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Telomerase activation drug Anonymous Mon Sep 13 23:19:23 2010 No.1751228 [Reply] [Original]

what do you know about this? fact or fiction?
Discuss..

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 23:22:23 2010 No.1751236 It's a fact but there are other problems with it such as mutation and cancer risks from living longer.

Filenamefag !gzv4si5.ww Mon Sep 13 23:22:23 2010 No.1751238
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>>1751228
Look up antagonistic pleiotropy and cry me a river. Telomere degradation isn't all there is.

(No, seriously, I'm sad I can't be immortal either)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 23:23:23 2010 No.1751243 File: 80 KB, 572x404, wheelie2 copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1751238

>>	OP Mon Sep 13 23:25:23 2010 No.1751251 i know it's not a cancer cure. i don't care for a cure for cancer. cancer is not a disease. it's your cells last attempt at life. But does it work as long as you do not suffer from other illnesses

Anonymous Mon Sep 13 23:28:23 2010 No.1751261

>>1751251
In tests on lower lifeforms telomerase drugs can double their lifespan. But ultimately they wind up with out of control cancer growths because the cells never die after a normal amount of divisions like normal cells do. So the cancer just keeps growing infinitely until it kills the organism. Basically you would live longer but spend 100% of your life getting endless cancer treatments to slow down the inevitable take over by cancer.

Filenamefag !gzv4si5.ww Mon Sep 13 23:30:23 2010 No.1751267
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>>1751251
NO
I was being serious when I suggested that you look up antagonistic pleiotropy. As you age, different genes can be activated and deactivated. The newly activating genes could interact with continuously transcribed genes in new ways. The interactions early in life could be favorable, but the ones after you've expended most of your reproductive value can be detrimental, especially since these post-reproductive interactions are effectively hidden from evolution.

Here's the wiki version:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antagonistic_pleiotropy_hypothesis

>>	OP Mon Sep 13 23:32:23 2010 No.1751276 fair enough!!! live twice as long and die of cancer. i'd take the risk. i'll have twice as long to figure something else out haha.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 23:33:23 2010 No.1751283 >>1751267 Terrific reference picture there. Thanks for posting it, and if you posted the silver fox pic, thanks for posting that too.

>>	OP Mon Sep 13 23:35:23 2010 No.1751289 Yes I looked it up, but that does not mean for sure it will happen in this case. It does mention the possiblility, but nothing will ever be set in stone until the drug is observed over years and years.

>>	OP Mon Sep 13 23:39:23 2010 No.1751298 find the drug online (there might be more than one) and findreviews or side effects or something. i went to TAsciences or something, but my computer is effed and won't open links on the site. I think some solid articles would be sufficient for either side.

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