/sci/ - Science & Math

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Like, consider the education system in place, I already knew this was going to happen eventually.

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Makes sense even algebra is hardly used in the workplace.

that not only are americans dumb, they continue to make themselves dumber.

that's disgusting.

Why stop there? Simple addition has been pissing me of recently, let's strike the whole thing. We hardly use it anyways.

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>>2046981
One more step towards the privatization of education.

Wondering what the hell did I do to piss off a cabbage.

>[Citation needed]

>>2046994
I think it's because of their food, somehow companies try to gain more profit by making sure they have to eat gigantic portions with all kinds of chemicals in it

but yea, dumb people generally don't care about interesting things, so why not drop school altogether.
maybe they'll start working

I would care if Khan Academy didn't exist. At my High School in Utah I had finished all the math classes offered after my sophomore year. After the final day of my Algebra II class I asked my math teacher: "Now what?" He told me if I was interested in learning more math he would see that it happens. For the rest of my High School career I had a private math/computer science class with him which was just me and him dicking around in math and computer science for 1.5 hours during the school day during his off period. Some days we would just leave campus and go sit in a cafe and talk about math and computer science over a cup of coffee. My last semester of High School I had accumulated enough credits to graduate early. However, I still showed up to learn from him even though I was not technically enrolled anymore.

>>2047022
simply awesome

>>2047022
This.

No use trying to pound math into the average kid's head when they are just going to not care and forget it once they are done with the test. The kids generally interested will find ways to learn.

that's weird. here in Massachusetts they just made it mandatory last year that everyone needs 4 years of math to graduate from a public school. ignorance is bliss...

>>2047040
Massachusetts. Harvard. M.I.T.

That state isn't as fundamental religious as most places. You can actually notice yourself getting stupider as you drive further south in the United States.

>>2047022
I remember when I was in high school a couple of years ago. By the time I was a senior, I had finished nearly all of the advanced courses in my middle-of-nowhere school because I loaded up on them my previous years.

My final year, I was taking an AP English class and an AP Physics class. And that was it; I left after those two hours. I would have loved to have a teacher like yours back then.

We need more teachers who fucking care about students and their ambitions instead of dicking around and dumbing down our nation.

>>2047062
Did you have no electives to go to?

>>2047062
This is me right now. I go to School for AP Physics, AP Calc BC, and a free period with a fly as fuck English teacher whom I talk to about current events/the humanities, and then I go home.

>>2047062
>>2047083
Jesus Christ. This really happens? What happened to schools challenging kids?

And how do colleges look upon the fact that you only went to two or three classes during senior year?

successful troll is successful

gullible nerds don't know 'bout sauce or gtfo

>>2047103
They don't give a fuck because they aren't there to educate you they are there to make a bunch of money off kids who think getting text books read to them in a power point presentation will be beneficial to them in the future.

>>2047108
>implying public high schools exist to make money

>>2047110
>Implying my post in referencing High Schools and not colleges.

>>2047103
Wonders if they give a shit or not....

>I made the Florida Tech Thread. Got Accepted Today
>12.5K reoccurring scholarship every year I go came in the mail with my acceptance letter

I guess that answers it? It's sad I know...

>>2047108
>make a bunch of money off kids...getting text books read to them in a power point presentation

Graduate teaching assistant here. OH SNAP, that is the most accurate description of undergraduates I have EVER read.

>>2047103
I'm the second poster, sorry I didn't clarify.

>>2047103
Meh. I'm the first guy, and I went to Cornell. They asked about it and my guidance counselor explained the situation. They seemed to understand; I live in a rural town with very little in the way of funding.

>finish highschool math program
>what now?
>oh wait, we have a partnership with the local college
>take college math courses in highschool
>fuckyeah transferable credits

>>2047122
The nearest college is the biggest joke of a community college. The private High School I go to has more prestigiousness than the "college". I don't say that out of zero personal experience, I took a Music Theory course for shits there last year and it was a joke. Besides, having a free period for intellectual conversations was more beneficial than any English/Economics class I've ever been in. I didn't even have to act like pseudo-intellectual for him to teach me things. Obviously the colleges I'm applying to don't care about it either.

>>2047110
No, but they get funding from the government. Also, thanks to Bush's 'No Child Left Behind Act,' if one school in a district does poorly the entire district gets less funding for it, thus public schools opt to dumb down their curriculum in order to raise their test scores so they can get more funding, hence OPs post that US schools are cancelling certain math classes.

>>2047122
Just make sure that the credits transfer to something useful.
My local schools are eager to get high school kids paying for college credits at discount. However, the credits they offer are mostly intro courses that do not count even towards general education requirements.

Well humanity is fucked. We had a good run at it for a while.

>>2047130
>mfw if that's true

>>2047022
>High School
>semester
Really?

>>2047140
You read the "in Utah" part right?

>>2047138
>mfw if that's true
>mfw if
>my face when if


>my
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>when
>if

>>2047140
I don't get it.

>>2047145
What? That sounds grammatically correct.

>>2047144
What? I read the entire post.

>>2047152
>>2047153
What?-Mind

>>2047152
American detected.

>>2047152
It isn't, unless you're looking at "mfw" as a separate clause. The way we use it on 4chan, it is.

>>2047162
>my face when if
That sounds correct. Clearly you've never read or written a legal document.

My children are getting home schooled. They are gonna do calculus and read Nietzsche and Kant by the time they are twelve.

>>2047130
Oh God. That's sounds terrible, Unitedstatian.

>>2047166
>I molest my children.
>They mostly like it.
>Mostly.

Confirmed for hurf.

HEY FAGGOTS, PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.

Highschools making more math classes less mandatory is a fucking good thing. I remember in my algebra 2 class (mandatory), half the class didn't care at all, 1/4 the class sucked at math, and 1/4 actually liked what they were doing. For the 3/4s of the class that didn't like the class, the class was useless for them. You aren't going to need algebra if you go into the majority of all fields. You're gonna need it to become an engineer tho, but how many fucking kids are gonna be engineers if they suck at math?

If some kid is going to VoTech for like automotive, electrician, construction, cooking, etc etc, Then they're actually doing something good and useful for humanity, theres no fucking need for them to take four years of english, three years of science. three years of math, and three years of history. Its fucking useless for them, and it only forces the schools to dumb down their classes because those kids suck/don't care.

School should only be mandatory until 8th grade, the completion of middle school. You can't drop out of school until your sophomore year (age 16). How fucktarded is that? It keeps trouble makers in school. It keeps retards who want to go into the working world in school.

Theres no fucking reason for this bullshit, highschool shouldn't be mandatory.

>>2047173
You mad?

Pic related, it's the state the US is currently in.

>>2047177
>Algebra isn't necessary for the majority of real life occupations.

For fucks sake it is this conservative thinking paradigm that is the reason people are so stupid in this country. Knowing algebra is useful in day to day life no matter what you do. I would go as far as to say knowing algebra is the most universally important skill a person could have in our country right now.

>>2047177
Education isn't just to train people to be workers, it's also to give them enough knowledge to be voters. If you don't understand statistics and history you have NO BUSINESS VOTING. If we implemented some sort of a test to gain voting rights your system is acceptable.

>>2047177
So this prevalent way of thinking is the reason why people think I am a wizard for using basic algebra to solve problems. Well fuck son I am disappoint.

>>2047163
That is incorrect. "My face when" isn't even a dependent clause. It's an incomplete idea and needs additional information added to it in order to make sense. For example, "this was my face when the bomb exploded" is correct.

the more proper (though still technically incorrect) way to phrase the original post would be "MFI (my face if) that's true."

>>2047184
O rly? Examples please. And i don't mean simple algebra, i mean the stuff you learn in like algebra 2.

I sure as hell don't use it

>>2047188
MFI (my face if) doesn't exist and no one uses it.

>>2047016
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>>2047186
I actually really wanna do that too. Dumbasses shouldn't have the right to fuck up their country

>>2047177
>Well bob lets go buy the wood to build this shed. I already did the algebraic calculations to determine the exact amount of each piece we will need here is the list.

>WITCH! WITCH! BLACK MAGIC AND SORCERY!

>>2047196
>>2047187

I don't mean basic fucking algebra you learn in middle school.

Do i really need to go find an algebra 2 book and point out all the shit the majority of people don't need?

>>2047188
>my face when if
I still don't see what's so incorrect about this. It sounds intelligible and phonological.

>>2047194
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>>2047190
Your life would be a lot better if you did understand Algebra II concepts. I am willing to bet that you have come across more than a couple problems that you could have solved using quadratic analysis much quicker and effectively than whatever other backwoods method you used.

>>2047193
MFW technically doesn't exist either, it's unique to 4chan. But the key definition of language is an innate ability to form infinite new expressions.

>>2047200
Now you're just trolling. If you really want to know why, go speak to an english professor.

>>2047186
Actually, most highschools refuse to let people learn about politics. the vast majority of teachers leave that area alone entirely, so some kid doesn't go "MOMMEY THE TEACHER IMPLYED THAT REPUBLICANS ARE BAD!!! WE REPUBLICANS!! GO YELL AT SCHOOL!!"

>>2047204
I'm not trolling, it just isn't incorrect. It suits the sound of the sentence and the definitions of each word add together seamlessly, it just doesn't sound wrong.

>>2047199
When you go to get a loan for your house, if you have an understanding of exponential functions it would make it a lot easier to debate with the bank on the terms of the loan. Most of the time the bank just assumes you are retarded and tries to take advantage of you but, they are open to negotiate if you show them that you are knowledgeable enough to understand everything the loan will effect in the long run.

>>2047204
MFW (my face when) is an internet slang that has reached outside of 4chan to even IRL uses. It exists. MFI (my face if) hasn't and wasn't used until just a few minutes ago, it doesn't exist and won't exist outside this thread.

>>2047203
I just pull out a calculator yo, like i did fine in algebra in highschool, pretty much C's because i often didn't do homework. I know the shit, i just never fucking use it, and i don't know anyone else in a non-math-based-feild[engineering, sciences, etc] that actually it.

If its something i don't know i just use a super calculator like wolfram-alpha or something

>>2047204
my friends and I use mfw day-to-day, in iming or text messages or something ._.

>>2047206Actually, most highschools refuse to let people learn about politics.

You missed the point. You don't teach modern politics, you teach history, critical thinking, math (STATISTICS), and science (biology). You teach how science works and why people accept the scientific principles that they do.

Once those are established people have a much easier time identifying bullshit like religious and political dogma.

>>2047213
Well then people who like math will be rewarded by having a better loan. Little nitches are hardly an excuse to require everyone to learn something they won't often use

>>2047214
It can be used, therefore it exists. Just because it hasn't been uttered before and probably won't be again doesn't mean it has disappeared.

>>2047210
There needs to be an event after "when."

>>2047221
>scientific method

hello fucking middle school, not to mention 1/3 of americans openly dismiss the scientific method.

>>2047215
If you don't know how to model the problem algebraically then how can you use a calculator? Most people with the "I dont need no stinkin math to be a garbage man" mentality wouldn't know a logarithmic problem if the entire function appeared on the front cover of their bible.

I work in a school system in the Midwest. Many of the schools have decided that instead of teaching elementary schoolers how to solve math problems, they should teach them to guess at them because they won't need to solve them without a calculator.

Yes they are pretty much fucked when they get to polynomials.

>>2047190
Not him but consider that math basically deals with quantifying and solving problems.
It is an essential part of critical thinking.
The more math people know the better they are at solving complex problems.
And I say complex very lightly.

In basic algebra we learn to basically solve for x.
If you understand the implication, you can see that the student is learning to find a solution to a problem given a set of restrictions.
In higher level algebra, we start addressing more complex problems where there may be multiple solutions that work or multiple components to a workable solution.

Geometry goes on to solve real world problems using the concepts established in Algebra. Trigonometry continues in complexity.
Calculus further addresses problems that may not be as easy to quantify as basic problems addressed in Algebra where the solutions may be varied and approximate. IE- there is no 100% right answer, but you can get close enough for practical purposes.

The point is, these problem solving skills take the intuition and guess work out of every day problems. They allow us to identify archetypes for problems, quantify the components, exclude irrelevant details, and find a solution that we know is right.
To say that math is not useful in everyday life is to say that you do not need to solve problems or you would rather guess and fail your way to a correct answer when you do.

>>2047224
>There needs to be an event after "when."
By that logic "When the Mets get here" is incorrect because "the" or "Mets" aren't events.

>>2047227
You're confused. I don't have that mentality. I didn't mind math in highschool. I understand how fucking important it is for the world around us.

I'm just saying that the way we're currently teaching people in america, we don't need it.

Teach everything thats important for everyone in middle school, then leave the more abstract and complicated (comparing it to the very easy stuff, i know highschool math isn't abstract nor complicated), for people who might actually use it, and might actually like it.

I'm just sayin'

>>2047226hello fucking middle school, not to mention 1/3 of americans openly dismiss the scientific method.

Part of the problem is that teachers themselves don't understand the scientific method at the middleschool level. The solution is not to just say "oh well we may as well just let people be stupid".

captcha: hypothesis adenorma

>>2047215
I don't know anyone who studies history or analyzes literature or speaks French. Guess we should just stop schooling all-together.

>>2047232

the Mets are the subject

get here is the event

>>2047236
That totally is the solution yo. Then just have a test to gain voting rights, and america is on the right path.

trust me, i'm a lawyer

>>2047222
OMFG!!!!! Want to see my rage face?

Do you even know WHY we just had a financial meltdown in the US that carried the world over?!?

It is because of people like you who did not know what kind of loan they were getting, what the chances of that loan payment exploding was, or even what an adjustable rate loan was.
THIS IS WHY YOU NEED MATH.
/rage

>>2047222
That would have been a rational argument before our currently level of technological advancement. The truth is our currently state of technology is so prevalent in almost everyone's life that we are seeing a much bigger divide between "R U A WIZARD?" and "Average Intelligence" than ever before. It is like the look you see on people's faces when you fix a problem on a computer. They think even the simplest concepts are advanced because they are uneducated.

>>2047232
"the Mets get here" is the event. It is a dependent clause that becomes an independent clause with "when" added to it.

>>2047240
>>2047241
Then have the regular math classes in highschool be PRACTICAL MATHEMATICS.

>>2047242
But "the" isn't, so by your logic "when Mets get here" is grammatically correct, or "when get here" is too.

Also,
>implying "if that's true" isn't an event

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYqXlRQrBN4

This video pretty much sums up everyone in this thread talking about the lack of need for people to learn basic mathematics.

>>2047245
> piratical math

I'mokaywiththis.jpg

indifferent

I'm not from US.

>>2047240

all of which could be solved using simple Algebra

face it brah, Algebra II and beyond is pointless bullshit

>>2047248
god damn it spell check.

practical***

>>2047241
This is why I am in favor of a caste system divided by education and intelligence. People who stop with a highschool diploma will not be permitted to use technology available to people with a college degree. Degrees will be further segmented by level (masters, doctorate, etc.)

This will ensure that idiots do not have access to machines they do not understand, and destroy something in the process.

>>2047256
Enjoy your brave new world, and ultimate demise.

I took algebra 1 in 7th grade, you be lying, it's impossible... impossible ;(

glad I didn't live where you live, I wouldn't have had math through all of highschool. algebra 2->trig->AP calc->AP statistics

>>2047256

because Caste systems work so fucking well when the divide is between the "haves" and the "have nots"

>>2047247
Thats a job where he needs math. He should have taken math.

>>2047241t is like the look you see on people's faces when you fix a problem on a computer. They think even the simplest concepts are advanced because they are uneducated.

Funny story... I was getting a motorcycle loan with my friend when I wanted to know how much total I'd be losing to interest with different term lengths. My friend and the guy at the dealership both had Bachelors in Finance, both looked at me like I was a wizard for breaking out A=Pe^rt. I raged a little and asked them why their degree is so useless.

>People don't need to learn math for their day to day existence.

And people wonder why the Jews own this country right now.

Jews = Good at Math
Jews = Most of the Wealth in the country.

Can you do those simple mathematics you fucking retard?

>>2047261

Especially when the "haves" average 1.2 children and the "have nots" average 6. Oh that's going to be sustainable...

>>2047266
>complaining about the jews
>implying your opinion is valid
> imping i'm not being trolled right now

>>2047266

I think so.....

alright guys: How do we exterminate the Jews?

>>2047272
I thought he wanted us to seduce the jews....

> This video pretty much sums up everyone in this thread talking about the lack of need for people to learn basic mathematics.

Are you fucking serious?!

>>2047280
>mfw kinetic energy

>>2047247

Oh god I'm from Missoui and I raged.

>>2047246
Are you really this dumb? Ideas can be represented by more than just one word. They usually are. Have you never taken a basic english class? Do you know what a clause it? How about a prepositional phrase?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C7FH7El35w#

Go to 33:57

Enjoy

>>2047253
No, No, and No.
The reason you think this is due to your lack of knowledge.
Try calculating compound interest over a 30 year loan is changes in rate every 5 years or the statistical probability of a change in a specific market area that the adjustable rate loan a bank is trying to give you is based on using only basic algebra.
I can tell you now, you need complex problem solving skills to even have a valid intuition about the usefulness of such a loan.

On top of that, what would your background tell you is the best way to buy a home?
Do you even know the long term impact of taking a loan versus saving the money?
Or do you take for granted that a loan is always a good way to buy a home?

>>2047296
Amazing....

It's not really a bad thing OP, most of the people who go through high school don't use anything above algebra if they even use algebra at all.

Also beyond that an even larger 'most' don't even understand algebra (either by their own ineptitude, refusal to learn it, or the incompetence of their teachers/curriculum) so it is largely a waste of resources.

I'd much rather see them crack down on getting people to understand basic math than to have them taking calculus. (though I know that won't happen either)

>>2047303

Studies show the best predictor for how well people do in college level science classes is the amount of math they took in highschool. Stupid people are going to fail either way, giving intelligent people a chance to excel should be a high priority for our education system.

>>2047303
Yea I approve of this idea too. I will still be around taking advantage of all these retards with my superior math knowledge. Fuck it will be so easy to get a job when the interviewer is impressed that I am able to model simple problems algebraically while the other candidates claim "I never learned about the letters in der math".

Mine didn't cancel any classes, but they changed graduation requirements.

We now only have to get through Trigonometry to graduate.

>>2047296
Looks like somebody dropped out of COMM101.

That class made public speaking easy for me.

>>2047303
Algebra IS basic math. Once you learn basic arithmetic algebra is the next step. Everyone just thinks there is this huge divide between basic arithmetic and algebra because schools spend 3 years trying to abstract algebra into dancing bears before they are ready to hit children with equations when in actuality the kids have been learning algebra the entire time just with a layer of cutsie abstraction on top of it.

>>2047303
>>2047319
Watch the videos and re-read the thread. This has been addressed.
It is necessary, we need to improve this area of understanding.
If you disagree, provide evidence to the contrary not just anecdotal references and statement of opinion.

Maybe if candy dispensers were placed in the big cities that gave out free candy for solving math problems, people would be more likely to learn math. Because everybody likes candy.

>>2047328
What are you going on about?

>>2047335

At least it'd get people that are good at math outside.

>>2047177
In Ohio you can't drop out until you're 18.

You can't get a GED until you're 19.

I know this due to my high school fucking me in the ass and taking credits away from me arbitrarily.

>>2047335
Obviously math based MMORPGs are the next step. You get gold and EXP for solving math problems. The harder more powerful monsters are advanced calculus problems that require teams of people to solve. Items are in the form of algebraic and calculus identities. Grinding would be solving algebra and calculus problems repeatedly. Once you hit a certain level you would need to move on to harder problems to gain exp.

>>2047335
I'd give that a week before an enterprising middle schooler comes along and solves all the problems in several machines then sells the answer sheets online.
5 bucks for unlimited candy in any city!

>>2047342
Do you have to repeat your Senior year until you're 18?

>>2047343
again, solve the problems -> sell the answers.
Alternatively, solve the problems lots of times and collect answer sets.
Higher Chinese rice farmers to farm gold and powerlevel from given answer sheets.

>>2047343
>Alright guys we need to get ready for our N=NP proof raid this weekend. Everyone should grind to level 35 before this weekend. We are going to need at least 6 differential equation mastery classes for this so if anyone is close to level 35 on that class they should grind it out.

>>2047339
His delivery is terrible. He stops mid-sentence and starts onto a new idea, his speaking is jumbled and fast. If he were being graded on his speech, the professor would've told him to sit down, practice some more, and try again tomorrow.

>>2047351
I would play the fuck out of that.

And you know, you just KNOW that some jerkass dev is going to include occam's razor as a goddamn dagger.

>>2047342You can't get a GED until you're 19.

That's just criminal. At the moment the best education path for people that aren't retarded is to start college as early as possible.

>>2047351
There is always going to be the underpowered class in any MMORPG and we KNOW it would be probability for this game.

>FUCK john quit leveling probability and level a useful class for once.

>>2047351
>>2047343

Someone fund this shit.

I think we should continue on the path of getting rid of higher math classes in highschool and teaching "fuzzy" math like they do in crunchy seattle and continue with the slide to american anti-intellectualism.... then all the other countries like taiwan can beat us out in the amount of kids in higher level math classes some more

>>2047186
>claim to be knowledgeable
>believes voting isn't a farce

Lemme guess you're a godfag too right?

>>2047228
>mfw I'm a straight A high school graduate and I have no idea what a polynomial is

>>2047352
Yea but, the great thing about the neo-cortex is it finishes the thought for you whether you hear it or not. You don't need to hear the word to predict what comes at the end of this

>>2047370
Looks like Taiwain is the place to go to learn math.

>>2047352
He is talking to professors from every department about his free online school he created. He isn't a student and has graduated from a college already and apparently learned enough to teach several different subjects in an entire online school.

>mfw Mississippi right down there with Thailand.

>>2046981
If at least they were teaching kids statistics, it woundn't be so bad.
Stats applies to every day life whereas algebra is only useful in sciences in which, sadly, most kids have no interests...

>>2047388
Ok, but he still sucks at speaking.

>>2047370
more bad news

>>2047388
>he teaches an entire school
except english

And this is why China and India are going to dominate America as superpowers in a few years. Really, America? REALLY?!

>>2047398
"my bible doesn't say shit bout none math I dont need it"

>>2047370
Now weight that against all countries who only test their top 10%.
The US tests across the board so we are bound to show low averages in comparisons like that.

>>2047405
>Implying Science couldn't kick the shit out of English in a fight.

I wild Shakespeare appeared!
Science uses Gamma Ray Bombardment....
It's Super Effective!
You defeat the wild Shakespeare!

>>2047398
>Alaska is 11-20

wut?

>>2047424
they already do buddy

>>2047316
Except that a mass of people failing is why we have increasingly easy school years.

At one time I heard a school district was going to cap the lowest possible grade for anything at 50% even if you missed 99% of the questions.

Also does that study reflect quantity of math or mastery of math, getting through high school is really only a matter of memorization. You can be a straight A student and have no fucking idea how to apply that knowledge, as I think a few people have mentioned now.

>>2047459
I once had a high school teacher tell the class "Your real wisdom and knowledge won't begin until you throw out everything you are learning in high school and work your way up from the ground again with absolute understanding of every minuscule detail involved in everything you learn.

He was fired the next year apparently for "Deviating from the curriculum".

>>2047349
I was talking about the age to drop out, not entirely sure about early graduation as the same dickery that took my credits also wasted so much of my time. Seriously it took 2 months for a simple project to be graded and I wasn't allowed to move on to the next class until it was done.

>>2047475
Oh god, he sounds like the teacher I had in high school. He was a badass history teacher who really stuck to old school grading policies. He even taught our vice-principal. When pussy kids couldn't handle the reading and writing assignments he gave for homework and their parents complained, he could fucking stare them down. You actually had to work to maintain an A because he was a grammar nazi and hated poor quality shit. Also, only 15% of your grade was homework; the rest was presentations, tests, and essays. I wish there are more teachers like him who don't take shit from anyone and actually cause you to learn something memorable.

>>2047459
i got a history test back once, and after answering one question of 20, i got a 45.

>>2047499
He would probably get fired in today's "No child left behind" world.

How about them GRE tests? You're allowed to skip questions, and even then only 1/4 of your wrong answers count against you.

I bet grad schools would be a lot less competitive if the GRE was an actual test instead of a green light.

>>2047554
>only 1/4 of your wrong answers count against you.

You have got to be shitting me.

>>2047529
Nah, I visited my old high school and he's still there teaching. I guess it's because he's ridiculously strict, so just a phone call home won't suffice. He will actually schedule a meeting between the student and their parents to discuss every last detail. Also, he's our school's success story because despite growing up as an obese kid (he's buff and alpha as fuck now) from a single mother with three kids in Chicago, he pulled himself together and got into Northwestern. He originally felt that he probably would've been just a garbageman because he was so rebellious that teachers hated him, but I guess that's why the punk students admire him enough to maintain a C.

>>2047561
Nope. It's the truth.

It's mostly because the GRE is a general test given to everyone from math majors to art majors, so they had to dumb it down. I think it would've been better for them to develop different tests for each field, but whatever. They do have the GRE Subject tests, but they carried over the same stupid grading system.

>>2047371
>believes voting isn't a farce

It wouldn't be if we didn't let retards vote.


>mfw YOU'RE a straight A high school graduate and I have no idea what a polynomial is

Hint: it's a nuclear rageface

>>2047598
>my face when he thinks the voters are the problem

While you're somewhat correct, you're not entirely correct. Voting uses predetermined, preselected candidates and only those candidates will be voted into office. That being the case if you control which candidates are on the ballot you have power over and above any voter pool of any intellect.

The only thing a reasonably intellectual person can do when given two bad choices is to make it clear that neither choice is acceptable. Though that will not keep one of the bad choices from running amok for the duration of their term.

My old high school killed it's CS department. It was only one teacher but she was better than nothing. Now my brother will never learn the ways of computer ninja.

>>2047598
Also I consulted wikipedia, I actually do know what it is I just never encountered that word anywhere from elementary to high school is what I'm saying.

>>2047621
Your CS department probably sucked. He can self-teach if he is really interested. CS is one of those fields where you can get very far just by reading shit on the Internet.

LOOOOOOL america

why they cancel it?? lack of interest?

even a fucking undergrad can teach Algebra,

Also im from Mexico, and in my high school curriculum i get

Algebra I II
Geometry
Trigonometry
Differential Calculus
Integral Calculus

And in Physics and Chem

Kinematics
Thermodynamics
Electromagnetism
Fluid Mechanics.
Organic Chemistry
Inorganic Chemistry

All this courses are Mandatory, everyone have to take them

Im in graduate school at the US, and you Americans are a fucking joke in math. Asians are not good at it, they are average compared to the rest of the world.

>>2047807
Whatever, get back to mowing my lawn, spic.

>>2047807
I took all of that in middle school, son.

the problem is to give choices to fucking retarded high school kids.

they may have some freedom of choice, but just for a very few courses.

the fact that you can go through high school with barely any math education is fucking scary.

>>2047807
Im from Mexico too, and this is true, but only for private high schools. They are not as expensive as american private high schools, 1000USD a month for getting a level of education as good as Scandinavian System, and its very easy to get a scholarship. Its also mandatory in most private high schools to be proficient in a 2nd Language (usually English), but a lot of private elementary and middle schools, teach almost all their curriculum in english anyway. so when they get to high school, you need to be proficient in a 3rd language. Usually Chinese or German.
Also, its common that the teachers are from the US or europe. and the language teachers are native speakers.
Also, they offer you the option to study 1 year overseas in a certified high school. not in shittyvile UTAH

why are you guys scared of private education?
If it wasnt for that Mexico, would be fucked, and it isnt even expensive.

Mechanical Engineering year 1:

FIRST SEMESTER
Algebra
Analytic geometry
Culture and Communication
Differential calculus
Computing for Engineers


SECOND SEMESTER
Linear Algebra
Static
Engineering Costs and Economic
Integral Calculus
Contemporary American Literature
are you jelly, /sci/? This is in a public college (UNAM) In Mexico.

>>2048088
>>2047807

No one gives a fuck. Mexico has NEVER done anything notable ever in the history of all humanity. There isn't a single notable Mexican scientist who will ever be recognized by the majority of society. Your country is a fucking shit hole. Your education is obviously a shit hole too. There is a reason why everyone in your country is trying to get across the boarder and it sure as fuck isn't because they are afraid of your advanced educational system.

>>2047889
>If it wasnt for that Mexico, would be fucked

Last time I checked Mexico WAS fucked. You aren't even out of 3rd world status....

>>2048088
Calculus I and II HOLY CRAP. fucking retard

>>2048119

That hasn't exactly have to do with education. There are notable scientists, and they all do indeed go away, as well as do people that are notable on other areas. But guess what, they go to Europe because the government doesn't even have enough work for these people. People who go to Northamerica go only seeking work, not seeking education.
Learn your facts you stupid gringo.

>>2048133
The notable subject here to get beyond is ALGEBRA.

God why are you all so retarded?

senior year here you usually have pre calc or algebra 2
if you are super smark and took algrebra 2 in sophmore year you take reg calc

>>2048171
In Arizona, you take Algebra 2 freshman year.

>SECOND SEMESTER
>Static
awesome

>>2048126
what ever

>>2048119


LOL Henry Eyring


seriously bro, you dont know shit about shit, so shut the fuck up.


Mexico has a major amount of mathematical physics (applied physics, not theoretical astrophysics, which is the most utterly worthless area of study known to mankind)...

also a major amount of research and industrial organic chemistry.


in the 1960s-1980s, many larger chemical companies began building facilities in mexico to capitalize on developments in the field of natural product chemistry (the isolation and use of chemicals obtained from natural sources).


one of the main, and most well known, examples was the discovery that certain species of Yams can be used as a natural source of Steroid precursors.


many large facilities were built by a few different companies to extract, refine, and utilize these precursors for the synthesis of steroidal derivatives.


this industrial development directly lead to major government and private investment in research universities in mexico.


currently mexico's is mostly known for its polymer and organic chemistry research

This prob stems from the no child left behind

lowering standards for pot heads that don't wanna be there anyways
also costs money

Im Mexican and I came to the US when I was ten. It pissed me off when I went back and talked to my friends. They were taking Geometry and Algebra in 6th grade, I think. I was stuck in "Math" class for two years learning how to underline key words. I didnt get to have algebra till 9th grade.

It really pisses me off that the US has an education that is worse than MEXICO. Most of my friends were herding goats for God's sake. WTF HOW ... I .. FUCK!!!

DDDUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRR
NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND
DDUUUURRRRRRR LETS MAKE SCHOOL EASIER AND EXPECT AMERICA TO STILL LRN

DURRRRRR
STILL DROPPIN OUT
HUUURRRRRRRRRRR

>>2048211
i think i can recall learning basic algebra and geometry in 6th grade, and i lived in fucking kentucky.

At least we still have the best universities.

>>2048233
>>2048233
That Americans cant get into cus theyre too damns stupid.

>>2048208
>lowering standards for pot heads

You mean niggers.

>>2048244
all niggers=potheads
so it includes whigger, niggers, and most beaners

>>2047022
so what you're saying is become homosexual?

>>2047554
>>2047561
>>2047586
What you are raging about is just a mechanism to keep people from improving their score over skipping a question by random guessing.

>>2048284
yes

>>2048220
>>2048119

im talking about algebraic geometry and trigonometry you stupid fuck

Also, im not talking about public education.. that varies a lot depending were you live.

as a rule of thumb almost all private elementary and high schools have higher standards compared to public. i attend a private high school that is at the same level as high schools in Germany or Nordic Countries.