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1835807 No.1835807 [Reply] [Original]

So why do you think we haven't discovered aliens yet?

I want to think that we'll be the first race to colonize the galaxy, but of course we've got a lot to do before we're at that point.

>> No.1835808

because every other country on earth sucks compared to the USA at space travel so they will never get anywhere near aliens or New Mexico UFOs ect. ect.

>> No.1835828

Aliens are hiding themselves, because they understand the limits of their understanding & their naivety. They appreciate that the universe may very well be like a real-life Cthulhu Mythos, or that the universe is filled with once-living planets which were discovered by an ineffable ancient faction.

Meanwhile, on Earth, we broadcast sitcoms to the entire universe, and beam cheesy nonsense at any star system that takes the popular fancy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Message_From_Earth

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As near as we can tell, there is no inhibition against killing another species simply because it displays a high intelligence. So, as much as we love him, Carl Sagan's theory that if a species makes it to the top and does not blow itself apart, then it will be nice to other intelligent species is probably wrong. Once you admit interstellar species will not necessarily be nice to one another simply by virtue of having survived, then you open up this whole nightmare of relativistic civilizations exterminating one another.

It's an entirely new situation, emerging from the physical possibilities that will face any species that can overcome the natural interstellar quarantine of its solar system. The choices seem unforgiving, and the mind struggles to imagine circumstances under which an interstellar species might make contact without triggering the realization that it can't afford to be proven wrong in its fears.

Got that? We can't afford to wait to be proven wrong.

They won't come to get our resources or our knowledge or our women or even because they're just mean and want power over us. They'll come to destroy us to insure their survival, even if we're no apparent threat, because species death is just too much to risk, however remote the risk...

http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/rocket3aa.htmlhttp://www.projectrho.com/rocket/rocket3aa.html

>> No.1835837

We ask that you try just one more thought experiment. Imagine yourself taking a stroll through Manhattan, somewhere north of 68th street, deep inside Central Park, late at night. It would be nice to meet someone friendly, but you know that the park is dangerous at night. That's when the monsters come out. There's always a strong undercurrent of drug dealings, muggings, and occasional homicides.

It is not easy to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys. They dress alike, and the weapons are concealed. The only difference is intent, and you can't read minds.

Stay in the dark long enough and you may hear an occasional distance shriek or blunder across a body.

How do you survive the night? The last thing you want to do is shout, "I'm here!" The next to last thing you want to do is reply to someone who shouts, "I'm a friend!"

What you would like to do is find a policeman, or get out of the park. But you don't want to make noise or move towards a light where you might be spotted, and it is difficult to find either a policeman or your way out without making yourself known. Your safest option is to hunker down and wait for daylight, then safely walk out.

There are, of course, a few obvious differences between Central Park and the universe.

There is no policeman.

There is no way out.

And the night never ends.

>> No.1835843

There are only 12 intelligent species in the universe at the moment, 11 minus us.

>> No.1835847
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1835847

>>1835808
I saved this earlier today.

>> No.1835855

>>1835847
Never ever.

>> No.1835888

Simple

We can't make the warp drive function without the proper anti-matter and matter mixture chamber, and of course dilithium, as well as pretty much everything else involved with warp travel, that's why.

Didn't you get the Starfleet dispatch?