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2029924 No.2029924 [Reply] [Original]

>>Mfw I realized that the first undersea colony is being built by a dude with the last name "Chamberland". A land....of chambers, you might say.

>> No.2029934

lmfao

1/10 i laughed

>> No.2029944
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You got me

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..................

>> No.2029951

I wonder how common that is. I remember hearing a list of examples of scientists whose last names were eerily accurate predictors of what they went on to accomplish.

>> No.2029945

stupid and boring idea...

>> No.2029954
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>mfw the guy who landed on the moon was called armstrong and also had strong arms

>> No.2029957

can i get sauce on this

i wonder how he is going to manage a profit of this

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>>2029945

>>stupid and boring idea...

I'm wishing cancer upon you as hard as I can.

>> No.2029971

My last name translates to low. And I'm pretty fucking short.
Amazing, I know.

>> No.2029972

>>2029963
Dude I was wishing AIDS upon him but that's a much better idea since we won't cure cancer this century.

>> No.2029976

>>2029951
sauce?

>> No.2029980

>I wonder how common that is. I remember hearing a list of examples of scientists whose last names were eerily accurate predictors of what they went on to accomplish.

Albert EinSTEIN was a jew

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>>2029957

>>can i get sauce on this

http://www.underseacolony.com/

If he finally gets his webcams working again you can actually watch his hired help building the first two pods.

>>i wonder how he is going to manage a profit of this

Well he's apparently figured out some very cheap way to get oxygen from sea water and he's licensing it to scuba companies for funding. So far he's bought two surface support vessels (for hauling colony modules out and sinking them) and an impressive deep sea submarine which doubles as a temporary habitat, pictured at left.

He won't hint publically at what this innovation is but I have my suspicions it's something to do with using very thin silicone membranes as a sort of artificial gill. It was tried in the 70s and worked well enough, but required about a square yard to support one person. But with modern nanomaterials I suppose it's possible that size could be reduced.

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Here's the prototype he built for NASA in 1998. It's innovative in that it uses an angular kevlar hull, instead of a steel cylinder like basically every undersea habitat before it. This greatly reduces costs, allows the structure to flex slightly to accommodate changes in pressure where a cylinder would fracture, and it permits shapes other than cylinders/spheres.

The colony modules use the same basic design, but much bigger, about the size of a mobile home.

>> No.2030024

What is the point of living underwater

I get it for like science stuff but why would normal people want to live there.

>> No.2030026

It's true, I have a friend whose last name is gaylord and he grew up to be the head of his university's engineering department

>> No.2030036

>>2030024
Oceans cover the majority of the planet. If we can put people underwater it'l help overcrowding. Same thing with the giantastic "freedom ship"s that the one cruise ship company is making, that are like a mile long

>> No.2030049

>>2030024
Why would people want to migrate to America, or Australia, from Europe?

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>>If we can put people underwater it'l help overcrowding.

As much as I love the idea I don't buy this. Unless Chamberland's innovation really is some cheap way to produce air underwater, it will remain more economical to build "seasteads" (pictured) than to house people below the surface.

Not that I don't have some confidence in the guy, I just won't get excited over the prospect until I know what he's got up his sleeve. It must be pretty compelling to raise that kind of funding.

>> No.2030061

>>2030054
>implying its cheaper to build giant ass platforms attached to the ground, than floating platforms that can leave whenever hurricane season comes around

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>>2029924
>>2029924
>>2029924
>>2029924
>>2029924

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>>2030061

Either way. I'm open to floating platforms too. but until there's an efficient way to get air from sea water, it'll be cheaper to live above water than below it.

Once we have that technology however, it'll use less materials to simply build underwater than to construct stationary seasteads or even floating platforms capable of holding up cities. The economics of undersea living only start to make sense when you have a pressing need to create more livable space (i.e. massive inland flooding) and you have a way to eliminate or greatly reduce the energy cost of keeping the air fresh.

Pic: Cousetau chilling with his bitch and some bros in Conshelf 2, back in the 60s.

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Btw, here's a documentary on the guy:

http://www.vbs.tv/watch/motherboard/the-aquatic-life-of-dennis-chamberland

Near the end he's a smug, coy motherfucker about whatever his new technology is. But he make a good case for what he's doing.

Pic related: What he pictures while fapping

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FUCK YEAH.

>> No.2030144

>>2030099


"This biggest obstacle to living undersea is the technology of carbon dioxide removal"

"What will you do differently"

"If I told you that I would lose my patent, but yes, we're working on it"

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF....My money is on some kind of solid chemical reactant.

>> No.2030149

>>2030123
>mfw people will continue to do advanced biotech research in this sort of thing after it has been globally banned due to hueg pandemic disaster and suddenly, choosing the impossible, choosing the impossible everywhere.

>> No.2030154

>>2030149
Why would it ever be banned? Aside from the joke.

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>>2030149

Wouldn't be surprised if China did something like that. They're getting into deep sea mining, and being dickheads, they recently cut off our supply of rare earth minerals that we need for electric cars, wind turbines, solar panels and so on.

The sea floor is rich in those minerals. Apparently they intend to maintain their monopoly on them.

>> No.2031194

Bumpifications.

>> No.2031201

>>2030154
Democracy is mob rule and the mob thinks biotechnology = OH SHIT ZOMBIES EVERYWHERE WE PLAYED GOD ONE TOO MANY TIMES OH FUCK I'M DYING OF ALL OF THESE PANDEMICS

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>>2031201

I think the public will start to warm up to GM foods when they can no longer afford staple foods.

However I'm reading some good books on vertical farms lately that lead me to suspect we'll be able to feed the first world nations for some time yet even if mass retardation leads to a ban on GM crops/livestock. Which is a shame. It's like marrow/skin stem cell cultures. Not as versatile or effective but because a large portion of the population believes that we produce embyros en masse specifically to harvest stem cells and cannot be convinced that we harvest said stem cells from the embryos discarded from fertility clinics....

Hold on....blood pressure.....need a break.....

Anyways, nobody's gonna starve. Even the people who really ought to. Malthusians will be left with blue balls once again like the rest of the doomsayers because they never account for people actually taking action to avert disaster rather than sitting around with their thumbs up their asses waiting to die, which is apparently what people do on planet Malthus.

>> No.2031279

>>2031258
>they never account for people actually taking action to avert disaster rather than sitting around with their thumbs up their asses waiting to die, which is apparently what people do on planet Malthus.

Exactly fucking this. Gog damn peakoil doomers need to chill their shit.

>> No.2031290

>>2031201
They're right. Unchecked expansion of any agenda has historically proven disastrous. I know American education sucks but has it gotten so bad we forgot how people behaved just two years ago?

>> No.2031341

Bumping this, the first page is all homework and Jeebus.

>> No.2031348

>>2031279

>>Exactly fucking this.

However this does require people to actually be proactive and seek out solutions. We're finally making the whole electric car thing happen on the third try, and if we're honest it's only because we finally have reached peak oil and the energy companies need something to sell us when we can't afford to fill the tank anymore.

That's probably our biggest failing as a species. We take the path of least resistance, every time. We'll sit around wallowing in our own shit until things get so bad that we sigh, mutter, bitch, moan, and finally get off our asses to fix it.

Last minute solutions often disappoint, as an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, but in the past the big issues we've faced have been quickly reversible once we finally did the right thing.

>> No.2031355

So we're finally getting our EVs, our wind turbines, our solar farms and so on. But for all that, we need rare earth minerals. Guess who has 95% of the rare earth mineral market cornered? Guess who has been frantically building EVs, wind turbines, solar farms and all the shit we ought to be building but are doing so at a much slower pace? Guess who just cut off export of rare earth minerals to the US? Fucking China. And they're mining the sea floor to do it.

It's like they're doing all the shit we should've been doing for decades now, but we didn't have the foresight, and the conservative politicians you can usually at least count on to support competition with China shit the bed on this one because they oppose any projects associated with environmentalism. So they're basically handing the economic, technological edge relevant to our era over to the fastest growing economy on Earth which also happens to own most of our debt.

So it's like, "What the fuck is wrong with you? Do you WANT us to be left behind? Do you want us to be the only nation still desperately sucking down oil at inflated prices as the rest of the world has modernized their energy infrastructure?"

I don't get these people. It's like they'd eat their own eyeballs if they thought it would piss off an environmentalist.

>> No.2031361

>>2031348
So is there any solution to this? Like, a crazy disaster prevention fund?

>> No.2031387

>>2031361

I don't know. If I had answers like that I'd be a very wealthy man. I don't think a general disaster relief fund would work as when you amass that kind of money, all sorts of people line up and creatively redefine what "disaster" means so as to claim their cut.

Climate change is going to fuck us up the ass though, and it's frustrating that the same damn people denying it today were denying ozone hole depletion in the 90s. Yet following corrective measures the hole is healing, UV exposure is down, acid rain has nearly vanished but everyone has such a short memory that mentioning the fact that there ever was concern about an "ozone hole" in the first place elicits only blinking, wide-eyed confusion. "Nothing bad happened though, so it must have been a hoax."

Maybe we should let things go to shit this time, just to prove a point. I don't know.

>> No.2031396

>>2031355
>It's like they'd eat their own eyeballs if they thought it would piss off an environmentalist.

This. Perhaps we should get all the environmentalists to go against brilliant policies.

>> No.2031401

>>2031355
yes but only one eye