/sci/ - Science & Math

Nice troll thread. You seem to have clicked on /sci/ rather than /new/.

>an ignorant idiot

I don't believe an idiot would actually attempt to partake in personal research or debate over this topic.

>>1778573
Exactly.
>>1778571
How's this a troll thread.

>How's this a troll thread.

Grammar troll. "isn't real" instead of the grammatically correct "doesn't real".

>>1778578
>Global warming does not real
What?

>>1778575

>exactly

I believe you misinterpreted my point. Ignorance and stupidity in combination do not provoke opinion. Unless of course you're religious or have some strange social structure that promotes pack mentality in a certain belief or even rejection of knowledge/understanding. "Global warming" does not fit this category.

>>1778581
Much bettetr!

>>1778583
Point is you're an idiot for believing it's real.
End of story.
Next thing you know you bigots are going to tell me flu shots prevent the flu.

>>1778575
Fine, i'll respond to you normally even though I'm quite sure this is a troll thread.
Carbon dioxide traps far more heat than oxygen and nitrogen.
Automobiles, industry and power generation produce a lot of this.
Every day. Billions of cars. All that electricity.
It's not hard to come to the conclusion that it's changing the composition of our atmosphere by a fraction of a percentage, which is enough to fuck with sea levels and the world climate.

>>1778591
>>1778591
It's in no way enough to create a greenhouse effect on the entire planet.
Global warming is the biggest scam in history.

>>1778600
You don't understand how air currents and heat retention work, do you?

>>1778570
True
/thread

/sci/ - gullible

>>1778602
No, in order to have greenhouse effect, you clearly need to generate enough of a greenhouse gas to cover the surface of the planet and insulate it, because that's how it is on venus and I associate venus with [all] greenhouse effects.

mfw

>>1778612
Venus is much more smaller and inferior to Earth and especially America.
>>1778602
No, YOU DON'T.
educate yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gefSwMCTjuc

>>1778612
There is quite a large difference between runaway greenhouse effect and the one we have on Earth. Temperatures have started to creep up man. I don't care if you can't see it. Can you at least concede that we should start moving away from fossil fuels to renewable energy sources?

official

>>1778618
I watched that video and only saw inane ranting.

>>1778628
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHW7KR33IQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft8LfE7AI2w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNzBRiAyn8o&feature=related
WAKE UP YOU FUCKING IDIOTS

>>1778635
>first link
>look at description
>Alex Jones
>Prisonplanet.com
C'mon man, I thought Zeitgeist: Addendum was a fairly insightful and revolutionary documentary, but stop spouting your bullshit.

>>1778645
Nice biased opinion you fucking moron

>>1778655
Have you ever watched his videos?
I have. I'm subscribed to Alex. Shit cracks me up.

>>1778659
that's because your a fucking liberal retard

>>1778659
if i ever need a good laugh david icke and alex jones are who i turn to!

>>1778667
>that's because your a fucking liberal retard
Them are fightin' words on a board like /sci/.
Cars that run on petrol and such are shit. Why are you so against changing that to something else?

>>1778673
because we're going to end up like a third world country like Brazil otherwise
fuck, what don't you get about this
it's a waste of tax player's dolalrs into the pickets of all gore for something that odesn't exist

>>1778645
>Zeitgeist: Addendum
Just watched the first 7 minutes of it. Is this some kid who just took econ 101? He's stating the fucking obvious most of the time in a tone of voice implying there's something terribly wrong with it, and the rest of the time making inane statements like, "this is terribly wrong". I can't bear to watch any more. The guy is a moron.

>>into the pickets of all gore

Half in the bag, are we?

It's OK, so am i.

>>1778681
I run my car on hydrogen which I made from electrolyzing water. It is completely free for me because I use a spare solar panel to power the process.
I run my entire house off solar, and export power to the grid occasionally. I earn a little money this way.
"IT WULD HARM OUR ECONOMYY!!!1!111" is an incredibly shit argument, for you're going to be eating your words when oil scarcity starts fucking your shit up in about 15 years.

>>1778673
AND WHERE IS YOUR LOW COST CHEAP TO MANUFACTURE ALTERNATIVE TO PETROL/DIESEL TRANSPORT? OH THAT'S RIGHT, YOU'RE JUST A FAGGOT KID WHO HAS NO UNDERSTANDING OF ANYTHING. KEEP THOSE NONSENSE POSTS COMING YOU FUCKING TRIPFAG RETARD.

>>1778683
>just watched the first 7 minutes of it
>I have opinions on it
Watch the whole thing, and then we'll talk. I was more entranced by the later stages of it than the earlier part explaining the banking system.

>>1778687
Relevant.

>>1778691
See
>>1778687

>>1778693
Hey i've been wondering, is your name Samefag or something?

>>1778694
When you post on a board where you make long arguments, it becomes convenient (to an observer, and to participants) for the arguers to be named.

>>1778694
>>1778687
I'M CALLING BULLSHIT ON THESE CLAIMS. THERE ARE NO ADR'S FOR HYDROGEN POWERED VEHICLES YET. YOU ARE OPERATING AN UNREGISTERED AND MOST LIKELY ILLEGAL IF NOT IMAGINARY VEHICLE. NICE TRY FAGGOT.

SURE IS LIBTARDS IN HERE

>>1778700
Well I have been thinking that moot changed 4chan's webcode to basically make it that it shows samefag when a person quotes their own post. When you did it to mine, that's when that idea stopped becoming viable.

>>1778702
Or maybe I bought a car originally intended to run on LPG, and then just pump hydrogen into it instead. It's not fucking hard you dipshit. It is registered. I don't know if they know it's run on something other than hydrogen though.
>>1778703
You came to /sci/, derp.

>>1778708
OH MY GOD FAGGOT. DID YOU JUST SUGGEST THAT AN LPG COMBUSTION ENGINE COULD OPERATE ON HYDROGEN? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE IN COMBUSTION REQUIREMENTS FOR BOTH OF THESE FUELS?
YOU'RE A JOKE KID.

>>1778706
No, this has nothing to do with quoting. I am a person, and samefag is my chosen name here.

ITT we disbelieve facts that go against our ideology

>>1778692
I've seen enough to have an opinion on the guy making it. That informs me to have an opinion on whether I should invest more time in his tripe, which is that I should not.

Just for curiosity I skipped forward to see what the rest was about... Chavez is a great guy... post-scarcity resource-based venus bullshit... religion is bad... boycott banks, boycott news agencies, boycott the military, boycott energy companies... oh, FFS

>>1778717
>pump the gas I make into my car
>my car runs
>my car runs exceptionally well
I don't give a fuck, it works and it works great.

>>1778721
>post-scarcity resource-based venus bullshit

>>1778691
>AND WHERE IS YOUR LOW COST CHEAP TO MANUFACTURE ALTERNATIVE TO PETROL/DIESEL TRANSPORT?
switch to alternative fuels won't be low cost, and it won't be cheap. but it's necessary, because the alternative is no transport at all.

and btw, hydrogen fucking sucks. i wish that idea would die already.

>>1778724
>and btw, hydrogen fucking sucks.

>>1778722
THANKYOU FOR ADMITTING DEFEAT. NEXT TIME TRY TO TELL LIES WHICH ARE A BIT MORE BELIEVABLE. FUCKING FAGGOT.

>>1778731
>THANKYOU FOR ADMITTING DEFEAT.
Oh glorious angry conspiracy theorist, how will you ever forgive me?
>NEXT TIME TRY TO TELL LIES WHICH ARE A BIT MORE BELIEVABLE.
No worries I'll have fun not paying a cent in petrol or LPG.
>FUCKING FAGGOT.
>UR GAY: A challenge of manhood, or an offer for fellatio?

>>1778727
- hydrogen currently comes from fossil fuels
- making it by electrolysis is wasteful
- using it as an energy storage medium is wasteful
- infrastructure for distribution would be extremely expensive
- plug-in electric car is a much more economic alternative, and the infrastructure is already there

>hydrogen currently comes from fossil fuels
wat

>>1778733
AT LEAST I PREPARED YOU FOR THE NEXT TIME YOU TRY TO TROLL WITHOUT HAVING THE PROPER BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE. DON'T WORRY I WON'T TELL ANYONE THAT YOU MAKE UP BULLSHIT ABOUT IMAGINARY HYDROGEN VEHICLES. PLEASE KEEP TELLING BULLSHIT, I APPRECIATE THE CHALLENGE IN DISCREDITING YOU. FUCKING TRIPFAG FAGGOT.

>>1778739
>- hydrogen currently comes from fossil fuels
Mostly.
>- making it by electrolysis is wasteful
I know, don't care.
>- using it as an energy storage medium is wasteful
I know, don't care.
>- infrastructure for distribution would be extremely expensive
Not unmanageable. Battery-swap stations and electric cars would be better for large amounts of people.
>- plug-in electric car is a much more economic alternative, and the infrastructure is already there
I know

I fully think that electric cars have more potential than hydrogen cars. The only thing turning me off them is the large recharge times and generally being expensive as balls.
Hydrogen does not 'suck' because electric cars can be implemented on a wider scale.

>>1778743
>AT LEAST I PREPARED YOU FOR THE NEXT TIME YOU TRY TO TROLL WITHOUT HAVING THE PROPER BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE. DON'T WORRY I WON'T TELL ANYONE THAT YOU MAKE UP BULLSHIT ABOUT IMAGINARY HYDROGEN VEHICLES.
Dude, I do. I generally don't care if you believe me or not. You're not worth explaining and proving this to. Perhaps if you spoke like a regular human being and weren't angry at everything.
>I APPRECIATE THE CHALLENGE IN DISCREDITING YOU. FUCKING TRIPFAG FAGGOT.
>GLOBAL WARMING IS A LIE
>Why u so mad and not want alternatives?
>THEY'LL FUCK UP OUR ECONOMY
>Not really. I run my car on hydrogen and house on solar, works well for me
>NO YOU DON'T
>Uhh, yes I do.
>NO YOU DON'T I KNOW YOUR ACTIONS AND LIFE BETTER THAN YOU EVEN THOUGH I'M SOME RANDOM GUY THOUSANDS OF KILOMETERS AWAY THAT JUST CAME TO THIS BOARD YOU ARE GAY

>>1778744
the point was, hydrogen sucks as a viable mainsteam alternative.
it gets support only thanks to the big oil lobby.

>>1778752
>the point was, hydrogen sucks as a viable mainsteam alternative.
It's still a good niche alternative.
>it gets support only thanks to the big oil lobby.
>only from big oil
>only

>>1778748
DON'T ME MAD AT ME BECAUSE I OUTCASTED YOUR BULLSHIT FOR THE REST OF THE BOARD TO WITNESS. I PROVIDED YOU WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO VALIDATE YOUR CLAIMS AND YOU INSTEAD OPTED TO CHANGE YOUR STORY BEFORE THEN DECIDING THAT YOU DON'T CARE WHETHER I BELIEVE YOU OR NOT. OF COURSE I DON'T BELIEVE YOUR LIES, WHO WOULD BELIEVE UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS ABOUT IMAGINARY AUTOMOTIVE VEHICLES.

THE END OF YOUR PATHETIC REPLY MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL RESULTING IN WHAT I ASSUME TO BE YOUR SUGGESTION OF HOW OUR CONVERSATION UNFOLDED. I DO NOT CARE FOR THIS SECTION OF YOUR REPLY AS IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.

>>1778766
Protip: when you use caps on the internet, other people read it as shouting, and it's annoying.
I have a car that runs on hydrogen that I make. What else do you want? I have no camera and my webcam is broken. And it's night outside. I can't exactly give you proof, nor do I feel any inclination to please or help you.

Why are you so angry, though?

HURRR global warming doesn't exist because it's bad for my wallet

>>1778806
typical libfag logic
and all conservatives are racist too rite?

>>1778809
>libfag
Well if you're anything to go by, most of them are half retarded.

>>1778779
PROTIP: WHEN YOU POST BULLSHIT SOMEONE MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN YOU WILL OFTEN DISPROVE YOUR CLAIMS. EVEN IF YOU GOOGLED FOR A PICTURE TO SUBSTANTIATE YOUR CLAIMS I WOULD STILL DISCREDIT THIS. IT'S JUST BAD TIMING THAT I WAS HERE WHEN YOU TRIED TO TROLL THIS BOARD CLAIMING KNOWLEDGE IN AN AREA THAT YOU KNOW CLEARLY NOTHING ABOUT.

>>1778809
>implying you didn't use the economy argument against global warming.

>>1778822
>GLOBAL WARMING ISN'T REAL WAKE UP SHEEPLE
>I KNOW MORE ABOUT ALTERNATIVE ENERGY THAN YOU
You're just embarrasing.

I have a car that runs on farts that I produce. I would show you pictures of it, but it's also invisible.

>>1778828
HAVE FUN QUOTING CONTENT I NEVER STATED. I'LL JUST SIT HERE WATCHING YOU DIG YOURSELF DEEPER INTO A HOLE. YOU SHOULD PROBABLY QUIT BEFORE MORE PEOPLE WITNESS YOUR STUPIDITY.

Failtip: liberals are retards seriously

>mfw OP's face right now

>>1778840
>YOU SHOULD PROBABLY QUIT BEFORE MORE PEOPLE WITNESS YOUR STUPIDITY.

>>1778847
typical libfag argument

>>1778847
IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU WORKED OUT HOW TO QUOTE PEOPLE PROPERLY. NEXT YOU SHOULD WORK OUT HOW TO TELL BELIEVABLE LIES. GOOD LUCK HYDROGEN CAR BOY.

>>1778855
Maybe you guys should like, gb2/new/?
I mean, I'm fine with you guys staying here for it's excellent entertainment, but I'm sure some other people on /sci/ don't want this crap on the front page.

>>1778862
Oh I was just laughing at how well it applies to yourself.

Inurdaes making contributions to a thread that don't just involve Phobos/being a douche? What is this?

>>1778867
YOU'RE JUST EMBARRASSED THAT OTHER PEOPLE WILL SEE YOUR FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT YOUR IMAGINARY HYDROGEN CAR.

>>1778877
Haha oh wow
>>1778875
I make many threads on /sci/ that a lot of people like that don't involve terraformation and Phobos.
As for being a douche, how am I a douche? I generally try to be courteous and not cause an absolute shitstorm of insults. This thread is the exception.

>>1778877
Right.

>>1778890
I SEE YOU KNOW HOW TO GOOGLE FOR IMAGES OF HYDROGEN VEHICLES. GOOD FOR YOU.

>>1778907
No really, I want to know why you're so angry.
Can't we all just get along?

>>1778887
You just made me realise with that post... why don't we terraform Phobos instead! Come on guys, screw global warming, let's all move to Phobos!

>ITT

>>1778913
ARE WE NOT CONVERSING ON A LEVEL YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH? ALL I DID WAS HIGHLIGHT YOUR BULLSHIT FOR ALL OF /SCI/ TO SEE.

>>1778916
>mfw I didn;t notice that that has an I can has cheeseburger watermark on it

>Conservatives
>On the science board
>mfw

>>1778916
Because MARS BIG MARS STRONG
>>1778928
I prefer more structured discussions over a coffee and a joint.

>>1778937
I DON'T MIND THE OCCASIONAL LATTE MYSELF, JUST QUIETLY.

>>1778947
I love lattes. Also why are you constantly on caps lock? Stuck key?

>>1778887
>>1778937

OH HEY LOOK
MORE LIBFAGS
GO BACK TO THE FUCKING HOLES YOU CAME OUT OF

>>1778994

So what exactly is wrong with being a libfag again?

Please give a rationale explanation.

>>1779025
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvutmrl6AlI

>>1779042

I don't like the idea of Obama's face on the 1$ bill, at least not for now, but he's better than that terminally future-shocked whore Palin.

>>1779047
>Palin
>whore
This is what libiots really believe
there's more past apperance you fucking bigot

>>1779042
I agreed with this ranting guy.
>>1779053
I would not want that bitch running any country, I would be fucking scared if that happened, let alone America.

>>1779053

>there's more past apperance
>terminally future-shocked

The planet warms itself just fine. Its arrogant to think humans have the power to stop it.

>>1779134
Oh, we know that. We just want to stop our contributions to it.

let me describe american politics from the point of view of The Rest of the World(TM)

liberals = normal people (composed of the whole political spectrum of a normal democratic country)
conservatives = extreme right fundamentalists.

>>1779143
This is actually incredibly accurate.

>>1779143
>liberals
Retards. Care too much about everything. Expect everyone else to care the same about everything. generally care about things to impress others rather than to gain self-satisfaction

>Conservative
THE WORD OF GOD DICTATES WE DO THIS

From a British perspective, I really can't decide which is worse.

James Lovelock knows magnitudes more about what's happening with the planet than anyone in this thread and is seriously concerned. I'm far more inclined to believe his opinion than trolls who are too stupid to pay attention to what's happening.

I don't know much about the Earth, but my sister works with wind currents and climate and other geographical shit, and she said at her work the Man made:Non-man made ratio is about 70:30. I've taken the appraoch where I'm not denying it's man made, but I'm not going to bother changing my lifestyle because of it.

>>1778913
>Inurdaes
>Uses a muslim pic
Ohwow.jpg

>>1779260
What part of 'Yugoslavian' do you not understand?

>>1779266
The part which precludes the fact that it is the current islamic hub of europe.

>>1779280
>your family comes from a largely muslim non-fundamentalist country
>UR A MOSLEM
Also that would be Bosnia specifically.

>ITT: People who think America has more than one political party.

>obvious anti-science troll thread
>100+ posts
>mf