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>> No.1850865

Einstein was a Jew, he should be shit tier.

>> No.1850867

Hey, why isn't Flippenko on your list?

>> No.1850870

trollface.jpg is at least top tier

>> No.1850872

fucking hipster.

Everyone thats in color is on the bottom.

>> No.1850873

Shit tier and jew tier: everything

>> No.1850874

>Heisenberg in mid tier
>Leibniz in low tier
Your list on general is pretty bad, those two stood out for me though.

>> No.1850875

Suggesting Friedrich Nietzsche, Sigmund Freud for Shit or Low tier and Carl G. Jung for Troll tier.

Also, requesting names with small print under photographs for googling interest and more success of that image.

>> No.1850879

>>1850875

Yeah... I don't recognize most of them. If they had names tags I could contribute... Without Google

>> No.1850882

can only name 1 person in the top tier................................................................................................
....................................................wtf don't hurt me. who r they?

>> No.1850883

>>1850859
>feynman above heisenberg, galileo, kepler and descartes.

that picture better be a "my personal favorite scientists" or op is one of the stupidest persons to have ever lived, and most likely american.

>> No.1850886

>Sagan in Low Tier
at least mid tier you retarded fuck

also, who are the first and last in troll tier?

>> No.1850888

Leibniz and Newton need to be switched.

>> No.1850889

>>1850886
Why the fuck would Carl Sagan be in mid tier, you dumbfuck? He didn't do shit. He belongs in the shit tier alongside Michio Kaku, the black guy should be brought down a tier too.

>> No.1850893

>>1850882
Einstein, Darwin, Newton, Tesla, (don't know), Aristotle

>> No.1850894

>Leibniz
>low tier

Newton fan spotted.

>> No.1850899

Galileo in Low Tier? Are you fucking trolling?

>> No.1850901

>>1850889
>the black guy should be brought down a tier too
>no mention of Dawkins, who never did shit other than trolling, either

>> No.1850902

>>1850883
Feynman always had good PR with press and he had social skills much needed in all of the home parties so often held in upper middle class (which uni profs were back when they had high wages) circles of 1960s California, thus everyone he met thought he was a great guy. He also knew a lot of math and was a good teacher, so people naturally exaggerated his achievements.

So to sum it up, you're correct in that he's overrated, but it's a perfectly human psychological phenomenon to overrate him so OP ain't no dumbfuck.

>> No.1850906

Edison should be in shit tier too. He sold Tesla out for money.

>> No.1850908

>>1850893
thats bohr

>> No.1850912
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>>1850908
What? You mean this guy turned out so bad with age?

>> No.1850915

Here are all the names:

God Tier: Einstein, Darwin, Newton, Tesla, Bohr, Aristotle

Top Tier: Kelvin, Weinberg, Russell, Planck, Feynman, Bacon

Mid Tier: Hawking, Susskind, Pasteur, Mendel, Edison, Heisenberg

Low Tier: Dawkins, Tyson, Sagan, Galileo, Leibniz, Brian Cox

Shit Tier: Kepler, Kaku, Lysenko, Collins, Mengele, Descartes

Troll Tier: Lennox, Behe, Troll, Hovind, Pope, Gene Ray

I don't feel like editing the pic right now though.

>> No.1850917

>>1850889
he made science beautiful to the general public and inspired a generation of astrophysicists. i don't know any other person that's come close to that.

>> No.1850921

>>1850893
uh, god tier is easy... i got all of those... top tier, however, i've got nothing :/

>> No.1850925

Dirac not in God Tier, or any tier even?

>> No.1850927
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>>1850915
>gene ray

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn2UCqL5qyo

FFFFFFFUUU-

I didn't know that stupidity hast just become stupider

>> No.1850942

>>1850915
Why is Kepler shit and Copernicus isn't even on the board? Also missing Watson/Crick, Schrodinger, Dirac, and FUCKING MAXWELL.

>> No.1850943
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>>1850921

Doesn't know Weinberg and Russell.

>> No.1850946

I'd like to see Gauss and Faraday on there somewhere.

>> No.1850950

>>1850943
I love how you picked out the least well known in that row, Mr Troll.

>> No.1850960
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1850960

more accurate

>> No.1850967

>>1850946
fuck yeah gauss

IM BLUE
ARE YOU?

>> No.1850970

>>1850960
>Descartes
>Top tier

Are you high nigger?

>> No.1850978

>>1850960

Mengele deserved Low Tier in your opinion.
So Mengele is in a higher TIer than Dawkins, Sagan, Tyson and Cox?
You are a horrible person.

>> No.1850979

>>1850970
you probably don't even know who descartes was or how fucking important were his contributions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Descartes

go read a little you biased little kid, who do you think were/are the most important scientists of history? those who appear on tv and write pop science books or those who actually made discoveries and changed mankind?

>> No.1850982

>>1850979

I am studying philosophy you retard. Descartes was a Dualist faggot and didn't do shit for science.

>> No.1850985

>>1850979
He was hugely important in some math concepts that, today we take for granted, so I can forgive him to some extent, but the fact remains that his attempts at philosophy ended up in several massive failures.
If it were up to me in making this list his philosophy failures would knock him down at least one tier from the top.

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>>1850960
>Leibniz and Descartes higher than Aristotle

wtf am I reading?

>> No.1850991

>>1850978
you people are not understanding, this is not a favorite scientists rank, this is a contribution to mankind rank.

mengele did actual experiments (brutal and with lack of ethics to human rights but yet they were scientific experiments, i'm not supporting the way he did them i'm just saying he actually did research) during WWII with POW, meanwhile, Dawkins, Sagan, Tyson and Cox have only written pop science books and tv shows for laymen, but not one single major breakthrough.

>> No.1850992

>>1850960

Also Hawking higher than Susskind. The reverse is true. Susskind handed Hawking his ass to him.

>> No.1850993

what exactly did mengele even contribute to science?

>> No.1850994

>>1850991

I thought it was a list about how talented these scientist are/were. Mengele simply put humans into conditions that killed them and then wrote down what the human body can endure....yeah I could have done that too - anybody could.

>> No.1851000

>>1850991
Mengele didn't actually discover anything, he was just a sadist. Survivors even said he rarely took notes He was just doing for the lulz, not science. Ishii of Unit 731 actually did something, sold his research to the US, and was never punished.

>> No.1851003

>>1850982
>and didn't do shit for science.

>Descartes was a French philosopher, mathematician, physicist. Descartes' influence in mathematics is also apparent; the Cartesian coordinate system—allowing geometric shapes to be expressed in algebraic equations—was named after him. He is credited as the father of analytical geometry. Descartes was also one of the key figures in the Scientific Revolution.As the inventor of the Cartesian coordinate system, Descartes founded analytic geometry, the bridge between algebra and geometry, crucial to the discovery of infinitesimal calculus and analysis.Descartes' theory provided the basis for the calculus of Newton and Leibniz, by applying infinitesimal calculus to the tangent line problem, thus permitting the evolution of that branch of modern mathematics.Descartes created analytic geometry, and discovered an early form of the law of conservation of momentum (the term momentum refers to the momentum of a force). Descartes also made contributions to the field of optics. He showed by using geometric construction and the law of refraction

Absolutely.

>> No.1851004

>>1850991

If it is about contributions then Collins should be higher. Decoding the human genome is a huge contribution in my book.

>> No.1851005

>implying Hovind is not top tier

>> No.1851012

>>1851005
Implying Gene Ray isn't God Tier.

>> No.1851019

>>1851003

Two can play that game:

>Bacon has been called the father of empiricism. His works established and popularized inductive methodologies for scientific inquiry, often called the Baconian method or simply, the scientific method. His demand for a planned procedure of investigating all things natural marked a new turn in the rhetorical and theoretical framework for science, much of which still surrounds conceptions of proper methodology today.

>> No.1851021

>>1850992
hawkings and feynman did write pop science books but they also made major breakthroughs in theoretical physics. hawking mainly in astrophysics concerning the entropy of black holes and the paradoxical quantum principle of the hawking radiation which desobeys the laws of thermodynamics which also lead to the possible existance of micro black holes, hawking may even be awarded a nobel if micro black holes are observed in the lhc during the next years. feynman did major contributions for quantum field theories, specially chromodynamics and quantumelectrodynamics.

they, unlike sagan, cox, tyson, kaku, dawkins actually found out something.

>> No.1851026

>>1850986
aristotle was mainly wrong in many things concerning physics.

>> No.1851028

>>1851021

What does that have anything to do with Hawking being higher than Susskind?

>> No.1851030

>Tesla in god tier
>Leibnez in low tier

laughingwhores.jpg

>> No.1851031

>>1851026

Nobody else on the list could do what Aristotle did during the time in which he lived with the resources he had.

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fixx'd

>> No.1851036

>>1851026

And Leibniz view about physics wasn't fundamentally flawed either? Monads anybody?

Buttom line is that Aristotle laid the foundation for the development of a scientific methodology. That makes him the most important figure for science out of all the philosophers.

>> No.1851038

>>1851033

But you broke the rules. Not six people per row.

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>>1851033
>Dawkins god tier
>Sagan top tier
>heisenberg, galileo, leibniz low tier

>> No.1851043

>>1851033

No. I don't get it. wat?

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>> No.1851065

>>1851043
Dawkins? Atheism? "god tier"? geez guize, trying to make a joke
btw i regard dawkins as mid tier not god tier, i aknowledge he has made no contribution to biology or science profoundly but he has made a very good impact on theology of millions, causing people to ask questions, and question religion, i believe he amongst many others that helped with what I'm going to call "the atheist revolution" that has been happening in mainly the last 20 years

>>1851042
yes sagan top tier, why shouldn't he be


-i've also added schrodinger to top tier.

>> No.1851071

>>1851064
who the hell is that?

>> No.1851072

>>1851071
Diogenes of Sinope

>> No.1851073

>>1851043

Dawkins

God tier

DURHURR RICHARD DAWKINS DOES NOT BELIEVE IN GOD, HENCE THE TERRIBLE PUN.

Also not the complete retard who posted it.

>> No.1851076

>>1851073
somebody is mad

>> No.1851078

>Diogenes was one of the few men to ever publicly mock Alexander the Great and live. He intellectually humiliated Plato and was the only pupil ever accepted by Antisthenes, whom he saw as the true heir of Socrates.

>. He became a disciple of Antisthenes, and made a virtue of extreme poverty, famously begging for a living and sleeping in a tub in the marketplace. He became notorious for his provocative behaviour and philosophical stunts such as carrying a lamp in the daytime, claiming to be looking for an honest man. He regularly argued with Plato, disputing his interpretation of Socrates and sabotaging his lectures. After being captured by pirates and sold into slavery, Diogenes eventually settled in Corinth, where he was befriended by Alexander.

>The stories told of Diogenes illustrate the logical consistency of his character. He inured himself to the vicissitudes of weather by living in a tub belonging to the temple of Cybele. He destroyed the single wooden bowl he possessed on seeing a peasant boy drink from the hollow of his hands. It was contrary to Athenian customs to eat within the marketplace, and still he would eat, for, as he explained when rebuked, it was during the time he was in the marketplace that he felt hungry. The most scandalous of these activities involves his masturbation in the marketplace, to which he responded he wished it were as easy to relieve hunger by rubbing an empty stomach. He used to stroll about in full daylight with a lamp; when asked what he was doing, he would answer, "I am just looking for an honest man."Diogenes looked for a human being but reputedly found nothing but rascals and scoundrels.

>> No.1851084

>>1851036

>hey guys, there are four elements which all try to return from where they came. So rocks (earth) fall to try to get back to the ground, and rain is water trying to get back to the sea.
>good scientist

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1851085

Needs more Bill Nye.

>> No.1851089

>>1851084
>durrr guise dun forget the aether.. dun forget the aether guise

>> No.1851095

>Descarte
>Shit Tier

WHAT.

No, seriously. What? Cartesian space is pretty much the biggest breakthrough in geometry since Euclidean space, a two thousand year gap.

Also am I not seeing Kurt Godel in that but Bertrand Russel is in there.

This list is fucking retarded

>> No.1851105

>>1851064
Cynicism is low-tier philosophy.

>> No.1851107

>>1851095
tell me about it. as far as i can see most people in this board are highschoolers who loves sagan because of cosmos and dawkins because of his atheism. they have no detailed nor general knowledge of history of science at all.

>> No.1851117

>>1851105
agreed. hedonism is much better

>> No.1851118

>>1851095
>Bitching about Godel
>Paul Motherfucking Dirac hasn't been on one of these lists in any tier
Get your priorities in order.

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Updated. Everybody happy now? :3

>> No.1851152

>>1851064
What's the name of this guy?

Masturbating in the middle of the streets and yelling out batshit insane stuff is pretty badass.

>> No.1851156

>>1851150
Eh, I'd personally swap Leibniz and Galileo with Edison, but that's more of an opinion rather than a glaring omission.

>> No.1851157

>>1851033

Kepler developed the wine barrel, HE IS A GOD!!!

>> No.1851170

>>1851150

We won't be happy until you stop being a lazy ass and put in the names.

>> No.1851172

>>1851152
diogenes of sinope. he also intelectually humiliated plato and mocked alexander the great in person and survived, even alexander said afterwards that if he weren't alexander he would like to have been diogenes.

>> No.1851177

>>1851170

That would make the picture look horrible and confusing.

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>>1851177

>> No.1851183

>>1851182

Here are all the names:

God Tier: Einstein, Darwin, Newton, Tesla, Bohr, Aristotle, Gauss, Dirac

Top Tier: Kelvin, Weinberg, Russell, Planck, Feynman, Bacon, Faraday, Gödel

Mid Tier: Bill Gates, Susskind, Pasteur, Mendel, Edison, Heisenberg, Maxwell, Schrödinger

Low Tier: Dawkins, Tyson, Sagan, Galileo, Leibniz, Brian Cox, Attenborough, PZ Myers

Shit Tier: Kepler, Kaku, Lysenko, Collins, Mengele, Descartes, Franklin, Freud

Troll Tier: Lennox, Behe, Troll, Hovind, Pope, Gene Ray, Ken Ham, Allah

Do it yourself.

>> No.1851184

I don't see Albert Michelson anywhere. Einstein totally stole his shit. Come on, really? One guy does the research, the experiment, & the equations, and then just a minuscule amount of time later, some other guy just happens to come up with a slightly re-arranged version of it and says it was his?

>> No.1851188

>>1851184
You best be trolling, especially if your rationale hinges on Einstein only being known for special relativity. Because there's this thing called the "photoelectric effect" you may have heard of.

>> No.1851209

Here are all the names:

God Tier: Einstein, Darwin, Newton, Tesla, Bohr, Aristotle, Gauss, Dirac, Kepler (he developed the fucking wine barrel)

Top Tier: Celsius, Weinberg, Russell, Planck, Feynman, Bacon, Faraday, Gödel

Mid Tier: Bill Gates, Susskind, Pasteur, Mendel, Edison, Heisenberg, Maxwell, Schrödinger

Low Tier: Dawkins, Tyson, Sagan, Galileo, Leibniz, Brian Cox, Attenborough, PZ Myers

Shit Tier: Kaku, Lysenko, Collins, Mengele, Descartes, Franklin, Freud

Troll Tier: Lennox, Behe, Troll, Hovind, Pope, Gene Ray, Ken Ham, Allah

>> No.1851212

>>1851188
You're correct (on both counts, good sir), but I never said Einstein shouldn't be there. I'm just showing my support that Michelson should. It's also true that people were scrambling to make sense of the Michelson-Morley experiments before Einstein actually did so. I say Einstein was influenced by Michelson's work; the man deserves a spot.

>> No.1851225

>>1850859
>Sagan in low tier
Giving the "normal man" science means a lot to me.
>edison in mid tier
he didn't invent shit
also r/ring who troll tier guys are

>> No.1851227

God Tier: Voltaire, Einstein, Darwin, Newton, Tesla, Bohr, Aristotle, Gauss, Dirac, Kepler (he developed the fucking wine barrel)

Top Tier: Celsius, Weinberg, Russell, Planck, Feynman, Bacon, Faraday, Gödel

Mid Tier: Bill Gates, Susskind, Pasteur, Mendel, Edison, Heisenberg, Maxwell, Schrödinger

Low Tier: Dawkins, Tyson, Sagan, Galileo, Leibniz, Brian Cox, Attenborough, PZ Myers

Shit Tier: Kaku, Lysenko, Collins, Mengele, Descartes, Franklin, Freud

Troll Tier: Lennox, Behe, Troll, Hovind, Pope, Gene Ray, Ken Ham, Allah

Forgot Voltaire.

>> No.1851233

>>1851212
Ah, I see. Methinks I agree, in that case.

>> No.1851244

Edison is responsible for everything that is wrong with science today--software patents, overpantenting, patent litigation, ensuring the survival of corporations over the survival of advancement...

He doesn't deserve to be in any discussion of science. He used money and influence to destroy real scientists and made his living on the backs of brilliant people.

Never mention him again.

>> No.1851247

>>1851244

Fine I swap Edison with one of the lower Tiers. Any suggestions?

>> No.1851253

dawkins in troll tier next to pope

darwins in low tier

edison in low tier as well

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Here is a picture of Edison burning an animal alive slowly and painfully with electricity just to spread FUD about Tesla's technologies.

The elephant suffered greatly for a couple of minutes before finally succumbing to the electricity. It thrashed and writhed in pain so that Edison could continue collecting fat paychecks and patenting everything under the sun.

>> No.1851280

>>1851270

BAWWW, Dumbo died!

Eat shit, PETAfag.

ITT opinionated housebound virgins judge Thomas Edison's achievements.

>> No.1851283

God Tier: Voltaire, Einstein, Darwin, Newton, Tesla, Bohr, Aristotle, Gauss, Dirac, Kepler (he developed the fucking wine barrel)

Top Tier: Celsius, Weinberg, Russell, Planck, Feynman, Bacon, Faraday, Gödel

Mid Tier: Bill Gates, Susskind, Pasteur, Mendel, Heisenberg, Maxwell, Schrödinger

Low Tier: Edison, Dawkins, Tyson, Sagan, Galileo, Leibniz, Brian Cox, Attenborough, PZ Myers

Shit Tier: Kaku, Lysenko, Collins, Mengele, Descartes, Franklin, Freud

Troll Tier: Lennox, Behe, Troll, Hovind, Pope, Gene Ray, Ken Ham, Allah

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>>1851270

better?

>> No.1851286

>>1851280
ITT people think trial and error science is an "achievement". Edison was the embodiment of a stopped clock being right twice a day.

>> No.1851287

>>1851284
>Kant troll tier
I approve

>> No.1851288

>>1851284
I can deal with this. But I really think the TV scientists deserve better positioning. They may not be the greatest scientists, but I am 100% sure they will spark the interest of people today who will become those great scientists.

>> No.1851295

>>1851244
Amen ... if you believe in that sort of thing.
>>1851270
What additional proof does one require? Drop that smelly beast of a man down a tier.

>> No.1851301

>people think trial and error science is an "achievement". Edison was the embodiment of a stopped clock being right twice a day.

2/10

>> No.1851303

>>1851280
Edison was an expert on stealing patents. He had a big corporation under his command and branded everything low-paid technicians invented under his own achievements.

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Perfect version.

>> No.1851316

>>1851309
Immanuel Kant was a scientist?

>> No.1851319

>>1851309
Nice one with Alan Turing. Not that I agree with all of the additions.
Out of curiosity, what have you got against Ben?

>> No.1851320

>>1851309
Kant is purely troll tier, other than that looks good.

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>>1851286
>ITT people think trial and error science is an "achievement"
Implies that empirical science is shit

>> No.1851326

>>1851286

Reread what you just wrote.
Examine the scientific method.
Shit bricks.

>> No.1851330

Descartes should be top teir 'cus he seems like a cool guy

>> No.1851335

>>1851319

He is like MW2 or Halo. Totally overrated. Not his fault but out of spite I put him in shit tier anyway.

>> No.1851340

Where's Fermi?

>> No.1851342

>>1851330

Descartes was a dualist idiot who thought that we have a strange organ in our brain that is home of the soul and that animals have no consciousness and that I am think therefore I am.

>> No.1851344

>>1851340

right there in god tier. >>1851309

>> No.1851365

>>1851326
>Reread what you just wrote.
>Examine the scientific method.
>Shit bricks.
“If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found the object of his search.
I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor.”

"He had no hobby, cared for no sort of amusement of any kind and lived in utter disregard of the most elementary rules of hygiene" and that, "His method was inefficient in the extreme, for an immense ground had to be covered to get anything at all unless blind chance intervened and, at first, I was almost a sorry witness of his doings, knowing that just a little theory and calculation would have saved him 90% of the labour. But he had a veritable contempt for book learning and mathematical knowledge, trusting himself entirely to his inventor's instinct and practical American sense."

>> No.1851371

tyson?
since when was mike tyson a scientist?

>> No.1851387

lol'd hard at the entire troll tier

>> No.1851405

Overall these charts made me think but there is so much I could point out...I'll just point out the major flaw: Darwin above Bacon.

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aristotle doesn't belong to the list - archimedes does

>> No.1851419

>>1850859
don't forget

Al-Jazari
Alhazen
al-Khwārizmī

>> No.1851424

Shirō Ishii should be in the list instead of mengele

>> No.1851427

Dawkins, Sagan = Galileo

OP confirmed for troll

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Tn2Ll3Swo

>> No.1851519

>>1851309
>Euler in the mid tier and not in the god tier.

Euler and Gauss are tied as the greatest mathematicians of all time.

>> No.1851525

why the fuck do you all hate michio kaku soo much?

>> No.1851544

>>1851525
>why the fuck do you all hate michio kaku soo much?
>hate
>same tier with kepler, collins and descartes

hurr durr

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>Dawkins, Sagan, Tyson, Cox
>Anywhere on the chart.

>> No.1851561

>>1850982
he came up with the x , y graph
the laws of refraction and more
You dont have any idea what your talking about

>> No.1851592

>Eddison as mid-tier

OP is a huge faggot.

>> No.1851612

>>1850859

>Galileo at low tier

Crazy geocentricist detected.

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>>1850859

Most people on this picture aren't on the list.

list is confirmed-for-shit-tier

>> No.1851778

>philosophers in anything but shit tier
>wtf am i reading

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No Gauss?
He's overgod tier