/sci/ - Science & Math

I can fap to this idea.

because noone would pay $20 to watch a barren, dark landscape for hours.

NARRATOR: And over here, there's a moon rock!
*dramatic footage of a rock*
NARRATOR: And over there, a crater!
*dramatic footage of a hole in the ground*

won't make a profit in the currant media market without luminescent homosexuals.

>>1699336

how about filming part of the movie on the moon? like the movie moon, except for real? i would pay to watch that.

>>1699342
how about twilight...IN SPACE?

>>1699336

I would, as long as the narrator was David Attenborough.

Why film a movie on the Moon when we can film one on one the much more exotic settings in the Solar System?

A colony inside a hollowed-out comet, a dynamically-supported ring around Earth connected to the surface by fullerene tethers, a Dyson Tree genetically-adapted for comets, the underground sea underneath Europa's cold iceshell warmed by the gigantic cones of towering geothermal vents spewing organic molecules into warm water.

They're putting a fancy video camera on the next Mars rover upon James Camerons requestion

>>1699354

request*

>>1699352
>>1699352

>Why film a movie on the Moon

Because everywhere else you listed would be impossible to film either due to limitations in technology or the fact that we haven't even considered building such a thing.

>>1699342
Costs, dude.

Pandora is way more awesome than the moon. The moon is just a cold lifeless rock. Boring.

>>1699362

Use CGI. And the power of imagination.

And have Carl Sagan's voice digitally rebuilt to work as a narrator.

Fuck, lets dig up some of Sagan's DNA from Ann Druyan's vagoo and clone him. YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND MY LOVE FOR CARL SAGAN

>>1699366
I can also fap to this idea.

You will not be going back to the moon until your Egyptianmastermasons tell you so.

Pic is the Masonic flag that went to the moon.

Conducting an operation on the moon is again as ridiculously expensive as getting there.

Lunar dust is so sharp that it would probably shred the film and destroy the camera lenses if they didn't take insane precautions against it.

The total Apollo program cost $170 billion (in 2005 dollars) That included all R&D, 15 Saturn Vs, 16 CM/CSM, 12 LM, program support & management costs, construction of facilities, and flight operations cost

Astronaut love story for teenage girls?

>>1699325
They should save the money up and go to Europa.

>>1699380
That was starting from zero knowledge or experience. The total cost of the mars rovers was under a billion.

We should force James Cameron to take the money from Avatar and use it to make the biggest budget movie ever, set on a CGI'd underground sea underneath Europa.

Then it would make more money, and we use that to make an even better movie, this time set in the Orion's Arm universe: A hundred different stories, ten hours in lenght, half CGI, half matte paintings and models for realism.

Then you get a generation of scientifically informed, space-enthusiastic peoples! =D

... ;_; not going to happen.

>>1699399
No, that was starting from everything that had from the Gemini project. A one-way trip to mars with no life-support will always be much easier and cheaper.

>>1699416
well they could put the IMAX cameras on moon rovers instead, then.

>>1699415
Obviously fictional scifi movies aren't going to make people want to go back to space, because in the back of their minds, they know how boring space really is.

>>1699448

Scientific accuracy in science-fiction can still be cool.

Exhibit number 8305823980582728582: Orion's Arm Universe Project.

>>1699336
They would if we sent Morgan Freeman to the moon.

obligatory mooninite

>>1699352
>EUROPA IS NOT FOR YOU, ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE

>>1700486
fail

Fucking Avatar.

Just...

Fuck.

We need a city on the moon or mars.

Call the one on the moon Luna City or Tycho Under.

>>1700533
Why not call a lunar city Hank?

I wonder how much money they'd make if everyone who wanted a moon base put in like, twenty bucks, or volunteered to help out in some way.

I'd pay for that shit.

>>1700545

>>1700517
It's not bad from memory, right? Right anon? Sir?
>ohgodwhathaveidone

because the moon is boring as shit. its grey, big, and dusty.

>>1700638
HOW CAN YOU NOT REMEMBER THAT THAT'S LIKE ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS LINES IN ALL OF MOVIES EVAR

- Set up some automated filming equipment on various spots on Mars
- Set up some in orbit far away to see Phobos and Mars
- Set up some recording equipment closer in for a close up on Mars' surface from orbit
- Detonate small nuclear weapons behind Phobos to get it into a rapidly decaying orbit
- Record a ~25km moonlet collide into a planet, make movie scene out of it
- Begun the terraforming, and made a pretty packet from an amazing awesome movie

Besides, a movie ACTUALLY recorded in space would be an amazing thing to see.

>>1700645
All I can remember is:
HAL
HAL
HAL


HAL

HAL
HAL
HAL
HAL
HAL
HAL
HAL!

Yes Dave?

But in all seriousness, my memory remembers the general shape of ideas rather than the specifics/details of things. It's good and bad /shrug

Great movie, great book(s)

>>1700660
I would pay to see this.

>>1700660
hmmm, could one nuke really do that? i wonder...

Phobos weighs M = 1.072 × 10^16 kg and is R = 9235600 m from Mars at closest approach. Suppose for argument Phobos was completely stationary with respect to Mars, and the entire energy E of the bomb was converted to kinetic energy accelerating Phobos toward Mars. The largest nuke ever detonated (~100 megatons) released E = 420 petajoules = 4.2 x 10^17 kg m^2/s^2.

Using conservation of energy gives at any point during the fall

<span class="math">\frac{1}{2} mv^2 - \frac{1}{2} m v_0^2 = \frac{GmM}{r^2} - \frac{GmM}{r_0^2}[/spoiler]
<span class="math">\frac{1}{2} (1.072 \cdot 10^{16})v^2 - 4.2 \cdot 10^{17} = (6.67428 \cdot 10^{-11})(1.072 \cdot 10^{16})(6.4185 \cdot 10^{23}) \cdot \left[\frac{1}{r^2} - \frac{1}{9235600^2}\right][/spoiler]

Isolating v gives

<span class="math">v^2 = \frac{8.544 \cdot 10^{13} }{r^2} + 79.14[/spoiler]
<span class="math">v = \sqrt{\frac{8.544 \cdot 10^{13} }{r^2} + 79.14}[/spoiler]


Now using the force equation

<span class="math">\frac{GmM}{r^2} = m \frac{dv}{dt}[/spoiler]

we want r as a function of t. So we sub in v and the constants to get

<span class="math">\frac{4.5923 \cdot 10^{29}}{r^2} = (1.072 \cdot 10^{16}) \frac{1}{2 \sqrt{\frac{8.544 \cdot 10^{13} }{r^2} + 79.14}}\left(\frac{-1.709 \cdot 10^{14}}{r^3}\right)[/spoiler]

or

<span class="math">-.502 = \frac{r'}{2 \sqrt{8.544 \cdot 10^{13} + 79.14r^2}}[/spoiler]
<span class="math">r' = -.502 \sqrt{8.544 \cdot 10^{13} + 79.14 r^2}[/spoiler]

which is a diffeq that can be solved. doing it in mathematica, it simplifies to

<span class="math">r(t) = 9264730 e^{-0.463 t}+29132.1 e^{0.463 t}[/spoiler]

solving <span class="math">r(t) = radius of mars = 3396200 m[/spoiler] gives <span class="math">t = 2.22[/spoiler] seconds

yeah... i'm not sure that's right. ><

Did I mention I got a C in physics?

>>1700912
By the way wouldn't Phobos weigh less since it's in outer space? Also I'm talking nuclear 'explosions,' so not just one.

>>1700921
>By the way wouldn't Phobos weigh less since it's in >outer space?
facepalm.jpg

>>1700912
weird, i just noticed that the orbital radius of phobos is only 3x the radius of mars itself. weird.

the moon's orbital radius is about 65 earth radii

>>1700923
I mean he gave a kilogram amount in the bagillions and I assumed that he was calculating how much it weighed on Earth. I'm probably fucking up somewhere in my question massively but meh.

>>1700931
Inurdaes, I've wondered, what level is your scientific eduction at? Are you a uni student or what?

>>1700936
>>1700921

>doesn't know difference between weight and mass

9th or 10th grade, i'd say.

What will be your reaction when we discover the first exoplanet with an earth like atmosphere?

>>1700942
I was just picked one of his posts at random, I didn't actually read it, but yeah, now it looks more like year 10. Something I'd wondered before this thread, though.

icame.jpg

>>1700936
see
>>1700942

Once I can get some stable income I'm actually going to be learning the shit out of places like Khan academy and physics text books, then going on to become some sort of robotics engineer or smart AI programmer by taking a 4 year thing at Uni.

I never paid much attention at school, but ever since I came to /sci/ and saw all this awesome maths and the dreams and expectations of the people here, I've wanted to contribute.

>The Alien base on the far side of the Moon. It was seen and filmed by the Apollo astronauts. A base, a mining operation using very large machines, and the very large alien craft described in sighting reports as mother ships exist there.
-Milton Cooper

Professor: What REALLY happened out there with Apollo 11?
>Armstrong: It was incredible, of course we had always known there was a possibility, the fact is, we were warned off! (by the Aliens). There was never any question then of a space station or a moon city.
Professor: How do you mean "warned off"?
>Armstrong: I can't go into details, except to say that their ships were far superior to ours both in size and technology - Boy, were they big!... and menacing! No, there is no question of a space station.
Professor: But NASA had other missions after Apollo 11?
>Armstrong: Naturally-NASA was committed at that time, and couldn't risk panic on Earth. But it really was a quick scoop and back again.
>Armstrong confirmed that the story was true but refused to go into further detail, beyond admitting that the CIA was behind the cover-up.

We aren't allowed to go to the moon, retards.

>>1700990
And as soon as I point out the truth suddenly the thread dies.

>>1700990
SEEMS LEGIT

>>1700990
>Armstrong confirmed that the story was true but refused to go into further detail, beyond admitting that the CIA was behind the cover-up.

How gullible do you have to be to swallow crap like this?

I wish corporations would stop being suckers who donate money to a shitty global welfare program. There are way better places to donate to.

>>1700990
People who are THIS gullible exist?

Damn, now I know why religion still exists in the 21st century.

>>1700990
>>1701056
if you have any more information about aliens and shit, maybe videos or documentals you liked id be happy to see them

>>1700990
iwouldliketosubscribetoyournewsletter.jpg

>>1701080
There's not a lot. The signal:noise is wretched, of course.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tinUhv-eiAw&p=972F001D4AEA971D&playnext=1&index=24

>>1700990

its.... so.... BEAUTIFUL!

first of all, as an emo myself, i will announce to you twilight is for womens 30+
the character is no where near as good compared to hellsing, not sure about novel,,,

>>1701288

Because your idea is new, and everyone knows there are no new ideas in Hollywood.

You're gonna get us all killed. Stop dividing by zero.

Man landing on the Moon? RIDICULOUS!
A giant alien mothership mining for Moon-gold? FACT

Oh /x/, you're such a card.

>Man landing on the Moon? RIDICULOUS!
>A giant alien mothership mining for Moon-gold? FACT

Oh /x/, you're such a card.