[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/sci/ - Science & Math


View post   

File: 299 KB, 734x850, AC (96).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2000666 No.2000666 [Reply] [Original]

Good morrow, solitary faggot who actually reads this shit; today we will be discussing imagination – you know, that amazing ability we all have where we can picture almost anything in our minds, and travel to places we haven’t even been to. When you speak to a scientist about combining the scientific approach with religion, you usually receive the heresy reply of “Don’t mix science with faith, you’re insignificant, we came from NOTHING! AHHHH,” kind of sadistic and pessimistic crap you hear from devil worshippers or kids who cut their veins each night (sorry bro, I’m well aware of your problems). Moving on, reversing their little defence manoeuvre I’ve proposed that science does not combine or mix with imagination, seeing as imagination doesn’t follow these strict nihilistic laws and shouldn’t be defined, and most definitely isn’t the meaningless science we are taught today. As Einstein rightfully said “Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world,” which is completely agreeable don’t you think? Especially coming from one as intellectual as Albert the great, the definer of intelligence, the best scientist that ever lived – never forget!

>> No.2000668
File: 169 KB, 644x850, AC (97).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2000668

As we (you) know, we’re firm believers in the ‘timecube theory’ that Gene Ray and primitive Hebrew Christians invented. I was wondering exactly what makes the cubic earth, spherical – and then it hit me! Imagination! It’s the only plausible thing that can make something look like something else; otherwise everything would just be cubes. Where the cube would be the knowledge, due to its limited nature – and the sphere would be imagination, due to its freedom (encircles the world as Einstein said). More so, the human brain is capable of producing two thought processes, those which are limited to knowledge and those of which are free to imagine. Imagination is the reason why I can literally put myself Ezio from Assassins Creed shoes, and knowledge is the reason that tells me I’m most definitely not. Does this mean that once we pass on, if we are imaginative, we will join the imagination in the universe? It cannot be just existence in humans, animals that are less-evolved mentally, without the ~knowledge~ of good and evil, can only imagine, which would explain why they only work off of instincts and can learn only basic commands. When you teach a dog to walk on two legs, it doesn’t walk around on two legs, it does when commanded to – in the exact same fashion when I walk around like Ezio and I meet a policeman who tells me I’m crazy, I stop. Could it be, that everything is linked, by imagination? Let’s hope so.

>> No.2000670

>science doesn't combine with imagination
The entire history of science would beg to differ.

0/10 troll harder.

>> No.2000686

>>2000670
No it doesn't. If science does not combine with religion then it cannot combine with imagination. Fact.

>> No.2000693
File: 50 KB, 420x525, il_fullxfull.44556448.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2000693

ughablugabingpong

>> No.2000697

Anyway, I'll be back soon with the final copy and with more information. I'll make this the best one yet.

>> No.2000706

>>2000686
>implying that all imagination leads to religion
>implying that it doesn't take a shitload of imagination to imagine that the Earth is round or that everything is made of atoms in 230 bc

>> No.2000763
File: 348 KB, 800x794, AC (16).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2000763

This would evidently prove that humanity is enslaved into a single thought process (knowledge) and if science decides to mix with imagination, they will attempt to abolish it, destroying our freedom of thought and not allowing us to take the route we wanted to; alike the red and blue pill in the matrix except we are force fed the blue pill to make society work for advancement purposes – which inevitably forces us further away from each other, inducing hatred, torment and depression. Such a meaningful existence toned down to chemicals and insignificance. We can imagine what the universe is like, and in our brains we can travel to the depths unreachable by technology – but according to science we are nothing but a tiny spec in the vast black void we know as space. Surely if it’s possible to live with such vigour and wonder we should? For humanity and for the children of the future, this obviously would be the better path to take. The meaningless of the modern scientific approach is disgusting and should be converted into one that holds significance, one that would enlighten each and every child born into a world that’s truly worth living upon. If we can imagine anything in the universe that abides to the cubic nature, then surely the universe is not infinite – as described in the Rational Belief article at www.cubicao.com.

>> No.2000779

Someone doesnt know what imagination is

btw, coming from nothing is kind of beautiful, it shows how surprising probability can be

>> No.2000786

> the meaningless science we are taught today
maby you should throw your computer away then

computer powered by science

>> No.2000791

>>2000779
What is imagination then? (awaiting knowledge (the opposite of imagination) application)

>> No.2000797

>>2000791
>>2000791

Imagination is forming things in your mind when you are not percieving them

>> No.2000808

>>2000797
How does one 'imagine'? (and nice application of knowledge, the opposite of knowledge, onto imagination. I'ma apply imagination to knowledge now: "You talk a load of fucking shit")

>> No.2000813

"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand." - Einstein

This is one of his most famous quotes. Every scientist knows imagination is extremely important. Without it, we would make no progress. Science is imagination thats been checked against reality. Religion is imagination thats been checked against your personal feelings. One will result in progress and the benefit of humanity. While the other will give you wrong answers, get you lost, and ultimately spiral into an extreme lack of imagination.

Another great quote

"I think Nature's imagination is so much greater than man's that she's never going to let us relax." - Richard Feynman

This one is also very true, you will be hard to find a scientist who disagrees with it. If you truely want to embrace imagination, you need to use science. Without it, you will just keep doing the same thing over and over, never improving yourself, never bettering the world.

Religious people are the people who have no imagination. They cant think of things for themselves. They dont ask, what if? They simply say, ok. This is what makes a religion a religion. It is the denial of your imagination.

>> No.2000828

You must first perceive

When you think of a plane while in the bathroom you are imagining one because you have previously seen a image of a plane

What about things that doesnt exist?

Well you can imagine Unicorns. why? because you have previously seen a horn and a horse therefore you can make the intellectual effort of mixing those 2 objects to create a unicorn in your mind. This is how fantastic creatures are define( fairies: woman + insect wings, gryph= lion+eagle. etc...)

>> No.2000849

>>2000666
Nice get.
=D
It's just so fitting!

>> No.2000862

>>2000813
Science is not imagination. Science is knowledge. Science requires vast amounts of evidence before something can be considered, and hypotheses are only considered if composed in good knowledgeable detail, or from educated people. Imagination plays no part in science. You try tell a scientist you think we came from bubbles or that you know the theory of evidence, but most of it relies on things that don't abide by the logic of science.

tl;dr, no, science is not imaginative, those people just were.

>> No.2000887

>>2000828
I imagine before the word virus the imagination was much better. Now it's limited to what we know, as you said -- but the fact I CAN use my imagination to interpret events based on what I know, that doesn't require tons of evidence, and gives us meaning other than insignificance, supports and gives reasoning to changing the scientific nihilistic approach. Imagination is the OPPOSITE of knowledge.

>> No.2000899

>>2000862
>scientists are imaginative
>science isn't imaginative
Your logic is flawless. It's like how racism is humane because racists aren't.

>> No.2000904

>>2000899
You're not worth arguing with as you just admitted you're dumb as fuck and are desperately trying to 'win' something. Shame really, I was hoping for a competitive reply.

>> No.2000910

>>2000862
Learning science is just knowledge. Actually DOING science -- discovering new shit, creating new models to describe the universe -- is more imagination than knowledge.

>> No.2000955

>>2000904
Yes, that's exactly what I said.

Will someone remind me why I'm arguing with a tripfag who believes that imagination and knowledge are incompatible?

Aether, you changed your trip but you're more faggy than ever.

>> No.2001007

>>2000910
Doing science isn't imagination you sketchy unintelligent gullible prick. Academia is against imagination, and modern-day science revolves around that. Imagination allows you to think 'outside of the rules', and your 'rules' show that you aren't thinking outside. And conducting science is not imagination, it's alike a trained dog. I know of 'this', and I know of 'that', and I know how to 'mix' - I'll combine my knowledge.

>> No.2001018

>>2001007
arguments, evidence our source. Your post has none. It's nothing but an uneducated opinion. Grow up.

>> No.2001028

>>2001018
And there you have it. Proof. Science and imagination cannot co-exist, according to science.

>> No.2001046

>>2001028
Pointing out your BS is proof that yu're right?

Shit, son, I don't know what you're smoking but you had damn well better give me some NAO

>> No.2001050

When I see the planet Earth. I use my imagination to show that it has a top + bottom, left + right, front + back, as dualities and antipodes. I can go to a new planet and know that the side of which I don't see, exists. Science on the other hands, according to the laws that it puts in place when doing science on other things, HAS to check the other side, under the impression that it isn't structured and could be completely random. That's unimaginative, putting trust into knowledge and meaninglessness and avoiding imagination and significance.

/thread

>> No.2001051

Religious people don't put religion in their imagination thought process. They put it in their known. They make what they know with that as a base. It would be fine if they kept it to imagination, mixed with goldie locks and all that shit. When people start using their fairy tells as basis, that's when shit hits the fan. Find me a religious person that will say there religion is just an imagination.

>> No.2001074

>>2001051
Imagination isn't a fairy-tale, it's real. And religion has been fabricated. It is science, just misunderstood through Atheistic-editing and transformation. Most of the insults that Atheists use are actually more relative to Atheists themselves. Maybe you should stop thinking about what you can imagine and start thinking about the why. Oh yeah! You're a humongous nihilistic faggot, you're insignificant and have no meaning -- there is no 'Why'

>> No.2001092

First God created the Imagination and Knowledge

>> No.2001093
File: 199 KB, 1280x960, NOCTIS-Y-U-SO-ANGRY-AT-LIFE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2001093

>> No.2001096

>>2001074
Haha coming from the most pessimistic asshole on this board.
Sorry /sci for feeding the troll.
I'll now return to sodomizing my unicorn, IT'S FUCKING REAL.

>> No.2001103

The Knowledge was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the spirit of God was moving across the face of the waters.

>> No.2001112

NOCTIS Y U SO ANGRY AT LIFE

>> No.2001142

And God said, "Let there be life" and there was life.

>> No.2001149

And God saw that the life was Good, and separated the life from the darkness. God called the life Day and the darkness he called Night. And there was an evening and morning.

>> No.2001171

So he's crazy and angry. Whens the school shooting countdown begin?

>> No.2001203

In the beginning Gravity created the Time and the Nature. The Nature was without form, and void rather like a black hole; and darkness was upon the face of the deep in the middle. And the Spirit of Love moved across the face of the outside pulling time towards the centre. As time met the middle like a sperm meets the egg, Gravity said, “Let there be Light,” and there was light. Gravity received the light, seen that it was Good, and separated it from the darkness. Gravity called the light Day, and the darkness Night, and there was Evening and Morning, alike a ying yang.

>> No.2001307

Magnets, how do they work?

>> No.2001321

Gravity inside the Earth? Or a magnetic field outside of the Earth?

>> No.2001345

Try use your imagination to interpret the bible, what's the matter, is your mind limited into believing it's a fairy-tale?

That's all for today. I'll be sure to resume my crusade tomorrow.

Peace

>> No.2001360

MAGNETS

>> No.2001368

NICE TRIPS OP

>> No.2001375

Imagination force.

>> No.2001382
File: 7 KB, 235x158, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2001382

In magnets I trust

>> No.2001398

In magnets we trust,