/sci/ - Science & Math

How's that brain damage working out for you?

how long were you technically dead for?

>>1680204
>>1680202
I had no heartbeat for 3 min and 27 seconds, I got electrocuted working in the house and it knocked me the fuck out.

surprisingly no brain damage just a shitload of burns

How did you die?

Did you have a hallucination as your chaotically firing neurons were unable to form a coherent consciousness, and thus come to the predictable but pedantic conclusion that you must have seen a god or afterlife?

NDE?

>>1680226
Like I said electrocuted

Do you feel that you really died and came back, or that we need to change the definition of death to something like "unrevivable?"

Do you feel any differently about the value of life?

Are you going to pretend that you had a post-death experience to troll people? Tell them that the Sikhs are right?

Damn.

I wish you'd died.

>>1680219
>I had no heartbeat for 3 min and 27 seconds, I got electrocuted working in the house

and I suppose you just happened to have a doctor standing by to measure that your heartbeat had actually stopped, and time the exact length with a stopwatch.

>troll detected.jpg

Also, who the hell found your electrocuted body?

If no-one found it, you would've died for sure.

Did they have to electrocute you back after you electrocuted yourself? i Always found that ironic

Did you see the ghost of Kevin Bacon?

>>1680231
>>1680230

Yeah I died and I had an NED which you can say what you want but unless you have it you can't just say OH ITS AN HALLUCINATION. I saw white and someone was talking to me I couldn't see, he said you can stay or you can go but before I could answer I woke up in the hospital.

Brain was still alive, you didn't actually die.

Wow, butthurt threatened naturalists by the truckload already, and he hasn't even said if he had an NDE.

>>1680248

My brothers an EMT, he was upstairs and saw the lights flicker and heard the boom when I flew back, he came downstairs and found me and started Chest Compressions which is what brought me back

>>1680252
It's NDE, you stupid lying nigger cunt.

Also, how the fuck did you have a doctor nearby in your place of residence?

>>1680252
Cool. You couldn't see who was talking to you at all?

>Ask a guy who died
>Ask a guy whose heart stopped for a few minutes
There's a big difference.

What the fuck were you doing, OP?

Stop dicking around.

>>1680257
http://www.mindspring.com/~scottr/nde/jansen1.html

Fucking nigger.

>>1680199
What was your religious stance before this encounter?

>>1680269
When it happened the first thing I saw was bright light but not the kind that hurts it was like looking into a white sun without the eye pain. Then I heard the voice which was really soft, sounded like a guy and after he asked me the question I woke up.

>>1680258
he came downstairs and found me and started Chest Compressions which is what brought me back

wow, learn your shit troll. Chest Compressions keep your body alive if your mind is busy being dead. It doesn't bring you back to life, it just makes it so your muscle still gets oxygen

>>1680280
Now that I think about it, that is the voice of Jesus, the son of God, your one and only saviour.

I was brought back to life so I can tell you that you must believe in Him or you're going to hell forever.

ALL PRAISE TO JESUS!

>>1680283

Never was Religious, I believed in God before and I still do after so I say im about where I started other than being at peace

>>1680287
Fucking OP.

You're a fucking nigger cunt faggot.

>>1680284
Ketamine Model is refuted, nigger

>>1680258
oh, how convienient.

>>1680280
that was probably the doctor talking and checking if you were awake.

>>1680300
Guess we should replace it with the "God did it (magic)" theory, faggot.

>>1680297

Thats not me dude thats a fucking troll

>>1680280
Any weird after-effects? Some people experience unexplained insights, like knowing things they shouldn't know, or knowing what other people are thinking, for a while afterwards.

>>1680306
No, we should use a little science and objectivity, instead of saying, "hurr, it threatens by outlook, must be halucination."

>no heartbeat for 3 min and 27 seconds
>my brother found me as I was unconscious
>troll detected.jpg

Just a friendly reminder in case you missed it the first time.

>>1680320
It doesn't "threaten my outlook," nigger. NDE's being caused by magic is no likely than mental illnesses being caused by demons.

>>1680330
Calling everything but halucinations "magic" is basically admitting it threatens your outlook too much for you to consider it seriously.

>>1680219
>3 minutes of heart stop
>can legally pronounce himself dead
>300K starting.

You don't die if your heart stops for 3 minutes.

>>1680332
I never said it had to be a hallucination. It could be some other neurophysiological phenomenon. I just don't see any reason to think that it's magic.

>>1680199
Pics or it didn't happen

>>1680342
You're the only one who's suggested magic. If it's not a hallucination that means it's a perception of something that actually exists.

>>1680353
Hallucinations might not physically exist, but they do exist in this world, which would make them exist. Even if you were to say that hallucinations didn't exist, they would still exist because they're in reality with us. Your neurons fire up through the synapses in your brain when you think of hallucination, so.. it at least exists in your brain. And that's what happened with this guy whose heart stopped for a few minutes. Try and think of an idea that you can't think of. Nigga it's harder than you'd think, we go this.

>>1680418

we got this*

>>1680418
All the world could be a hallucination. But since many many people observe the world in a manner that ends up describing a consistent reality, it becomes unreasonable to consider such a shared experience a hallucination. The same applies to NDE's. Many of them are extremely detailed, and together they describe a unified reality. And the common arguments against that don't hold up against the evidence, which cuts across cultures, ages, and can be found consistently recorded through history.

Come on guys. Come on.

>>1680447
a problem is the those "shared concepts" could by physiological. like the "bright light" might be a common effect of the brain losing blood flow or something

>>1680447
>All the world could be a hallucination. But since many many people observe the world in a manner that ends up describing a consistent reality, it becomes unreasonable to consider such a shared experience a hallucination.
Just dropping in to say that a dream with many people in it can still be a dream.

>>1680493
I think you sort of missed the point there. It's not the number of people in it, so much as the number of other people who have the identical dream. If you're prepared to say such a dream isn't real, then you can't be prepared to accept the reality of anything outside the mind.

>>1680487
It's far more detailed and specific than just "bright light", and it also happens in cases when the brain has plenty of blood flow. I'd recommend checking out the book Consciousness After Death, which is on the Rhisome project in the neurology folder.