/sci/ - Science & Math

i think suicide is the best way to die. what's a better way to die than by your own hand, not someone else's, or by a disease, or even time. you decide when to die. hmmm i would say OD on sleeping pills or just jump of a really tall building.

Wear several pairs of socks.

a. you plan on commiting suicide
b. religions say suicide is wrong
c. ergo you arent religious
d. ergo no afterlife
e. ergo you experience nothing after dying
f. any pain will be temporal
g. you never feel anything again


seems to me you would want the process to be as painful as possible, if you aren't going to experience anything ever, ever, ever, ever again, wouldn't you want to shoot for the most insane, mind-shattering experience w/ no repercussions afterward as possible?

a gun

>>1853879
cause you do have some chance of not dying and waking up afterward, possibly in horrible agony

Moralfag here, but I do know a bit about suicide.

>>1853855
Either of those can prove to be incredibly painful or have other seriously displeasureful repercussions if they don't end up killing you, so I can't really recommend anything foolproof that you can get over-the-counter. Outside of those parameters, I do hear that inhaling copious amounts of Helium is a relatively quick and painless way to go.

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>>1853889
Oops, I meant
>>1853866

>>1853874
...cause he'll get beat to death?
clue me in, never heard this before

>>1853879
I'm not trying to make this into a giant extravaganza, I'm simply just sick and tired of being on this planet. I don't really want to make things more difficult for the clean-up crew than they already are.

>>1853889
really inhaling large amounts of anything that isn't oxygen or some form of acidic or caustic gas is a pretty good way to go. Carbon monoxide is one of the most efficient it actually bonds to your red blood cells in place of oxygen.

>>1853897
Yeah, but copious amounts of CO2 can prove to be quite painful before passing, so if OP's looking to go as easily as possible, He is the way to go I'd say.

>>1853897
Bonds to the heme groups irreversibly, but where do I get the required amount?

What about freezing to death? Wouldn't you would lose feeling as you die?

>>1853899
You're on the goddamn internet, order some why don't you?

>>1853899
incomplete combustion of hydrocarbons

"Bigoted on the topic of suicide?"
>wtf_am_i_reading.xls
But seriously don't even contemplate it. Anyway, what's so bad about being here?

>>1853901
It'd Start off really painfully, and I'd have that more than unlikely chance of being revived in the future when life is actually worth living.

>>1853893
Human beings need oxygen, but that's not the only chemical they need. They also need nitrogen and argon in their bodies in order to live. According to the law of biosubstantialism, different organs process different chemicals and feet just happen to be the chemical processor of nitrogen. By wearing several pairs of socks, the plasma count in our blood is decreased, and within hours, you will be dead.

>>1853907
Well OP, if you're going to go and off yourself, at least let your body be a use to science or medicine. Are you an organ donor by chance?

>>1853901
yeah, but getting to numb can be painful. And it can be a long process. Also somewhat uncomfortable. If you do go that way I recommend you get nice and intoxicated while your at it. Also Make sure you do die cause having your dick frozen off and losing most of your skin is a bad way to wake up with a 72 hour psych hold

>>1853913
I'm A SCIENTIST AND I AGREE WITH THAT POST!

>>1853915
>>1853907

What about really cold water? You're only supposed to last 2-3 minutes. Ice bath with salt anyone?

>>1853898
carbon MONoxide, CO, not CO2

>>1853905
Well lets see, where will I begin. First off, who isn't actually sick of living on this planet? All these societal rules and expectations just to live a mundane life. I'm tired of all the rigorous work and bullshit just to suck up to some jack-off for money, degrees, or whatever else. Unfortunately escape elsewhere at this point is impossible so suicide is the next best option.

>>1853896
I will never understand this reasoning. If it's really that simple (or basically that simple) then you might actually have a chemical imbalance preventing you from experiencing happiness/pleasure or something. Maybe what you think is happy is just 'marginally less shitty' or maybe even all the way up to 'indifferent' because your entire scale consisted of negative numbers.

Waterboard yourself with Liquid Plumr. It will be the most badass suicide the world has ever seen.

>>1853924
Low temperatures can increase the possibility of revival for hours after death. And that number just keeps growing, as we begin to more and more understand the methods of cell death that come from the revival process, the death itself is fairly non-traumatic. Also seriously I do recommend you get an insulated drysuit speedo, just incase, frostbite on your dick sucks.

>>1853855
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>>1853925
Apologies. My reading comprehension appears to be terrible.

>>1853933
>'marginally less shitty'
Isn't that happiness in a nutshell? Who is actually happy living under these circumstances?

>>1853930
What do you mean by "escape?"

>>1853943
Getting off this hunk of rock.

>>1853933
Chemical imbalance implies such a thing as a "chemical balance" but such a construct would be arbitrary, essentially all you're doing is trying to use pills to decrease the spread of the bell curve. Fuck that, there is no right way to feel about the world, and happiness bought at a pharmacy is nothing but delusion.

>>1853946
So you feel as though there is literally nothing on the Earth to keep you interested in living life for longer than you want? Earth is the most interesting place in the Universe that we can get to. Any place you could reasonably expect to get to with conventionally available spaceships or whatever would be dead and even lonelier than where you are now. There is so much to do here, so much prospect and possibility.

>>1853956
>there is no right way to feel about the world
There is a wrong way though, seeing it as paradise. Earth is nothing more than paradise lost, and now we're struggling to make things right. Unfortunately, I think we are far from seeing that in our lifetime.

>All these societal rules and expectations just to live a mundane life.
He thinks he has to live up to somebody else's expectations.
Maybe it would be better if he didn't get the chance to reproduce.

Also, highly suspect troll now, that reasoning is far from sound to anyone who knows to come to 4chan.org/sci/ for useful advice on suicide (and knows they'll get it) and that CO bonds specifically to the heme groups or whatever.

>>1853942
Fucking me. I don't know what country you live in, but in murrika, life is grand right now. No job, no college degree, renting a house with bunch of other people, and loving being alive. Having internet access is a huge plus, of course.

...maybe I have a "chemical imbalance" to be happy all the time. I'm okay with this. pic related

>>1853970
It may be no paradise, but it is no proverbial "hell" either. Either way, OP's obviously made some bad decisions in his life, and as such he's contemplating suicide here, and there's [probably] not much we can do to change his intent.

And I reiterate: are you an organ donor OP? If you're going to follow through with your selfish ambitions, don't be selfish about your leftovers, I mean goddamn.

>>1853970
Just gonna give up? Wuss out?
>life's hard, I can't take other people having opinions about me
Have fun not being remembered. Oh wait, you won't, you will be physically incapable of having any sort of emotion resembling fun.

I also think it is worth noting that there is a difference between "happiness" and "contentedness", the latter of which I find to be a far superior feeling.

>>1853965
I'm ok with loneliness. In fact that's why I'm sick of this place, too many people. And not a single bloody piece of land untouched by a government or military force. At least no authority has claimed land on an asteroid.

>>1853988
Well...you could always stake out a life for yourself in the frozen tundras of northern Canada and Russia. I can imagine that it'd be pretty interesting, to say the least. Not too many people there, if naught else.

>>1854000
Yeah death by Grizzly is pretty bad ass

>>1853979
Why should I be selfless for the needs of such a selfish species?

of course this would be the first thing i see when on /sci/!

>>1853988
Hypothetically, if you were to go to a place without any other people around, what would you do? Also, why do you care about governments/militaries?

>>1854000
>frozen tundras of northern Canada and Russia
Thus proving my point of there being no land on this rock that isn't owned by some fucked up government.

>>1854002
because you're a fucking negative nancy who brings sane people down all they, so you deserve to at least give back for all the people you've made feel shitty

>>1854014
antarctica

>>1854002
Are you like that fucking Discovery Channel "humans are terrible, aminals are much better" guy a while back?

>>1854017
Don't be stupid there are no bears in Antarctica.

>>1854015
But they made me feel shitty first.

>>1854023
Why are people so terrible?

>>1854021
No, humans are animals.

>>1854022
what
>>1854023
so normal happy people made you feel shitty?
you need fucking meds, man

>>1854012
I'd be free, truly free. None of this bullshit half-assed freedom people have in the west.

>>1854023
"But Jimmy punched me first!"
"I DON'T CARE LOUEY YOU'VE STILL GOT DETENTION"

Just because other people may treat you like shit, that doesn't give you the right to do the same to others. How old are you, twelve? Really, just kill yourself already.

>>1854027
I think you only need to look out the window from time to time to answer that.

>>1854033
What do you mean by "freedom"? You have much more freedom around other people than you would just by yourself, in that you can do many more things when you're around people than you can if you're alone on a barren wasteland.

>>1854035
Did I say my intentions were to make things more difficult for people coping with their lives? No.

>>1854039
What do people do that you find morally objectionable enough that your only solution would be to remove yourself entirely from their company?

>>1854033
Why don't you name something specific that you want to do but can't, and we can go from there?

>>1854043
You really believe that don't you? So try to light a fire wherever you please and see if the police will let you. At least a barren wasteland lacks the authority necessary to stop you from doing it.

buy small helium canister
put plastic bag over head
fill bag with helium
quick unconsciousness and death

Internet website fourchan pushes 12-year-old to suicide, details at 11.

...what language is this captcha?

>>1854052
It's got nothing to do with morality. I just want to be alone with no one to be accountable to but myself. Every bit of land on this rock requires me to be accountable to its governing body by taxes or whatever.

>>1854060
>fireplace
>candles
>grill
>matches
>cigarettes

People light fires all the time. What the fuck is your problem?

>>1854060
You want to die because you want to be a pyro and the police won't let you?

OP, if you're not a troll, and you haven't already tried therapy and medication, you need to do that first. Exhaust all these options before resorting to this.

Hopefully you'll get some help or at least find a painless, effective way of killing yourself if you're actually going to do it. Good luck either way.

I'm sorry to see you go if you do go... because I had a valid reason to kill myself... but my life did eventually get better when I found the right therapist and medication and made drastic changes in my life. You deserve to find out if that's possible first before this last resort.

If you're really going to do it... google "suicide tourist".

>>1853899
car exhaust

start car
put end of hose in exhaust
put other end inside car
sit in car

>>1854074
You could always become an illegal immigrant. Ever consider that? (considering you never get caught, that is)

>>1854060
We burn things all the time. Indoors and outdoors. We occasionally have bonfires for no good reason other than to burn whatever is flammable and we don't want. We light fireworks, drink, w/e.

If 'anywhere you like' is your term for arson then yeah, you can probably an hero and nobody would miss you, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

>>1854075
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>>1854093
I was referring to a bonfire.

>>1853866
If you care about the cleanup crew, then you care about other people. Don't do this, become a candle rather than embracing the dark.

>>1854104
Well...people have bonfires all the time. Dunno what your problem is.

>>1854107
>become a candle rather than embracing the dark.
gayest shit I've ever heard

>>1854074
You enjoy clean air and water, as well as bears not eating you when you get your mail in the morning, those things cost money, ie, taxes.

Everyone else has to live with this, why are you among the certain few that can't deal? Don't be such a pussy.

In my opinion, you should go and find perspective, if you're willing to spend money on offing yourself, go over to some poor-ass 3rd world country and help the fuckers out.
I think you'll find that you were living their dream life, and were willing to throw it all away with no regard for anyone.

You say that
>Unfortunately escape elsewhere at this point is impossible
but that's a load of bullshit. If it's your job, quit, it's not hard, if it's family, well, you're planning to fuck them over anyway, If it's a money issue, sell/rent your house/apartment (or if you are renting, just leave), sell your car (if you've got one), sell every-fucking-thing you own to get the money to fly away.

Nothing is worth killing yourself unless you're going to die soon anyway with no hope of recovery and you're living in incredible pain.

>>1854107
> become a candle rather than embracing the dark.

fag

>>1854107
BECAME CANDLE OP! PUT GASOILNE ON HED AND START FIRE TIME.

>>1854113
Not without having to go to the designated area. Barren wastelands have no designated areas, I was merely using this as a simple example.

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Death is the most terrifying thing ever because it may very well be the only thing that's permanent in the universe.

But go ahead, kill yourself, we need less people like you, people who don't understand the brilliance of life scare the shit out of me, almost as much as death, since they can take it oh so much more easily.

>>1854128
Oh yeah, because this would be a much better world if I could just go light a fire in the back seat of a stranger's car. I take it back, I hope you kill yourself, we'll be glad to be rid of you.

>>1854135
KILL ALL THOSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND

retard

>>1853855
OP listen to the mods

>>1854128
you would need to designate an area for any bonfire you would set, or else the bonfire would spread to places where you might not want it to go.

>>1854135
I never once said life isn't remarkable, in fact I find it fascinating and beautiful. But living in any society on this rock is unbearable. One way or another you are owned by the authorities of the land you call home.

>>1854155
then go live in the jungle or in africa in some unhabitated areas. There are enough of them on this planet.

No one is stopping you.

>>1854135
Any solution renders a problem temporary, a solved problem ceases to be a problem. Thus the time scale of the solution is irrelevant.

>>1854141
That's not what was said. It was more along the lines of "If you can't even think of one reason to continue your life, why should we?"

>>1854145
That would be my designation, not someone else's. But why are we taking this shitty example to such lengths? The simple fact of the matter is that as long as one lives with others there are restriction imposed on them inorder to coexist with those others. I don't want to coexist with anyone, I want to be alone.

>>1854155
Have you considered moving to a mostly isolated area? You can get a false sense of that just by living in a small town in Florida in house several miles away from it's neighboring houses. There are, of course, better locations... I'm just speaking from personal experience.

>>1854164
Yes, but really that's the pragmatic equivalent of suicide, not just cause he would end up dead in a week, but also because he would cease to exist to the world. May as well just kill yourself.

OP is pyromaniac with chemical imbalance.
People in thread all suggest either:
A. Get help/meds and you will see how dumb you were for ever contemplating suicide. or
B. An hero because you're dumb and we need less of them. (OP thinks he's part of the problem?)

But seriously, don't do it. The worst part will be that you won't even be around to realize how dumb it was and become wiser for it. It's the biggest thing you can regret because the nature of it prevents you from doing so.

>>1854164
There's really no need to even go that far. Even in the US there are plenty of vast stretches of unexplored land. Sure, you might technically live in a state, but it's not like they're going to bother collecting taxes from some moneyless asshole in the wilderness.

You could save some money and take one of those skydiving courses. Then, don't open the parachute. A beautiful way to go if you're really set on that.

Or you could just disappear. Get a car, liquify all your assets, and just go. Explore the country. Hell, explore the world. Kill somebody in a bar fight. Fuck a stranger you don't even like. Work as anything you need to get by. Invent a new name, a new past, a new future. Now that's freedom.

>>1854174
Still accountable to a government. Have to pay taxes therefore I have to go to work to make money to afford those taxes.

>>1854182
Why do you hate governments so badly?

>>1854182
Work from home and sell products and/or services online. It may take you a while to figure out what sort of business you're capable of running from home, but I'm just saying it is possible.

>>1854180
When owing money is the issue there is no length they wouldn't go to get it.

>>1854182
>therefore I have to go to work to make money to afford those taxes

No you don't. If you move into the wilderness and have no income you owe no taxes. The fact that you don't know this leads me to believe you are underage. This whole thread was probably started in response to your parents grounding you or something similar. Take a look at some of the people who live outside of your comfortable little suburb and you might realize that you don't have it so bad.

>>1854191

You're kidding, right?

>>1854191
But what money would you owe? Living in the wilderness, with no income, if you never buy anything what is there to tax?

>>1854191
Are you deep in debt or something? There are people who can help you with that, not just scammers on daytime TV.

Also, could you tell us your life story?

>>1854187
They are like leeches taking every drop of hardworking blood, and giving nothing back. Instead of them investing the money back to you, they snatch it away like its rightfully theirs and spend it on whatever stupid project that will fail anyway.

>>1854208
The land itself can be taxed.

can we get back to the How to suicide and away from this whole gay love in.

>>1854216
IF YOU DON'T OWN THE LAND, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES ON IT.
seriously get to /new/ and whine about the gubmint there. You'll find plenty of people who agree with you.

>>1854216
I don't know how you're not getting this, but right here in the US there is uninhabited land. If no one even knows you're there they aren't going to tax you.

>>1854219
No.

>>1854210
Not in debt, yet. Though my tuition costs are piling up. I just see no real future after I graduate, currently taking Chem and Comp Sci, but then I need to go get a graduate degree and do all this other work. Work, work, work, no play. I just want to be free, but at the same time I don't want to end up working at McDonalds.

>>1854222
If you live on the land (for a not insignificant amount of time) an no one else claims it, it legally belongs to you, unless its public land in which case you might not be legally able to live there at all, and could be fined.

>>1854213

Are you fifteen?

>>1854181
This.

Just drive down to Mexico and go crazy. Do whatever you want. Steal shit, murder people, do drugs, fuck hookers, join the mafia, whatever.

You'll have some amazing experiences, and almost certainly end up getting yourself killed along the way. If by some chance you end up surviving, you just might find that life isn't as shitty as you thought.

>>1854238
I wish I was, then I wouldn't know how bitter life really is, itd all be teenage angst.

why does his life story matter? he's depressed, depression isn't a logical thing.

>>1854252
Again I don't think life is shitty. Instead I think how we are forced to live in society is shitty.

>>1854257
I don't see how depression is any more logical than wanting to be alive. Both are just emotions, what you do with yourself doesn't matter.

>>1854257
Depression, not quite. I'm more overwhelmed than depressed.

>>1854182
>terrible chain of logic
This is why everyone thinks you're dumb.
No one enjoys the monotony of everyday life, so we don't really follow it. We just pretend to when people are looking.

Stop being so dense.
Stop being such a pussy.

>I want to be alone.
>I want to be
>I want to be
Good work team
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/thread pls

>>1854263
Well, my suggestion works for that, too.

If you hate living within the bounds of society so much, become a criminal. If you want to light fires, or not pay taxes, or ignore the law, then just do it. If you're willing to die, the authorities have no hold on you. They have nothing to threaten you with. If cops try to arrest you, shoot them. The worst that can happen is you getting killed, and you already seem willing to accept that fate.

>>1854283
And you see why you're bigoted.

>>1854287
I don't want to cause problems for people coping with their shitty situations in society, that would be hypocritical. I just want out. I'm not the guy that will crash a party just because I'm not having fun.

>>1854290
Bigoted against ignorance when combined with stupidity?
Guilty as charged. I'm out, you /sci/ducks don't waste too much time on this underage troll, you've got bigger and better things to be discussing/doing.

>>1854253

Then do what I fucking said here >>1854181
Goddamn, man. If you're really that fed up with the world, fight it. Just fucking go out there and fight it. Your problem is not a lack of freedom, it's a lack of passion. There's no will to fuck, to steal, to run, to destroy, to kill, no drive at all. You don't need to kill yourself, son. You're already dead. What you want to do is start. fucking. living.

Don't like the government? Haul your ass down to a third world country with practically unexisting governmet. Problem solved.

So fucking get out there and start some shit.

>>1854287

Don't encourage this guy to be a violent criminal. If he's going to off himself I'd rather he do it quietly than take a useful member of society with him.

>>1854299
Nobody else is having any fun either. Deep down inside, everybody knows the world is fucked up, and wants out.

Have you ever seen Fight Club? Be that guy.

>>1854299
So you want to make any decision you want, while still allowing others to do the same?

how much money do you have? If I knew I had to die, I would spend it all one way or another

>>1854317
Ideally yes, though I realize its impossible if we live with each other. Therefore the only likely way of accomplishing that would be to live alone.

>>1854313
Okay you know Tyler Durden isn't the damn hero of the story, he's the villain right? Cause I'd hate to think you missed the whole damn point of the movie cause you were to caught up in the adolescent thrill/homoerotic undertones of the movie.

>>1854310

Don't worry. If he does end up turning to a life of crime he'll be dead within a week of trying to play badass. C'mon. Read what the guy's writing. He's a whiny little shit. He just doesn't have it in him.

>>1854310
I have no intentions of wiping out anyone aside from myself. No level of encouragement will change that.

>>1854336
But you can do so many more things when you're around other people. The point of a government is to guarantee the rights of all people to live as they choose to live, so long as they don't hurt other people. There are reasons why taxes exist, and laws.

>>1854341
Even pathetic faggots can kill people. See: every school shooting ever.

>>1854341
Sure I'm whinny, but at the same time I'm not willing to suck people off for a living just to live a mundane life.

>>1854339
>homoerotic undertones
More like autoerotic undertones, bro. Or did you miss the part where Tyler Durden is the same person as the protagonist?

>>1854347
fine be a faggot, see this is why no one likes you. Here we are trying to be nice and set you up with a way to at least be cool in death, and you just spit in our faces. I'm insulted and hurt, and I just don't know why your mother didn't raise you better. Can't die in a blood bath like a man. Additional generic peer pressure.

>>1854352
To keep the government in place. But I want to solely fend for myself, I don't need a government looking over my shoulder for that.

>>1854360
Not everyone at the fight club/project mayhem was the same person though.

>>1854362
>Can't die in a blood bath like a man

I'm not the OP, but if i was going to die in a bloodbath "like a man", I'd rather try to play Batman than the Joker.

OP here,
What are you reasons for taking it in the ass everyday just to live in society?

has OP ever had a psychedelic experience? i recommend a hefty dose of lsd to show you how amazing it is that you are alive and conscious.

>>1854380
Both batman and the joker are men though, and I get the feeling that OP is too whiny, and probably out of shape, to make a good dark knight

>>1854347

Good. Whatever. Fine by me. You're still not getting the message, you dense motherfucker.

We're not telling you to go out there and fuck that hooker named Marie that lives three blocks down form the videoclub, she'll change your life, man. No, what we're fucking telling you is that if you're so unhappy with your life, you should do whatever the fuck you want without regards for what others think. You're as much a part of the society as anyone else, and if you want to see change, then change.

It's not fucking magnets, son.

>>1854364
Earlier in the thread someone suggested you go disappear into the forests or something. if you really think you can fend off bears and snakes by yourself, and gather food without other people, go do it instead of posting in this thread.

When I die I want my body to be fed to bears and wolves.

>>1854364
Your actions will always affect another person's life. Move to some hippie commune or something.

>>1854381

No reason, in particular. But the idea that there might be a reason is better than just dying and never having any purpose at all, except as a burden to others.

>>1854391
Haven't tried d-lysergic but I have tried Salvia.

>>1854381

I...don't? I have problems with the way society works, too, but instead of killing myself i just choose not to follow the conventions I disagree with.

>>1854404

pffft. get some acid, shrooms at the least.

salvia is stronger than either, but it only lasts a fraction of the time; not long enough to get in touch with your own consciousness and the universe and shit.

>>1854381

What makes you think everyone posting in this thread is "taking it in the ass everyday just to live in society"? Do you think everyone you meet has an existence as bland and miserable as yours?

>>1854417
Not as miserable, but just as bland maybe they sugar coat it to seem like its a bit sweeter than it really is.

>>1854417
It's a matter of how they choose to see it. I've never met anybody who couldn't be miserable about their life with a little dedication. It's a lot of time and effort to be depressed, but that doesn't stop some folks.

>>1854381
>What are you reasons for taking it in the ass everyday just to live in society?
Because I'm not really "taking it in the ass" to live in society. Life is pretty good for me, and there isn't much that I want to do that society can stop me from doing.

Basically, I know that life outside of society would be a lot less pleasant for me than life within society. If I went to live off the grid in the woods somewhere, I'd lose more than I'd gain.

>>1854381
Hope.

>>1854408
What if those conventions are a requirement to succeed?

>>1854432
And what do you hope for?

>>1854429
Lucky for you. How did you achieve this?

>>1854424

You're the OP, right? This kind of dumb shit is why I'm still not convinced you're not fifteen. Have you spent your entire life in comfortable suburbia? I'm sure you've never met anyone that was too different from you.

Son, I'm thinking you need to get out more.

>Get PhD in mathematics
>300k starting
>work for a year to pay off loans, another year to have 300k surplus
>quit your job
>use 300k to fly somewhere cool, do awesome shit, don't worry about taxes or nothin

Hey, OP.
Cheer up, emo kid.

>>1854440
Hope that one day all of the work I've put in to my life, all my studies, all my experiences, will lead to a piece of happiness. Hope that I will be able to live as I want to live, of and among humanity. Hope that I can help people, hope that I will do something more than be another cog in the great wheel of society.

Hope won't get me far, but sometimes it's been the smallest trickle of water in an otherwise barren desert. I've kept going. Don't give up.

>>1854458
Funny thing, I never lived in the suburbs. I moved around a lot when I was younger; lived in Europe, Asia, and now in North America. I got a chance to see how people live around the world from when I was 4. And in westernized countries its the same mundane bullshit - go to school, get a job, start a family, work, spend, pay taxes, die. I'm sick and tired of this mould. I don't want a family and I don't want to be someone's slave till the day I die.

>>1854480

You're looking for [/r9k/, /adv/]. Unfortunately, this is /sci/.

The quickest, painless way would be to shove a needle through your pupil of your eye.

1.There are no nerves in the interior of your eye
2.You will die instantly when it pierces your brain

>>1854491
Actually I was looking for a over-the-counter method to kick my bucket. But you guys started getting into the details of why I'm tired of living.

I don't know about america but you can get books that will tell you the lethal dosage of various medications. Just don't go too far over the lethal dose lest you vomit and fail.

the more you know

>>1854498
>>1854500
lol i gave you perfect solution then. ps take pics/vid

>>1854498
Because we don't want you to die. Call a suicide prevention hotline.

>>1854480

You just stated what's making you miserable. Don't like the western world? Get the fuck out of it. Don't want a family? Don't have one. You might have all the experience in the world, but you're writing as an overemotional and misunderstood teenager.

And don't do the needle in the eye thing. You'll just end up with slight to sever brain damage. If you gotta die, just get a gun and shoot yourself. If you do it right (none of that gun in the mouth stupidity) you won't even notice it.

don't do it op, you have so much to live for

but if you do - take your dick out, turn on porn and hang yourself. It'll look accidental and your family will at least get some life insurance money.

>>1854504
I appreciate that, but what's my life worth to you? I don't think I'm worth the compounds that I'm made out of.

>>1854509
I'm not singling out the western world here, don't get me wrong it's better than the alternative.

>>1854526

Motherfucker, is nothing good enough for you? The governmet oppresses you, but the barely governed third world is too low for your tastes? What's the minimun requirements for buying a gun where you live?

>>1854509
okay this is bad /adv/ I guess that's why we're in /sci/

gunshot wound to the head, if not lethal gives you brain damage. don't do it.

hanging yourself is excruciating because asphixiation sucks. similarly drowning yourself is the worst death possible.

come to canada where you can freeze to death? nop
burn yourself so at least you stop feeling pain after the nerves are destroyed

the few deaths that are quick and easy aren't easy to pull off - head on the train tracks, shotgun blast to the temple, or my earlier suggestion to take lethal doses of over-the-counter drugs.

cheers

>>1854542
Is it too much to ask for a tiny piece of land with no flag?

>>1854551
most landmasses are owned, if not all. move to sealand and be a seaman.

>>1854516
Life is priceless, at least lives lived consciously are priceless. You still have time to live. Live.

You still there? Seriously, don't kill yourself.

>>1854627
You guys got me to the point of contemplating why not? Having trouble coming up with reasons though.

>>1854638

Suicide is permanent death, but this depression phase you're in is only temporary. In a few weeks or months, you'll be out of this phase and happy to be alive. Of course, since you're in a depression right now, it's hard to think that far ahead, let alone what being content feels like. OP wait it out and it'll be worth it.

>>1854551

Grow a pair and take one for yourself.

>>1854668
I really appreciate your input but I've waited out depression before, only for it to relapse. It's cyclical, and I don't think I'll ever be able to pull myself out of it.

>>1854686
Get help. There are people better able to help you than randoms on the internet. Considering you're in college, there should be some program there, where you can go get help.

>>1854686

Then get help. Seriously. You have nothing to lose from seeking psychological help, especially since you're considering the last possible option anyways. Better off trying than not trying at all.

>>1854686
Get help and find things that you enjoy in life. You're on the internet right now, go find something that makes your life enjoyable and worth living.

>>1854686
Don't kill yourself. You are so close to attainable immortality.

>>1854686

I support the motion that you get help, son. One day, this might all be nothing but a distant memory, but you'll never know that if you kill yourself. Are you seriously willing to give all that up? All the small pleasures in life? A chance at happiness?

>>1854705
>>1854706
This is why /sci/ is way better than /adv/. I come here looking for a method for taking my own life, I get that and rational arguments to why I should try other solutions.

>>1854723
>>1854722
>>1854719
included in - >>1854724

>>1854706
>>1854719
Seriously. Go try shit to make you feel better. Anything is better than killing yourself, and shit, if it doesn't work, you can always kill yourself anyway, but at least you tried. You gave it your best, so you're not a complete failure - although, if you really try to find fulfillment and happiness in your life, you'll probably get it.

tl;dr: If you're going to die, don't fucking die a quitter.

Fuck, OP, quit being such a whiny beta-male bitch.

The only person you have to blame for a mundane life is yourself. Grab like by the haunches and fuck it. Right in the ass.

>>1854758
I never said I didn't make a mistake. But one cannot completely neglect the fact that our environment plays a huge role in in our decision making.

>>1854770

How do you expect the environment to change if you give up without trying to contribute to the change?

Nothing is going to fall into your lap. You have to take it.

>>1854775
>Nothing is going to fall into your lap.
Not quite sure about this one. For some lucky pricks out there everything has been served on a silver platter to them since birth. Born with good genes, predisposed to do anything, into a wealthy family, etc.

>>1854783

I never said anything about THEIR laps; we're talking about YOUR lap here.

Nothing's going to fall into YOUR lap. If something had, you wouldn't be posting on 4chan about committing suicide.

>>1854798
Yeah I get it, life us unfair so we all gotta play the cards we're dealt. This is exactly the kind of shit I'm tired of putting up with.

>>1854811
>>1854783
You only have to deal with it now. Just wait.

easy, painless, and will impress your friends and family with how intelligent of a suicide method you chose!

>>1854811

If you're tired of putting up with it then deal with it, or just off yourself already.

This is what you don't understanding OP. What do you think you're going to accomplish by attempting to get attention on an internet message board? How will that change our world faster and easier than if you just went outside and did what you wanted to do?

I know it sounds corny as fuck, but everyone says it for a reason. Be the change you want to see in the world.

There is only one thing you can count on, and it's yourself. That's the number one rule everyone must learn when adjusting to the world, and everyone who survives swears by it.

>>1854859
I came here for a method that I can use to off myself, not to change the world. The changes I would like to see aren't ever going to happen.

>>1854905
I wish to know, what are the changes in the world you'd like to see?

>>1854905

And how the fuck do you know that?

>>1854905

>The changes I would like to see aren't ever going to happen.

Not if you have that attitude mang.

>>1854915
Just a landmass with no flag, or authority presiding over it. Somewhere I can live and not be bothered with societal annoying expectations, rules and responsibilities. A place where real freedom, not this half-assed western version, exists; and where I don't have to be enslaved just to live a boring norm of a life.

Swallow something that will kill you, then place the barrel of a pistol on the roof of your mouth. Don't shoot through the temple! Believe it or not, its still possible to miss that way. Then, on the highly unlikely event that you are still alive, whatever it is you swallowed should kill you.

Happy suicide! Come visit 4chan again if you need more advice!

>>1854945
Basically you want to be a hermit?

>>1854925
Most people will kneel down to authority. Very few are truly willing to fight for actual change. With that said, this system will continue because it's majority rule.

>>1854959
Yes, no accountability to anyone but myself.

>>1854945
What if I told you this would be fully possible within the next hundred years?

>>1854979
Great, I'll be dead by then even if I outlast a normal human lifespan.

>>1854985
>implying existing as a brain in a jar piloting a robot won't let you survive for multiple hundreds of years at minimum

>>1854969
Pretend to be religious if you aren't and go to Mount Athos.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Athos
But go to an actual therapist first.
Anyway being a hermit is better than killing yourself.

>>1854945
Do you mean you're looking for a lawless anarchist state? Because that sounds like what you're going after, and you'd be hard-pressed to find one anywhere near your location. Might want to look into that matter.

>>1854985
...You're not on /sci/ much are you?
http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/forever-young/manhattan-beach-project-end-aging-2029

>>1855001
Actually, this board is the only reason I have to visit 4chan.
Manhattan beach and this so called "singularity," sounds like nothing more than wishful thinking. And lets say human life is extensible, how much will that cost?

>>1855000
Not anarchist per say, but rather a state where I'm the only citizen.

>>1855017
I believe the Singularity is bullshit. However, it now seems to be that aging actually isn't that hard to cure. It's only been recently that we've actually even started looking into it seriously using modern science etc.

And firstly it will be very expensive, but over a decade it will go down in price TREMENDOUSLY. It is more profitable for pharmaceutical companies to make it affordable to the most people possible.
If it's 'too expensive' then I honestly will be really surprised. And many, many pissed off aging people will be rocking up to these places most likely with crowbars demanding lower/subsidized prices for it. Could you imagine the shitstorm today if a CURE FOR AGING came out on the market? Never look a day older than 22....

Get professional help.

>>1855018

Get rich and buy an island. Ta-da!

>>1855049
>get rich
Easier said than done.

>>1855031
So when is this project expected to complete? Given that it doesn't go bankrupt, will it even be within our lifetime? And seeing as it cures aging, if I'm an old fart, given I don't off myself b4 then, will I continue to look and feel that old till a truck or spaceship squashes me?

>>1855098
>So when is this project expected to complete?
By 2029.
>Given that it doesn't go bankrupt,
Pffff-haahahahahah no chance of that. There are a few millionares pumping a fair bit of funding into it that are scared of death/want to see the far future.
>if I'm an old fart, given I don't off myself b4 then, will I continue to look and feel that old till a truck or spaceship squashes me?
From what I've understood reading all the articles, every cell regenerated after this treatment would be what you body produces at it's finished prime, i.e. just after puberty at around the age of 20 - 26.

>>1855057

Well, there's a life goal. You can go having lived your entire life miserable or you can try and make the last years of your life absolute joy.

OP should go to research labs that need observers to be put in mortal danger. That way he could get all the technical advice he really needs. Die in the name of science. DO IT FAG.

>>1853855
Everytime I give the answer, some anal Mod comes out of the woodwork and deletes the thread. But imma keep doing it. Find a sealed room, or your car/truck. Buy canned air, or nitrous. Pop them all open, let it fill the interior. You will black out, but will be too high to care, then you will die from lack of oxygen but you will feel nothing. Dentist are famous for this type of suicide.

>>1855599
Oh and even god can't revive you if you're in a room filled with toxic levels of everything but oxygen. Fun huh? =D

triangle choke or any blood choke.

you feel slightly uncomfortable and then u fall asleep.
thats why they call it the sleeper hold etc.
blood flow has COMPLETLY STOPPED TO YOUR BRAIN and instead of ur brain going crazy telling u its in pain, it kinda just goes to sleep. Its completely painless, and after ur unconcious keep doing it for another 20 seconds and you'll die.

carbon monoxide btw, also great i just wanted to bring up blood chokes cause they are so surprisingly painless.

>>1853855
fixed

xkcd is gay

>>1854074
Holy shit faggot, go watch Into the Wild. Or read some Jack London.

Yes, property is owned by governments, and as a citizen under that government, you're in agreement to respect those property laws.

Renounce your citizenship, live in the woods or in the Northwest territory in Canada. A government owns the land, but you don't have to respect those property laws. Just go live there, the population density is so low nobody would ever know you were there. In northern Canada there's thousands of square miles of pristine land.

Nobody'd ever find you, nobody'd ever care if they did find you, and you could live out your life without ever seeing anybody ever again.