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question of relativity:

say joe is moving through space in a space suit at .5 the speed of light and jim, also moving through space in a space suit at .5 the speed of light. Joe and Jim are both head in opposite directions towards one another, will Joe see Jim and Jim see Joe? Will Joe or Jim be moving at the speed of light relative to one another?

>> No.1769445

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity-addition_formula#Special_theory_of_relativity

>> No.1769446

>>1769442
They will see each other but not moving at c. You will have to use eienstien's velocity addition rule.

>> No.1769448

>>1769446
how do i plug data into the equation? (highshool fag here)
i want to see if both are traveling at .6 will one be faster than light relative to the other.

>> No.1769449

Opposite directions towards one another?

>> No.1769450

>>1769449
ehh i worded it badly but consider the two coming towards and then passing one another

>> No.1769452

>>1769450
Ah ok.
I'm not a physicist, but I imagine they are moving at 1c relative.

Thats using normal physics though, I think this delves in to relativity and special physics.

>> No.1769453

is my math right?

.6(c) = 1.8x10^8?

c = 299,792,458(.6) = 179875474.8

>> No.1769456

>>1769453
What the fuck are you doing?

>>1769445 gives you the right formula

>> No.1769457

>>1769442
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity-addition_formula#Special_theory_of_relativity
Here is the formula
v is the veloctity of one object
u is the velocity of other
c is the speed of light
and s is the actual velocity of them relative to each other

>> No.1769462

>>1769457
yes i know
where as
v= .6(c)
u= .6(c)
c= lightspeed (meters

so s= .6(c)+.6c)/1+(uv/c)

>> No.1769472

so they move at half the speed of light away from each other and the resulting reletive speed is max light speed- i would asume that any light from start of motion would therefore not be able to catch up to either viewer and the result would be each seeing a purpetual image of each other when they were last still- which of course would be traveling towards each viewer at twice their own traveling speed. but any image from each other in motion would not be able to enter the eye unless it was moving forward into it (because you are moving from it at the same speed it would be hovering still, in front of you and would either appear faint or not at all).....i guess

>> No.1769483

>>1769472
is that as ever as have gone to be going and where it all begins?