefully you can explain it to us humble, ignorant plebes without making yourself look like a bumbling crackpot. Go ahead.

Also, if I didn't know any better, I'd say you're aether in disguise.

>>2260864

The white semi-circle represents god.

All the other semi-circles are divided unequally by the cardinal lines, but the white one remains undivided.

Also, look at the shape of the white semi-circle, it is the perfect shape to allow the Fibonacci sequence for EVERY point on the spiral.

Furthermore, the white semi-circle is the one in which all other semi-circles are based off of. It is one unit, the next circle is 2 units, then 3, 5, 8, 13, etc.

>>2260886

So it's an allegory for the existence of god. Whoo fucking hoo. Stop the presses.

>>2260901

stop the presses indeed

>>2260908

I was being sarcastic, dumbass.

>>2260911

chill out man, there's no way we would be able to directly explain god anyways. We would have to use allegory to do it.

>>2260923

From your OP:

>I have here in this picture proof that a god exists.

Analogy/allegory isn't proof, though. And, by your own admission, we'll never be able to directly explain god.

You haven't proven the existence of a god, and you can't directly "explain" or describe god. So, mind telling me why you made this thread?

Shitting up the board would be my guess, but I could be wrong.

>>2260935

being the change I want to see in the world.

Proof that heaven/hell dont exist, mathematically

>>2260980
If the Earth is only 6000 years old, then the most time a human could have spent in heaven right now is 6000 years. And then that human would've had to have been a bad prototype made by God who died an instant after being created.

Your proof works for the limit as time approaches infinity, but it hasn't yet come close to infinity. It never will. Because its increase is over time, not instantaneous like most sequences.

I disproved a troll! Do I earn an award? I'd like the Fields medal, please.

>>2260980

heaven = the heavens = outerspace
hell = the underworld = rebirth

See: World Tree

>>2260992

if earth is only 6000 years old, then how do we have gasoline and other fossil fuels?

>>2260980

also, that's fucking hilarious.

/sci/: Allegories and Analogies

>>2260998
I'm a mathematician. I don't care if it's true in the physical world. I only care that it's consistent with logical rules and itself.

fucking math, how does it work?

>>2260299
> Explain the white semi-circle in the center.
You have drawn a semicircle of your own invention over a perfectly natural mathematical curve that requires no maker and has a well-understood formula governing its behavior.
EXPLAINED

>>2260992
you didn't disprove anything. You should read your bible, it says this earth will no longer exist, and that you will live forever.

if time does not exist or will never approach infinity, then why is the term forever(or everlasting) used when discussing life after death?

Why the fuck did you people resurrect this thread?

>>2261116

its a good thread

>>2261119
HahaNO.jpg

>>2261124

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>>2261142

bumping to piss this guy off

>>2261142

umad?

>>2261361
MFW this retard is so pathetic they can't even come up with something better to do than bump a shitty troll thread.

>>2261369

I think you wanted something like this...

sage

>>2260527
actually, He lives in a dimension that overlaps ours; people in the third heaven can talk to people on earth. the third heaven is not above the second heaven (space).

>>2261406
Thank you.

THOSE WHO CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW THIS PROVES THE EXISTANCE OF JESUS OUR SAVIOR DO NOT HAVE THE IMAGINATION TO UNDERSTAND THE 4 CORNER TIME CUBE!

>>2261435
I'm with you, sage.

>>2261438
saging again

Get out, aether.

>>2262524
yeah, sage

HAHAHA,look at the educated stupid idiots of /sci/ crying because God exists...lol.
TIMECUBE FOR THE WIN.

This isnt proof of god. only spiral power

>>2262552
desu

<div class="math"> e^{ix} = cos x + isinx </div>