/sci/ - Science & Math

In light of recent events, I made a rather conservative estimate of the future of spess colonies
2025 - mars base(spacex), population 10000
2026 - phobos base(spacex), populaton 7000
2027 - ceres base(spacex), population 9000
2028 - jupiter orbital base(spacex), popilation 700
2029 - EVROPA base(spacex), population 12000
2030 - calisto base(spacex), population 8000
2031 - enceladus base(Spacex), population 15000
2032 - mars base(china), population ~1,6 billion
2033 - venus cloud base(spacex), population 7000
2034 - saturn ring base(spacex), population 4500
2035 - titan cuck base(spacex), population less than a dozen
2036 - uranus base(spacex), population 6900
2037 - neptune base(spacex), population 5500
2038 - first colony ship sent to proxima centauri b(spacex), population 150000
2039 - Pluto (spacex), population 13000
2040 - colony ship sent to ross 128b(spacex), population 370000
2041 - asteroid belt stations(china), population uncountable
2042 - colony ships sent to GJ 1061(spacex), population 1250000
2043 - mercury solar death ray (spacex), population classified
2044 - Eris cloning facility (spacex), population >100000000
2045 - agartha base(spacex), population 750000
2046 - Earth-X genocide wars
2047 - earth colony(X empire), population 0.7 billion
2048 - colony ships sent to andromeda galaxy via wormhole(X empire), population several billion
2049 - Sagittarius A* colony(X empire), population ~13 trillion
2050 - Mankind becomes a kardashev type 3 civilization(X empire), population ~70 quintillion
2051 - Moon base(NASA), population 0-10

theres already a thread from a couple days ago

>>16504921
Good current event edition. Finally some flight 7 movement

>>16504929
It's a dick sucker thread

>>16504897
Not soon enough.
>>16504883
Congrats to Iran. Hopefully they can soon develop and build medium lift capability.

>>16504929
Nobody cares we’re not using or encouraging early stage threads

>>16504925
space lolis...

>>16504939
Kys

>>16504925
>titan cuck
Seethe.

>>16504913
>They are telling workers to not show up for half a week because of low demand

Because of battery supply issues.

The question here is were you ignorant or deliberately lying.

>>16504939
>bullying space lolis
just as God intended

>>16504936
>It's a dick sucker thread
>OP is Musk's scam rocket

Why do you faggots need so many generals?

>>16504950
this board is for space flight

>>16504937
Iran's always going to be held back by the fact that their domestic propulsion capabilities are complete ass. They're reasonably capable when it comes to solid fuel tech, but that's a hinderance to long-term growth just like it's been with India. All of their liquid fuel systems are late 50s Soviet hand-me-downs that were sold to Egypt, then smuggled to North Korea before finally getting traded to Iran. Their engines are small, inefficient, and only one generation removed from using nitric acid as an oxidizer.

Iran's best bet for reaching semi-domestic medium lift capability would be to buy engines from Russia. The Proton's production line shut down a few years ago, but since the Russians never get rid of anything all the tooling for the RD-275M should still be collecting dust in Perm, and selling engines isn't a deal they'd turn down.

Saturn & Shuttle Launched Space Station Mockups - 1972, Modules Tour, North American Rockwell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwTvoTs5qwM

>>16504952
We should actually get a spaceflight board

>>16504955
Liquid Propellant Rockets are difficult, but eventually they will achieve their own designs.
But yeah, they might buy licenses for Russian or Chinese engines.

Space Urban Legends and Conspiracies Iceberg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhCVtvzuR2g

>>16504958
Rockwell was the SpaceX of its time

>>16504971
Retard entertainment.

How does blood flow work in space and can it make my penor bigger than on Urf?

>>16504950
why do you fags need so many threads about muh vaccines and IQ tests??? because that's what /sci/ is anyways.

>>16504990
It is a concern. Due to the lack of gravity people tend to have somewhat swollen heads in space.
And no, you still have a tiny pecker.

>>16504991
Dont forget the same exact threads spammed over and over for months on end (i.e. where are all the aliens ?!)

>>16504990

>>16504993
My pecker is 5 inches… thats tiny now?

>>16504994
the black woman in a lab coat, 0.9999=1, "I want to self-study quantum mechanics but I dropped out of high school, what books do you recommend?", etc etc

>>16504996
Just checked, this is average for the US.

>>16504813
I don't believe the shit about the south pole is scientific at all. No one is putting up solar panels in Antarctica and Starship completely eliminates any need for ISRU at the scale of the planned operations. The south pole offers no tangible benefit. Let the Chinese have it, maybe it'll kick the space program into gear.

>>16504941
>Saturn visible
Why don't you post what it would really look like

>>16505010
Wumao hands wrote this.

>>16505014
Think about it logically. It's the best thing that can happen for our space program long term. If it suddenly became strategically important then NASA could justify cleaning up the contractor mess we have now. It's also pretty unlikely someone would come in with an Obama tier earth observation redirect while China's on the moon

>>16505018
No, fuck you.

>>16505018
Shut up, slant eyes.

>>16505018
>Think about it logically.
>The south pole offers no tangible benefit

Like I said.

>>16505013
Wrong angle of rings too, its only inclined 0.3 degrees to Saturn's equator. Unlike the chad Iapetus.

I love jared isaacman so much it’s unreal

>>16505025
I don't buy it one bit. It's a political line, like using the moon to get to Mars

>>16505029
>water has no tangible benefit, it is all political

You aren't getting out of your hole by digging deeper.

>>16505031
Starship can drop how many hundred tons of water on the surface? How many tons of equipment, how much energy, how much time would it take to squeeze the same amount from lunar dirt? Starship changes the equation. Lunar ISRU was a requirement of oldspace mass autism.

>>16504939
cunny where no cunny has gone before

>>16505035

Pretty obvious it make more sense to Starship up a few hundred tons of Chinese solar cells to the Moon than to try and recreate the production infrastrunvw4jcture and materials on the surface.

>>16504950
its in the name: General
means they should be all over the place

>>16505035
If you want 1000+ people, you need ISRU
You might argue that other areas of the moon have more iron and aluminum and you might argue that you need a lot more of that since water is recyclable

>>16505039
Kys

>>16505044
I don't disagree, I'm just saying that short term cancelling Orion doesn't make the moon Chinese for an eternity. Even if they do decide to claim land, I think having that precedent set would be good for space overall.
>>16505040
Solar is a terrible idea for a place with month long nights.

>>16505048
> Solar is a terrible idea for a place with month long nights
>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST SIT THE SOLAR PANELS IN THE AREAS OF PERMANENT SUN ON THE SOUTH POLE

>>16505018
I too watched For All Mankind

Territory is a human idea. A meme.
If both China and the USA believes there's a race for territory on the moon, then there is a race for territory on the moon.
This can be memed into existence.

>>16505056
Cool.

>>16505051
I didn't even come close to saying this
>>16505054
I haven't seen it
>>16505056
This is what I'm saying. The race isn't based on actual constraints

>>16505048

> The Moon
> has month long nights

This really isn't the thread for you.

>>16505062
Day/night cycle faggot, I was assuming we're on the same page and wouldn't get into semantics. My mistake

>>16505059
berger-sama...

this should've been the Cool. edition

>>16505061
It is exactly what you said by excluding this highly important exception that NASA is specifically targetting for this reason. That makes you a redditor, because redditors lie by omission

>>16505064

> Night/Day -- what's the difference!

Solar cells work in -- wait for it -- daylight. So the Day part of your Cycle isn't really a problem.

https://x.com/SpaceAbhi/status/1865090328040288344

very long thread

>>16505073
>>16505075
>>16505077
so pretty...

>>16505078
>abhi
Why should I consider the opinions of this towelhead again?

>>16505073
>>16505075
>>16505077
ew

fuck you

>>16505087
good afternoon, anon

>>16505087
No, I'm saving my virginity for someone special.

>>16505083
>>16505078
TL;DR: get NASA out of activities that overlap with what the commercial space sector is doing and direct it to focus on everything that has no commercial market. Close or sell off everything that doesn't fit this realignment.

spehs

>>16505110
rockehts

>>16505035
if all you are shipping is water then yeah

>>16504921
So could we not just take all the money you fags waste on rockets and plant trees instead?

>>16505122
ISS has over its lifetime cost about 1/10th of the F-35 Program.
Space really doesn't cost that much. It even is a net positive if you include all economic activities based on technologies developed by the space program.

>>16505122
maybe we could spend a little bit less on football, hollywood, and sex toys, and use that money instead?

>>16505122
how about I fucking kill you, huh? How about that??

>>16504921
So could we not just take all the money you fags waste on trees and launch rockets instead?

>>16505135
just for reference
>The global sex toys market size was estimated at USD 35.2 billion in 2023 and is expected to grow at a CAGR of 8.69% from 2024 to 2030.
the entire starship program, which would enable our species to be interplanetary, costs way less than that. earthers would rather have their dildos and fleshlights instead, though. maybe hunger and poverty weren't that important after all. priorities.

He's right you know

>>16505149
one word, starts with C.

CUNNY

>>16505149
>"You can dock to because it has no docking adaptor"
>Berger: Then find a solution to that
>"But there's no solution because it doesn't have a docking adaptor"
Literal breakfast question tier retard

>>16504925
Seeing the water gun makes me think: ball games in small rotating space stations will probably have an insane skill ceiling because of the inertial effects.

>>16505152
CTAPШИП?

>>16505155
>breakfast question
someone should ask willie this

>>16505160
Дa, мoй дpyг. мы идeм.

>>16505149
Cool.

>>16505166
>>16505160
тyпыe yкpaинcкиe cвиньи

>>16505177
кpyтo.

>>16505122
Bend over and I'll plant one, you son of a bitch.

>>16505109
Haven't nasa already been doing this for ages?

>>16505198
Oh yes please zaddy

>>16505149
damn i guess the only solution is to dump Orion as well

What did they discuss? Seems like Bill was there

>>16505125
>the F-35 cost $1.5 trillion

Oh no its retarded.

>>16505217
Nigger alert!

>>16505149

> 1 Fan of NASA's SLS Rocket

He does not lie about that.

>>16505125

Every single dime spent on SLS and Orion was wasted.

>>16505230
Orion seems pretty good in general though. too bad they screwed the heat shield.

>>16505238
>1 billion dollars a year for a generic capsule
>they won't even follow the same testing requirements they demanded everyone else do

NOOOOO ISAACMAN ISN'T HECKIN REBBIT APPROVED

>>16505239
im not saying everything is perfect anon, but the performance of the thing, excepting the reentry looked good. Could another company do better? For sure.

>>16505241
>r/SpaceXLounge

>>16505242
>but the performance of the thing, excepting the reentry looked good
Its test flight didn't include a functional life support system

>>16505251
which flight? the one in the VAB or the one round the moon? but there was no one on board after all.

>>16505254
Actually, both, but the lunar one in 2022 was the one I meant

>>16504929
yeah but that thread looks gay as fuck

>>16505274
You say this when >>16505207?

This thread could use more anime rocket girls.

>>16505283
the way the shuttlegirl is posed made me think of Challenger

>>16505277
fags in a thread? fine, whatever
blatant faggotry in the OP? no thanks
>>16505279
so true

Ignore the CCP propaganda and enjoy the anime girls.

>>16505289
I hope that alleged second airframe exists and really does get built up into a new 225. I don't care about slav politics, I just like big plane.

>>16505292
>alleged second airframe exists
It's very much real, but it's in the hands of a chinese company last i heard but they havent done anything with it yet and it's most likely still in a hanger in ukraine.

>>16505289
That's anti-Russian propaganda if anything, it's based on those drunken retards shelling Mriya-chan.

>>16505298
It wasnt the artists intention, he wanted to imply it was the ukrainians fault that the plane was wrecked.

>>16505268
did those systems not work or were they left off for reasons?

>>16505301
China literally can't help but make their enemies look good in propaganda.

>>16505286
made me think of the other thing

>>16505306
Columbia?

>>16505304
They weren't included because they weren't finished yet. They're still not done now and that's part of why Artemis II isn't launching until June of 2026

>>16505292
If it ever gets built, ziggers will probably do their utmost best to destroy it, they’re petty like that, pretty much the ultimate crab bucket nation and the type of society leftists were trying to push us towards.

>>16505298
Like this one for instance, gets angry at a plane and simultaniously seethes about a former client state because he doesn’t or won’t understand that USSR was basically the british empire in a trenchcoat and they sucked at doing anything themselves without parasitizing their colonies, as is now evident in the modern age, can’t even dock to the ISS without spilling their spaghetti all over the place

>>16505301
Holy damage control lel

>>16505211
Hello kuiperbelt poster

>>16505309
I don't trust anons who refer to peoples as 'ziggers' and 'holhols', you're all unreliable narrators.

>>16505307
nah bro..the OTHER thing you know

>>16505308
hmm well thats not good. is there are dragon equipped for extended flight that could replace it?

>>16505312
Consider that "zigger" is a constructed word based on the English language and something Russians were painting on their vehicles in 2022, whereas "hohol" is the Russian traditional ethnic slur for Ukrainians based on an old fashioned Ukrainian men's hairstyle. If you see a weird ESL poster calling someone "crests" or "dills" that's Russian->English MTL of "hohol."

>>16505319
>nah bro..the OTHER thing you know
1.5STO? Drop tanks? RS-25 reusability problems and LH2 seals?

>>16505319
I agree, we must retvrn

>>16505309
>>16505322
Shut up and post anime rocket girls.

why doesnt nasa just give the space shuttle to the british and get them to operate it?

>>16505279
>>16505326
Hear fuckin HEAR my MAN

>>16505319
>is there are dragon equipped for extended flight that could replace it?
Extended flight isn't the problem. You could leave it free flying in LEO for a few days, transfer crew to HLS, send another tanker to the moon to refill HLS in LLO, return to LEO propulsively, and transfer to Dragon... but that adds more required tanker flights with tighter scheduling and requires HLS to refill from a depot with crew on board. It's arguably WORSE than the SpaceX Mars conops because it involves HLShip and Dragon and involves like 30 total tanker launches.

>>16505289
>Ignore the CCP propaganda and enjoy the anime girls.
shes........ she is si brautifol..................

>>16505312
It’s an apt description, they act in many ways like africans do but with the wrong skin color and more apathetic and depressed. Blacks might be just as moronic, prone to bursts of violence and self-victimizing but at least they know how to have fun every once in a while. All i ever hear from russians when i’ve spoken to them is
>“waaaaah everything sucks this place sucks but it’s okay because the rest of the world secretly sucks more than us and just hide it better!”

We very good space! You want space?

>>16505322
>1.5STO? Drop tanks? RS-25 reusability problems and LH2 seals?
now you're talking baby!

>>16505323
yeah, that thing

>>16505340
If only Han women actually looked like this. Too bad!

>>16505330
to quote a meme - 'thats crazy'
but seriously, how else will it work? i want to understand this but im not sure where to go

>>16505298
>it's based on those drunken retards shelling Mriya-chan

The sole An-225 was destroyed by Ukrainian artillery.

insane

I am not
you TAKE THAT BACK

>>16505334
Spaceflight?

>>16505355
Yes, go to intel slava z for more info the west is trying to bury!
Also spaceflight?

So what will Isaacman do with SLS? Allow it a few pity launches? Or nuke it?

>>16505346
they come in all appearances, shapes and sizes
I've fucked plenty better looking than that (and plenty that weren't)

>>16505398
Deal is already being drawn up in congress to nuke SLS in return for moving NASA HQ to Huntsville. It wont be him to nuke it though I suspect he will have a hand in it, he is VERY much in favor of commercial space. I suspect that once SLS is nuked, many other useless things will as well like Berger said with Gateway and also likely ML-2, etc. and be moved in to more space science funding as long as congress doesnt tear NASA a new one on the budget in retribution.

The main things that Isaacman will be doing is increasing efficiency at NASA, maybe outright cutting out some of the centers, increase in advocacy for commercial space. The ones pulling the strings are congress, nothing gets done unless a deal is struck. Once that deal is struck, Isaacman gets to determine how its done I think? Idk I might be retarded some anon tell me

>>16505402
>making half your pressurized containment out of glass
This was always stupid. Pic related, what a cylinder would actually look like from the outside

>>16505407
Ah yes the magical worker drones that somehow solve every problem in unique and complex 0G situations every time. And lets not forget that we need to make spacecrafts out of asteroids for some reason instead of just fucking building them where you need to put the shit in to go into space.

>>16505159
How will creampies work in spin stations? New pullout aiming strats will need to be developed so you don't accidentally impregnate someone

this is what the neighborhood looks like when you subtract the red dwarfs

>>16505425
i subtracted your dad fom my cock and he begged to go back on it.

>>16505425
Stars should all have cool names, "Glise<numbers>" is a gay naming scheme.

>>16505434
There aren't enough names

>>16505437
Sounds like a skill issue

>>16505437
Naming is hard

Top 3 best and worst NASA admins? Including Von Braun because lol. I want to hear your opinions /sfg/, oldfags that lived through some of them older ones tell us about it like I hear about how shit the Carter administration was from my gramps.

Death to Boeing

>>16505434
I like the serial numbers. It makes them seem mysterious and family ominous.

>>16505450
Faintly* ominous

>>16505450
I like "Procyon" and "Aldebaran", even "Proxima".
The problem with the serial numbers is that there's too many "Glise"s, if I don't know the number star you're talking about I'm liable to get mixed up. "Oh you meant Gliese 687? I thought you said Gliese 251, haha totally different". They need more individuality, humans are clever enough to name every star uniquely.

>Reaction motors inc
>Doesnt make reaction wheels like in kerbal space program (The ayytech)

>>16505405
>NASA HQ
US Space Command HQ.

>>16505406
Materials science is less important than making sure people don't neckrope from lack of a view outside, unless you're in combat or interstellar.

>>16505455
Name them according to what constellation they're located in. Kinda like an address with your state and post code. Simple as.

>>16504925
>>16504939
those aren't space lolis but i still want to feel their legs and thighs...

>>16505463
Somethin or other

Hey you stupid faggots why dont you answer my call for your list huh? >>16505444 yes I am crying like a baby but I dont give a damn, post list and why now.

>>16505407
for what purpose?

>>16505478
why don't you start?

>>16505485
it's cool as shit, that's enough of a reason for me

>>16505407
If you've got powerful enough lasers to core an asteroid you've got enough power budget to just smelt them into metals and build a proper hab.

>>16505466
That's fine until you start having colonies in other solar systems where the constellations are different from their perspective.

Trump is Starship posting.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113595557101433007

>>16505492
So the constellation naming scheme will only last 1,000+ years?

>>16505494
2015 SO20 poster

>>16505464
>outside

>>16505494
>is
was. two days ago.

>>16505478
I'd have to dig through the list. As it is I could only actually name three, and one of them because of SLS memes. But, in order of quality:
>James Webb
>Jim Bridenstine
>Charles Bolden

>>16505478
Nobody here (myself included) actually knows, nor cares, about dull bureaucrats like who leas NASA lmao. Big rocket go boom haha

>>16505478
For me, it's the pirate guy who was only around for like a month.

>>16505511
nasa has had some pretty forgettable assholes at the helm. i do think Dan Goldin deserves to be up there for scrapping and rewriting the mission execution strats. my list would swap Bolden for Goldin. Bolden was pretty useless, and surprisingly dumb for being an astronaut. Terrible executive. All the positive policies out if that admin came from Lori Garver (and her ilk) and accepted by Obama. Chuck was not forward looking, and very oldspace.
>SLS is real
He has come around lately, but that took years. during his tenure he looked backward

>>16505503
Was he Falcon posting during his first term huh faggot? Yeah thats what I thought, this is an encouraging sign and you need to stop shitting on it for no reason before I shit down your throat.

>>16505552
He was at DM-2 in person and was generally pro space but he didn't get the SpaceX launch watcher bug until this year.

>>16505552
American astronauts, on American rockets, from American soil

>>16505552
He created the USSF, Trump is the most pro space president America has had since Kennedy.

It was very amusing to watch space interested lefties try to tell themselves Kamala was a good vote for American space interests when she was an empty seat for one of the few actual jobs she had as VP, chair of the National Space Council.

>>16505561
>>16505556
>>16505557

>>16505568
You are in the wrong thread, and also brown.

/sfg/ er død.

>>16505582
Whats this about Dodd?

>>16505583
next nasa admin, just wait

>>16505301
>>16505305
Asians in general just seem to be terrible at propaganda. I remember a story about how during the Korean war the North Koreans told their soldiers that Americans were a race of giants and a single one would tear your entire family limb from limb and eat them alive.

>>16505587
Telling them about the nukes was probably worse than that.

Just shit my pants. If I did this and we were on the same Starship to Mars, wwyd?

>>16505591
rape you with the vacuum toilet hose

>>16505591
Use the indestructible mineral-fibre personal hygiene cloth you were issued with to clean yourself up.
You do still have it don't you?

>>16505596
Uhhhh yyyyyyes I do, its this right here. Damn its hot in here, are you guys hot? Im pretty hot rig hot now, can someone turn down the thermostat?

>>16505593
Sounds like a good time~

>>16505591
>>16505600
>frogposters rp shitting themselves

>>16505340
Can China stop ripping off our stuff and make their own spacecraft so we can have a proper space race

>>16505606
They actually can't. The US is so far ahead that New Glenn, which would be the all time superstar of any other surviving country's program, would be merely the fourth most powerful rocket by payload mass in US history, with two of the other three still flying (credit where it's due, SLS isn't the holdup for Artemis right now). Desperately copying us is their only chance to catch up, and they'll still fail.

>>16505606
Why bother? If Starship exists, you can just copy Starship. No need to R&D your own system when the other guys do if far better and you would have no repurcusions (if not being encouraged) to rip them off.

>>16505122
There is already more money for trees to be planted than there are people willing to do the hard work of actually planting trees. Oil companies will pay you good money to plant trees so they can greenwash their reputations to investors, yet are you out there planting trees for them? Nope, you're inside being a worthless whiny bitch. You should strangle yourself with your belt.

>>16505630
Not a real post.

>>16505637
It says a lot though that you could have believed it was real

>>16505638
Nobody types ‘uhm’

>>16505638
>It says a lot though that you could have believed it was real
Only person it's saying much about is you desu

>>16505418
pulling out is forbidden to prevent population collapse

>>16505643
Unfortunate for you, I cant pull out of your ass either now anon.

>>16505649
You try that and Ill shit all over your cock. Its even messier in 0G

/sfg/ - Shitting on Fallaces General

I'm stoked for Stoke!

>>16505617
How can you copy a rocket that isn't even finished? It would be far easier to develop their own technology. China don't care about bureaucracy, environmental concerns, or worker safety so the process would be far quicker. But all they know how to do is make cheaper, lower quality versions of western technology. They're fucking parasites. The Soviet Union being interested in space was the best thing that ever happened to the US

November has been over for quite a while now, where is my fucking New Glenn launch Jeff?

Cobalt-60 betavoltaic + Xeon ion drive, when?

>>16505701
never
TWR:0.0000000001
(Verification not required.)

>>16505704
Not at all, it has far much better trust to weight ratio.

Oh man I wonder what /sfg/ was talking about during european hours-
>shitting
>shitting while raping
Guten tag

>>16505700
2 weeks

>>16505478
I'm Christopher Scolese kinda guy.

>>16505444

Some guys just can't keep a job. Probably drinking at work.

>>16505407
Would be cool if it works.

>>16505720
watching porn on his company laptop

>>16505725
>mechanical computers

HOP
HOP NOW
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>16505725
>printed flywheels for IMU
LOL

IMUs are only some of the most precise mechanisms ever made, necessarily so to get useful data out of them. No big deal, just use some rough printed parts. That'll work great!

>>16505437
There are an infinite number of names but a finite number of observable stars.

Jared Isaacman has resigned from shift4

>>16505587
>North Koreans told their soldiers that Americans were a race of giants and a single one would tear your entire family limb from limb and eat them alive.
Where's the lie?

>>16505682
>China don't care about bureaucracy
lmao
winner of the "prove you know nothing about China" contest

>>16505864
I think this might be one of the reasons he wanted to become administrator--so that he could retire without fucking with the stock price. Investors are really gay about CEO changes.

>>16505877
your dad was really gay last night... didnt stop me from dicking him down.

>>16505862
there are more stars in the night sky than there are atoms in the universe. keep that in mind

>>16505888
there are more sperm cells in your mom than there are stars in the night sky. Fascinating.

That one time Mars's atmosphere collapsed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siMOGpI2LuA

>>16505864
What why, did I miss something?

>>16505495
I don't know, you don't know, fuck you.

the solution no one is thinking about

>>16505888

>>16505898
anon...

>>16505898
how's rent for the rock you live under?

>>16505888
Nigga math be like

fuck you

>>16505864
Isn't this jumping the gun? He hasn't been confirmed yet

>>16505929
out of all the pick I'm pretty sure he's the one less likely to be barred

>>16505929
He works for/with SpaceX now. Regardless what happens in congress, his future is secured.
Best to get any conflict of interest things cleared well before confirmation hearings anyway.

>>16505909
good

>>16505932
Still, congress might not like the idea of someone who is potentially against the SLS fucking all their districts.

>>16505938
They can still force NASA to spend money on it if they really want to.

>>16505896
thats insane

>>16505911
they dont think that it be like that, but it do.

>>16505938
afaik even though being a elon pick he has never shown interest in canning SLS

>>16505966
>afaik
Go back faggot

>>16505967
>contractions don't exist in MY fourchyan

>>16505959

>>16505864
He didn't resign explicitly. This letter says that he will resign on the basis of confirmation. If he is not confirmed, he will retain his role as CEO of Shift4. It's a smart notice.
>I intend to remain CEO until my confirmation

>>16505962
>"It'll take six to ten years to complete, but at least the mission will be small enough to fit on an Atlas V 551 for $153 million!"

>>16505969
>contractions

>>16505929
Read the whole thing. He's going to resign when he takes office.

>>16505982
>ESL

>>16505969
Thats an acronym you dumb fuck. Contractions are shit like dont, wont, cant. Acronyms like as far as I know afaik have the first letter of each word as the acronym. Laser, fbi, cia, nasa, good lord ESLs are such idiots.

>>16505985
>calling someone ESL when he doesnt know the difference between contractions and acronyms >>16505986
Holy fucking jej do thirdies really?

>>16505969
>>16505966
You are regarded. He has publicly complained about the price of SLS.

>>16505991
>regarded
KEEEEEEEEEK THE TURD WORLDER ESL CANT STOP OUTING HIMSELF

>>16505986
>acronym
gonna be honest I forgot about this word for a sec
>>16505991
I must've missed it then

>>16505972
lol. love tyson memes

>>16505992
It’s a meme, you dip. Go get euphoric over something else.

sometimes I wonder about /sfg/'s age distribution

NASA administrator does not have the authority to start firing contractors

>>16506007
>age distribution
20-30 year olds
>mental age distribution
7-80 year olds

>>16505977
total oldspace death

>>16505977
with only a 10 million dollar a year budget while it coasts in space for a decade

>>16506009
I'm probably older than your parents

>>16506009
20

>>16506007
There are some strangely elderly people here. I was 11 when the last shuttle flew

>>16506022
And then you need another mission to actually investigate the rock since this is just bringing it back to lunar orbit

I have just determined scientifically that the 9m starship is too thin for its height

https://youtu.be/ROARiyhtlzA

>>16506023
lol, sure you are gramps, sure you are. Post your wrinkles for us, why dontcha?

>>16506046
Superglue, my guy.

/sfg/ - Super Fixing Glue

>>16505993

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1865429836086362514

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-12-06/spacex-gets-us-contract-to-expand-ukraine-s-access-to-starshield

>>16505862
There are much much fewer names that are pronounceable and meaningful than there are stars. Unless you want stars to be named "heckin broccoli" and "fluffer pupperino"

>>16506078
Sounds like a creativity issue

>>16506078
There are literally tens of thousands of deities.

>>16506078
You can easily get an infinite number of pronounceable names by ordering pronounceable syllables, but then it's hard to see a meaningful difference between that and actually numbering them.

>>16506083
and over 100 million stars in the galaxy

>>16506083
Only the greek and norse ones matter

>>16506065
regarded*

>>16506046
yeah you got a point, where the hell is the 12m version?

>>16506111
They should name a star Jagannath.
I just think it sounds neat.

If you're a pantheist every star is a deity and whatever name you give it is the name of a deity. They've even probably already named themselves.

It’s a more practical solution.

>>16506008
Not directly—but if they really wanted to, an administrator can basically choke a program out until the contractor requests to pull out

>>16506078
starry mc star face

>>16506111
The Egyptian ones matter too.

>>16505897
buy an ad faggot

>>16505897
thanks, anon.

>>16506009
you have to consider that there's people on here who believe early staging intentionally and then obsessively trying to keep their early stage thread from going to page 11 is le funny trolling.
there's also that one retard who keeps posting links to retarded EDS e-celeb videos.
these people are likely somewhere around the mental age of 12.

>>16505640
Uhm, I do.

>>16506075
I don't know why I thought Starlink and Starshield use different antennas.

>>16506075
i still don't understand why lefties created all that fanfiction about him blocking starlink.
spacex is contributing their fair share to total zigger death, really goes to show what EDS does to you.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1865496881683394903

Aurora is Groks new image generator

>>16506143
>Cool.

insane

marvelous

>>16506143
Cool.

>>16506091
No, absolutley not.

So is anyone actually developing plans and hardware for martian habitation or is ass just think tanks jerking each other off

>>16506159
pallets and pallets of MREs and machine tools and jerking off

>>16506143
that's crazy

>>16506159
yeah
long term, lava tubes
however the work of surveying, finding suitable candidate sites, will take time and be very dangerous to say nothing of the work entailed in actually building that base

alternatively, you can set up an artificial EMF to protect your people from radiation and live in the pods
that's what's going to be necessary at the start, before they establish tube base

>>16506159
they get paid for power point presentations
not for actually producing usable hardware

>>16506159
Doing some big gay plan well ahead of testing anything is a recipe for failure. The only thing that should be in planning now is experiments and prototypes.

>>16505643
every young girl will be taught in sex ed to perform a leg-lock maneuver when the man is about to cum to ensure impregnation.
the colony's future needs building, and women will do their part or be thrown out of the airlock or turned into hydrolox.

>>16506159
We'll figure it out when we get there

>>16506143
Wrong colour exhaust

>>16506175
t. most pro-women's rights /sfg/ poster

>>16506166
>artificial EMF to protect your people from radiation
>>16506065

>>16506179
That seems like an awful plan

>>16506202
better than no plan

>>16506159
Several layers of plastic for redundancy and insulation, with actual buildings being the same as on Earth

>>16506206
laughable. you can tell people who make monkey ideas like this have never actually worked with their hands in the real world. stuff breaks.

>>16505909
Energia, my beloved...

>>16506143
Cool posting is so hot right now

>>16506210
>stuff breaks
That's why you have layers for redundancy and use something that can be field repaired
>real world
I'm 40% sure you're that communist that keeps posting here so don't tell me about the real world

>>16506200
that's how the earth is protected from solar and cosmic radiation
the magnetosphere extends past the atmosphere, in fact if we didn't have a magnetosphere there would be no atmosphere
artificial EMF can even be used for aerobraking

you're right, /sfg/ is retarded
but what you failed to realize is YOU are the retard, because you are retarded

>>16506216
Can someone explain it to this retard? I'm busy

>>16506220
Gaia's AT field.

>>16506216

>>16506216
what a fucking retard
how did you even find this place

>>16506223
That is the coolest fucking downie Ive ever seen. Why cant they all be like this?

>>16506225
Low bar because theyre downies btw but still. Also why do I never see more downie adults?

>>16506220
you generate an EMF around your spacecraft or ground base and that protects you from radiation through deflection of charged particles
it's really not that complicated

the reason Mars atmosphere is so fucked and non-existent is because it doesn't have a natural magnetosphere, or lost it long ago when it's dynamo failed; it has only spotty and intermittent fields from the static and interaction with the solar wind of it's dust, and from magnetic minerals in the crust

>>16506227
Downies tend to die young, that's why

>>16506233
Unfortunate. They generally seem like good people when I met them during childhood.

>>16506233
imagine needing permission to light up your engine lmao

>>16506224
>>16506223
shills don't want you to know about DERDS because it's sensitive
/sfg/ is filled with pinhead rocket nerds and literal AI content retards and none of them even know about this basic shit because delta V does not significantly factor into the equation
delta V is where their familiarity begins and ends

https://phys.org/news/2022-05-magnetic-astronauts-dangerous-space.html

>funding from the NASA Innovative Advanced Concepts (NIAC) program to build a prototype. Called CREW HaT, the proposal takes advantage of the latest advances in superconducting magnet technology to effectively shield spacecraft—and the astronauts inside—from harmful space radiation

... University of Wisconson–Madison's Department of Astronomy, and the principal investigator for CREW HaT. "We use new superconductive tape technology, a deployable design, and a new configuration for a magnetic field that hasn't been explored before."

"lightweight, deployable, mechanically supported magnetic coils activated by a new generation of high-temperature superconducting tapes, which have only recently become available"
"produces an enhanced external magnetic field that diverts cosmic radiation particles, complemented by a suppressed magnetic field in the astronaut's habitat,""

https://technology.nasa.gov/patent/KSC-TOPS-97

"provides a magnetic field that will deflect SEPs and CMEs and other harmful solar and cosmic rays away from a manned spacecraft, robotic spacecraft, or manned extra-planetary base stations using an electromagnet that is deployed between the spacecraft/station and the source of radiation and creates a magnetosphere or zone of minimal radiation in which the spacecraft or base station would reside"

>>16506228
Dumbass

>>16506227
>Also why do I never see more downie adults?
they get hunted

>>16506233
>pic
Why a laser? You could use sunshade reflectors. Or does that break down as you go further out (e.g. Mars’ orbit)

>>16506239
How does it differ from being forced to make a burn by celestial mechanics? Spacecraft are highly constrained in their maneuvers

>>16506242
see >>16506065

feels good to be a mental specimen superior to the rocket science hobbiest dregs that squat here

>>16506245
>Or does that break down as you go further out
well at Mars you only receive 40% of the solar radiation you do at Earth, and at Jupiter it's down to 4%. The performance of a laser doesnt fall off that bad with distance

>>16506243
Why? Is it like that thing in Africa where they think bald peoples skulls are full of gold?

>>16506241
Kek, those niggers got embarrassed hard

>>16506260
Downies bones are denser so they make good piano keys. Don't ask me how I know.

>>16506265

>>16506264
Magnetic field fags are not worth engaging with

>>16506270
plasma magnet drive though

>>16506270
you are attempting to communicate electronically right now, but it's all retarded and fail
because you don't know there are magnetic fields critical to that process

like, what's an electromechanics
as if you even knew that word existed though

one day

>>16506227
>Also why do I never see more downie adults?
They tend to have a lot of health problems. Heart issues, other organ dysfunction, etc.

>>16506273
Those are legit and I hope Isaacman funds a demonstrator. Sick of missions to the ice giants and beyond taking decades

>>16506279
if you sucesfully demonstrate such aceeleration then is there anything stopping you from pointing it at a nearby star on the first go?

>>16506274
You're the communist, whatever you think, I don't think

>>16506284
It would still take thousands of years to get there. Voyagers are falling apart after ~50 years.

>>16506290
You'd leave at about 2% c if all goes right with the soaring meme maneuver. So you'd arrive after 80 years.
In principle you could repeat the whole thing when you get there are come to a halt.

>>16506291
Sorry 200 years not 80 years

>>16506143
Good, previously it had no idea what starship meant

>>16506290
Nope. People keep sleeping on this. It's a 20-year cruise with current tech for micro-sats.
https://www.nasa.gov/general/swarming-proxima-centauri/

https://x.com/DimaZeniuk/status/1865094731077656623

>>16506299
didn't he get canceled why are people still talking about this faggot

>>16506285
mental illness
seek help or get a real job

>>16506303
Something about the fag that cancelled him fucked up some of the more important info. Hes still a dirtbag but not as much of one idrk.

>>16506309
fuck, I thought for sure I wouldn't have to look at his stupid face ever again

nooooooooo

stop talking about how superconducting tape is in low supply

>>16506316
Erm, just make more?

>>16506316
I HATE VAPOR DEPOSITION
I HATE VAPOR DEPOSITION

>>16506159
>mars buttplug poster is back

How much of /sfg/ is also studying for finals or taking them? This is my theory for decreased post count

>>16506346
I don't know who that is

>>16506347
I'm 30

>>16506206
That sounds retarded

>>16506349
Then shut up

>>16506347
Are you talking about the past day or two? You know like, the weekend?

>>16506347
I'm also 30

>>16506265
What are the implications for spaceflight? Does this mean they get less bone loss in microgravity? Are downies built for space?

>>16506351
being this angry on the internet is bad for you

>>16506350
You want as much stuff to be 1:1 to Earth as possible so you can industrialize to self sufficiency without needing to develop something new for each step. In the long run this makes the most sense

>>16506363
Also it's the cheapest way to spread out. Digging doesn't even come close

>>16506346
>>16506348
it's the fucking prooontfag
he was always based, I'm glad he's back

>>16506386
I've been accused of being this guy twice but I'm definitely not him. I just hate 3d printed Mars buildings

>>16506385
There's no way to anchor those roof structures without the cables tearing out of the soil and your internal atmosphere dissipating like a fart.

>>16506392
Why would the cable anchors tear out of the ground?

>>16506396
Air pressure

>>16506398
So make the structure weigh more.

>>16506392
Anchors, mass, there's hardly "no way" to solve this.

20 minutes until another starlink launch.. yaawwnnnnnnnn

>>16506409
*stuffs cock in open mouth*

>>16506414
anon you can't do that that's rape

>>16506415
Oh sorry *pulls out*

>>16506414
bro if you wanted a snack you could have just gotten some popcorn, but you do you I guess.

>>16506363
That's extremely stupid. Mars needs a different paradigm of structures to fit it's environment. You're not going to have an american craftsman house with shingles, lumber and drywall. How absurd

he got away with it

>>16506422
>You're not going to have an american craftsman house with shingles, lumber and drywall.
Not with that attitude!

>>16506422
>houses
More important for industrialization is factories, which on Earth are very flat and have a huge footprint. Bubble is the only thing that meets the needs for Elon's goal of self sufficiency.

/sfg/ is ALIVE

>Light gravity
>Almost no air resistance whatsoever
>Nearly half the planet is just flat as a fucking pancake waiting for you to build tracks in 1000km long dead straight lines

Iron rails will be the first product of martian metallurgy. Scoop up the iron rich soil, blast with arc, pour into rail mold. Sleepers can be iron too. Feed them to auto track layers (already exist) and off you go. They use steel on earth because of wear on the tracks. We have low gravity and 0 corners in sight so iron will do perfectly fine. Trains could go FAST too without corners, steep grades and air resistance. Regular ass train could prob get up to 1000mph pretty easy. Earth atmosphere is the big gay frfr.

>>16506431
>no air
>no zoning
>no standards
>no inhabitants
>nothing sacred
A rail line as long as the United States is wide with carry 9m wide trains across the planet at 1000mph. This WILL happen and it can no longer be stopped

>>16506435
Starships chopped in half and bolted on to a rail bed would be a good standard size. Kino.

>>16506342
hey rocket whore, you ready to get fucked by me in all your holes? useless slut

/sfg/가 죽었습니다.

>>16506469
아니

>>16506426
Nuclear-powered tunnel machine Dwarf Fortress. The machines can be used to excavate large areas underground, not just dig single tunnels. This is why the Boring Company exists—to take the entire infrastructure and logistics industry that exists around large-scale excavations here on earth and condense it as much as possible.
ISRU is absolutely, 100% mandatory. The most accessible resources are all in the ground. To expand rapidly, Martian society must expand into the ground, and the Boring Company exists to make that feasible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ7WkQkp8sA
Japan's putting more thought into moon stuff than most.

>>16506431
Aside from the obvious transportation use, railways could also be used to create habitat trains that run in a banked circle, in case you need some extra gravity for health reasons.

>>16506480
Looks like there's plenty of atmosphere on Mars to prevent cold welding, so conventional railroads (with specialized locomotives) should work just fine.

>>16506451
NO GO

Which of you fags have 3d printed a Starship? I'm making a mobile for my son and want a decent .stl I can print for the centerpiece.

>>16506484
kek

>>16506299
this could be very good for introducing young zoomies.
it will cement starship as the shuttle of their youth.

>>16506451
no babies for the colony and we're boned, so she is very much useful.
if you spurt in her and we find out your seed is infertile, you're going straight into the hydrolox factory.

>>16506513
i wont let you down SIR

>>16506431
You don't realize how ass of a material pure iron is. Please just alloy it. It's not that hard.

>>16506431
>>16506540
Most pure materials are absolute garbage, like aluminum. Basically all aluminum is actually a good percentage copper alloy.