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2080092 No.2080092 [Reply] [Original]

>christians say god knows both past, present and future
>christians say we have freewill

>wat

>> No.2080120

>atheists believe in the big gang
>they dont realize that if u'd knew every atom and its speed you could calculate future too

duh
no free will with or without god

>> No.2080125

>>2080120
PROVE IT

>> No.2080131

>>2080120

>does not know about quantum physics

>> No.2080141

>>2080131
Why do they call it QUANTUM physics?
What's so quantum about it?

>> No.2080147

>>2080141
this post is so stupid i almost passed out

>> No.2080151

>>2080147
Quantum means quantity. Where's the quantity?

>> No.2080153

I don't see anything wrong with that tbh. Just because god knows what choice you will make doesn't mean you never had the power to choose. If YOU know the future you can choose to change it by making a different choice, but you don't, so the choice god saw is just the choice you ended up making of your own free will.

But who cares? God doesn't exist, problem solved.

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>>2080131
>mfw any sufficiently advanced intellect would be able to calculate quantum

>> No.2080161

>christians say god always was and never had a beginning
>he created the universe because he loves us

wat

>atheist say there was nothing and then waves popped out and shit turned into matter

wat

>> No.2080176

>>2080161
>atheists say nobody knows what caused the beginning, but here's what happened afterward

>christians say a wizard did it

>> No.2080175

>>2080161
I know. They're both obviously wrong.

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Guys, guys, hey guys,
What if our universe is all inside one massive Higgs Boson

>> No.2080248

1. Not all Christians believe in free will
2. Not all Christians believe God knows the future
3. Some Christians believe in the whole "future is constantly changing" thing
4. Stop generalizing, it makes you look as dumb as crazy religious people

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>>2080092
some christians (calvinists) say we DON'T have free will.

because for god to see the future and be infallible leaves us no room to do anything other than what god has foreseen.

atzkot spinoza captcha for major major captcha lol. wonder what the chances are.

(spinoza rejected free will /sci/fags)

pic related (it's calvin)

>> No.2080264

>>2080248
>it makes you look as dumb as crazy religious people

Hahahahahahaha get a sense of proportion

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>> No.2080276

in the beginning

science=religion

after the beginning

science>religion

>> No.2080287

There are too many explanations but it looks like atheists believe everything that hasnt got the word God in it

>> No.2080307

>>2080092

> I've never read History
> Calvin, who is that?

herpedy derpedy

>> No.2080335

>>2080156
>calculate quantum
What do you mean ?

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>>2080120
i think you missed the point there anyway
how can a god hold you accountable for your actions when you are just living out your life in the way he planed you to.
no free will means heaven and hell are unjust.
he should have made a universe where everyone ends up going to heaven or he's an asshole.