/sci/ - Science & Math

proof that being a space youtuber has no value unless its for spacex

1st for wood spacecrafts.

>>16494696
more like phillip slop haha

>>16494696
If they erected 1/5th of a SRB half as often as SpaceX flings a flaming steel garbage can into the pacific then maybe people would pay attention
Side note, arguing with autistic oldspace boomers in his comments is very fun (<--- you can do this too)

>>16494691
I am forgotten

>>16494705
why is it silver? are they abandoning carbon composites and switching to steel? if so its so over for neutron kek.

>>16494708
Nah lol that was the mk1 design. It was originally metal.

>>16494702
wqhy does it look so real? whichever cg artist made this is goated.

why does the orion capsule need a heat shield at all anyways

>>16494711
Most scientists agree that astronauts should be reusable.

Throw Muskrats in the LEO brig

>>16494713
humiliation ritual

Simply alter the properties of the vacuum around your ship to increase the speed of light, that way you're never trying to exceed it

I hate Elon so much

>>16494710
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/gR9QNQ

>>16494726
incredible stuff

>>16494725
body shaming is bad.

>>16494715
but you would have to fly them at least 10 times to make economic sense, though

>>16494721
based false-vacuum drive CHAD

Zhuque-2E Y1 in about 50 mintes

>>16494726

>>16494696
>>16494713
Starship/Orion is such an absurd arrangement it hurts my brain.

>>16494741
>American astronaut height-mogging the chinaman
lololol

>>16494741
oh right that's a soviet. I'm tired.

>>16494725
>>16494728
Leftists invented "body-shaming is bad" so they could monopolize it and then use it on people they hate.

>>16494743
Artemis is proof that the product of an organization always looks like its org chart.

>>16494725

ZQ-2E Y1 launch success

>>16494760
The payloads are Guāng chuán 01&02

https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1861597277141500317
>We got another ZQ-2E at next month.

Japan mogged

>>16494771
>>16494773
The Chinese are extremely strong and confident.

>>16494760
>>16494771
>>16494773
why should i care about this

>>16494773
holy crap. this better be a rainy day or fog

>>16494773
"Land Your Dream In Space"

I'm always impressed by western cultural dominance.
Like, could you imagine an american rocket, launching in america, for american customers, plastered with chinese characters?
Insane.

>>16494777
China's trying really hard but I can't escape the feeling they're spinning their wheels. 50% of their launches are still old style hypergolics, and the rest are split pretty evenly between new cryogenics and solid fuel designs. The LM-5/6/7 were supposed to replace the 2/3/4s but they've been flying for a decade and they can't seem to compete on cost or cadence. Now they've got dozen new rockets in development all competing for the same spot in the launch market.

>>16494782
kek
I'll give you a hint, it rhymes with fog...

>>16494782
never been to China anon? lol
LA used to be like that before emissions standard were a thing

>>16494786
https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1861601051599884612
https://weibo.com/tv/show/1034:5105271127605290?from=old_pc_videoshow

Video

>all competing for the same spot in the launch market.
It is a Starlink sized spot, however.

>>16494791
>all competing for the same spot in the launch market.
They're not actually competing

>>16494786
Remember that Zhuque-2 is the first methane-fueled rocket to reach orbit and deliver a payload. Starshipbros...

>>16494796

>>16494788
Their whole dress and fashion is European in origin, even their political leadership dress themselves in the way of white people. The cultural domination is so thorough most people never even stop to think about it.

>The suit's origins trace the simplified, sartorial standard established by the English king Charles II in the 17th century, following the example of his one-time host King Louis XIV's court at Versailles, who decreed that in the English Court men would wear a long coat, a waistcoat (then called a "petticoat"), a cravat (a precursor of the necktie), a wig, knee breeches (trousers), and a hat. The paintings of Jan Steen, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, and other painters of the Dutch Golden Era reveal that such an arrangement was already used in Holland, if not Western Europe as a whole.
>The current styles, founded in the Great Male Renunciation of the late 18th century, sharply changed the elaborately embroidered and jewelled formal clothing into the simpler clothing of the British Regency period, which gradually evolved to the stark formality of the Victorian era. In the late 19th century, it was in the search for more comfort that the loosening of rules gave rise to the modern lounge suit.

>>16494798
*technically* the only operational Methane fuelled launcher right now

>>16494807
not so fast

>>16494807
starship took a plushie payload to a 50km x ~200km orbit on flight 6
try again bugman

Succesful S2 restart and deorbit burn.
T0 at 10:00:03.304 UTC+8
Satellites are "LEO constellation technological demonstrators"

>>16494812
>didn't separate
ohnonono

>>16494815
chinese pebbles......

>>16494721
luminiferous aether is back in style

>>16494817
what fucked up lens is this

>>16494809
won't launch this year
guaranteed

As far as I can tell, upcoming Chinese megaconstellation launches :

11/30 CZ12 Guowang batch 1 (according to an announcement back in august)
12/02 C26A Qianfan batch 3
12/15 CZ5B Guowang batch 2 (polar)
12/2nd half CZ8 Qianfan batch 4

>>16494828
astroonomers: "we dont have a problem with these"

>>16494812
it was 150km x 5 km after the relight actually

>>16494794
>>16494795
the road is wet you retards

>>16494781
this is almost certainly going to become the Chinese Falcon 9

>>16494839
>15 year old technology
we sleep

>>16494840
but it's methane

explain what's different between rockets now and rockets in the 60s?
the closest we ever got to an SSTO was the Atlas missile and the most efficient main engine ever built was the RS-25 shortly after the moon landings.

>>16494846
RS-25 is a 1970s hangar queen exactly like the F-14 Tomcat's engines. Raptor is an insane upgrade in mdot and thrust/area for only about 15% less Isp which is why Starship doesn't need SRBs.

>>16494830
Do astronomers and the media ever realize that getting rid of Starlink also means hindering Ukraine and their war efforts? Are they unironically in favor of that? Don't wanna get political, just pointing out that you can't nationalize Starlink to aid Ukraine, and at the same time have a night sky clear of any satellite so that astrooonomers can take pretty pictures, it's contradictory.

cut my penus off
this is my last resort

>>16494846
SSTOs are retarded in a world where you can build reusable TSTOs

>>16494701
more like philip sls

>>16494725
for you this is the bad timeline

>no visual of landing

Another successful Starlink launch, so boring it went unnoticed.

>>16494854
you have anal autism

>>16494696
Sloss doesn't exactly advertise himself, it it wasn't for his presence on that Artemis discord I wouldn't even know about his channel (which is actually pretty good for keeping tabs on the Artemis program).

>>16494868
How could you tell?

>>16494854
Kute

>>16494854
is she holding a marshmallow and starship torch?? kawaiiiiiii

>>16494854
thank you, anon

Chima is freaking incredible

>>16494877
who's Chima?

>>16494878
You know what I meant

>>16494879
你是什么意思?麻烦你讲人话。

>>16494878
It's a LEGO thing

>>16494879
but i don't tho

>>16494880
>chink chonk
not spaceflight

>>16494883
neither is "chima" whatever the fuck that is

>>16494885
wtf the fuck is wrong with you? retard

>>16494877
true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Eewd8TEWE
>>16494878
a vtuber

https://x.com/sbarky38/status/1861583637679882472
Important post in the history of rocket girls

how far we've come

>>16494697
What is the next novel spacecraft material?

Fuck the fog

>>16494697
comfy 90s rockets

>>16494890
GO BACK TO BLUESKY SBARKY AND NOW I KNOW YOURE THE SPESS POSTER TOO

>>16494906
schizo!

>>16494854
I wish I could draw

Spessposter and clearfag are the same person btw (sbarky)

>>16494904
>He took us to the Moon is what he did. He was a brilliant engineer. And in this house, von Braun is a hero. End of story!

>>16494909
what is spess

>>16494897
looks like steel will remain the champion for a long time

>>16494909
all me btw

>>16494909
Clear is my oshi, but I don't post her, thats someone else.

spehs

>>16494890
Anime was a mistake

>>16494895
I still think about how much of a non-event flight 6 felt like. Like it's cool, but I was mostly interested in how the ship will do during entry heating. Remarkable how fast it started seeming ordinary and unexciting that it's coming down from space and doing a crazy flip. I suppose flight 8 will be the next special one with the potential tower catch

>>16494897
Obviously it will be cast iron. It will further Musk's vision of minimizing production time by casting the entire fuel tanks and the plumping in them all in one go. Once they reach the larger diameter in future versions the added mass of the cast iron wouldn't matter.

>>16494919
>the iss is the size of a building in an oneill cylinder
we have a long way to go

>>16494906
>a bunch of twitter artists delete their accounts and move to Bluesky thinking they can't opt out of AI training
>they fell for a lie and destroyed all their efforts building a following for nothing

The cherry on top, besides the fact that Bluesky has no traffic, is that as soon as lefties designated it their new safe space it was flooded with reports of CP.

>accidentally looked at the sci catalog

>>16494927
We've gained more ground in the last 2 years of starship, fuck, the last 2 months of OFT 5 and 6 than the last 20 years.

>>16494935
what happens if one of those just stops spinning, wouldnt everything be fucked?

>>16494900
They were testing ship FTS and picked a foggy day on purpose

>>16494940
>what even is conservation of angular momentum?

>>16494940
Please describe a scenario in which the whole thing "just stops spinning"

>>16494945
>>16494944

uhhhh idk... i didnt really think the post through. i was like huh if the engines making it spin in space stopped that would be really bad but then remembered it would keep spinning and they wouldnt run unless they needed to accelerate it anyways... haha

>>16494946
Kindly graduate high school before continuing to post

>>16494949
im 24 lmao

>>16494921
flight 7 will be the make or break for heatshield doomerism. If the flaps still have issues with burn through it's over

>>16494950
My condolences

>>16494935
Those mountains will not look natural, only an artist can help guide the soulless engineers. Otherwise they will look like this.

>>16494944
WOT EEF UR BLOOD SUDDENLY TURNS INTO CUM????

>>16494951
Your skin contains much more melanin than normal people have

>>16494967
sorry meant for >>16494940

Nothing is happening

>>16494967
I'll bleed cum and cum blood.

>>16494946

> imagine the task of having to monitor liquid hydrogen as it flows through a few miles of pipeline—which is what NASA had to do in preparation for every Shuttle launch, when hundreds of thousands of gallons were transferred from a holding tank to the launch pad for fueling. In the Apollo days, detecting a flame from one of those leaks was accomplished by using the “broom” method, whereby workers would take a broom and walk around with the head stretched out in front of them. If the head began to burn, there was a leak.

>>16495004
I hate hydrogen so much its unreal

>>16494858
Once again
"A marginal reusable SSTO is a great reusable TSTO’s upper stage."

isn't starship block 3 going to basically be a SSTO?

AEIOU Yoneda was selected by JAXA for lunar astronaut operations
https://x.com/astroayu/status/1861621562547343844

>>16495010
old hag

>>16494807
Is Vulcan-Centaur not operational anymore or something

>>16495005
yet hydrogen atoms are the commonest atoms in your body. curious....

>>16495004
the broom method was and still is used for finding steam leaks on ships

>>16495014
how will this be done on Mars? no wood for brooms

>>16494751
It's just a typical NASA program, they decide on the vendors and steps and whatnot at the beginning
And never change a fucking thing over the next decade

>>16495012
Technically not certified for any of its near future payloads

real question what's the plan for base heating for a moon or mars base? Considering water would be a luxury so steam is kinda out.
Ammonia heat pumps look like a good option considering the wide temperature swings on Mars and ammonia's good properties in a wide variety of extreme conditions.

>>16495004
>if the broom began to burn
>that means the H2 was already invisibly burning
hydrologgs is just not worth the Isp

>>16495024
>Considering water would be a luxury so steam is kinda out
nigga what? no one is building a base where water is scarce

>>16495026
True, but it is worth the heat capacity

>>16495028
ok get water on the moon wise guy
it's gonna be as close to 100% recycled as possible

https://x.com/torybruno/status/1861735732798165356

bruno necroposting lol

>>16495032

>>16495030
>Get water on the moon
Okay
>Polar Resources Ice Mining Experiment 1 (PRIME-1) is a robotic NASA experiment that is designed to search for water ice on the Moon at a permanently shadowed location near Shackleton Crater, close to the lunar south pole. The 36-kilogram (80 lb) PRIME-1 payload is scheduled for launch on a Falcon 9 in January 2025 as part of the Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) program on the Nova-C IM-2 mission.

what even are half of these

>>16495030
>>16495035
Plus the new Chinese data that regolith is loaded with hydrogen from the solar wind, as well as oxygen in mineral form.

>>16494691

>>16495032
>Elon tweeted in 2021
>Kuiper awarded in 2022
>Bragging about it in 2024
Lmao

>>16495010
cute!

>>16495032
Some prospective buyer must have brought up this old tweeter thread in the ULA aquisition sale meeting and triggered Tory

>>16495052
well it mentions the F35 so Tory or someone else could have just searched through Musks posts mentionin F35 and he was reading some quote tweet or something, who knows

>>16495032
lol the tweet is deleted now

>>16494854
did you draw this? very cute. I was thinking of trying it myself
>>16494909
no I'm the clearfag and I'm not sbarky(I like xer art though)

>>16494725
they should call him a poopyhead and be done with it

>>16494909
sfg is like 3 people anyways, who cares

SpaceX cheesecake when?

>>16495058
Jessie looks like a potato there. Why is dvach so obsessed with her?

>>16495077
>potato for scale

>>16495058
lmao are they going to have cowboy hats during Flight 7?
shitposting IRL during every test launch from now on

>>16495081
>clear with a cowboy(cowgirl??) outfit
HNGGGGG

So get up, get, get, get down
NASA PPO is a joke in yo town

>>16495087
damn, urf is nasty

>>16495087
uhh yeah those are aliens and this is a cover story
RELEASE THE GENOME

>>16495087
very shamefur

>>16495074
I hate this casual sexism in oldspace stuff.

>>16495058
Why does Kate Tice look 2 to 3 points sexier on stream than she does off?

>>16495087
What if Urf life just exists everywhere?

>>16495087
AYYLMAOS CONFIRMED, MARS COLONIZATION CANCELLED, FELON TO PRISON, etc etc

>>16495087
Actual paper here: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/maps.14288

>>16495100
>anon learns about makeup and hairstyling

>>16494696
Just be a hot girl with millions of dollars! People don't want to hear about Space, they want to hear about your outfit and the food you ate that day.

Soyuz roll out

>>16495109

>>16495109
why does the train run under a tunnel?

>>16495105
>>16495087
Their argument is basically
- terrestrial bacteria form rods and filaments
- the size distribution is consistent with the size distribution of a single species population of bacteria
- they see evidence of growth in the sample
- if the sample had contained the bacteria the whole time, they should have seen more of them and they wouldn't have observed a growth (increasing organism count) and a death phase (decrease in organism count)

>>16494696
hearing about the (bureaucratic) minutiae of SLS and Artemis is boring
SLS is obsolete, expensive, never flies and should be cancelled

>>16495109
blizzard launches are kino

>>16494696
What must be wrong with this guy that he chooses to devote his life to reporting on this piece of garbage?

>>16495106
but the beaner doesnt look any better with all that makeup.

>>16495077
>Why is dvach so obsessed with her?
they see a woman there and they go like crazy

>>16495032
>perhaps you missed the kuiper award?

>>16495099
No you don't, nobody does you fibber.

>>16494708
>>16494709
Fyi: good carbon layups have better specific strength than aluminum (and a hell of a lot better than steel), but as a practical matter, it is much harder to have very thin carbon parts. It means that for a lot of applications, if you go with carbon, you end up being way overbuilt while if you had gone with aluminum you are closer to your target strength.

>t. compositesfag

>>16495032
he's a fucking snake, i tell you hwat

Completely reset my PC after 8 years, feels good

>>16495129
>8 years
holy shit anon

>>16495087
i want that fag who said every trip into and out of an airlock on mars for any reason would require 2+ hours of cleaning to apologise. Contamination is inevitable

>>16495087
That will literally be 10 billion dollars plus tip. Spacecraft sterilization is one big expensive scam.

>>16495129
that poor machine

>>16495130
Endless gb's of shit memes I saved for whatever reason. A lot of applications and shite too, my D drive had 300gb of stuff on it despite uninstalling every game and deleting everything I could think of. C drive was about 300gb/500 but that was mostly system and OS bloat.

It's a little smoother but 1070, I7700k, some MSI board and all I've replaced over the years was RAM, twice. AMD mongs seem to replace their PC's every two years, I love this PC. Spilt cola, cider and piss on it probably 10 times in total, still works a charm. Probably haven't dusted it often enough, maybe 3 or 4 times. It's pretty loud, I think it game me tinnitus but I'm used to it now.

>>16495135
Midway through summer I got a 10tb drive and a new CPU cooler, so my friend and I took my PC apart to give it a cleaning during their installation. After five minutes of trying to dust it gently we gave up and just brought it outside, a few minutes with the leaf blower and it was clean as brand new.
I don't know why I never did it before, it was so much easier and faster.

>>16495135
Nice build, I run the same problem with storage, I'm sure that at least 50% of everything in my PC is stuff that I gaslight myself into believing I'll read/post later
>1070 almost a decade old already
oh God

>>16495140
It is slowly getting caught out by newer and updated games. Probably functionally running medium settings on dayz and similar games. It's been absolutely brilliant. Looking at the equivalent todays card is so expensive, I can't actually afford one, would settle for a xx50 or xx60 whatever they're on now.

Just delete it and don't look back. I was really attached but I don't post much on 4chan these days and most images were just there, having to sift through for the ones I did use. I saved my giga basedjak folder though, that is dear to me.

>>16495139
It's only a few connection points anyway, they're robust. I was goiung to clean mine after spilling stuff but if it is working, I see no point.

>>16494904
armchair historian thumbnail looking ahhh

>>16495037
Ceres, Gravity, Hyperbola, Jeilong, Kinetica, and Kuaizhou are all solid fuel sino-minotaurs, but some of them have liquid fuel successors (mostly falcon 9 clones) coming as later iterations. Zhuque (currently ZQ-2) is the only one that's pulled off the transistion. Long March is the brand name Chinese rocket.

>>16494854
Exquisite work.

>>16495149
armchair historian asks underage girls for pics of their feet. hes been doing thatfor years. he is notorious for it and somehow its not a controversy.

>>16495168
source?

>>16495172
I made it up

>>16495174
damn :(

Spaceflight?

>>16495172
i knew him in highschool. he was a clown then and is a clown now.

>>16495168
lmao what is with /sfg/ and slandering youtubers baselessly, first Isaac Arthur now this guy

>>16495187
You're not going to like the rumour about Scott Manly then.... two words; child and rapist.

I heard anon sick cocks

>>16495149
Nigger ass

>>16495194
>>16495184
>>16495177
>>16495174
>>16495172
>>16495168
>>16495149
fuck you

>>16495187
Trump won, we can just make up anything now and they slurp it up.

Anonymous 23 minutes ago No.16495182

Spaceflight?

>New post notifications for SpaceX
>Falcon/starlink/shit

>New post from Elon Musk
>10 in the last minute
>politics
>politics
>politics
>emoji
>government
>emoji
>emoji
>government
>government
>emoji
>emoji politics

impressive that we've made reusable first stage flight to leo as routine as a commute to work

>>16495220
all I can think about is how much sooner this level of reliable LEO cadence could've been established given the amount of time we've been doing spaceflight to LEO so its less impressive a bit

>new post from Anonymous on /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
>chinkshit rocket

>>16495100
1. you're reacting to her vibrant and youthful energy which beams from every movement and glance. 2. Angles matter.

>>16495113
to be fair that does makes sense

>>16495100
the real Kate Tice is dead
you're seeing her hologram

>>16495139
people say to not use air compressors or vacuum cleaners but i do it regularly and everything is......

>>16495219
you forgot xAI starting a games studio

>>16495219
He's audience captured. He's put his eggs in the trump basket, which gets him the fervor and support of MAGA. But if he ever slows, or goes against them, it will all evaporate. He's walking a very thin line.

>>16495227
haven't you heard anon? All scientists are lying frauds. You can only trust your fellow anon from www.4channel.org

>>16495191
His daughter rapes people?
How sad when a father loses control of their child

>new post from Anonymous on /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
>tranime reaction picture

>>16495238
>complaining about anime while posting AI
Kek

>2024
>still calling it tranime (post 2016 election tourist buzzword)
/qa/ lost, sharty lost, go back

>>16495245
>>16495244
>>16495238
>>16495237
fuck you

>calling a classic Baroque era masterpiece painting AI

>>16495244
I laughed.

But there's really not much to talk about. Elon is clearly checked out until IFT 7, more interested in vidya and twitter shitposts. Not much else to discuss.

>>16495248
>Elon is clearly checked out until IFT 7, more interested in vidya and twitter shitposts
he just like me fr fr

>>16495246
t. Scott Manly

>>16494802
Makes me wonder how fashion will develop on a future Mars colony. Early on of course it will probably be utilitarian jumpsuits and the like, but eventually people will want more formal stuff for other occasions. Also need to figure out what kinds of cloth/fabric will be possible to make on Mars - will make make sense to have cotton plants in the green houses, or will everything be synthetics? How long before someone manages to ship some sheep to sheer for their wool? (Also gets you mutton and milk too, which is nice).

>Clear is able to do collabs with Mitsubishi now
wtf

>>16494802
>Their whole dress and fashion is European in origin, even their political leadership dress themselves in the way of white people.
lmao
You will never be British, Pierre/Hans/Ivan/Tayden.

>>16495256
>Cotton
Not cotton, that's too water intensive it'll probably be something like hemp or linen if natural fabrics are grown.

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
·
6m
And next year, Falcon is aiming for >150 flights!

>>16495233
i have heard this akshually. the flat earthers are the most reliable.

>>16495277
aim close miss close

>>16495227
It makes sense, but making sense is the lowest possible standard you could have for proof.

1. The argument makes sense. In other words, it's not incoherent nonsense.
2. The argument's position is consistent with the evidence.
3. The argument demonstrates that alternative explanations are unlikely.
4. The argument demonstrates that alternative explanations are impossible.

This paper manages 1 and 2 easily and attempts 3, but it's not convincing or exhaustive.

>>16495280
right right, this so called modern ""Scientist"" changes his or her opinions like underwear - every few months. And we're supposed to beleive them??? menawhile us flat earth chads will forever believe in the one true truth!

>>16495087
The sheer will and determination of earth life to exist wherever it can…
Impressive, really.
Are we any different? We (humans) are trying to colonize the moon and mars—natural habitats that clearly aren’t suited for us yet we are determined anyways lol

>>16495295
>but it's not convincing
so in other words, what you're saying is... it doesn't make sense... Ironic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm9NodjNGY8
>[Comparison Video] 2nd Stage Motor for Epsilon S Rocket (E-21) Combustion test 2024.11.26 VS 2023.07.14

>>16495297
>We (humans)
And how many of ((us)) are there left by now? Must be no more than a few million on this gay planet

>>16495298
No, it makes sense. It's unconvincing because it seems to make a lot of assumptions, which makes it a weak argument.

>>16494691
Why can't the spaceships be golden? Plain white is boring, and they're spending a lot money in them anyways.

>>16495296
how could i have ever doubted them!?!

>>16495308
White actually serves a purpose

Debris

>>16495312
Which is?

>>16494930
I feel the pain, let me guess.
You are an adult who "knows whats up" through real academic and work experience in science/engineering/technology, and feel like this place is infested with teenagers?

>>16495319
Thermal control.

>>16495312
Which is? (Wrong answers only)

>>16495321
Oh. That's a shame.

https://x.com/Arianespace/status/1861730974481977724
>FLIGHT VV25: LAUNCH POSTPONEMENT
>Due to the need to conduct further precautionary checks and activities on launcher preparation and finalization, the VV25 launch, originally scheduled for December 3, 2024, from Europe’s Spaceport, in Kourou, French Guiana, is postponed. The impact of these add checks is today estimated in the range of one day. The new launch date will be confirmed by Friday November 29. The launcher and its passenger, the Copernicus Sentinel-1C satellite, are in stable and safe conditions.

Oh no

>>16495326
BERGER'S

>>16495322
rocket makers are racist

>>16495322
they are conducting a test on how dirty the air and space are. its kind of like when you put on a white cotton glove to test for dust after your servants claim to have cleaned the mantle piece etc.

>>16495329
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/4736
It could be worse. This classified thing was supposed to launch sometime in late 2021

>>16495322
they don't bother painting the rocket because they know it will just blow up once it hits the roof, where do you think stars come from?? thats right they're just holes into heaven
god won't be happy. it will end up just like tower of babel!

>>16495187
If Isaac Arthur didn't want to be slandered he shouldn't have eaten poop in the first place

>>16495353
poop proof?

>>16495355
it came to me in a dream

>>16495360
this guy dreams about fat men with speech impediments eating poop

>>16495362
Very sad

>>16495313
ship or booster?

>>16495362
it is what it is

>>16495365
ship https://x.com/interstellargw/status/1861832392882663568

Starship v3 prototype

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPBSzyuX_Ak
>Flight 7 Updates, Ship 26 Scrapped! Starbase Flyover Update

Forward bulkhead for Haven.

>>16495256
A major thing that they want to produce locally very early on is space suits. Normal clothes might be some chunk of the spacesuit assembly line, with formal wear literally being spacesuit derived instead of military uniform derived

>>16495320
No I just don't have schizophrenia

>>16494809
Yes we know you like to take it slow mr bezos, no need to remind us.

>>16495224
>chinkshit rocket render
ftfy

https://x.com/Peter_J_Beck/status/1861868979087876277

>>16495414

>>16495399
>alumimeme

>>16495415

>>16495418
It's fun to stay at the YYYY

>>16495416
Nothing wrong with aluminum.

>>16495415
sorry space fags generally, but thats been debunked. clearly a fake.

How hard would it be to build a Sea Dragon? or even just a half scale version (~200t to LEO) isn't being dirt cheap & easy the whole point of the concept?

>>16494906

>>16495415
can these guys stop copying space x

>>16494919
we need to start with the Stanford Torus in LEO
the O'Neill Cylinders can wait until we have mass drivers on the moon

>>16495433
>Stanford Torus in LEO
it'd reenter too quickly and it's too heavy even for mature starship. they're for HEOs

>>16495418
>So many women
Yeah I bet that launch mount is going to end up looking worse than the one from flight one.
Rocket lab is so fucked lmao

>>16495299
Impressive that they keep blowing up like that considering it's the same shit they use on H-3.

>>16495414
toy rocket, toy launch pad

>>16495244
I'm pretty sure that image predates AI

>>16495439
regular concrete could probably withstand their toy rocket

>Vindman is on the payroll of Ukrainian oligarchs and has committed treason against the United States, for which he will pay the appropriate penalty
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1861820349270335817
/k/atamites, your response?

>>16495445
back to pol

>elon is starting an anti-woke video game company
he's saving one industry at a time

>>16495450
source?

>spaceflight general

>>16495450
To keep it space related, he should either buy the Kerbal Space Program IP, or direct his new game company to make a similar game. Would be a good way to get younger people interested in Space Flight, and the iterative development process you do in those sorts of games would be great for getting budding engineers in the right mindset before joining SpaceX.

Kerbal troonflight program 2 is a cucked game play the original

There is an oddity that I have been wondering about for a while now.

Pic is an example of intelsat, but it is something I have seen in several satellites now in LEO or GEO. Why does the eccentricity cycles? I would understand if orbits circularize due to drag, or orbital perturbations would make these graphs wonky, but no, they almost consistently show a cycle in which a satellite circularizes and then elliptices(would that be the correct word?) and I can't wrap my head around the how is that possible with such symmetry, and so constantly.

>>16495455
>competing with games that have decades of development history

starting a new game company now without a gimmick is idiotic

>>16495451
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1861801046949191686

>>16495462
>anon cannot comprehend Hall-effect thrusters on what is likely a SSL 1300 bus

>>16495462
nobody cares incel.

>>16495450
>>16495470
oh boy, I hope he makes a real spaceflight simulator in 4K 60fps, I hate those kerbal things with a passion. And yes, I have seen Juno: New Origins, formerly known as SimpleRockets2. However, it still lacks several things, and it feels more like an amateur project.

>>16495473

If these were stationkeeping maneuvers, wouldn't they align perfectly with a straight altitude line? Also I have seen these on hypergolic engines too, like the ones from the Russian Yantar bus.

>>16495438
>it's too heavy
build it one piece at a time
put it in a slightly higher orbit

>>16495462
it varied by such a small amount over quite a long time

>>16495299
これは試験のために

>>16495465
You are retarded

>>16495470
>too many game studios are own by massive corporations
>uses massive corporation to make another game studio
>using AI
I have little hopes for what ever games they produce

>>16495488
Yes, but... why? It could also vary randomly due to perturbations, but no, it is a cycle, and I thought it was stationkeeping but then inactive decaying objects also do that cycle.

It's just very weird.

>>16495489
RIP

>>16495455
>They just straight copy what ever flight algorithms are used by SpaceX into the game
>every other company and nation still to dumb to use it for their rockets

>>16495495
Flyby Anomaly
Do not investigate further

Timeline of BAS

>>16495414
sir, this is the spacex fan general

>>16495495
moon have anything to do with it?

>>16495506
its smart that they are using the same module format, but do they really need to jump straight into a large station?

>>16495516
you think 1 module a year is something outrageous ?

>>16495519
why does it take 7 years to get those things up there? why not one every 2 weeks for example? why does almost everyone think in such sloooooowww moootiion?

>>16495522
you don't hate oldspace enough
you may think you do, but you Don't.

>>16495522
these agencies like to play things out for 20+ years in the future to guarrentee lucrative careers
after that they are retired and who cares

>>16495526
>>16495528
yeah ok, it's not just me then. oh well, so long as they get something done its better than nothing i suppose.

>>16495530
it was pretty classy really. i wouldn't have minded being forced to keep away from all those icky humans either.

>>16495024
electric resistive

>>16495530
Futura font chads rise up

>>16495087
PAN FUCKING SPERMIA CONFIRMED

>>16495538
I'm just a simple Noto Sans man.

>>16495024
lots of pushups and burpies. will also help with the effects of lower gravity

>>16495539
You did trust the plan, didn't you?

>>16495542
I hate cardio

>>16495537
baseboard heaters?
what is this the 70s?
are you forgetting the temps can swing from well below zero to almost 100 degrees?

>>16495548
baseboard heaters and fiber insulation

>>16495297

>>16495546
space might not be for you im afraid. cardio is officially part of having the right stuff.

i hate prebreathing.

>>16495548
You can have heating strips in the central air system. I have baseboard heaters and it's completely fine, it's the most common heating method where electricity is cheap and heat pumps aren't fully reliable because it gets too cold.
The moon is similar
>are you forgetting the temps can swing from well below zero to almost 100 degrees?
No, that's exactly why you can't use heat pumps (that and the vacuum). Heat strips have no restrictions you can just stack them if you need more heat. Electricity will be infinitely cheaper than gas since you don't have to import it. I don't really see another way

>>16495564
if they use nuclear power its going to be a non-brainer

>>16495559
I'm just gonna upload my mind into a buff tesla optimus,

>>16495570
good luck with the expanded and rigorous psychological testing regime anon

>>16495564
I was just reading about how the ISS does it and they use ammonia heat exchanger loops
so I'm sure they'll have presence especially on the moon

>>16495562
What about rebreathing?

>>16495564
we can use heat pumps, we just need to pump the heat into underground boreholes, which causes a phase change in the underground ice and then we slurp up the delicious delicious water and slowly collapse our foundations

>>16495572
why would you need that
just circulate the air
the moon is the heat sink

oh, are we on Luna right now

>>16495570
I want to be an Adrian Barbeaubot.

>>16495544
He has Marxist phenotype

>>16495581
cool it with the antisemitism

>>16495024
Solar heat thermal mass storage using random shit like gravel. No need for heat pumps when you have an entire goddamn sun shining right at you in a vacuum. Heat it up during the day using surface heat exchangers and a simple coolant loop, warm yourself with it during the night. You don't even need much becauae you're in a vacuum and regolith is a great insulator too. There's basically no temperature swings below half a meter depth either.

>>16495572
here's the paper if anyone wants to read it
https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/473486main_iss_atcs_overview.pdf

we need agnostic first and second stages. that way if your first stage gets grounded by the faa then you can still launch on someone else's first stage.

>>16495587
NOBODY WANTS TO READ YOU STUID BLOG, INCEL

>>16495592
they will call you an incel, but never why

>>16495592
you eat paint chips as a kid?
that's NASA approved oldspace tech chud
better take off your hat and show respect

>>16495581
He was a good Yorkshire lad, not a trace of 4 by 2 in him

so i guess we gotta go to spacexmasterrace for discussion on reddit now? threads get removed if trump is involved in any way.

>>16495613
Musk should buy reddit

>>16495613
time for spacexloungelounge

>>16495613
average /sfg/ regular

>>16495613
I haven't been on reddit since 2014
what's your malfunction?
what could even draw you there

>>16495590
Need a universal stage diameter and docking mechanism for that to start. Starship wont do it because the diameter is at least 3x too small. Maybe in 20 years when galaxyship exists it will make 64m the universal stage diameter. whoever wants to send a surface base directly to pluto will make a custom stage to go on top.

do youtubers avoid trump in their spaceflight videos? i bet its a trigger word for some of them.

>>16494904
Based

>Falcon's 375th overall landing
lmao

>>16495628
soon
New Glenn first landing

>>16495629
Dude, get some shit into orbit first before you start having delusions of grandeur.

>>16495562
postbreathing EVA suits

>>16495628
>SpaceX: 375
>Rest of the entire world combined: 0
lol

>>16495640
>>16495628
well its a useless party trick soo....
unless you are going out of your way to ruin the nightsky for astronomers.

>>16495640
no client could ever make use of so many launches

>>16495643
>useless party trick
the funny part is that there are actual retards that say this without an ounce of irony lol

>>16495613
I dunno m8 have you tried not being a fucking redditor?

>>16495652
when f9 booster first landed the takeaway from normies was exactly that. it was seen as a disgusting waste of money to show off by those few who even knew about it

>>16495656
I'm glad that they'll always be observers to history and have little to no effect on anything in spaceflight

>>16495656
That reminds me of
>Schrödinger's SpaceX: SpaceX is a fraud and NASA did it all decades ago already, but all the hard work was done by the engineers, and they are the ones who should be credited. Did I forget to say that SpaceX is still a scam? Yeah, also, the engineers did all the work, not Musk.

>>16495613
>leldit
you get what you fucking deserve

>>16495613
>discussion on reddit
Literally why are you even trying? Why punish yourself by going to that god forsaken website?

>>16495616
That is too toxic to fix, even for Elon.
But definitely he should get MSNBC for the lulz.
>Must Sell Now Before Christmas

>>16495683
>That is too toxic to fix, even for Elon.
Simply shutting it down would be worthwhile.

>>16495613
>spacexmasterrace
unironically a decent subreddit, one of the few remaining places along with sfg that doesn't suffer from EDS

>>16495684
And risk ANOTHER great migration? have you forgotten about tumblr?

>>16495686
they're already here

>>16495686
If they can be convinced to join блycкий, maybe that might work.

>>16495692
oh yeah, I forgot about that place for a second lol

>>16495683
That's exactly what people said about Twitter, but it's turned around nicely. Reddit's problems are wide-spread but they're far from unfixable

>>16495688
we still have the discord. the moderation team is quite good at detecting redditors

fags

>>16495705
Can I have an invite link? My name is Rupert#4952

>>16495710
sent :^)

what do you guys talk about anyways in the discord

>>16495426
I haven't followed in a while. Is that real? Very likely not, judging by the condition, but just maybe I missed something cool.

>>16495613
>leddit
Commies run the site and they hate Musk

>>16495739
>concept render
https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1861832848958771535

>>16495739
that's a rendering for what they plan to do in the future

>>16495740
according to /g/, reddit loves musk

>>16495744
Its called gaslighting trannies. Nothing that comes out of communists mouth can be trusted to be true except that its true lies. Often opposite is true.

>>16495744
Reddit used to love Elon, now they hate him.

>>16495728
gay anal sex tips

>>16495755
nah we save that for the IRC

according to /g/, reddit loves cock

>>16495755
ass-to-ass is the kino refuelling procedure, I don't care what others say

>>16495728
The joke is that it doesnt exist. Think cubic kilometer. Or Clears supposed womanhood

>>16495761
>those leg compartments
i want all starships to have legs at all times. I dontgive a fuck about the saved mass. fine, land it with the catch points onthe twoer, but still have legs!
my non aestetics justificationis that having legs gives you emergency deorbit capability over anywhere where there is land. andif the DODever want to do point to point with starship then it needs legs.

>>16495766
how heavy would starship legs would be anyways? as a comparison, falcon 9 legs supposedly weigh around 2 tons in total.

>>16495766
>>16495769
the 2 issues are design and rapid reusability if I'm not mistaken, it's just more convenient to catch with the tower.
for now at least, since they'll need legs to land on Mars

>>16495769
HLS legs will probably be so much heavier than F9 legs, by a long shot

porn

someone finally did it
long range rc cars, boats and planes will soon be more viable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmj0qeOVcsk

>>16495773
hls only has to land under lunar gravity so why would the legs be heavier?

>>16495771
when we get legs I hope they go for something more unorthodox like picrel

>>16495784
having the forward kegs stowed on the back like that is clever

>>16495544
Trust the plan? I. AM. THE PLAN.

>>16495784
That feels pretty risky when launching.

>>16495787
I've been enamoured by this design ever since I first saw it, I can almost see the legs unfolding mid fall like a switchblade

>>16495784
I swear I've seen here some Starship render with insect-like legs, can't find it right now