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Some theist just asked me: "Do you really believe what scientists say?"

>> No.2142678 [DELETED] 
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"In our culture, as part of the so-called western world, there are undoubtedly components of Christian values. I think that among those values there are ethical and humane principles that are applicable to any epoch." - Fidel Castro

That`s basically how i think about it too, exept i think that believing in god`s existence is a cultural value too.
I know people who, i know for sure, are smarter, older and wiser then me, but still believe there is a god.
Who am i to think i know better then them... ???

I just want to make my point here, the existence of a god is not the most fundamental question for a lot of theists (while it seems that for most atheists it is a fundamental question).

THE REASON WHY, someone thinks there is a God is THE BELIEF, not the idea of god itself.

In other words, someone can decide to rely on (belief in); culture, tradition, other people`s accounts, it`s own feeling, it`s on experience, extreme-scepticism etc etc...
and see one or more of these aspects as fundemental and therefor must belief in a god, in order to fallowing his/her own logic.

anyway thanks for listening and Fidel Castro is a hero
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljH17Rq67ck

>> No.2142707

What do scientists say?

>> No.2142710
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"In our culture, as part of the so-called western world, there are undoubtedly components of Christian values. I think that among those values there are ethical and humane principles that are applicable to any epoch." - Fidel Castro

That`s basically how i think about it too, exept i think that believing in god`s existence is a cultural value too.
I know people who, i know for sure, are smarter, older and wiser then me, but still believe there is a god.
Who am i to think i know better then them... ???

I just want to make my point here, the existence of a god is not the most fundamental question for a lot of theists (while it seems that for most atheists it is a fundamental question).

THE REASON WHY, someone thinks there is a God is THE BELIEF, not the idea of god itself.

In other words, someone can decide to rely on (belief in); culture, tradition, other people`s accounts, it`s own feeling, it`s on experience, extreme-scepticism etc etc...
and see one or more of these aspects as fundemental and therefor must belief in a god, in order to fallowing his/her own logic.

anyway thanks for listening and Fidel Castro is a hero
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljH17Rq67ck

>> No.2142731

oh like that Korean scientist who claimed to have cloned humans

as we know, scientists are without exception moral, uninfluenced by the source of their grant money, and infallible

>> No.2142739

>>2142731
what's wrong with cloning humans?

>> No.2142746

>>2142739
nothing, but he didn't discover it

he lied

>> No.2142751

>>2142739
I guess the point is that the guy was just lying never cloned anything and actually blew the grant money on cocaine and hookers.

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>>2142710

epic godwin here

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>>2142751
>cocaine and hookers.

and it was totally worth it

>> No.2142768

I believe what scientists say if they release their information to be replicated and publicly verified. Because then if he's lying, everybody will call him on his bullshit.

>> No.2142781

Fucking scientists, they're only in it for the money

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>> No.2142907

>>2142710
Belief in an aspect of people/the world or a concept is spirituality.

Religion is no different from cultism in using primal fears inherent in most people to take advantage of them.

God is a defined word meaning anything similar to "A great man, who lives in an intangible world of paradise, that will grant you eternal happiness if you do as he commands."

The word 'god' does not need redefined, it needs removed from language entirely along with any misconceptions it has attached to it.