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are any bio related engineering fields worth getting into? seems everyone here likes EE and MechE

>> No.2007264

Yes. The college of bioengineering here is doing the most interesting research I've ever seen.

Let me give you insight into my current official project. p21 is some random molecule that is responsible for controlling the G1/S checkpoint. If you knock it out, you get motherfucking mammals that regenerate niggershitting LIMBS. They regenerate exactly in the same way as amphibians. We haven't done this to a person yet, but people have p21 too, and it does exactly the same thing. I'm working on a targeted delivery system that will reversibly silence p21 in a normal adult, because it turns out that stopping p21 production in an otherwise p21+/+ individual will make them show the same phenotype. I take a mouse, sedate it, amputate a finger and give it antisense-p21 RNA and it starts regrowing what I cut off.

Bioengineering is the best engineering.

>> No.2007274

http://www.mediafire.com/?0f1z30bwgkdxi5a
My first paper on the subject.

>> No.2007416

>>2007264
Cool, brah. This isn't the same type of engineering that designs mechanical organs and shit, right?

>> No.2007438

>>2007264
>>2007274
Saving your paper. I'm actually pretty happy that I can understand what you're doing.

>> No.2007476

Also, biomimetics is developing better versions of some of our most advanced materials, and genetic engineering is booming, with more power to manipulate genomes and their products than ever before.

>> No.2007793

bump for interest

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>>2007416
Broadly speaking, bioengineering is taking something having to do with biology and doing something with it.

Biomedical engineering is part of that, so yes. That's damn cool too.

Mechanical organs and shit. The bit of that field that interests me is neuroprosthetics...that's what I'm working on as a side project. Pic is my mouse friend Dopamine the Dope-dealing Dopemouse...he's pretty chill, for a mouse that had his spine exposed and his neurons conjugated with bits of wire.

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>>2007264
Do want. Link to site? I'm going to go Mechatronic with a focus on artificial intelligence, artificial life, and simulation for my Undergraduate. Bioengineering with a focus on man-machine interfaces and techno-organic artificial life for my graduate work. Nanotech and nanofabrication with a focus on programmable self-replicating nanosystems for my post-graduate work.

>> No.2007849

>>2007842
I'm more going for the bionic side of bioengineering than bio-engineering in general, but I go for breadth-first education.

>> No.2007850

>>2007842
>link to site
Not sure which site.
http://web.mit.edu/be/index.shtml
department website?
http://web.mit.edu/be/people/belcher.shtml
chick whose lab I work in?

>> No.2007860 [DELETED] 

>>2007850
Ah. My first choice. I'll be applying their in two years. What're your thoughts on the admission process? Any protips?

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>>2007850
Ah. My first choice. I'll be applying their in two years. What're your thoughts on the admission process? Any protips?

>> No.2007870

>>2007866
For grad school? Have papers. If you haven't published yet, find a professor that does cool shit and do cool shit with them. They'll be like
>you have papers published as an undergrad
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU GOT PUBLISHED IN NATURE
nom nom nom all over your dick.

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>>2007870
I'll be applying for my undergrad. I might do my graduate work at MIT as well depends on the financing of it when I get there. I plan on getting in UROP. I'm hoping to get to work with Max Tegmark, Seth Lloyd, or anyone else in quantum computation and/or digital physics.

I'm currently performing original research in quantum computation and artificial intelligence independently that I plan on submitting for peer review and publishing in about a year to eighteen months.

Would it be possible to go for graduate studies at MIT without an undergraduate degree? I mainly want to engage in fundamental theoretical research and experimentation.

>> No.2007934

>>2007918
>Would it be possible to go for graduate studies at MIT without an undergraduate degree? I mainly want to engage in fundamental theoretical research and experimentation.
No. One of the requirements for grad school - one of the few FIRM requirements they have on paper - is an undergraduate degree. I got my undergrad in molecular/cell bio and I'm doing work in that field, but there is a postdoc here who got his undergrad from a liberal arts school in American Lit. He got in because he knew his shit, and he filled his electives with relevant classes.

TLDR you need a piece of paper saying you know something.

>> No.2007959

>>2007850
1997-99 Postdoctoral Fellow, U California - Santa Barbara
1997 Ph.D., U California - Santa Barbara
1991 B.S., U California - Santa Barbara

Jesus Christ, I can't believe there are people who stay at the same school for their whole fucking post-secondary education. Not only are you strongly encouraged in just about every academic discipline to not go to the same school for grad work that you did for undergrad, but it would just be so damn boring to stay at the same place for 12 fucking years.

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>>2007934
Do you suppose they'd let me in if I invented a testable holographic theory of matter, spacetime, information, and simulation for digital physics?

>> No.2007971

I'm a computer engineer specialised in biomedical tech. Presently writing algorithms to visually identify cancer cells in microscope images for a research centre. Shit's pretty dope.

In my old job I was doing pretty much the same thing, but for wood. Write a program that can tell someone right away how quality a tree is by looking at a microscopic picture of a core sample. That was borring as hell; Fucking wood pisses me off.

>> No.2007974

>>2007959
I foresee myself pursuing my current research for a decade or more. I'd be plenty happy to stay where I am. There's money here.
Maybe there was money there.

>> No.2008043

>>2007870
>Implying that being published in Nature is a realistic expectation for an undergrad
The only fucking way an undergrad will ever get published in Nature is if they had extraordinarily good luck at every step of the way
>Need to join a professor whose lab is doing Nature publication worthy projects
>Said research also needs to be simple enough to get summed up within Nature's article length requirements
>Need to get lucky enough to have said professor hand you said project instead of giving it to a grad student
>Need to be lucky enough to get publishable results from it (plenty of promising research projects out there that fizzle out once you start doing the data analysis. Just ask any professor)
>Need to get started on all of this early, like sophomore year at the latest, in order to get all the research, data analysis, writing, and publication hoops done

As an undergrad you should just be aiming to get published period. It's awesome if you get into prestigious journal, but that's extremely unlikely to happen considering that it's an achievement even for fully tenured professors. And really, even a single publication in a rather unprestigious journal will still put you ahead of 99% of grad school applicants.

>> No.2008063

"Bioengineering" is an acillary field.


true "bioengineering" is performed by biochemists.


this is an absolute fact. 90% of published research in the field is done by people with degrees that say "biochemistr" or "MCDB" or equivalent on the paper.

>> No.2008069

>>2008043
That's a plus. I'm advising research in general. Being published in PNAS and nature before you get your undergrad degree is just massive luck and a big bonus.

>> No.2008080

>>2008063
I would argue that it's an application field. You either take things the biochemist does, or do it yourself as a biochemist, and do something useful.

So p21 is a regulator of CDK2 - who cares? So what it is the principal mechanism of the G1/S checkpoint?
You take that knowledge and apply it in a novel way, and WHAMMO mouse that regenerates limbs. You take information which is only of true use to further pure research, and make it work for you in some beneficial way.

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My objective is the design and development of synthetic people. Does my educational plan:
>>2007842
seem appropriate for realizing that objective?
I figure I might consider UC Berkley for my Bioengineering/Bionics research, and Singularity University for nanotechnology and nanofabrication though I suspect that will change the closer I get to that decision. I'm not aware of many post-graduate nanotech and nanofabrication programs.

>> No.2008330

>>2008223
Medieval Mega Man in your pic?

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>>2008330
Indeed. I was inspired by the idea of Dr. Light, Dr. Wiley, and Rock AKA Rockman AKA The Blue Bomber AKA Megaman.

I wish I had been exposed to Astro first though. He's more like Andrew Martin of Bicentennial.

>> No.2010569

>>2008063
>acillary