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does random exist in the scientific world?

>> No.1673744

Yes, quantum mechanics

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>> No.1673766

No. Only patterns too large or complex for us to see.

>> No.1673836

That question is undecidable; whatever works.

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>>1673744
>>1673766
>>1673836

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>>1673744
>>1673766
>>1673836

Thanks for enlightening us, /sci/.

>> No.1673866 [DELETED] 

yes, no, maybe so.
in that order.

Actually, I do not believe in quantum randomness. that's bullshit.
Just because you can change the outcome of something because you measured it doesn't mean you've effectively changed or manipulated a deterministic environment, it just means we haven't figured out just to what infinitecimal degree the mechanisms of measure we use have over the outcome we're measuring.

>> No.1673874

yes, no, maybe so.
in that order.

Actually, I do not believe in quantum randomness. that's bullshit.
Just because you can change the outcome of something because you measured it doesn't mean you've effectively changed or manipulated a deterministic environment, it just means we haven't figured out just to what infinitecimal degree of implications the mechanisms of measure we use have over the outcome we're measuring.

>> No.1673881

>>1673874
lrn2Bell's Inequality faggot.

>> No.1673929

Random, but predictable, given sufficient sample size.

>> No.1674013

Simple answer: no. :/

>> No.1674019

>>1673929
anon2anon endorsing this message

Randomness does not negate probability but probability does interfere with all of our prediction's precision of past, present and future.

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>non /sci/fag
>decide to see what's on /sci/ today
>see this thread
>read more of this thread
>keep reading this thread
>.....
my face

>> No.1674053

yes, the word exists. for a few reasons.
1) in math random is a concept used in stats.
2) quantom mechanins are (sort of) random
3) in the testing of theories, sometimes certain aspects are "randomised". like who gets the placebo and who gets the real viagara.

>> No.1674061

>>1674031
>>1673739
Quantum mechanics are statistics physic. It has a part of randomness but it's a predictible "randomness".

>> No.1674066

>>1674061
This is me
>>1674053
And I approuve this guy