/sci/ - Science & Math

Holy Bump

babbys first trolololol

didn't think you had an answer, atheists.
>don't you know the only reason you know the science now is because it was observed?

this part scared you the most that the only reason you consider what you know reliable is because you were influenced and raised(same thing as influenced) to think the way you do.

Babby's worst troll

>>2028618
I'm right though, I'm not a troll.

>>2028627
nice try, that gave it away.
also,
>>2028623
whatthefuckamireading.exe

>>2028628
what gave what away?

by me saying I'm not a troll? what are you a jew?

>>2028628
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>>2028618
are you atheists?

>>2028584
>we all know both atheist and theist are all placed in the same physical world,

That world has causality, we wouldn't be in it and it wouldn't exist without causality.

God defies causality, not neccessarily negating our existence, but certainly negating knowledge which is based on logic- causality.

So atheists can know things about the physical world via causality. Superstitious throwbacks can know nothing, as they deny causality.

That's all, christians are irrational children who haven't thought through the repercussions of their silly beliefs.

And of course there is no god.

>>2028661
>causality

what causalities have we deined?

ITT: HERP DERP and the godless bunch.

>>2028673
Causality:

What is the origin of god?
How did god evolve?
What is god's culture?
What is god's interest in us?
Where is god's brain?
Why is god's brain?
Where is god's hand?
Why is god's hand?
Where is god's eye?
Why is god's eye?
Where is god's mouth?
Why is god's mouth?
Where is god's ear?
Why is god's ear?
How does god ambulate?
Why does god ambulate?
How does god manipulate?
Why does god manipulate?
Where is god's organism?
Why is god's organism?

>>2028692
I don't' see the point, thins happen.

so?

>>2028707
>I don't' see the point

Of course you don't, or you would be an atheist.

>thins happen.

WRONG!

Things happen FOR A REASON.
Always.
Causality.

>>2028673
>pic related
This is the universe as the way I see it, OP.
The fact that an all-knowing all-omnipotent god doesn't even interact in the world is like playing "I'm not touching you" on a cosmic scale.
With the physical evidence of his absence, and with our observations of science (that they cannot be created or destroyed), leaves no room for god to create the universe. Universal patterns simply point in that direction. Go ahead and believe in your silly delusions, if you wish. I think you're simply scared of death.
Remember this, though. We know as a fact that in history, when people wouldn't understand things like thunder and lightning and rain and stars, people would use a supernatural explanation, since they couldn't provide a natural one. This started the primitive belief in gods. Eventually, this belief was used to manipulate the mass public. This is a very strong argument from an athiest's perspective. You'll have a tough time disproving that christianity wasn't one of these phenomenons.

>>2028673

I would have said:

Origin of the universe
Origin of the solar system
Age of planet Earth
Age of species
Evolution in general.

Not all of them do this, but plenty of Christians will assert that the scientific consensus about these subjects is absolutely wrong, yet rarely construct valid arguments to support their cases. From what I observe, their driving force behind their efforts to preserve their viewpoint is their belief in God.
Kind of sad when the idea of God and these subjects need not be mutually exclusive with a little thought.

>>2028719
>Of course you don't, or you would be an atheist.

this is a fallacy, it simply means we don't have an answer yet, you have made a judgment based on an opinion it's just the conventional and general opinion thus you don't realize it's an opinion, this is part of human nature.

it doesn't mean God isn't real it just means he doesn't heal amputees

People still believe in gods? Mofo's need back the fuck up outta that 15th century.

Ya dig?

>yet rarely construct valid arguments to support their cases.

this part shouldn't exist.

>>2028661
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>>2028732
troll'd

>>2028740
>this is a fallacy, it simply means we don't have an answer yet,

wrong again. I have stated the answer and you have chosen not to understand, or were incapable.

>it doesn't mean God isn't real it just means he doesn't heal amputees

Do you see how you attempt to rationalize the lack of causality in god? By saying it does this or doesn't do that?

God doesn't heal amputees, god doesn't anything.

>>2028762
I'm not a troll.

I have made valid arguments so far.

and cannot disprove that statement.

go ahead and try.

you're the troll.

>>2028766
>wrong again. I have stated the answer and you have chosen not to understand, or were incapable.

no, you stated an illogical opinion based on nothing but your personal influence, you responded with a conventional opinion that is based on nothing, you never disproved me.

>>2028771
You haven't made a single valid argument.

I know you're a troll, but I love watching you drown in a sea of ideas you don't even know exist.

>>2028777
You don't understand logic, there is nothing to disprove.

>I have made valid arguments so far.

Maybe.

If you said something like: you cannot claim that something doesn't exist from negative evidence, you would be correct. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there.

But you didn't, so you are perceived as a troll.

You might have a problem with Russell's Teapot though.

>>2028771

There is a fine china teapot with gold filigree in orbit around the sun, at the same speed as the Earth and at a similar distance, but on the opposite side.

This statement must be true, because you cannot disprove it.

>>2028777
Kill yourself please.
Either a religious or a poor troll less for the society.

>>2028929
why hello there mr. strawman.

my faith is always made stronger by the antipathy of nonbelievers.

Unfortionately, disproving god would be like providing Devil's Proof. It's impossible.
The only way to be absolutely sure that god does not exist is if we explore the entire universe, every square inch of it. However, the universe's stretch is infinite. No matter how much we search, there will always be more to look through, and there won't be any less to search. So the idea that god does not exist will always remain a theory, at best.
However, his existence is very, very, very unlikely.

>>2028771
>I have made valid arguments so far.

>and cannot disprove that statement.
What is there to disprove? It's like if i wanted you to disprove that i have a dream about op not being a fag

>>2028584
You're sinning for posting what you've posted.

You're a troll though, so qq more.

i liek turtles

>>2028960
That wouldn't work either, because gods can be said to exist outside the natural universe.

The god hypothesis is SO badly conceived that it's totally unprovable. The definition is so plastic that nothing can prove that god exists.

>>2028987
sin is transgression of the law.