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Absoulte nothingness can't exist Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:03:37 2010 No.1760464 [Reply] [Original]

Possible explanation for existence of the universe.

How can you get something, from absolute nothingness? We have to assume that something can come from absolute nothingness. This is explained by our existence.

The universe is expanding in time, but is space/time expansion infinite? It is reasonable to assume that something with a beginning will have an end, there are many examples in the universe of this. The universe had a beginning. It went from absolute nothingness to something over a non existent amount of time.

Something expanded from absolute nothingness to create a space/time reality. The expansion was caused by a reaction. The reaction was because absolute nothingness can't exist. There is always potential for something to exist, like the universe.

Absolute nothingness is only an idea. It is the fact that absolute nothingness can never exist, that something exists.

Everything we know came from absolute nothingness..

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:05:37 2010 No.1760473 >>Continued consciousness. The End.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:06:37 2010 No.1760477 Here's an idea I call it shut the fuck up

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:06:37 2010 No.1760479 god came from nothingness /thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:07:37 2010 No.1760484 File: 32 KB, 184x299, hard-hat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1760477

>>	Anonymuos Wed Sep 15 22:08:37 2010 No.1760487 >>1760464 cool magic eye

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:08:37 2010 No.1760490 I question the basic assumption that nothingness somehow precedes or supersedes something. Time itself requires something. When was there ever nothing, and can you prove it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:13:37 2010 No.1760507 Yes, this is the standard rhetoric for why the big bang occurred. Now the question becomes, why is nothing so unstable? If there was absolute nothingness what stops it from just being and never changing?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:17:37 2010 No.1760524 There was never 'absolute nothingness'. There is always something that exists. 'Absolute nothingness' is not unstable because it doesn't exist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:21:37 2010 No.1760542 >>1760524 well, then, if something always has to be everywhere (in space) all the time, why not make it space itself? Space is why there is something as opposed to nothing, because space is something and it exists everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:24:37 2010 No.1760554 I question the very idea of nothing. I think our concept of physics is limited with us having the constant need to visualize shit, so your question means fuck all at this point.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:29:37 2010 No.1760570 Nothing =/= something. Everything = something. Therefore nothing =/= everything. QED

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Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:31:37 2010 No.1760580

There is something because, time, 3-dimensional space and matter make an environment that can evolve. There was a beginning to time because we can trace the radiation from the heat of the initial reaction of something coming into existence from 'absolute nothingness'.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:35:37 2010 No.1760595 >>1760570 Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. <span class="math">\therefore[/spoiler] a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:38:37 2010 No.1760606 I think its a simple concept to understand.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:40:37 2010 No.1760612 >>1760580 Um, no, space, matter and gravity is not "absolute nothingness".

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:41:37 2010 No.1760618 nothingness etc are all concepts concepts are just some circuits inside the human brain therefore nothingness is in fact, something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:42:37 2010 No.1760622 Yeah, forgot gravity.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:44:37 2010 No.1760628 Time does not exist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:46:37 2010 No.1760637 >>1760628 bullshit

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:50:37 2010 No.1760660 The universe came into existence from 'absolute nothingness'. Time began because, of the FACT that 'absolute nothingness' can NOT exist. There is ALWAYS something that exists.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:50:37 2010 No.1760661 >>1760637 He's right, only changes in time exist. Same with energy, it doesn't really exist, only changes in energy have any measurable effect. Neither are absolute concepts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:52:37 2010 No.1760670 >>1760637 our concept of time is severely flawed, think "god" with similar paradoxy bullshit, yes time's bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:52:37 2010 No.1760674 File: 133 KB, 500x500, 'just happened' counter.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	weird dude Wed Sep 15 22:53:37 2010 No.1760678 consider nothingness as a name and it starts to make sense

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:57:37 2010 No.1760699 File: 5 KB, 158x152, 1284582725888.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1760628 >mfw when every 12 year old on the internet says this

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:59:37 2010 No.1760705 The 'changes in time' are because the environment is able to evolve, but it takes TIME, which is real.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 23:00:37 2010 No.1760711 Isn't time just a measure or a concept used to keep track of entropy?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 23:00:37 2010 No.1760712 You have to just take it as a given, that something came from 'absolute nothingness'. It makes sense, and it is proven because we are able to observe it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 23:10:37 2010 No.1760750 As Lawrence Krauss said, "Take nothing and apply quantum mechanics, and you'll always get something." That's how I look at it. Lawrence is brilliant, and is the only one I've heard say this yet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 23:12:37 2010 No.1760758 >>1760699 Time is really not passing us by.