/sci/ - Science & Math

and then all of /sci/ herped and decided not to talk about science

50 dollars says they found that alien radio telescope thing from contact.

Has to be something big since a lot of leading scientists posted on their blog about heading to Washington to take part in the conference.

Can't wait for the 15th then

>>2049540

links

They found a borg cube

Resistance is futile

>>2049540
please source??

If it was something incredibly huge like discovering definitive proof of alien life, then I don't think they'd be capable of keeping the secret.

This is probably something more mundane like another life-candidate planet

Does anyone know if this is good news or bad news?

>>2049555
how wouldnt they? they found whatever they found with infrared telescopes. how many people have those? and can produce the same quality that nasa could produce

also, they have kept secrets about alien life from us for years, and honestly, we have probably figured a lot of it (besides the nitty-gritty details), so maybe-just maybe, they will begin to tell us what is really going on (doubtful, but one can hope)

>nasa
sage

Do we know anything about this?Has anything been leaked?

>>2049579
are you upset in any way sir?

>look at link
>it includes the words M10, Chandra

Nasa plays Magic the Gathering???

>>2049555

Yeah, Its probably an earth twin in a nearby solar system. If it was more mundane they would have just stated it, if it was actually aliens they would never tell us.

>>2049567

> they have kept secrets about alien life from us for years

>>2049580
no, nothing at all. they made an announcement that they found an exceptional object. no other info on to the contents.

they have invited media from around the world.

speculation is all that exists right now

>>2049584
...shut up

Ok, question one, what is it that Chandra looks at?

>>2049567

Chandra X-ray observatory doing that infrared oberservation.

>>2049598
yes, and?

bump

maybe they found a new color

Big-ass asteroid that's going to beat the shit out of us.
Just you prepare for angry mobs and lots of looting.
I don't mind the apocalypse, but I'd prefer it to be a zombie apocalypse :/

Captcha: ramón bacharm

I'm one of the scientists heading over there. I plan to post a report on /sci/ if it turns out to be something interesting. (though I have a feeling it won't, the only reason I'm going is because I was *personally* invited)

Mathfag, but correct me if I'm wrong but from what I read about it;
Xrays are emitted by super hot objects in the sky. Therefore anything that Chandra discovered has to be super-heated. See stars / blackholes / gas clouds or block hole emissions, plus some other stuff.

Doubt its a planet or life.

>>2049629

Maybe they got a real photo of a black hole. Like where you can see the little hole in space surrounded by matter.

bump.This is indeed interesting

>>2049636
An actual image of a black hole (or rather, the area around it) would actually be quite impressive.

I'd be okay with that announcement.

When they say "cosmic neighborhood",how far away can we expect the object to be?

Bumping with speculation.
Maybe it is another Earth like planet, but they wouldn't need a full blown press conference for that would they? I think that not only have they found it, they might also be announcing plans for colonization.
Thoughts?

>>2049607

What do you mean "and?"
The observatory registers x-rays, it's an x-ray observatory that observes x-rays.

IE the opposite side of the spectrum to infrared.

>>2049656

Probably in the galaxy, definitely in our local cluster.

>>2049629
They can also analyze x-rays coming from an object emitting them and see what changes they experience before they are observed here near Earth and detect things like planets that way.

SCIENCE APRIL FOOLS!

Shit, there's a rumor that Obama's going to be at the news conference... maybe this is a big deal after all. Can anyone confirm that rumor?

>>2049694

Oh sweet lord.

This could be MASSIVE.

STAY TUNED, /SCI/

>>2049694

But he's in asia.

>>2049704
OMG THE NEWS IS OBAMA IS A WIZARD

>>2049694

I heard they're gonna dig up the bones of Einstein and Newton so they can be present for this as well.

DUDE IT MUST BE SO FREAKING HUGE

>>2049668
Maybe it's an Earth-like planet...

...that is moving at relativistic speeds toward our solar system.

probably something extremely anticlimactic like they located our suns twin star or something like that lol

>>2049712

If they find the rumored Red Dwarf star Nemesis that is said to be a companion to our Sun, that would be pretty freaking huge.

>>2049716
Lol, no. If they blow something like this up so large the president attends it pretty damn well should be an extraterrestrial signal or a planet with liquid water in the habitable zone.

>>2049694
What the...?!?!?!Do you have any proof?Where did you get that from?!??!?!

>>2049711
Source on that pic, please.

I like me some /sci/entific humor.

>>2049728
You sound like a secret service agent or tabloidist.
Going back to /x/ now...

>>2049728

his ass

>>2049727

Nemesis is said to be responsible for cyclical extinctions in our planets history, by periodically destabilizing the orbits of Oort cloud objects. Finding it and plotting its orbit would be huge.

>>2049727

ET signals wouldn't be x-ray, the same way we use radio for our signals. It stands to reason that our reasons would be the same as theirs.
How would water be detected via observable x-rays?

>>2049728
As far as I know it's only a rumor... like most of the stuff surrounding this conference. Some conformation would be nice

space-time wormhole

/x/ here, you guys are huge fags

>>2049732
there's not that many science-related
http://e-merl.com/2008-12-18-eeeee

>>2049765
>huge
>fags
right on both accounts

>Panelists providing analysis of the research include:
- Jon Morse, director, Astrophysics Division, NASA Headquarters in Washington
- Kimberly Weaver, astrophysicist, NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md.
- Alex Filippenko, astrophysicist, University of California, Berkeley

It seems to be headed by mainly astrophysicists, so I doubt it has anything to do with finding life or potential life.

>>2049751
Well if you are using a wireless form of mass electricity it would most likely be in the form of X-Rays.

>>2049781
*implying they'd spoil an announcement of that magnitude by stacking the panel with astrobiologists*

Could it be this?
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/news/new-structure.html

Im betting money that they found direct proof of a black hole.

HIGGS BOSON

>>2049812
dont think so. maybe something explaining this or related, but not just this.

>>2049812
>>2049812
>>2049812
omg guise we live in an atom!!! these bubbles are pi orbitals!!!

>exceptional object
*eyebrow*
Intriguing

>>2049781

Okay, I'm placing my bets now. They found the theorized supermassive black hole at the center of the milky way.

>>2049626
fuck you. That better not be the case, or else I'm leaving right this fucking minute to build a bunker way under the earth.
You guys are welcome to join me.
I shall provide coordinates if this will happen.
>>2049834
Wrong department, bro.
CERN's trying to find that shit.

The vagueness in this announcement is pissing me off.
>an exceptional object in our cosmic neighborhood
What constitutes an 'exceptional' object?
What are we to consider as our cosmic neighborhood? The Solar System? Or local region in the Milky Way? Our galaxy? Local Group? What??

>>2049812
astrofag here

looks surprisingly similar to bipolar outflow

>>2049867

Yeah I agree.

>>2049865
ex·cep·tion·al/ikˈsepSHənəl/Adjective
1. Unusual; not typical.
2. Unusually good; outstanding.

I really hope NASA is using this word properly. I want to hear about E.T NAO. It would unite humanity for a greater good Star Trek style.

>>2049867
>>2049895
Sagittarius A*

>>2049567
>Chandra
>infrared

what the fuck am i reading

>>2049867

We already know that's there.

Planet-killer asteroid. Calling it now.

>>2050002
Unlikely to be detected in x-ray.

>>2050009
Unless it were highly blue-shifted because it's coming at us fast.

My best guess for a really big announcement would be that they detected an x-ray outburst from a brown dwarf in the Oort cloud.

>>2050019
How would that be a big announcement?

>>2050026

A brown dwarf would be a pretty huge(bigger than Jupiter) sized object very near to us that we didn't know about previously.

Seems like major newsworthy information. The Oort cloud is part of the Sun's system.

>nemesis fags all over this thread

>>2050016
To be that blue-shifted, it'd have to be moving implausibly fast, so fast that even a small such asteriod would have more mass than Saturn.

>>2050026

Because we only have four possible objects right now to support the hypothesized Oort cloud. An object that massive would explain a lot of things about the outer solar system.

It would also mean we're in a binary star system.

>>2050031

A brown dwarf at that range would be impossible to miss in IR. We would never need to wait for an X-ray burst.

>>2050038

I guess somebody out there REALLY didn't like I Love Lucy.

I've contacted the editor of the blog; it has to do something with some sort of matter, presumably
dark matter. Why ever it involves IR rays, I don't really know.

I'll upload the message with a source.

>>2050070

Andromeda is made of antimatter and annihilation events are giving off tremendous heat as its corona comes into contact with that of the Milky Way.

>>2050051
>I guess somebody out there REALLY didn't like I Love Lucy.
... wait what?

>>2050051
Brown dwarfs can be pretty cold. A T dwarf would be hard to miss with the current generation of space-based instruments, but a colder object, including one of the hypothesized Y class could go unnoticed at such a distance.

>>2049492

>>2050098
meant to link this post
>>2050057

Everyone is forgetting they called it an object....
That would mean this would refer to the generalization of what an object is to most people. IE stars, planets, comets ect... not dark matter or other non-object things.

http://www.ufoevolution.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6661

>mfw comments

ITT: people who don't know what Chandra actually looks for

>>2050082

1952: Radio transmissions into space
2010: Incoming relativistic projectile

>>2050090
>I'm bullshitting on /sci/ and nobody can stop me

http://arxiv.org/abs/0802.4387

>>2050122
if you have additional information, id love to hear it

>>2050133
This shows that I'm "bullshitting" how?

>>2050090
We can see anything of any significance over background temperature at that range (and any gas giant will be), but go ahead and move that goal post again. I'm curious as to what you'll pull out of your ass next.

>>2050149

We can see them at interstellar ranges. We could detect pretty much anything over 100K out to at least a light year. You could put Jupiter out there and we'd be able to see it as though it were waving a flare.

>>2050160
I haven't moved the goalposts at all. It's not necessary, because the *ability* to see something doesn't mean we have actually seen it. Those with good eyes have the ability to see Uranus, but it wasn't recognized as a planet in antiquity.

I said "could go unnoticed" not "could not possibly be seen." You invoke fallacy to describe what I'm saying, but you're the one constructing a straw man. I don't understand why you're so hostile anyway. This isn't exactly an ideologically charged issue.

Wouldn't it have been obvious if there were a brown dwarf sister star to the Sun a long time ago due to its gravitational effects?

>>2050190
depends on its distance, a lightyear or more is a long, long, long fucking ways away

>>2050190
Not really, but in fact its gravitational effects could explain some enigmatic things about the solar system, including the orbit of Sedna.

>>2049897
No it wouldn't, it would get the fear mongers running full blast about how we need to weaponize space to protect ourselves from 'the alien threat' and give the US military all the excuse and more it needs to attack all opposition under the pretense of protecting humanity.

>>2050178
Everything is an ideologically charged issue on the internets Brother.

Fucking Sucks, but them's the breaks.

>>2050175
>>2050178

We track pluto with infrared imaging because at 44 Kelvin it's "very hot" against the background of space.

WISE could not have missed a brown dwarf anywhere near Sol during its surveys. The only way there could be one there and for us to not know about it is if it were kept secret. ie: hurr nemesis conspiracy.

>>2050218
All the data from WISE hasn't been combed through yet, much less prepared for publication. WISE just announced its first "ultra-cool brown dwarf" discovery days ago.

>>2050249
>>2050218
less wise, more chandra

At first I thought it was an asteroid. They seem to be making a pretty big deal about it, and something capable of destroying us would certainly warrant their exuberance. However, x-rays throws a wrench into that theories gears. This is now driving me nuts. Something emitting x-rays "within our cosmic neighborhood?" Obviously, the distance is vague at best but I'd imagine that whatever they've found is within a few light years at most. Someone claimed they'd found evidence of dark matter... source?

Maybe they will just make shit up to get more funding?

>>2050218
>>2050249

WISE isn't even the first instrumentation capable of seeing something like a companion dwarf, it's just the most accurate so far. It won't find anything either, because our accuracy crossed the necessary threshold (Jupiter would be detectable at over a light year) at least ten years ago.

>>2050272

CHANDRA largely concerns itself with studying distant galaxies, dying and dead stars (including black holes). Asteroids are not on the menu.

>>2050277
>Maybe they will just make shit up to get more funding?

Sort of like global warming?

>>2050249
That 'ultra cool dwarf' was 600 K... anything that hot within or near our solar system would have raised a shit load of red flags

>>2050272
A big discovery by Chandra may concern dark matter/energy, but its DM observation is done by studying galactic collisions. That would mean "cosmic neighborhood" likely refers to the local group or supercluster.

>>2050317
Indeed it would. What does this have to do with anything?

>mfw I'll have to wait until monday to find out if this is something that is going to kill me.

This should be a fairly easy riddle. What could be located within a few light years and emits x-rays?

>>2050339
Anything that hot, that close to us would have been detected by older instruments. Since no such object has been detected it is a reasonable assumption that a the announcement does not involve a brown dwarf in or near our solar system

>>2050364
Giant space hospitals

>>2050354
Ya fuck this, I'm not going to take the chance. I'll just kill myself now. I knew this picture would come in handy.

>>2050366
That doesn't follow. You're very bad at logic as you fail to recognize that for your post to be a sound argument, every brown dwarf would have to be as hot as that one.

>>2050199

What exactly is enigmatic about the solar system and how would it be explained by a companion star?

Mind you there's nothing enigmatic about the orbit of Sedna at all, so I'm mainly just asking to see how ignorant you are.

>>2050382

It would have to be at least as hot as Jupiter (surface temp approx 160K), and we've had the ability to see anything like that in the Oort cloud for over a decade.

I hope it's pulsars, I mean seriously, how the fuck do THEY work?

/SCI/ MAKE ME FEEL BETTER.

ARE WE ALL GOING TO DIE OR NOT?

>>2050419
Yes.

>>2050409
>Mind you there's nothing enigmatic about the orbit of Sedna at all

Well, it's discoverer http://www.mikebrownsplanets.com/2010/10/theres-something-out-there-part-2.html and practically every other expert would disagree with you. As for me, I'm done. I can thing of more appealing activities than continuing discussion with someone as odiously obnoxious and insulting as you. Go nurse your over-inflated sense of superiority you fucking autist.

It's obviously the Large Hadron Collider.

>>2050419
You'll find out on Monday, bro.
If we are indeed threatened by something in our lifetime, you go do whatcha gotta do.
If it's gonna happen a few hundred years away, just ignore it and continue burning fossil fuels.

>>2050425
>practically every other expert

That doesn't seem to be the case at all. Its orbit is not appreciably different from other outer-system objects like comets. It just happens to be somewhat large.

So sorry to make you feel unwelcome /x/, but you probably should have stayed there.

...could it be... a little blue box???

>>2049711
>earth like planet, only visible in x-ray
nope.jpg

ITS A FUCKING PUSSY MONSTER SWALLOWING THINGS

They are going to announce South is actually North and vice versa.

Fuck I am kind of starting to get worried that it might be a world ending rock headed our way.

I mean a bunch of astrophysicists, the rumors of Obama being there, doing it on a monday so we can all enjoy one last weekend, etc.

Like they only do TV events for the big shit, like the really big bad shit...

I guess all I can is hope it is something cool but not deadly they want to tell the world about... I mean if it was the end of the world some one will have leaked it by now right? ... RIGHT?

Well I guess it was nice knowing you guys.

>>2050638
You're on 4chan, you hate everyone on here, get your shit together

>>2050670
Meh in the time before the end of all life we might as well admit we are all gay for each other.

bumping for interest.....what the hell did they find?

going to above top secret to see if there are any leaks these.

A horrible telescope accident sent a guy with a cellphone back in time.

>>2050638
if it was something that was going to end the world, someone most likely would have leaked it SOMEWHERE on the internet.

Don't be afraid. There are hundreds and hundreds of potential threats to our existence. Most of them we would never see coming.

i will just leave this here

and no need to find out who i am posting this (you know who you are)

i am using exceptional anonymity software

the chinese already know about it

>>2050747
see but I fear knowing it is coming.

I mean bam woosh never see it coming and there being nothing after is what I want... knowing it is coming and having to wait for it... that is fucking hell man.

>>2050761
>>2050747

no and no

i attached the picture in this thread

stop speculating and just look at what it is that is the object in question

>>2050750

wth is this

>>2050750
What am I looking at?

>>2050766
is it god?

>>2050750
oh shit is that what I think it is...?

Fuck I am shocked they are not doing this at the UN... this is a fucking game changer.

>>2050750

I thought you guys were trolling, but after seeing this, it's pretty obvious we are fucked.

The image that was blurred WAS an image NASA released.. The Chinese were saying they found objects that NASA has known about and used that as an example of the cover-up.. They also said they have been discussing what they found with NASA and it sparked an internal debate. I'm thinking maybe they are holding onto the info until it has been disclosed.

>>2050783
>>2050795
Any hints for those of us who have a less terrifying major?

My friend Tim (who works at nasa doing data interpretation from satellites, among other things) informs me that they found a radio-loud planet.

Planets aren't radio-loud.

Species on planets can be.

>>2050802

editied released by NASA

>>2050750

china finds same thing but does not edit it like these retarded american policy makers do

>>2050806

and what exactly is so terrifying about this?

So, is this first contact or is it hurtling ball of death? Or is it maximum overhype?

>>2050803
It is a downed ship.

>>2050806
What is it though ? Or like, theories?

I am not saying it is terrifying. All I am saying is that the world is about to get a wake up call that the US government has knows about for years and years.

The chinese have started the disclosure process by releasing images classified in the US rediscovered by their own satellites

inb4 china doesn't have the capability, keep on listening to the media
>>2050810

if i say what it is, this site will immediately be flagged by surveillance.

just wait, i give you pictures and these are available to the entire world because the chinese have started the disclosure project

the exact nature of the image though...even the chinese aren't talking about yet

>mfw this ends up being nothing

>>2050814

I'm guessing they're assuming that slightly lighter area is from a thruster then?

suddenly itt

I've got no idea what we're talking about here. What are our theories so far?

>>2050873

no one will say anything, so it's probably all bullshit. yea there's a press conference on monday, but it's probably nothing too significant

At 15:14 UT on Oct 20th, 2010 Swift began a 1ks target of opportunity observation of MAXI J1409-619 (Yamaoka et al, 2010, ATEL #2959). Utilizing photon counting mode data we find a uncatalogued bright X-ray source inside the MAXI error circle at the following UVOT enhanced location, RA, Dec(J2000) = 212.01068, -61.98340, which is equivalent to :

RA(J2000) = 14h 08m 02.56s,
Dec(J2000) = -61d 59m 00.3s,

with an estimated uncertainty of 1.9 arcseconds radius (90% confidence). This source lies 7.3 arcseconds from the MAXI localization, inside the 0.2 degree error circle. We note that this position is inconsistent with any catalogued X-ray source and lies ~0.4 degrees away from the Galactic plane, and therefore conclude that MAXI J1409-619 is a new Galactic X-ray Transient source. The nearest catalogued source is 2MASS 14080271-6159020, a J=15.874 source 2.1 arcseconds from the center of the XRT error circle, and is likely the IR counterpart of the transient.

The photon counting spectrum, corrected for pile-up, is well fit by an absorbed power-law model with an absorption of ~3 x 10^22 cm^-2, and a photon index of -0.5 (+0.1/-0.6). The average flux over the XRT observation is 1.3 x 10^-10 erg/s/cm^-2 (0.3-10 keV), uncorrected for absorption. The source shows significant variability over the short 1ks observation, with the count rate varying between 0.8 and 0.3 XRT counts/s, the lightcurve shows a possible sinusoidal variation with a period of ~720 seconds, although we note that it is impossible to tell if this represents an actual source periodicity given the length of the data.

The BAT hard X-ray transient monitor confirms the detection of MAXI J1409-619 in the 15-50 keV band. Analysis of archival images at the XRT position shows that the source was first detected on 18-Oct-2010 at a level of 0.0068 +/- 0.0013 ct/s/cm^2, or ~30 mCrab. The source rate appears to be rising, although we do not yet have the transient monitor data from the past 24 hours. It was not detected on 17-October-2010 (1-sigma upper limit of 0.004 ct/s/cm^2), the date of the peak in the MAXI light curve (Yamaoka et al, ATel #2959).

Based on the shape of the light curve, the characteristics of the X-ray spectrum (flux and hard photon index), the location close to the Galactic plane, plus the presence of an IR counterpart close to the XRT error circle, MAXI J1409-619 may be a good SFXT candidate.

Further multi-wavelength observations of this transient are encouraged to determine its nature.
Fuck these trolls spreading images and shit, this is a legit email people are receiving, and it is all rather esoteric, i don't expect half of you to understand.

http://www.astronomerstelegram.org/?read=2962..

>>2050844

>mfw blind skepticism is just as bad as blind faith

Here's the figures, by the way. Only 58% of US catholics accept evolution. How do you explain this?

>>2050892

Can you put it a form someone without a physics degree would understand please?

>>2050750
>>2050802
Trolls or /x/fags

>>2050941

Im far from an expert but it seems to me to say that whatever it is is stacking photons up as it seems to be heading toward us.

I could be reading it entirely wrong though.

>>2050750
>>2050802
Trolls or /x/fags

>>2050966
I take that back, after further reading, it looks to me like we just found a baby black hole!

Can't wait for Monday now

Bump.

>>2051044

Well atleast it's finally something that makes sense instead of pictures of surfaces when it's an x-ray telescope.

>>2051044
I wonder if that's dangerous to us right now...

I guess we have to wait til Monday for them to explain it more.

>>2051107
a black hole doesn't have stronger gravity in total to what it did before it became a black hole. Example, wouldnt planets and stuff keep on orbiting like they were before as long as they werent blown away by the star exploding or something?

I hope you all realize that the government has lied to us before... and regardless of what is said at the conference, it might not be true.

I'm sure there is something they found, but they aren't necessarily going to tell us what it is.

>>2050892
If they're going to tell us there's a black hole tens of thousands of light years away, three weeks after it was already in the news, then we should just stop funding them altogether.

>>2050941
It's a binary star system in the milky way that's emitting more x-rays than previously detected.

http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/Binary-System-Found-in-X-ray-Nova-State-2.jpg/

>>2050889
>>2050892
This is already weeks old and hardly that "exceptional".

wormhole

bump

So when/how are they going to announce this thing?

I'm scared :(

>>2051330
Monday afternoon, press conference, no further details at this time, come back later

>>2051349

Thank you sir

NASA just released this image of the object

Nasa always hold press congerences without giving enough detail. relax kids.

>>2051390
I LOVE THAT GUY

It'll be shiny, it won't be scary.

The reason for this is we don't want riots marking the last moments of humanities survival.

They'll announce something sorta-neato.

Guys. "exceptional" is all simply a matter of point of view. This holds true more with the sciences than almost anything else.

Example:
Truly "exceptional" discovery to a geneticist: Solving a long-standing mystery, an achievement perhaps even worthy of a Nobel, would be pinpointing why chromosomes are synthesized in a certain order instead of all simultaneously during meiosis, as in finding why transcription does not even start on some chroms unless some other ones are finished first. This really is a big mystery at the moment.

Truly "exceptional" genetics research to Joe Public: Make a talking dog, or a kooky karazy mutant man with psychic powers, or a monkey that shits rainbows and chocolate chip cookies, or something else stupendously out-of-touch with the field and realities.

So, it's no surprise that here, in public, people hear of something that's "exceptional" .. yeah, to astrophysicists... and because, relative to their absence of hard knowledge and hence hard expectations on the subject, they are constantly equating astrophysics progress once again in a manner outrageously out of touch with reality. Hence, this thread is all "Big NASA announcement", and many here are all "IT'S TOTALLY ALIENS GUYS" or "IT'S AN ASTEROID COMING TO KILL US ALL" etc.

Some of you may watch the meeting, expecting some dramatic unveiling of aliens or something, and end up not understanding a thing that was said because you're not astrophysicists, other than at least interpreting that it had nothing to do with aliens. And then, you'll go to /x/ and go "GODDAMN GOVERNMENT TOTALLY CENSORED AND CHANGED THE BROADCAST, REPTILIANS INTERFERED WITH IT SO WE DON'T KNOW" and all other manners of bullshit that makes me ashamed of the human race.

>>2051390
That movie was so awesome. I get chills.

>>2051417
So, why do you even post here then.

There ARE better places to discuss science on the internet than 4chan.

>>2051417
Exceptional to the astronomy community - Not something that was discovered and announced a month ago. Interesting perhaps, exceptional no.

>>2051443

I pretty much only drop by sometimes if all other the boards I visit are boring. So when I see a big shit storm on the front page I'm compelled to at least try to bring in some reasoning, into what could have passed as a thread cut-pasted from /x/.

>>2051417
They did say an exceptional OBJECT. Now, an asteroid would be a dumb prediction for something discovered by an x-ray telescope, but if the announcement was truthful, it would have to be something existing out in space that they have now found. Solving a gap in knowledge, as you describe for genetics, doesn't actually match their wording, so inclined as I am to agree with the gist of what you're saying, you've just created a false analogy.

>>2051475
Furthermore, it's described as being "in our cosmic neighbourhood." That wording is interesting, because most of the things Chandra observes (quasars, gamma-ray burst afterglows, cataclysmic x-ray variables, black holes, neutron stars, really hot gas clouds) are not to be found in "our cosmic neighbourhood" unless you're using that phrase VERY loosely. In other words, you're downplaying the unusual aspects of the announcement somewhat.

I'm calling large scale anti-matter object

that or a they've found a dyson sphere

>>2051519
>Dyson sphere
How would you see it?

>>2051532

heat motherfucker

all heat couldn't be completely blocked

>>2051532

http://home.fnal.gov/~carrigan/infrared_astronomy/Other_searches.htm

>>2051537
Wouldn't you look in the infra-red for this heat? Why x-ray? That'd have to be one really hot Dyson sphere. I think at that point their energy harvesting would have to be pretty inefficient.

>>2051537
Assuming it uses matter in it's construction.

It's Superman!

>>2051552
It's a Dyson Sphere set up by an extraterrestrial civilization around a star nobody cares about as a beacon to communicate with other species.

>>2051552

Unless that's the whole point.

to collect energy FOR detection.

It will be within range on Wednesday.

>>2051568
What do they power it with?

>>2051570
Yeah, but what if the detectors are working for the republicans?

>>2051580

... With the star it encompasses?

maybe they've found caught some exotic stage of star death/birth

>>2051580
The star. The sphere just converts the rays to frequencies not found from natural causes.

>>2051580
Are you aware what a Dyson sphere is and what it is used for?

>>2051552
Maybe the alien babes are really fuckin' hawt!

>>2051585
>>2051585

Now I'm scared....

>>2051593
Why use the star? Why not use something efficient?

>>2051607

wat?

You don't belong on /sci/

>>2051607

4/10

>>2051607
...
Are you aware of how much energy a star produces?

Ok all bullshit aside realistic/probable suggestions

>>2051607
Fine. They use a massive fusion reactor the size of a star. Happy?

>>2051622

wormhole

>>2051622
An asteroid that has the image of the Virgin Mary on it.

>>2051607
If I was able to build Dyson spheres I won't use shitty inefficient stars. I would put on my robe and wizard's hat and summom epic level X-Ray elemental from positive energy plane

>>2051627
Are you aware of what a star is?

>>2051622

A super-luminous apple pie

>>2051622

>>2049647 is what I favor.

>>2051627
How do they keep it cool?

>>2051641
That was the joke, Inurdaes. Chill.

>>2051641 didn't see what he did there

>>2051645
They keep it in a vacuum flask, and just use the heat absorbed by radiation.

>>2051641

>0/10

>>2051622

maybe they've found a small black hole within our cosmic neighborhood

Maybe this has been throwing off our calculations of mass within our solar system maybe our measurement of c as well

MAYBE ALL PHYSICS UP TO THIS POINT ARE BASED ON LIES!

Holy shit, what if it's aliens bringing back the Voyager spacecraft?
"Hey, guys, I think you dropped this. Want it back?"

My body is ready for this.

And I am terribly excited.

they've found the massive energy barrier that prevents anything with mass from leaving our solar system

>>2051607
>>2051618
>>2051627
>>2051641

Oh god, I actually laughed out loud.

>>2051656
...Motherfucker.

>>2049812

Holy shit, our galaxy is a giant p-orbital!

>>2051676

Don't be silly, it's a NP-orbital.

>>2051627
>>2051641
I came.

They probably discovered that Pluto is a planet after all.

/x/ here

They finally found where the ghosts are from!

they found a probe.... not made by us

Oh god, why must we wait!?

my guess is that this isn't actually anything interesting,
but I'm just thinking it is and that you all are thinking it is because I'm tripping

Whatever it is just remember where you towel is.

>>2051748
What if it's a giant towel!?

>>2051748
wouldn't that be awesome.

If vogon bulldozers aren't exceptional, fuck if i know what is.

And by awesome I mean totally terrible

I hope it's a space whale.

>>2051748
Oh yeah... cuz I wouldn't want to go anywhere without my wonderful motherfucking towel now would I?
I mean, nothing's more useful in a ship to ship battle or alien diplomacy than a soft, fluffy fucking towel right?

>>2051758

Then it will probably just want to get high.

>>2051399
>SU-PER-MAN *FLASH*
I cried, not manly tears, girl tears, so many girl tears.

>>2049614
I...I think i lost an IQ point reading this.

Fuck, this is potentially huge.

WHAT DO I DO?

Asteroid that'll hit us in 2012, calling it now.
Hell yes, it's about time for mankind being wiped out.

>>2051789
What, you never heard of octarine?

>>2051759
Um... people of Earth. This is Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz of the Galactic Hyperspace Planning Council. As you are no doubt be aware, plans for development of the outlying regions of the Galaxy require the building of a hyperspatial express route through your star system. And regrettably, your planet is one of those scheduled for demolition.

There’s no point in acting surprised about it. The plans and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years. If you can’t be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, that’s your own problem.

Apathetic bloody planet, I've no sympathy at all.

It's a huge armada of sex hungry space sluts battlecruisers approaching.
We're doomed.

it's probably one of those jump gate things in mass effect.

i am sure of it because mass effect is a true story.

>>2051802

Im find wit that

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1255410/pg1

Eureka! I've found it!

>>2051803

Oh, sweet blueberry waifu.

Just an old women they said
Don't listen to her predictions they said

*asteroid on impact course is discovered*
win / win / win scenario for space program(s)

NASA, other space orgs, and private companies would get hundreds of billions over the next decade to build means of destroying/deflecting the asteroid. Then

1) they succeed, saving the Earth and guaranteeing hundreds of billions more.

2) They fail, but the asteroid misses Earth and we benefit from decades of ridiculously well funded research and development.

3) They fail and the asteroid hits Earth, wiping out all life so no one's left around to yell at NASA and the others.

CTHULHU F'TAGHN

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1254911/pg1

Vatican supposedly has booked three media time slots for Tuesday, November 16th..

>>2051802
I know...what I must do

>Is it E.T.?

I wonder if it'll be as interesting as this:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chandra/news/10-048.html

>>2051810
>Lazors
>visible from the side with no medium to scatter in

what the fuck am i reading

>>2051831
Damn, this is getting interesting

If someone can confirm that rumor about the president having a press conference/being involved with the NASA conference... then maybe it could be something big. Until then I'm assuming some boring phenomenon

i would jizz EVERYWHERE if it turned out to be aliens.

Jesus is actually an alien, the stories were dumbed down to be more believable to the masses. He's coming back to check up on us. Poor guy.

>>2051858
Me too. But for the first time I actually understand why old people are afraid of immigrants. I'll try to chill about it and actually learn about them, but it probably won't be for a generation or two that they're truly accepted.

If it is aliens.

90% - boring phenomenon
9% - an interesting phenomenon
0.9% - a previously unknown phenomenon or confirmation of one
0.09% - something possibly hazardous to Earth like an asteroid
0.01% - Anything suggesting intelligent life

>>2051869

What's wrong with you man? You don't have a fetish about being raped by a tentacle alien chick?

I, for one, will graciously welcome our new alien overlords.

Light up the beacon Pippin.

>>2050133
>>2050082

i laughed my ass off

>>2051876
Of course I dream about alien tentacle chicks. I'm just a little bit apprehensive about them before we learn what they're like. I'll get over it quickly enough, I'm sure, but the general population probably won't.

I WANT TO BELIEVE

I bet that NASA found a way for astronauts to fight the effects of zero gravity by installing a soloflex machine in the space station.

>>2051886
Implying you're not a bit apprehensive about earth girls.

>>2051803
icame.jpg

>>2051912
Okay, fair enough.

>>2051926
>Scared of women
>Sincerely concerned about racism towards extraterrestrials
>Tentacle fetish
I think this is /sci/ summed up in one guy.

>>2051831
Yes the Vatican is freaking. World leaders will be announcing a global day off from work Tuesday following the announcement. It is expected people will want to be with their families. The Vatican is going to call upon all Catholics to attend church on Tuesdaysa to "renew vows of faith" and welcome the discovery of more of God's children.

>>2050892
>MAXI J1409-619 may be a good SFXT candidate.

They're looking for good Street Fighter vs Tekken players?

>mf@ all the xtards talking about the vatican and days off and huge world-changing announcements about extraterrestrial intelligent life based solely off of unsourced posts on a conspiracy theory website

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

>>2051950
sup /x/

Mailed my professor, he's attending.
He replied, he's under NDA, but it'll be on the news everywhere in the world tomorrow.
Confirmed for something BIG. I'm scared a little.

so wait if vatican booked a slot tuesday right after the announcements....i don't wanna DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw imma post this incase its aliens

>>2051996
Scared? Fuck that, i`ll be the first one out there to greet them and probably the first one to die too, i fear no death.

>>2051998
pics or it didn't happen

>>2051996
oh, come on, why can't you just say something so out there that it just won't be believed by anyone in this thread?
surprise spoiler -_-

>>2051996
tell us more or we call bullshit

>>2052003
do you fear being anally probed? because thats more likely

Can somebody provide actual evidence that Obama will be attending or that the Vatican has scheduled a press conference afterwards? It seems like a bunch of horsecock as of now.

>>2052026
Nope.

>itt: everyone assumes the vatican actually holds some semblence of real power in this world

captcha: soicitenc life

Man is everyone going to be hurt. When NASA just says some shit about finding more extrosolar planets after noticing a x-ray from a superhot planet or star, or something else of the sort.

>>2052047
>itt: everyone assumes the vatican actually holds some semblence of real power in this world


5/10, mediocre trolling.

>>2049614

i read everything in this thread before finding out i missed this post.
all the passionate, intense debate, the jokes flying back and forth, the misunderstandings, the fear, and then this.
It had to have been the single funniest thing ever on the internet.

end. thread.

jesus christ this is fucking patethic, nasa will probably talk again about boring and uninteresing shit like they always does, NO ALIENS NO INTERESING STUFF SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY NO NEED FOR 300 REPLIES OF CANCER OP AND FANBOYS HAVEING BONERS OVER ALIENS FUCK OFF RETARDS

>>2052062
>install 4chan addon for firefox
>hide thread

>>2052057

butthurt catholic, u mad?

>>2052047
how many catholics are there worldwide? a billion? thats quite a bit of power.

>>2052069


maybe you should learn how to read?

>>2052062
But nasa never holds a press conference for world media for boring shit. Hell, when they discover a sun eating planet mass creating a interstellar shape 15 times the size of our solar system, it barely gets a page on their website

>>2052079
This.

>>2052079
They invite the press to all these things... nobody shows up

>>2052079

> a sun eating planet mass creating a interstellar shape 15 times the size of our solar system

Say what?

>>2052086
a sun, eating planet mass, creating a shape (teardrop) 15 times the size of our solar system

>>2052074
Quite a bit of tard-power. Don't get me wrong, retards have tard-strength on their side, but we have brains and tactics.

Fuck the vatican.

Thread is no longer bumping.

>>2052096
make a new one

Jesus appears, 4chan and/sci/ is full of atheists and lame House quotes no more!

Shame it won't happen, I bloody hate House.

>>2052079
>it barely gets a page on their website
didn't they announce an announcement in a similar way a couple months / a year before?

>>2052104
>Jesus appears, 4chan and/sci/ is full of atheists and lame House quotes no more!
It would be fun if Jesus do appear. We can finally get rid of retarded religious leaders and just ask Him what is and isn't allowed. No more making stuff up using manuals intended for shepherds.

Modern Bible interpretation is like trying to build a Spaceship using instructions intended for a stone age wooden canoe.

Here's something for the Nemesis fans to chew on:

We present an updated dynamical and statistical analysis of outer Oort cloud cometary evidence suggesting the sun has a wide-binary Jovian mass companion...
John J. Matese, Daniel P. Whitmire (Submitted on 26 Apr 2010)

http://devilfinder.com/find.php?q=solar+companion

brown dwarf companion:
mass: 3.4% of sun's mass
period: 28.2 million years
orbit: 1.7 ly semi-major axis
closest approach: ~orbit of Pluto

reette cuftoms.

>>2052142
>Nemesis fans
wat?

Reading NASA link.
>Alex Filippenko, astrophysicist, University of California, Berkeley
http://astro.berkeley.edu/~alex/
Alex Filippenko
Dept. of Astronomy
601 Campbell Hall
University of California
Berkeley, CA 94720-3411
Office: 439 Campbell
Phone: (510) 642-1813
Fax: (510) 642-3411
Email: alex@astro.berkeley.edu
You know what to do.

>people expecting nasa to talk about aliens
sage for newfaggotry

>>2052098
>make a new one
no, how about you go back to /b/?

>>2052152
can someone actually call him please? Even if he says nothing, we will be able to gather something. Eg, they way he says it etc.

If he talks in a serious way - shit could be real
if he talks in a 'oh yes its amazing but youll have to wait and watch the release!' way - its shit all

>>2052184

It is 3:30 AM there.

>>2052187
fuck

Isn't Filippenko one of those UFO faggots?

LOL!


How the fuck did you faggots get a board of your own?

>>2051953
I lol'ed

needs a new bump

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>>2052929

>somethhttp://www.google.com/recaptcha/api/image?c=03AHJ_VuvoXbSlm8SWtPvUwD5OGWnxHCjBgOpg0QRtycln
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lol

>>2052929
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They obviously discovered Allah. Why else would The Vatican schedule television slots the following day? Also explains why Obama is attending (he's a Mooselim).

dam this could be big