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1875270 No.1875270 [Reply] [Original]

Suck it, gaytheists.

>> No.1875273

Because you touch yourself at night.

>> No.1875275

reported

>> No.1875280

Because people die, especially those born in the 19th century.

>> No.1875282

If pope is so holy then why bulletproof car?

>> No.1875292
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>>1875282
Because you godless sinners would try to kill him.

>> No.1875297

I wonder if the key to immorality will be one very smart man who does not want to die.

>> No.1875302

>>1875292

If God wanted the Pope to live, He would not have created such people. I find the Pope's lack of faith disturbing.

>> No.1875317

>>1875297
>immorality
Typical.
>>1875302
Ah, but God wouldn't try to protect him, because Catholics aren't Christians. They're more like Muslims.

>> No.1875325

>>1875317
Catholics and west church bros are the only true christians

>> No.1875330

Darkness, when light stops darkness is always there, light takes time to illuminate darkness

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>>1875325
Hilarious. We don't just think the Bible is true. It IS true because it's the Word of God. People who say "It's true because the Bible says it's true" is illogical are ignorant of the natures of both truth and the Bible and are themselves guilty of being illogical.

>> No.1875347

Wait what? "Catholics aren't Christians" when did this happen?

>> No.1875353

>>1875347
When atheists claimed atheism wasn't a religion

>> No.1875357

>>1875343
mybrainisfulloffuckdotjaypeg

>> No.1875365

>>1875357
Obviously many people refuse to read the Bible and thus miss out on the benefit of its foreknowledge. Had scientists carefully studied the walking on water with an open mind, then it may not have taken 1900 years before they recognized the existence of wave-particle duality. Ditto for many other phenomena.

>> No.1875389

>>1875330
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Light goes whatever speed god wants it to.

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>> and niggers

yes captcha, them to

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>>1875270

>qft

>> No.1875434

>>1875407
How laughable it is to read the bravado of the atheists here. Their overconfidence will not serve them well in the end.

It's quite simple: The typical atheist could care less about God or their fellow man. The rejection of God leaves him with nothing in the moment of severe mental crisis. Having nothing, he wants to become nothing. Persistent doubt now culminates in despairing agony. But there is no God to pull him out. Ignorance was bliss, but now it becomes excruciating pain. Once strong in his freedom, he now finds himself pitifully weak.

In denying God, he denies spirituality. Since he denies his soul and the possibility of spiritual assistance from God, it is quite simply unavailable to him as he contemplates suicide.

There is nothing to lean on, since the atheist denies the Power that established him and sustains him. He's on his own. But the darkness is black. Black. It is cold and terribly lonely.

This is the sickness unto death. But death is not the end. There shall be a reckoning.

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>>1875434
>If you do not believe in God you will be sad when bad things happen.

>> No.1875478

>>1875434

Ahh, Christians, loving their fellow man. What's the number one thing that stays the same in all Christian stories? What's the moral?

Oh yeah, Live and Let Live. Something you obviously have no grasp of.

Show me the part of the Bible that says you have every right to act like a self-righteous douche to everybody who doesn't believe the same thing as you. I bet you won't be able to.

>> No.1875501

>>1875292
>implying the bible doesnt order you to kill most everyone different.
>>1875434
>implying athiests cant handle stressful situations.

sure is lacking in successful trolling in here.

>> No.1875504

>>1875434

And yet you place your trust in a book of stories passed down through the ages, the majority of which have no historical evidence to back them up. Surely faith in that instance is simply delusion, or rather, a sense of clinging onto something that might make your life have some purpose. While you are spending your time worrying about how you live your life - in order to please God on the day of reckoning and show that you have been a good Christian - atheists are out enjoying life on this planet right now, lacking faith simply means that they do not blindly place their trust in something which cannot be disproved. Chocolate teapot?

>> No.1875517

>>1875504

It isn't just that the stories have been passed down from generation to generation, it's that they've also been embellished and rewritten each time they've been retold.

These stories all started thousands of years before writing. Just look at the story of David and Goliath. It has gone through so many rewrites that it is known as the most corrupt book in the Bible.

Can you read it and tell me with absolute certainty, which description of David matches the David that slaughtered the giant?

Christianity has become nothing more than a tie between the next fad religion for everyone to follow, and the Greek and Roman gods and goddesses. All embellished stories, all meant to teach morals that everyone chooses to ignore.

>> No.1875524

>>1875517
Honestly, if evolution is a fact, why does 80% of North America believe that God created all things in some form or another, and a mere 20% trust evolution. Give me a break. Those numbers hardly equal a fact.

>> No.1875537

>>1875524
>thinks that people believing something makes it fact

remember when the sun revolved around the earth?

>> No.1875541

>>1875537
I love guys like you. What a treat it is to converse with someone of your closed, arrogant, simple, intelligence. You are like the man who wanders around all his life with a brown paper bag over his head... Since I know him personally , I have to conclude your data is the dribble. What do you know that proves my data is the dribble? Have you experience anything that puts proof behind your 'scientific facts'. No, they are just a bunch of theories backed up by a bunch of neo-scientific evidence like the age of the rocks which is based on circular reasoning... You will believe in God someday though. You will be standing in front of him... I know for absolute sure, proof positive what is there and from your perspective it is really scary!!! You are not going to like it at all. That is what you are running from no matter what you say. P.S I wonder why the greatest army in the world lost to a bunch of shoeless, out numbered, untrained rag tag American volunteer soldiers. Must have been evolution that caused it.

>> No.1875551

>>1875524
Also evolution has significantly better numbers than that (40%)
http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/Darwin-Birthday-Believe-Evolution.aspx

>> No.1875553

>>1875541

Evolution has been proved beyond.

>> No.1875555

>>1875553

+ doubt

>> No.1875561
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1875561

This religion-infested thread is now about Orion nebula

>> No.1875582

>>1875541
>'scientific facts'

as if facts arent concrete and backed by experimentation and math, but are rather random guesses with no backing.

>claims science as dribble despite using proof of the workings of science

thats a computer there son.

>many uses of '...' and an instance of '!!!"

marks of small children and others who are poor at communication skills, usually co-existing with being easily persuaded by poor stories told with decent communicative skills.

>implying belief in god isnt circular reasoning at its height

>thinks he knows god and therefore its true

if im a schizoid, and i name a voice bob, bob exists right? youre just wrong in assuming bob doesnt exist, cause I KNOW BOB. I LOVE YOU BOB! I WILL HAIL YOU UNTIL JUDGEMENT DAY SO I CAN LIVE WITH YOU FOREVER!


also
>implying theres not reasons for america winning their battles.
if you mean Britain, americans hid in the forest and shot at the brits from behind trees. the british army went out in formation, expecting the others to do the same. so there were americans firing at a box formation of british soldiers in a field, from behind trees. learn2reason

>> No.1875586

>>1875555
Christianity is just as logical as Evolution.
1. Something undeniably exists.
2. Nothing cannot cause something.
3. Something eternally and necessarily exists.
4. I am neither eternal nor necessary.
5. Whatever is not eternal and necessary needs a cause.
6. Therefore, there is an eternal and necessary cause
of my noneternal and non-necessary existence.
7. But I am a personal, moral and intelligent being.
8. Only an intelligent, personal and moral being can
create an intelligent, personal and moral being.
9. Therefore, a personal, intelligent and moral being must
exist.
10. There cannot be more than one such being
exactly the same, creating the same being.
11. Therefore, only one such Being (we call “God”)
exists as the CAUSE of all else that exists.
Q.E.D.

>> No.1875607

>>1875586
>1. Something undeniably exists.
yes.
>2. Nothing cannot cause something.
yes.
>3. Something eternally and necessarily exists.
a logic statement must be true without doubt, this is not a logic statement.
>4. I am neither eternal nor necessary.
correct.
>5. Whatever is not eternal and necessary needs a cause.
not a logic statement, see 3.
>6. Therefore, there is an eternal and necessary cause of my noneternal and non-necessary existence.
without 5, this cannot be made
>7. But I am a personal, moral and intelligent being.
all questionable, but ill allow it assuming you mean "sentient"
>8. Only an intelligent, personal and moral being can
create an intelligent, personal and moral being.
incorrect, see "Theory of Evolution"
>9. Therefore, a personal, intelligent and moral being must
exist.
incorrect with other statements being false.
>10. There cannot be more than one such being
exactly the same, creating the same being.
its technically not 0% to create an exact duplicate, just highly unlikely. statement is invalid.
>11. Therefore, only one such Being (we call “God”)
exists as the CAUSE of all else that exists.
Q.E.D.
loss of statements to prove answer.

>> No.1875615

>>1875607
There is more evidence for creation. The people proposing the theories for creation are more trustworthy than the people proposing evolutionary theories. Theory of Evolution is untenable. The theory isn't based in scientific proof. It is based on guesses from biased people.

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>>1875615
lol'd hard

>> No.1875621

>>1875616
Just what I expected, atheist.

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>>1875621
Are you a wizard?!

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>>1875615
....

if by more trustworthy you mean more retarded then yes

>> No.1875642

>>1875615

>Hey guys, look at this proof : [Blabla eternal, blabla moral bla]. Isn't that a good proof for the existence of God ? It just blew your mind, right ?
>But this is stupid, more than half of your assumptions don't even make sense.
>Well, maybe, but your theory is dumber than mine, because my theory is smarter than yours.

>> No.1875644

>>1875630
Well, explain me how reproduction appeared and DNA. But i know that you wont be able to say something else than: pouff! it appeared.

>> No.1875650

>>1875615

There is no evidence whatsoever for creationism, it is merely based on word of mouth which has been passed down through generations. I am intrigued though, could you explain some of this evidence for creationism?

>> No.1875655

>>1875650
just look at the perfectly designed banana

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>>1875637
>master's degree from Patriot Bible University
>any tax offense I want
>ten years in prison starting

>> No.1875664

>>1875650
For a person to believe that God does not exist when it is impossible to prove that He does not exist is irrational because it will always remain possible that God does exist. Atheism is actually the most irrational and illogical religion on the planet.

>> No.1875665

>>1875615

The pope is more trustworthy than a Cambridge professor? The former hiding decades of child abuse within the catholic church and moving priests who are caught abusing children to different parishes so that they can offend again, whereas the latter must prove theories in a scientific manner WITH EVIDENCE so that human understanding of evolution can be advanced. I know which I trust.

>> No.1875668

>>1875644
>HERP DERP DERP NEVER HEARD OF GOOGLE DERP, LOOKING FOR ANSWERS ON 4CHAN, DERP DERP DERP

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1875670

>evidence for creation

>> No.1875674

>>1875664

So you have no evidence of creationism then? Why would you say there is then?

>> No.1875676

>>1875674

The origin of life is a matter of history; history can only beknown by eyewitness accounts. The Bible is the recorded eyewitness account provided by the Architect of the universe, the Creator of all life.
The Bible isn't in conflict with observable science but is consistent with it. It's the history book of the universe. It thells us about the origin of life and the origin of death. Since we all eventually will face death, the answers in the Bible, authored by the Creator, should be of prime interest.

Is there any explosion that produces order? Does a terrorist bomb create harmony? Big bangs cause chaos. How could a Big Bang produce a rose, apple trees, fish, sunsets, the seasons, hummingbirds, birds, animals, trees, all with their own eyes, nose and mouth?

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1875677

>Suck it, gaytheists.
>gaytheists.
>Gay theists.

I agree with you, theists are pretty gay

>> No.1875680

>>1875665
Atheists, the Pope believes in God, so why don't you?
I'm PRETTY sure the Pope has more education then most people on here, which doesn't mean he's better than us though. ^_^ But anyway, if the Pope is well educated and still believes, doesn't that tell you something?

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>>1875676
>creationist trying to defend his delusion
priceless, not as good as conservapedia, but damn, you are trying really hard

>> No.1875682

>>1875676
Copypasta, copypasta everywhere.

>> No.1875685

>>1875682
It's still valid.

>> No.1875695

>>1875676

Again this is not evidence, it is simply a book of stories, nothing more, nothing less. The key difference between atheism and monotheism is the matter of faith. You place your faith in the book providing the evidence for creationism when there is no way of verifying the veracity of the book's contents. Science on the other hand provides the necessary tools to explore and understand how the universe was created, and provides atheists with information which discredits what is written in the bible. For example we now know that the earth was created 4.5 billion years ago, not 6000 years ago as creationists believe. This clear difference tests the veracity of what is said the bible, and the rationality of following, blindly, what is written within it.

>> No.1875697

>>1875677
Look, I can sum it all up in three words: Evolution is a lie

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1875700

>this thread

>> No.1875708

>>1875700

It is entertaining for sure. I don't see many people getting mad though

>> No.1875709

>>1875695
Then why, pray tell, are there still monkeys, if we all "evolved" from them? Why don't we have fur, and big mouths? Evolution makes no sense.

>> No.1875716

>>1875709

Because we didn't evolve from the monkeys of today, both humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor which is now extinct. Humans and monkeys, chimps really, are distant cousins.

>> No.1875717

>>1875709
This. If evolution is real, why aren't monkeys still evolving into humans? Why aren't banans still evolving into dogs?

>> No.1875721

>>1875716
It amazes me that some still use the same erroneous arguments in supporting their rejection of scripture.

>> No.1875722

>>1875717

We are always evolving, everything is. Life is one big struggle, a competition between species and animals for survival. It happens so slowly though that we cannot see it happening in real time.

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>>1875270

>> No.1875726

>>1875676
>Big bangs cause chaos

Have you seen the universe you live in? Shit is chaotic.

Even if you prove a creator exists (which you cannot, but for the sake of argument why not), you use cause and effect reasoning. So what created your God? Is there something that created the God that created your God? By that logic it is completely logical to assume that there is a never ending chain of creation, creating different planes of reality. Can you really say for a fact that anything I have said is false if God exists?

>> No.1875740

>>1875722
differnt guy
Since your a athiast, i belive you think you wil be a tree when you die correct? Well i hope you become a tree they cut you down and print the bible on you

>> No.1875744

>>1875721

Again, this has been proven using DNA sequencing. Science trumps religion once again, rationality over delusion.

>> No.1875746

Aww man this thread is Funny.
>>1875586
>8. Only an intelligent, personal and moral being can
create an intelligent, personal and moral being.
if that is true then why are so many people in the world immoral? God who created all mankind 6000 years ago created perfect beings with speech and morals rape, pillage and plunder others.
>>1875697
hehe maths or bad english >Evolution is lie

>> No.1875754

>>1875746
What better pitch to the lost could there be than this amazing truth: God will be glorified, whether it be through our eternal, ceaseless worship of Him in Heaven, or through the mighty, fearful, and wonderful demonstration of His great power and majesty, when the full wrath of the Living God is forever poured out upon the lost in Hell. Their continual never-ending torture will serve as an eternal sign of God's great justice.

No matter what, God will be glorified. Every knee WILL bow. It is up to the lost as to in what manner they will be participating in God's glorification.

Praise God! Praise Him! Praise Him for all His mighty works!

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1875756

>he still trolls athiests

>> No.1875757

>>1875740
Atheism is the lack of believing in Deities, or supernatural things. Rebirth is one of them

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>>1875721

Creationist logic is not evolving obviously. New arguments? pfffhahahahaha

>> No.1875761

>>1875744
Look, if god doesn't real, then who wrote the Bible? Darwin?
Christians: 1
Atheists: 0

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1875765

>>1875756
>Yeah hahaha we'd never get with someone who does that what a loser!

>> No.1875769

>>1875754
Is it me or is he starting to sound crazy.

>> No.1875770

>>1875758
the Shroud of Turin is the evidence you seek that proves that His Son was born as a man, existed as a man, lived as a man, was tempted as a man, was tried as a man, was convicted as a man, was crucified as a man, was buried as a man, and resurrected as God Almighty.

>> No.1875773

>>1875761
Troll are you even trying.

>> No.1875774

Steven Weinberg summed religion up best:

"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

>> No.1875776

>>1875765
Not so many years ago, I felt sexually assaulted by every sensually dressed woman I saw. I wasn’t particularly defeated by it but it was a continual, wearying battle. There is sure to have been a natural element to this. It is God’s intention that women flout their bodies solely within the confines of holy matrimony. If only more Christian women would let God remove carnality from their lives!

>> No.1875777

Attn: Christians, If Christ was so holy then why is he dead?

>> No.1875782

>>1875740
Stealing jokes from a joke thief?
I can't even think of a fitting analogy for that.
No stars.

>> No.1875783

>>1875774
Decency is just a way how to act. And not be a fucking asshole.

Yes I do act better than you, because you're not a gentleman. You're a douche who has no disregard for others. You are a cunt, and you are below me.

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>>1875770

>> No.1875789

>>1875777
For our sins, filthy apostate.

>> No.1875790

>>1875754
If God is good why would he create a man to exist with the knowledge at his inception that he would go to hell?

>> No.1875794

>>1875783

If you act better than me, then why reduce yourself to calling me names? What happened to the morals that you learnt from studying the scriptures?

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1875798

If your alleged and mythical god is all-knowing and all-powerful, then why is he such a fucking pussy little coward and won't show his face to anyone?

Godfag status:
[  ] Not told
[ ] Told
[ X ] FUCKING TOLD

/thread

>> No.1875803

>>1875789
haha thats rite checkmate u dumbass athiests 2 billion christins vs 500 million athiests = CHRISTINS WIN

>> No.1875806

>>1875709

My heritage is German, but I live in America, so if I came from Germans, why are there still Germans in Germany?

>> No.1875807

>>1875798
Relax! You're an athiest! The cock only crows three times when you renounce Jesus, not when you renounce your non-belief. Remember, a Christian has to answer to God at the end of the day. You don't have to answer to anyone! Isn't that why most of you folks rationalize yourselves into being nonbelievers in the first place?

>> No.1875810

>>1875790
If god isn't real, how do you explain Adam and Eve?

I'm so sick of you elitist atheists thinking science can explain everything. Your logic is flawed.

>> No.1875813

>>1875790
Oh, I don't know...I firmly believe that God has a sense of humour,, He might just see the funniness in it!

>> No.1875815

>>1875794
I don't know about you but I didn't evolve from any ape. Man was created by God in His own image. God spoke creation into existence. This is the God I believe in anyway. You have more of a chance at finding a winning lottery ticket on the ground everyday for 10 years than that of the 'Big Bang' theory being true.

>> No.1875817

>>1875810

Troll a little more subtly next time

>> No.1875823

>>1875807
ANSWER THE QUESTION OR GTFO FAGGOT

>> No.1875825

>>1875803
majority opinion of plebs does not determine facts about the universe
at one time, most people on earth believed that the earth was flat. did that make it tru?
enjoy your child rape cult.

>> No.1875831

>>1875817
There ya go...speaking to things of which you have no real grasp. The Bible IS Truth. It is ALL true, for if one thing in it is a lie, then it is ALL a lie.

>> No.1875841

>>1875831
We already know it's all a lie. Like every other religious text.

>> No.1875844

This thread is not really interesting, because OP is not even trying to troll properly, and is using stupid arguments on purpose.

But at least >>1875681 made me discover Conservapedia, and I've got to admit that it's hell of funny.

>> No.1875846

>>1875841
Why don't u believe? If ur one of those scientific thinkers I can give u a few scientific LAWS that prove Gods here. I mean how can u look at our world and our universe and say a thing of nothingness exploded and our world was here. Everything points to a creator Especially the universe.

>> No.1875850

>>1875815

Thanks for ignoring my questions, not only do you have no morals, you are also ignorant.

I have some news for you: you did evolve from an ape. You are the distant cousin of a chimpanzee. The earth was not created 6000 years ago. There were dinosaurs. The majority of the Bible was made up in order to influence people and bend them to do the will of others.

>> No.1875853

>>1875846
I haven't read all the comments on here but I did read a handfull of em' and was quite disturbed by the lack of belief in Jesus Christ. Your comment was right on the money and I couldn't have said it better myself. I would rather believe and then be disappointed to find out that He doesn't exist than to not believe and find out that He does! Hell is a real place and I once read a quote that I will always remember.... "Earth is the only hell christian will ever know. However, earth is the only heaven a non-believer will know. "

>> No.1875854

>>1875850
i always wondered: back in medieval times, knights & dragon slayers??? Y wouldn't the 'dragons' be dinsaurs???

>> No.1875859

>>1875831
Really? so every book that did not make it into the catholics bible in which was copied and edited into all other bibles is false or not worthy of being with your other divine books? Can you truly know if any of what is written is supreme fact and all those that came before this book was compiled that called themselves Christians did not reach heaven? If you cannot know, then you cannot make a statement like you just did. If you can know please tell me how without using faith, as the only place I see that I need faith is in the book which you still haven't proven as fact.

>> No.1875864

>>1875846

Your comments on here have pretty much proven to everyone here that you don't even have the foggiest idea what evolution actually is (the big bang too). All you're doing is quote mining and setting up straw man arguments. The only reason this thread is being bumped is so people can laugh at how stupid you are. Enjoy the lower middle class faggot

>> No.1875869

>>1875859
This country was founded by men and women who left England so that they could have the freedom to practice CHRISTIANITY apart from the Church of England. It was NOT founded so that everyone could have the freedom to worship the "god" they choose.

>> No.1875870

>>1875854

You didn't wonder that, you just heard Kent Hovind say it.

The dragons that were depicted in medieval times looked nothing like the dinosaurs that existed 65+ mya. You look at a 150 foot sauropod and tell me it looks anything like the fire breathing snakes with wings that were drawn

>> No.1875871

>>1875864
why does the universe bother to exist, or why it came into existance? We all know how.Conclusively show me that without the existance of God and I'll believe that there isn't one.

>> No.1875874

>>1875869

Why don't you take some time to brush up on US history before you say any completely false things about it like that again

>> No.1875877

>101 posts

Stay classy, /sci/.

>> No.1875883

>>1875870
If science claims that one species changed into another, then that simply means they do not know what a species is. Because the Bible clearly says that God created 'according to their kind'.

>> No.1875884

>>1875853
Sigh. This is your argument:
> It's better to believe in God just in case
Stock reply to this foolishness: What about just in case Allah is real. Should I be a Christo-Muslim? What about just in case Zeus is real? How do you know which religion to believe in /just in case/?

I know this is a troll, but meh, just seems too obvious.

>> No.1875885

>>1875871

It took Stephen Hawking hundreds of pages to explain this, and you want me to wrap it up in a few sentences? Fuck you, go read a god damned science book, I'm not your fucking teacher

>> No.1875886

>>1875884
Atheist, Was it your liberal education, your parents, or just your own?

inner desire to do what ever you please with no consequences or repercussion (spiritually) that led you to turn your back on the God of your ancestors.? Just asking.

>> No.1875888

>>1875883

This has absolutely nothing to do with the quoted post. When you're done sucking your priest's dick you should go do some god damned research

>> No.1875891

>>1875883
>Because the Bible clearly says
shit nobody cares

>> No.1875897

>>1875886

I did my undergrad in biology and went on to LECOM med school where I graduated in 4 years and now I'm training to be an opthamologist. So it's pretty safe to say that I'm smarter than you, you dumb shit

>> No.1875899

>>1875888
You're saying dragons evolved from dinosaurs.

>> No.1875901

>>1875883

Have you read The Origin of Species? Are you allowed to?

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>>1875885

>Hawking
>Wrote a Book
>Defying Christianity

And look at him now.

>> No.1875904

>>1875897
Liberal education, then. Look, the theory of evolution is just that, a theory. It has not been proved and it never will be. There is no need to investigate this topic using "science" when it is clearly answered in Genesis. Furthermore, science is a manifestation of the devil fabricated to undermine God and his beautiful gift to all mankind. My advice to you my Christian brother is: Love your god and your country in that order and never doubt the decisions of either.

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>>1875902

>Richard Dawkins
>Wrote a Book
>Defying Christianity

And look at him now.

>> No.1875907

>>1875901
The greatest impediment to learning is thinking you already have all the answers. No thinking person still believes in Darwinian evolution.

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>>1875904
>My advice to you my Christian brother is: Love your god

mmmmkay

>> No.1875911

>>1875902
dats wat happen to all the infidels

>> No.1875914

>>1875899

No you fucking retard. Dragons never existed. They were a manifestation of some of human's greatest instinctual fears all put into one mythical animal (snakes and birds of prey), and when dinosaur and mammalian bones were unearthed by uneducated idiots, the legend of the dragon was born

>> No.1875915

>>1875831
>bible is ALL true
>not one bit of it is a lie
mark 16:18. test your theory.

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>>1875906

Do you see what I see?

>> No.1875920

>>1875904

It has been proved, beyond any doubt. Decoding of the human genome has shown recent evolution in humans: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0308_060308_evolution.html

>> No.1875921

>>1875886
If you can answer my question logically and convincingly without resort to dogma, I will answer yours truthfully. Basically your question is this, though: Why aren't you superstitious like dumbfags who lived before you?

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>>1875904

Mfw
>Doesn't know what a theory is

>> No.1875923

>>1875918

And he's only 18 years old.

Sad, what it'll do to the body.

>> No.1875927

>>1875921
I don't need dogma. once you accept the story of jesus, anyone can know that he is clearly the Lord and Saviour. and because of this his word is fact.

>> No.1875931

>>1875922
>>1875920
Interestingly, evolutionary atheists find it difficult to deal with the fact that an EVENT either occurred or did not occur. For example, Jesus walking on water. It either 1) occurred 2) did not occur

If it did not occur, then gospel writers either 1) lied 2) hallucinated
However a difficulty with 2) is that mass hallucinations not possible. So this leaves you with option 1) i.e. gospel writers lied.

The other option is that the walking on water did occur. I believe this.

There is no scope for evolution from nothing here. Clear logical reasoning shows these as the possibilities.

In another thread, one guy denied Jesus ever existed. That is a convenient way out. But that still implies gospel writers lied.And historical evidence destroys the claim Jesus never existed- I wonder what other historical figures that poster denies, and why?

>> No.1875938

>>1875927

Oh man, if you aren't a troll then I've got no hope left for humanity

>> No.1875940

>>1875938
That's the beauty of Heaven... we can leave our brains behind.

>> No.1875941

>>1875915
FUCK YOU YOU NON-BELIEVING HETHAN!!!!!

>> No.1875944

>>1875931

I think that Jesus existed, but he was a confidence trickster and led people to believe what he said. The argument for the existence of Jesus has nothing to do with evolution, you are using something out of context. Evolution goes against the theory of creationism. How come so many christians are now using the term Intelligent Design? Do they doubt their own texts?

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>>1875941
someone is mad.

>> No.1875948

>>1875940

If heaven is filled with brainless retards like you, I'd rather rock out in hell with Dio.

>> No.1875961

>>1875948

Fuck yeah, I'll listen to Holy Diver while taking the lava slide down to the pools of magma way before I'd go to heaven with a bunch of retards. At least cool people will be there, like Einstein and Carl Sagan

>> No.1875966

>>1875944
Atheists have the freedom to not believe, but they do not have a right to do so. Only truth has rights. Big difference.

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>>1875948
>>1875961

>> No.1875974

>>1875966

If arrogant statements like that don't call upon the wrath of the Ban hammer, what will?

>> No.1875975

>>1875961
Why would Sagan or Einstein be in hell?

>> No.1875980

>>1875975

Do you really even need to ask that?

>> No.1875982

>>1875975
They didn't glorify the name of the LORD, heathen.

Lol

>> No.1875984

>>1875980
Do you even need to ask if I need to ask?

>> No.1875988

>>1875982
How do you know they don't now?

>> No.1875994

>>1875988
Because god(s) don't exist. Your silly religion is no more special than the thousands that came before it.

>> No.1875998

>>1875988

Because they're dead

>> No.1876002

>>1875974
Also, considering the vast mass of humanity have held religious beliefs, both in the past and today, suggest that atheism is the abberation, not faith. It suggests that belief is normal, and that one would have to be “indoctrinated” in order not to believe.

>> No.1876006

>>1875938
lmfao
Teh guise post:
>I don't need dogma. The answer simply is [insert dogma], so you must believe.
But have hope, their numbers are waning. It will take more generations for a fair chunk of humanity to emerge from the voluntary ignorance of their forebears, but scientific evidence is getting harder and harder to refute. We don't have to eradicate religion in our lifetimes; we just keep promoting science and clearthinking and the associated benefits, and we just keep pointing out the flaws in religious dogma and the dangers of submitting mindlessly to cant.

>> No.1876007

>>1875998
>implying the soul isn't immortal

>> No.1876012

>>1876002

Also, considering the vast mass of humanity have not had cars, both in the past and today, suggest that cars are the abberation, not running 30 miles a day. It suggests that running 30 miles a day is normal, and that one would have to be “indoctrinated” in order not run 30 miles a day.

>> No.1876014

>>1876007
>Implying souls exist and immortality isn't childish and arrogant.

>> No.1876015

>>1875994
prove it

>> No.1876018

>>1876006
The existence of God is so plainly obvious, unbeliever. Frankly it's hard to miss.
No matter what, God shall win in the end.

>> No.1876020

>>1876002
Appeal to tradition, eh?

>> No.1876021

>>1876015
He doesn't have to, the burden of proof is on you. You cannot prove a negative.

>> No.1876025

the fuck is going on in this thread
>atheist vs. atheist trolls

>> No.1876026

>>1876014
>implying souls an immortality isn't an obvious fact of life that has been obvious and well-known for thousands and thousands of years, with Pythagoras and Thales at the beginning of western civilization, and withe the Egyptians before them.

>> No.1876029

>>1876025
lolyes

>> No.1876030

this thread is carrying the biggest flag saying im a troll
and yet everyone fell for it

>> No.1876033

>>1876021
LMAO. The burden of proof is on the moron who said "god(s) don't exist". Prove it motherfucker.

>> No.1876036

Other "advantages" of being an atheist
There is no objective moral right and wrong so you can:

1) Rape women and laugh about it to your friends

2) Kill children just for the fun of it

3) Have sex with animals

4) Kill millions of people because they are a different race or are religious

5) Lie

6) Cheat

7) Steal

8) Murder

9) Kill babies and call it abortion and dehumanize those being killed

10) Cheat on your wife and abandon your own children

If atheism is true and there is no objective right or wrong then the above actions can never be wrong; they can only be a personal opinion of a person, culture or society. If there is no God, then there is no justice for those killed and no consequences.

>> No.1876053

sigh

>> No.1876069

>>1876036
Exactry.

brb raping aborted fetuses

>> No.1876090

>>1876033
Couldn't be a more obvious troll if you tried, which it looks like you did.

>> No.1876097

>>1876090
Keep in mind that I am not up to a vexation with a person who knows nothing about metaphysics and thinks that life comes from a stone!!

>> No.1876100

>>1876036
>Other "advantages" of being a christian
There is no objective moral right and wrong so you can:

FTFY

>> No.1876104

>>1876100
God is VENGEFUL. Haven't you read that? "It's a FEARFUL thing to fall into the hands of the living God."

So for those who turn their nose up at him? He doesn't just feel sad and rejected and let you walk away. He blinds you, leads you to the edge of a cliff, and then Jesus comes up from behind and pushes you over the precipice.

>> No.1876135

>>1876104
i am not blinded.
i am not falling off a cliff.
your point being...?
does god not have the power to "punish" me? or is he not as omnipotent as people say he is? Maybe he is a coward? i am not feeling any of his "divine justice" at all.

my views are
a: he doesnt exist
b: he has not the power/ he isn't omnipotent
c: he is malevolent and does not punish evil
d: he isnt a god/he doesnt care for us anymore

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>this thread

>> No.1876289

if god is so powerful why does he need us to worship him?