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>>1727497
Your ideas are awfully totalitarian. I hope with all my heart you will never succeed.

Your country was founded by scientists and historians.
They were the cream of the fucking crop.
It's the rest of the fags that fucked it up, slowly convincing you to sacrifice a little freedom for security.
Lol, you fell for it too. You poor, poor bastards.

>>1727507
so wait, what's wrong with my ideas?

>>1727511
OP here, what I really hate is how my society puts down people who actively try to learn and be smart and knowledgeable, and raise up in praise people who are dumb.

>Going through my History class

/sci/fags can't history

>>1727517
yeah, neither can I, but I can get the general gist of "WHAT YOU WERE TOLD IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS FULL OF LIIIIIIIEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS WE SHOULDN'T HAVE A COLUMBUS DAY HE'S A THIEVING RAPING MURDERERRRRRRRRRRR, THANKSGIVING NEVER HAPPPEEENNNEEEDDDDDD FOR MOST INDIANS, IT WAS QUITE THE OPPPPPOOSSSIIIIITTTTEEEEEE," etc

>>1727516
Picture related, right Anon?

>>1727522

Yeah, so? Plenty of historical figures are romanticized. Also only white nationalists believe in "white guilt."


>>1727529

Yeah Obama was practically carried into Harvard by the liberal US government. And get this, he doesn't even have a science degree, LOL.

>>1727529
that's a different problem.
Let's not vote for him because of what he's going to do, but because HE'S BLACK AND OMG WOULDN'T IT BE COOL TO HAVE A BLACK PREZ Y'ALL???

>>1727512
It's hard to explain it to you if you grew up in a free society. Whenever i read something along the lines of your OP text, an alarm goes off in my head.
Let me give you an example. USA is very very good at banishing their "troublemakers" with no remorse. So how's their prison system working out right now? Or are you suggesting killing them off? That would just prove my point you should never succeed.

>good
>evil

concepts made up by retards like you, leave the earth, it will be better without you

>>1727536
My Mormon friend isn't racist, at least. He preferred Obama over Hillary.

>>1727535
Either you're calling me a white nationalist (which I'm not sure what that is) or you're saying I don't have this thing called "white guilt"?

I'm in college, dude, I haven't defined myself that far yet. What I do know is I care probably way too much about what other people think about me, and if someone can say that the only reason I'm doing so well (after I graduate) is because slavery blah blah blah, well, I don't like that.

>>1727538
Give them a free ticket back to America, land of the free?
what would you do with those people?

join a tribe in africa

>you're saying I don't have this thing called "white guilt"?

read this from your post:

>if someone can say that the only reason I'm doing so well (after I graduate) is because slavery blah blah blah, well, I don't like that.

Do you know what your problem is? It's this:

>What I do know is I care probably way too much about what other people think about me

>>1727549
So if someone has a grievance with me, or if someone thinks that something is unjust, I should just ignore them?

>>1727544
try to prevent most of the stimuli that would make them a genuine troublemakers in the first place. And now we can argue about a definition of a troublemaker if you wish.

As for the most extreme measure possible, probably chemical sterilisation.

communist nation on a red planet

lol

>>1727550
>So if someone has a grievance with me, or if someone thinks that something is unjust, I should just ignore them?

No, you shouldn't ignore them. You should devote your time to debate with people who disagree with you in an intellectual manner, so that both sides may eventually concede and come upon a mutual agreement.

Why don't you go to stormfront or free republic and debate with them until you feel satisfied?

>>1727553
no god damn sterilization, jesus
I guess a "troublemaker" is someone who likes to annoy or fuck with people, who doesn't want to work but still thinks he deserves food, bullies are a good example; I don't know.

I know that laws in america are followed to the T too much and aren't followed by their spirit (i.e. why the law was placed there in the first place) as much as they should be. The law I would have is "If you're intentionally disrupting the flow of livelihood just for the lulz/fun of it, then you're getting shipped back to earth."

Of course I would be reasonable however, and take each case individually. How old is the idiot, 5? leave him be. 16? he's pushing it, give him a few chances to straighten up.

I don't like the idea of "institutionalizing" or "re-education" camps, so we're not going to try to force them to change, just to force them to leave if they can't fit in. We aren't a melting pot. We are a people trying to live without the complications and barriers that exist between people today for multiple reasons (race, etc).

>try to prevent most of the stimuli that would make them a genuine troublemakers in the first place

Over the past few millennias, the human civilization invented all kinds of political systems, from organized religion to socialism, to address these trouble-making "stimuli" to create an ideal society.

Now we have OP here with a brilliant plan to move to Mars to start a colony so that he can solve these problems that the entire human race couldn't solve over a few thousand years.

>>1727564 here, it's late, I'm rambling like an idiot, I'm going to bed. Thanks for the talk, gentlemen (and ladies).
Jesus, we need a word that implies both male or female.

>>1727556
And if after discussing it with them I realize I was wrong and they were right? Yeah.

Sorry, I'm leaving. I'm sure your answer is good.

>>1727568
With added technology, it could become possible.

>>1727571
>And if after discussing it with them I realize I was wrong and they were right? Yeah.

I think you should actually go to stormfront instead of making hypothetical statements like that.

>>1727497
>I want to build a society that's not based on any inequality
I lol'd that is impossible.

These are the great effects that comes with the security gained from having a state. People take rights for granted and simply lack overview. Believe me, everything will backfire.

>>1727497
Hey, at least we're not China, eh?

pic related: real flag of Mars

Mars Op? Probably not within your lifetime or mine. I do agree with some of your points though. I still believe if people would treat each other just a bit nicer, the world could be a much safer place. Everyone has their own set of beliefs from their culture, adolescent experiences, country, etc etc. Putting together a "perfect society" is nearly impossible. If by "my country" you mean the USA, I will agree on some points. The U.S. has a great set of ideals, but are abused by big business and politicians. I like the concept of free speech and free market, but I loathe the government system. Everyone has an opinion on whats best for the world, just suck it up and deal with it.

>implying I'm not the first person to colonize Mars

>>1727623
>Implying you're not an over zealous idiot who thinks you'll actually accomplish anything.
You'll only ruin us farther.

>>1727623
>Implying we'd ever let a dirty sandnigger colonize Mars.

>>1727648
Wanna bet?
>>1727680
Dude what

You work, you eat?

What kind of trash is that.

Keep on moving through history, apply a little science, and some foresight. In a highly technologically advanced society, there simply isn't enough "work" to be done.