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Why haven't we landed on Mars yet?

>> No.1681017

We have.

>> No.1681020

Who told you that we haven't?
I'm at mars atm growing some weed.

>> No.1681031

Same reason we didnt land on the moon, we can bring a man there, but not bring them all the way back

>> No.1681034
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1681034

I heard Mars and weed in the same sentence so I came as quickly as I could. What's going on?

>> No.1681035

Because we'd feel even sillier than we did when we went to the moon.

>> No.1681041

>>1681031
I'm sure you could find someone willing to lay down his life for such an endeavour.

Or just send a death row inmate.

>> No.1681066

No funds, everyone thinks it's useless, because it's not short-term enough for politicians.

>> No.1681099

1. Astronomers find massive deposits of uranium on mars.
2. Get unlimited funding.
3. Go to Mars.

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1681124

So, terraforming and colonization thread?

>> No.1681127

>>1681066
name one realistic benefit of going to Mars

>> No.1681130

>>1681127
Extra 144,798,500 km2 of land?

>> No.1681133

>>1681124
Explain this meme to me, DAMN IT.

>> No.1681139

>>1681133
I had a question once about terraforming Mars that asked would it be possible using Phobos and other asteroids surrounding Mars to crash it into the North/South pole to kickstart the greenhouse effect. Somehow it turned into a meme.

>> No.1681169

>>1681130
I think you mean 144,798,500 km^2 of useless land... We can't grow anything, there's shit-all atmosphere, and precious little water for us. Really, the only thing we CAN use it for is military installations, and mines. And we have enough iron, thank you.

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>>1681169

>> No.1681192

>>1681169

Peak of human advance, the only known race capable of ladning in another planet, potentially owning the whole solar system. The most beautiful conquest ever and an opportunity to park away differences and work as one. Sadly there are still faggots like you out there without dreams

>> No.1681201

You are all small time, Venus is a far better planet in almost every possible way. If I ever get the money i'm building a fucking colony ship and going to venus, after I plate it up with perspex (Venus has an acidic atmosphere but is otherwise nearly perfect, you can even float cities on that muthafucka)

>> No.1681207

>>1681169
>precious little water for us
>Liquid water cannot exist on the surface of Mars due to its low atmospheric pressure, except at the lowest elevations for short periods.[42][43] However, the two polar ice caps appear to be made largely of water.[44][45] The volume of water ice in the south polar ice cap, if melted, would be sufficient to cover the entire planetary surface to a depth of 11 meters.[46] A permafrost mantle stretches from the pole to latitudes of about 60°.[44]

>We can't grow anything
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/27/phoenix_wet_chemistry/

>> No.1681208

>>1681192
I have dreams. I dream that humans will dominate the known and unknown universe. I'm also practical. You can dream all you want, but when it comes down to the line, you have to do, not dream. And right now, we can't do much. So I'll wait until we can.

>> No.1681210

>>1681208
So, 15 years?

>> No.1681214

>>1681099
I don't think Uranium is costly enough to compensate for using a fucking lot of other costly material to get it.

Though Helium3 and Platinum is barely over.


Anyway we didn't send men on Mars because we are INTELLIGENT.
And we didn't colonized it because we've not finished to destroy Earth first.

>> No.1681224

>>1681207
If the Earth was a complete sphere, how deep would the Earth's oceans be?

I'm guessing at least a kilometre. But when you think about it, Mars' 11 metre is pretty deep as well.

>> No.1681230

>>1681210
If we make major strides in space travel, engineering, agriculture, computers, robotics, and solve all domestic and economic problems within that time, then yeah, I can see it working.

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>>1681201
>implying one can just spaceship into mordor.

>> No.1681237

>>1681230
>If we make major strides in space travel,
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article4799369.ece

>> No.1681235

>>1681224
What implications would this relatively small amount of water mass have on climate stability?

>> No.1681241

>>1681235
I don't think anybody would know this seeing as we've never ever observed another planet with liquid water and a lighter gravity.

>> No.1681245

>>1681230

This is why i'm going into astrophysics, engineering and chemistry. Right now, we are wasting BILLIONS AND BILLIONS on wars! (mankind as a whole) That fucking money could be going towards space. Fucking fuck governments, seriously?

>> No.1681246

>>1681237
That solves one problem, but what about the rest? Especially domestic issues. Those can't be scienced away. We need money to fund this, and we don't have any.

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>>1681245
Hey bro, wanna buy a technocracy?

>> No.1681254

>>1681245
>PhD in Astrophysics
>PhD in Engineering (all of them; EE, ME, CE, etc)
>PhD in Chemistry

Do it.

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>>1681245
Have a dose of rage.

>> No.1681270

>>1681254
I can't wait man, I want to make a memorable contribution to our knowledge of space, maybe even be a colonist for our first proper manned flight.

>> No.1681274

>>1681270
If you're on TV you must say hi to /sci/. Deal?

>> No.1681279

>>1681274
Of course, I wouldn't dream of not saying hello to every science based board on the internet.

>> No.1681292

>>1681279
>Son, what do you plan on majoring in university?
>Everything, mom.
>Everything?
>Yes, everything.
>What do you mean by that?
>I'm going to get a PhD in everything.
>Everything.
>Everything. Every. Thang.

>> No.1681294

>>1681254
Wow, that guy is in for an adventure.
He will probably be spending half his life in university

>> No.1681308

>9-15 years typical time for a Ph.D
>He is going to get a Ph.D in Astrophysics, Engineering and Chemistry
I. Love. You.
You people are possibly the only reason I haven't lost faith in humanity.

>> No.1681319

>>1681308
That guy is probably bullshitting.

2 fields most, PhD in one, and Masters in another.

3 PhDs? You best be shitting me.

>> No.1681348

>>1681319
The funny thing is, the original guy didn't even say any of that. /sci/ gave him suggestions then the other guy quoted him as if it was the original guy who said it

>> No.1681353

>PhD in everything
>every job I want
>$<span class="math">\infty[/spoiler] starting

>> No.1681362

>>1681353
Don't you mean:
>Ph.D in everything
>No job but improve society and blow people's minds
>INFINITE CASH, to spend on science!

>> No.1681370

>>1681362
No.
>Ph.D in everything
>You are the boss of reality.
>All the money in the world starting.

>> No.1681435

Shameless bump

>> No.1681969

OP..dark ages..look it up

>> No.1683395

>Ph.D in everything
>No-one hiring; work at McDonalds
>$6.50 starting

>> No.1683477

We haven't landed on Mars for the same reason we haven't cured cancer or achieved biological immortality or whatever other scientific achievement that is just barely within our grasp.

Nobody's interested in paying for it. Machinery is expensive as shit. Actually, facilities and instruments is probably THE biggest setback in scientific research (ie: the particle accelerators and tokamaks and giant telescopes). Teaching people how to use the machinery, and teaching people what to use it for, and caring for these people while they work at it is also extremely expensive, both money and time. Sure, you might live forever once it's done. Or suddenly have a whole other planet to use.

But, man... it's a lot of work and I'd rather just have a bigger swimming pool and a nice car and a career and just live a good life and then die... because sacrifice isn't something we ever chose as a species, it's something that has always been imposed on us.