/sci/ - Science & Math

Reported, hidden, saged, laughed, called the police, etc.

#3 Personal Observation.
Like many of Christians I have felt the presence of God in my life and heard His voice talking to me. Further more I have survived numerous attempts on my life in my job and escaped contacting AIDs even though I have to have contact with witches. I KNOW God exists.

#4 Heisenberg uncertainty principle
Since we can not prove anything exist in Quatom mechanics we can't disprove anything. If we can't disprove God then logically God has to exist.

#5 The Law of Information
The Law of Information states that all coded information is the product of an intelligent being. DNA is such a code. The only intelligent being who could have produced it God.

Real quick post from /sp/ right now:
>if mathematical calculations show that there are infinite universes, then god must exist. this is because everything that has a probability of happening will happen when we're talking about infinity.

>one monkey with one typewriter smashing on it for an infinite amount of time will eventually type out the complete works of shakespeare.
Well /sci/, what say you?

#6 God is the greatest thing Imaginable,
Humans have never been able to imagine anything greater than God. Clearly we must have reason to imagine God. Further more something must be limiting our imaginations and the only thing that can do that is God.

There you have it, six arguments that prove God exists.

I away your rebuttals Atheists.

>>1886410

If younhave nothing to contribute, stop posting you dumb troll

atheists trolling atheists thread #123814912391

>Every effect has a prior cause. This leads to a regress.
>a first cause, which we call God
>Every effect has a prior cause. This leads to a regress.
>a first cause, which we call God
>Every effect has a prior cause. This leads to a regress.
>a first cause, which we call God
>Every effect has a prior cause. This leads to a regress.
>a first cause, which we call God

>#2
I really have nothing to say about your medieval scientific proof.

>>1886408
>Quatom

>This entire thread

even Aristotle, the Greek who is credited with the foundations of most of modern "science", proved that God existed!

His arguement:

1. There exists movement in the world.
2. Things that move were set into motion by something else.
3. If everything that moves were caused to move by something else, there would be an infinite chain of causes. This can't happen.
4. Thus, there must have been something that caused the first movement.
5. From 3, this first cause cannot itself have been moved.
6. From 4, there must be an unmoved mover. (i.e. God)

If even a heathen Greek figured it out around 350 BC, why is it taking atheists so long?

>>1886413
Possibility != Fantasy

If I had an infinite amount of time and threw 1000 dices. I would eventually get 1000 6's. I would NEVER EVER get a 7 on any of the dice. It's just not possible.

>>1886418


lol, u have no rebuttal gaytheist

obvious troll is obvious.

>>1886437
Posting it is redundant

>>1886437
>>1886450


lol u have no rebuttal so you shitpost

please remove yourself from the internet, you own science contradicts you

1. ID has been dis-proven a many and many points. Why is it not taught in schools?... because the amount of scientific proof is not enough for the scientific community to see it a realistic or enough to be legitimate.

2. feeling of presence of god is brought on im old cultures and shamans with hallucinogenics, burning herbs, etc. It's a euphoric feeling or a feeling similar to one of being out of one's body.

3. they've proven that DNA and all forms of RNA have been able to form naturally with just the presence of nucleic acids and nucleotides.

source: Bio-Chemistry major.

>Every effect has a prior cause.
> first cause
contradiction
gtfo

Science takes thought.
Religion takes arrogance.

Learn about the world...or believe one singular and spew the same arguments for hundreds of years even though they've been beat into the dust multiple times...

>>1886426
movement at constant speed is the natural/default state of any object

big bang was not caused by nothing.
Research the Big Bounce theory.

gives origin for big bang and cause for everything. our Bounce might not have been the only one in the universe.
religion closes your mind.
Science opens it. Expands it, and lets you search for more.

just because we cant find the answer or cant comprehend it... doesnt mean you can instantly blame god.
religion for those who no longer want to think.

>Big Bang
Sorry atheists, but this is where you lose.

There is no way something like the big bang could have occurred without an infinite source of energy. God was responsible for the big bang.

>>1886517
prove it.
prove it couldnt have happened then ill look for another way.
that is the way on the intellectual. Have an idea, test it. If it's wrong, reevaluate.

so prove to me that it's impossible.
just because your ignorant doesnt mean there is a god. only ignorant people willing to believe other ignorant people.

>>1886531
>prove it couldnt have happened then ill look for another way.
>prove to me that it's impossible.

Logical fallacy: burden of proof

>>1886548
so you cant...
christfag has no proof.

Don't bump and reply, report it!

you are retarded. The Bible is the truth, but your reasoning is broken and unfounded. Go back to your cloister and blindly memorize verses. Leave the independent thought to scientists. Your intelligence is too low to combat the dark forces of 4chan.

bible is scribbles written by sand niggers.
tell bible stories to children and even they can tell it's not literal truth.
christfag is fag.

>>1886563
>>1886531
oh no.. i just popped in here.. i'm not the guy you're arguing with

but it is a fallacy.. so your logic has failed

>>1886405

I thought you were real until #2. A real christfag would never admit to his sky daddy's assholery.

It's funny because I actually agree with #1. This is perfectly fine reasoning until he calls the first cause 'god'. This attributes the first cause the properties of a deity, when in reality the first cause is probably a quantum fluctuation utterly removed from theism and even deism.

Even if you were to prove the existence of a high power (aka God). It still wouldn't be the one the Bible talks about as it is a bunch of bullshit that contradicts itself a lot of times.

Take Genesis, for instance. Creating plants before the Sun? Are you serious?

> mfw

>>1886667

Holy shit, this picture is so dumb, it's spelled lose.

>#4 Heisenberg uncertainty principle
>Since we can not prove anything exist in Quatom mechanics we can't disprove anything. If we can't disprove God then logically God has to exist.

Dude, will you be my new best friend?

>>1886678

> can't disprove fairies living in the bottom of a well

>>1886405
1. Implying God somehow is an exception to all of logic, and therefore must have somehow caused himself.
2. Wrong, it's called probability.
>>1886408
3. You're insanity is a logical explanation for this phenomenon.
4. We can't disprove anything's existence, therefore everything must exist, including the invisible sparkly pink unicorn ramming its eight dicks into the invisible niggers attached to your invisible tail.
5. That law doesn't exist.
>>1886415
6. I can't imagine God, because logically, God is self-contradictory. It's not God that's limiting my imagination, it's the fact that the idea of a "God" existing is a logical mindfuck and paradox.

There you have it, six counterarguments.

#3 Disproven

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN3ggRgY7Ac

#4 If you can't disprove anything, then I am God.

inb4 you got trolled.

>>1886405
funny thing is, none of those are proper scientific evidence, and all of them have other explanations that don't need a god,

also sage

> #5 The Law of Information

LOLWUT

#7 If doesn't exist why am I such a faggot?

>>1886667
>loose

OP, these "proofs" are ontological, teleological, and deductive. None of these types of argument are themselves scientific. In this case all of your arguments are also neither original or true.

learn2logic or troll harder.

He's obviously a troll, guys. Come on.

#1 >Nothing is caused by itself. Every effect has a prior cause.
This is technically true, but by that logic God must have been caused; and if God is the be-all end-all, he caused himself, therefore defying the logic which 'proves' his existence. And before you go all paradoxical on me, think about how this would look in an actual equation.

#2 Actually, I look at those diseases and see an entity which has on it's own developed those actions, without a guiding intelligence.

#3 And I KNOW that what you have just described can be considered a personal epiphany.

#4 Well actually, if we can't disprove something: than it is LIKELY to exist.

#5 I have no idea what this Law of Information is; but it sounds more philosophical than scientific.

#6 I have just imagined a flying pig on a unicycle, which seems greater than the idea of God I possess.

Also, not an Athiest, I personall worship THOR, GOD OF THUNDER AND HAMMERTIME.

The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle just states that we cannot calculate exact location and momentum of a particle simultaneously.

>>1886754
And I, sir, worship you from now on.

#1
but if 'nothing is caused by itself' how could god exist?
#2
but you're not intelligent. Also if we were created then god is an idiot
#3
but if you truly believe #4 then you cant 'KNOW' god exists.
#4
not exactly proof that god exists, only that god is a possibility. However the existence of a god from a religion other than Christianity is just as likely
#5
Things aren't laws just because you say they are but i don't think a code (from GCTA) is impossible without god.

More depth may be needed but i can't be bothered wasting anymore time on this troll

ITT atheists overlook the reasons god is IMpossible.

C'mon guys, what is consciousness if not a tool used by living organisms having physical bodies to deal with their physical environments?

Is it possible to have an incorporeal consciousness? If possible, is it necessary?

God (incorporeal consciousness) is not possible or necessary, thus god does not exist and if existing has no cause to persist.

>>1886405
>scientific

#1 Fuck your dead-for-300-years philosopher:
"Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing"
- Stephen Hawking
#2 Fuck your Stupid design:
A monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare.
That's the way evolution rolls: Random stuff for a long time gives something complex.
#3 Fuck your mental diseases:
The brain is known to play cruel tricks on people, call it hallucinations, imaginary friends or believe - it's everything but a prove.
#4 Fuck your nonsense logic:
If we cannot disprove god's nonexistence then logically god's nonexistence has to exist?
#5 Fuck you repeating yourself:
Same as #2. Also wtf "Law of Information"? There is no such thing.
#6 Fuck your 300 year old philosophers AGAIN:
I can imagine god to not exist, thus god doesn't exist?

Just fuck you a lot.