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2037798 No.2037798 [Reply] [Original]

bad news for evolutionists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPJoePcbEaI

explain to me what evolution is again? :D

God 1
Evolutionists 0

>> No.2037806

LOL.

Hovind.

>> No.2037812

>>2037806
wut

>> No.2037819
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2037819

>>2037798
>Underage faggot think he knows shit about evolution

LMAO, Troll harder Nigger

>> No.2037826

>>2037812

Kent Hovind.

Creationism's poster boy. Ironically he looks like a fucking chimp.

Like all great Evangelists, the guy's now doing prison time for all sorts of tax fraud.

>> No.2037828

>>2037819
what's to know about evolution it's all garbage and the only counter you have to that argument is HUUUUUUUUR TROLL HUUR

he just uprooted your entire theory.

fucking uprooted it.

uprooted.

like the WEED it is the TARE it is.

>> No.2037827
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>> No.2037832

>>2037826
and what does his tax fraud have to do with his argument, is this about his social status thus evolution = true?

is it about his argument is valid thus evolution = false?

>> No.2037833

>>2037827

Don't think it's a troll, guys. I think we're being spammed by a christfag who actually believes this stuff.

>> No.2037835

>>2037832

You don't understand what the guy being a cheat and a fraud and a crook does to his credibility?

>> No.2037837

>>2037833
natural selection =/= evolution.

>> No.2037841

>>2037837

I never said that natural selection = evolution.

Neither does anybody else. Natural selection is the mechanism by which evolution progresses.

>> No.2037845

>>2037835
let me confirm this is how you think:

so even though his argument is valid, you determine the validity of evolution based on his social status.

is this what you're saying?

is it?

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>>2037832

>Thousdand of scientifc papers in support of evolution, each represting a unique experiment.

>Evolution is universally accepted for its abibility to explain, as well as predict.

>No papers against evolution

>Care what some little uneducated prick on youtube thinks......LMAO

>> No.2037853

no no no your all wrong.

until we do research into the theory of spontaneous generation, medicine will never progress.

>> No.2037854
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2037854

>>2037841
>Natural selection is the mechanism by which evolution progresses.

but that's wrong you fucking idiot :/

and I JUST said that, in fact you responded to it with that exact post.

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2037856

>>2037798
video is fail

It is obvious he has no idea wtf he is talking about.

>> No.2037862

>>2037854

lol/10.

>> No.2037864

>>2037856
he isn't wrong.

he is right.

by saying natural selection is the mechanism behind evolution is saying evolution isn't real

why are people so fucking retarded not to fucking see this.

holy flying fuck.

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>>2037845
>so even though his argument is valid

His argument is not valid, it is nonsensical.

>> No.2037873

>>2037866
you have to be a jew.

at this point I know you can't be this stupid so I know you're just a wolf in sheep's clothing lying.

>> No.2037872

>>2037845

I'm saying that Creationists claim that Evolution is wrong because the Bible says so.

Yet they ignore the parts of the Bible that says not to be thieves and liars.

>> No.2037874

>>2037872
I agree with you.

but since evolutionists have the social upper ground and are the loudest voice, we HAVE to address them.

>> No.2037875

>>2037864

quantum mechanics is the mechanism behind chemical reactions.

because of a few physical laws we get the complex patterns of chemical reactions.

evolution is driven by natural selection.

because of the process of survival of the fittest (natural selection) we get evolution of species.

>> No.2037876

>>2037854

engine =/= car

the engine is the mechanism by which the car has the power to move

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2037878

>>2037798
>Thousdand of scientifc papers in support of evolution, each represting a unique experiment.

>Evolution is universally accepted for its abibility to explain, as well as predict.

>No papers against evolution

>Care what some little uneducated prick on youtube thinks......LMAO

>> No.2037884

>>2037874

You're perfectly welcome to address "evolutionists." (that's kind of like saying gravityists or mathists).

You're not welcome to be liars and cheats. And Creationists are liars and cheats.

>> No.2037887

>>2037876
but natural selection could never be the engine of the evolution car, do you see what I"m saying here?

it could never be it.

Ever, in fact the two don't even match up, the two are totally different.

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2037891

>>2037798
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>> No.2037892

>>2037884
>And Creationists are liars and cheats.

the only other alternative is creationism

we're here so that means we got here some how.

>> No.2037897

>>2037891
stop poisoning my thread.

>> No.2037900

>>2037891

How do you tell a troll from a real creationist?

I say, if the guy puts more effort into his posts than the responders, then he is ipso facto a creationist. And if he is really trying to troll, then he is in fact only trolling himself.

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2037902

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>> No.2037908

>>2037892

The only alternative to evolution is creationism. Yes.

The problem is that it's not a valid alternative.

It's a load of shit. The alternative to the germ theory of disease is the demon possession theory of disease. That does not mean that demon possession is a valid theory.

>> No.2037909

>>2037887

the engine looks nothing like the car. the process of burning fuel has nothing to do with going forward. how can the 2 possibly be related!?!?!

they aren't. lets accept that the car just goes forward somehow. while we are at it, lets call the thing pushing the car "god."

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2037911

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>> No.2037920 [DELETED] 

evolutionists aren't looking for our origins, they only care about what is socially acceptable, they are scum all of them, because its evolution is a complete contradiction and its so obvious too, I'm done arguing.

you can't debate subhuamnity.

looks like evolutionists should "evolve" a little bit more.

maybe if you mix with a more intelligent species i..e natural selection your offspring will "evolve" be more intelligent.

/thread

I'm out

>> No.2037931

MOAR TROLLS
NEED MOAR TROLLS

>> No.2037927

>>2037887

I'm not comparing evolution to a car

I'm saying that a mechanism of a thing does not mean that the mechanism is the thing.

>> No.2037926

evolutionists aren't looking for our origins, they only care about what is socially acceptable, they are scum all of them, because evolution is a lie, and complete contradiction and its so obvious too, I'm done arguing.

you can't debate war-like subhuamnity.

looks like evolutionists should "evolve" a little bit more.

maybe if you mix with a more intelligent species i..e natural selection your offspring will "evolve" be more intelligent.

/thread

I'm out

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>>2037926
NICE TROLLING BUDDY!

>> No.2037952

>>2037927
again, for the 4th or 5th time now, natural selection is not the engine of evolution

again, for the 4th or 5th time now, natural selection is not the engine of evolution

again, for the 4th or 5th time now, natural selection is not the engine of evolution

again, for the 4th or 5th time now, natural selection is not the engine of evolution

again, for the 4th or 5th time now, natural selection is not the engine of evolution

again, for the 4th or 5th time now, natural selection is not the engine of evolution

again, for the 4th or 5th time now, natural selection is not the engine of evolution
again, for the 4th or 5th time now, natural selection is not the engine of evolution

>> No.2037965

This is a very clever troll because in a way that faggot from the video is right. Natural selection is not evolution, it's just one of the mechanisms that drives evolution.

But then again I don't know what he's driving at. No reasonable person would claim that evolution = natural selection.

This is a straw man... but not in his favour... I don't really get it.

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2037966

>>2037952
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>> No.2037967

>>2037952

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection

>It is a key mechanism of evolution.

>> No.2037969

>>2037927
>I'm not comparing evolution to a car

yes you were.

>> No.2037972

>>2037967
stupid.

is what you are.

>> No.2037975

>>2037952

Yes, it is.

All things have evolved from a common ancestor. Why? Mutation, variation, natural selection, propagation.

>> No.2037983

>>2037975
>natural selection

no.

>Mutation

again, no.

stop parroting you machine.

>> No.2037988

>>2037983

What the fuck is your problem? This isn't even a good troll.

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2037995

>>2037983

>> No.2038000

>>2037983

>no

yes

>stop parroting the machine

Stop believing the Bible

>> No.2038005

evolution is just an illogical opposing religion.

that's what I've learned so far.

it's my fault for trying to debate imbeciles.

it's my fault really, I should have known better than this.

leaving this thread now

>> No.2038015

>>2038005

Not true. Evolution has evidence. Religion does not.

Pussy.

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2038020

>>2038005
It this your first troll?

>> No.2038023

Any change in allele frequencies, whether driven by genetic drift, the founder effect, or natural selection, is considered evolution.

Mutations such as increases in ploidy or duplication of hox genes are also considered evolution.

The video is right that natural selection only acts on present alleles, but that is still considered evolution.

>> No.2038024

>>2038000
>>2038000
>Stop believing the Bible

has not one FUCKING thing to do with the debate of the theory of evolution.

not one FUCKING thing.

>> No.2038028

>>2038015
>Not true. Evolution has evidence
troll

>> No.2038030

>>2038024
>Theory of Evolution
>up for debate
LOL

>> No.2038040

>>2038028

Fossil record, dude.

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2038068

>>2038028
Looks like you need to educate yourself little guy. These might help.

Carroll, S. (2005). Endless Forms Most Beautiful. New York: W.W. Norton. ISBN 0-393-06016-0.

Charlesworth, C.B. and Charlesworth, D. (2003). Evolution. Oxfordshire: Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-192-80251-8.

Dawkins, R. (2006). The Selfish Gene: 30th Anniversary Edition. Oxford University Press. ISBN 0199291152.

Gould, S.J. (1989). Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History. New York: W.W. Norton. ISBN 0-393-30700-X.

Jones, S. (2001). Almost Like a Whale: The Origin of Species Updated. (American title: Darwin's Ghost). New York: Ballantine Books. ISBN 0-345-42277-5.

Mader, Sylvia S. (2007). Biology. Murray P. Pendarvis (9th ed.). McGraw Hill. ISBN 9780073258393.

Maynard Smith, J. (1993). The Theory of Evolution: Canto Edition. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0-521-45128-0.

Pallen, M.J. (2009). The Rough Guide to Evolution. Rough Guides. ISBN 978-1-85828-946-5.

Smith, C.B. and Sullivan, C. (2007). The Top 10 Myths about Evolution. Prometheus Books. ISBN 978-1-59102-479-8.

>> No.2038070

>>2038040
how does that contradict creationism

>> No.2038081

>>2038068
stupid or troll?

>> No.2038089

>>2038070

According to creationism, all life was created in its current form 6,000 years ago.

Fossil record shows organisms living 3+ billion years ago. And not in its current form.

>> No.2038092

faggotry levels in this thread are off the fucking charts

>> No.2038097

>>2038089
>>2038068

Dude(s?), stop. He's trolling, badly. Don't feed the trolls.

>> No.2038104 [DELETED] 

>>2038089
last time I checked Creationism was just Creationism.

with no indefinite creation date or period.

>> No.2038108

>>2038089
last time I checked Creationism was just Creationism.

with no definite creation date or period.

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>> No.2038121

Evolution is NOT a THEORY. Its a fact, OP, you dumb shit.

And yes Natural Selection is one aspect responsible for evolution. Mutation IS another factor.

What proof have you on the contrary?

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2038123

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