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Cancel SLS - edition

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>> No.16487738
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https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1859378696735556032

>> No.16487746

>>16486985
What the fuck is this tweet? Like did anyone there including the person who posted it watch the video? Elon answers immediately and doesn't turn to ask another engineer. Why would someone lie and just post the video proving its a lie with their lie?

>> No.16487747
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Zubrin

>> No.16487748 [DELETED] 
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>>16487746
The left cant make up it's mind over musk being a bond villain or him being stupid but succesfull because of money from his fathers fictional diamond mine

>> No.16487751 [DELETED] 

>>16487748
BlueAnon schizos are so lame compared to QAnon

>> No.16487753 [DELETED] 

>>16487748
I remember people claiming thunderf00t is pro-trump and actually agrees with elon's politics but i guess they were lying about that too

>> No.16487755 [DELETED] 
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Rocket Man Bad!

>> No.16487757 [DELETED] 

>>16487755
>nazi
Elon is a good goyim

>> No.16487758

4chan now supports mp4 btw

>> No.16487759

Would it even be possible to land something on Sedna and have it be functional? Let alone outer solar system bodies? Surely the input latency would be so massive that it would be impossible.

>> No.16487760
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Why does it always come back to tesla stock with these people?

>> No.16487762

>>16487760
Because Musk "skepticism" started with Tesla and stocktards, in this case shorters, are obsessed with him.

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>>16487755
always has been

>> No.16487768
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What would it take for Bezos to give up on launchers and focus on space stations? Would he rather die without seeing his dream realized, than just using SpaceX to launch his hardware? I don't understand. If I was in his position I would've built Orbital Reef using Falcon 9 already. Does he care about space at all? Or does he care but his ego matters more?

>> No.16487769

>>16487768
>Does he care about space at all?
hahaha
No.

>> No.16487771

>>16487768
the actions he takes, this seems to be about clout and ego more than the importance of the achievements themselves
you can see it in the fact that he wasn't involved with BO until a year or two ago, i.e. he didn't really give a shit about it

>> No.16487774

>>16487738
I wonder why some are less "lit up" than other

>> No.16487776
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>>16487768
>Would he rather die without seeing his dream realized, than just using SpaceX to launch his hardware?
Yes. Reminder that the board of Kuiper got mad because he refused to launch on Falcon 9.

>> No.16487778

>>16487768
>Or does he care but his ego matters more?
It's not so much his ego as his own identity thats at stake here. It's been known for a while that bezos wanted to do this since childhood. He sees himself as the space guy. So when someone else actually becomes the thing he wants to be then it's a threat to his self-conception.

>> No.16487783

>>16487768
>Or does he care but his ego matters more?
His ego.
Just look at that whole thing about the old saturn 5 rocket engines he had a crew pick up from the bottom of the ocean.
That entire docu was one big circlejerk about how he is such a space visionary, but at the same time articles were leaking out that blue origin was in trouble because bezos put yes men in control of the company who only knew how to run warehouses and abuse their staff.

>> No.16487785

>>16487769
>>16487771
>>16487776
>>16487778
>>16487783
Well, bummer. He definitely has more liquidity than Musk, I'd have to guess several times more considering their very different positions. His cash could've been a real help to SpaceX. Building his giant space stations between Mars windows would've been a cool way to keep up the cadence. I'm not nearly as optimistic about cylinders and asteroid mining as I am about Mars, but the sooner we get them figured out the sooner we can stick an Orion drive on the back. His work could've still been remembered by history

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i dont know or understand any of the technical stuff behind spaceflight, but i love it anyway

>> No.16487787
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>>16487786
I stay for the cute anime rocket girls.

>> No.16487788

>>16487768
All Bezos cares about is appealing to his own vanity, he’s put his midlife crisis on full display for the entire world and it’s pathetic. That webm of him blasting champagne at his horrifying demon bimbo wife while William Shatner sits solemnly after they’ve both experienced one of the most profound things a human can go through shows he doesn’t actually care about space and just wants to appear like a cool billionaire

>> No.16487789

>>16487786
Try reddit then, tard

>> No.16487792

>>16487789
Reddit is for the people who dont know what they are talking about but still feel a need to to do so.
That anon at least is honest.
Now fuck off newfag.

>> No.16487793
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>>16487788
And what is that vanity worth when set against the infinite future of space? Pic related, the lunar rotor city I designed, with Jeff Bezos' yacht in the water, bottom left (actually scaled to Bezos' yacht specifically)

>> No.16487798

>>16487793
What happens if you jump in this.

>> No.16487799

>>16487760
every single critique of Starship here revolves around it having not achieved something yet, why do they struggle so much with extrapolation?

>> No.16487800

Babe wake up, an ICBM was just actively used for war for the first time in history

>> No.16487801

has there been any info when the first starship using raptor 3 engines will fly?

>> No.16487802

>>16487800
Source?

>> No.16487803

>>16487801
no

>> No.16487804

>>16487800
US officials debunked this.

>> No.16487805
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>>16487798
if anon will supply the radius and rotation rate you can plug them into this
https://www.tomlechner.com/outerspace/

>> No.16487810

>>16487804
Seems to be nothing more than ukrainians coping about how a missile got past their air defense.

>> No.16487812
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>>16487802
The US is contesting the intelligence. But Ukr is saying an RS-26 was used. Probably just a cope lol
Nothing ever happen and solid rockets are gay anyways

>> No.16487817

>>16487798
Pretty much the same as on Earth
>>16487805
240 meter radius at 0.2 radians per second. Combined with lunar gravity the ~11° slopes at the edges are a full 1g

>> No.16487819

>>16487800
If starship launches from texas, orbits the world and then bellyflops right in to the FAA office, is it also a ICBM?

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>>16487800
Wew

>> No.16487824
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>>16487812
>Nothing ever happen
only goalpost movers say that

>> No.16487837

>>16487823
So these where ICBM's with multiple warheads?

>> No.16487839
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>> No.16487840
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>>16487823
Oh fuck, the goa'uld are here.

>> No.16487841

>>16487839
Did BO ever end up buying ball aerospace?

>> No.16487842 [DELETED] 

they're trying to push us into nuclear war to prevent us from colonizing space

>> No.16487844 [DELETED] 

>>16487842
Why?

>> No.16487847 [DELETED] 

>>16487842
God I hate /pol/ posters so much

>> No.16487849 [DELETED] 

>>16487842
Are the Russians very irrational and have a desire desire to stop existing? If not then nothing is going to happen. If they are then nuclear war is near inevitable no matter what.

>> No.16487850

>>16487823
Did they launch duds?

>> No.16487851 [DELETED] 

>>16487842
So true, anon. We should send more weapons to Ukraine to prevent Russia from starting WW3.

>> No.16487852
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>>16487774
if you look at a photo of the engines before they're fired, some are naturally a darker shade inside

>> No.16487856

>>16487852
Test fired?

>> No.16487857

>>16487856
mixed race engines

>> No.16487859

>>16487850
Yes, unarmed ones. Just kinetic energy here

>> No.16487861

>>16487840
indeed

>> No.16487863

>>16487837
MIRV? yes

>> No.16487866
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>>16487758
testing...

>> No.16487868

>>16487800
It wasn't ICBM, already denied by US.

>> No.16487870
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IFT-6 as seen from the ISS, with any luck they'll be better video than what was available through the public feed
>https://x.com/astro_Pettit/status/1859574336186675524

>> No.16487873

>>16487736
Have we heard anything about the banana yet? Did it survive?

>> No.16487876
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spehs

>> No.16487879

>>16487758
>Error: Maximum allowed video duration is 120 seconds.
I understand file size limit but why a video duration limit?

>> No.16487880

>>16487876
Wtf is this monstrosity? Almost looks like the SLS with a little starship taped to the side. Who made this render?

>> No.16487881

>>16487866
:O

>> No.16487883
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>>16487876
disgusting, here you have a real spaceplane

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_igVSf6tyJs

total SLS death

>> No.16487885
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>>16487876
>>16487883
TFW no shuttle reboost mission to Skylab
TFW no shuttle-buran docked to Mir at the same time

>> No.16487886

>>16487879
there are standards

>> No.16487888

>>16487885
why didn't nasa ever bother to pressurize the entire space shuttle payload bay for some launches? that would've added almost 300 more cubic meters of space, are they stupid?
>inb4 it's not that easy in lifesupportry

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>>16487886
What do you mean by that?

>> No.16487891

As NASA increasingly relies on commercial space, there are some troubling signs
>There are growing concerns about the sustainability of this strategy, though. Some contractors are struggling financially, and others have bowed out of commercial programs entirely. Inside the space agency, too, there appears to be some pushback against these private space initiatives, with agency officials seeking more control. Some key commercial space leaders have left or been edged out of the agency, leaving questions about who will champion these programs. In short, after nearly two decades, NASA’s commercial space efforts are starting to show some cracks.
>The problem is that NASA has gotten away from the guiding principles that led to success with the early cargo and crew programs.
>Some of the new commercial programs have skipped the COTS development phase entirely and have gone directly into the services phase—even though the contractors are still developing their hardware. NASA also appears to be funding a far lower share of costs than it did during the cargo and crew programs. Additionally, many of the new programs do not have any near-term customers except the government, so NASA is not one of many customers—it is the only customer.
>And perhaps most importantly, NASA is loading the companies down with requirements. NASA is adding requirements, changing them, and burdening contractors with thousands of requirements rather than hundreds.
>“They have shoved a cost-plus contract into a fixed-price environment,” one senior government source said. “Instead of a lean contract, there are thousands of requirements for something that has no other customers.”
>Added an official from a commercial space company working on a fixed-price contract with NASA: “It certainly feels like a lot of people are treating us like we’re a cost-plus contractor."
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/11/as-nasa-increasingly-relies-on-commercial-space-there-are-some-troubling-signs/

>> No.16487892

>>16487890
if the filesize is limited but the playtime is not, the possibility exists that we may be exposed to a moving postage stamp sized video several hours long, and THAT cannot be ricked or tolerated

>> No.16487893
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>>16487891
>The cost of fixed price
huh

>> No.16487894

>>16487888
because the doors had to be open all the time while in orbit?

>> No.16487895

>>16487893
nasa is making it harder for companies to complete the contracts. the requirements are too much for newspace companies, and the money too low for oldspace companies, so its becoming very ineffecient and useless.

>> No.16487896

>>16487891
Hopefully the new admin is going to fix that.

>> No.16487899

>>16487894
kek, I meant in missions where they wouldn't be deploying any payloads, just chilling inside as if it were a space station. they could dedicate one of the orbiters, say endeavor or discovery, for this, so that they don't have to add and remove the extra ECLSS all the time.

>> No.16487900

I've extracted the original size of the sonic boom maps from the pdf

>> No.16487902

>>16487895
it would work if every company was spacex

>> No.16487903
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>>16487899
it was designed to be modular you dope

>> No.16487905

>>16487903
we were fucking ROBBED

>> No.16487906

>>16487902
i was wondering if the companies working on these projects could hire spacex or some other company to help them get the contracts done

>> No.16487907

>>16487849
we know the answer to that for at least the mobics on the ground, and the answer is yes
but I don't think the men holding the keys to the kingdom feel the same way

>> No.16487909
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>>16487823
What the fuck? Those don't look like MIRVs

>> No.16487910

>>16487899
NTA but the payload bay doors HAD to open on the Shuttle no matter what. It’s the only way the radiators could work. If the doors got jammed, it would abort the mission and the orbiter had to return to Earth.
The closest thing to what you are describing would be SpaceHab

>> No.16487911

>>16487895
then just make the requirements laxer, easy
if no one else except spacex is able to compete, then make the competition easier and have multiple providers so other companies get a lifeline
should still be much cheaper and better than cost+ to oldspace

>> No.16487918

>>16487768
"Elon Musk wants to colonize space. Jeff Bezos wants to be the guy who colonized space."
-an anon from /sfg/
It's his ego.

>> No.16487919

>>16487888
it was called spacelab https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacelab

>> No.16487922

>>16487852
trypophobia

>> No.16487923
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859605758091894795
>To be clear, I have not done any media interviews and this is not actually my checklist.
>I am trying to make life multiplanetary to maximize the probable lifespan of consciousness. Some of the items below are needed for that.

>> No.16487925

>>16487893
>paid for a certain product or milestone
>start adding all sorts of bullshit and meddling and other nonsense that isn't covered in the contract
>companies can't say no since its the only show in town

>>16487902
spacex can say no to too much bullshit or just back out of the contract because they have their own business
If you are some start up in 2024 and your only revenue is NASA then you have to jump through the hoops till bankruptcy

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https://x.com/DimaZeniuk/status/1859319056005820647

>> No.16487927

>>16487925
so the problem isn't fixed price contracts, its retarded NASA bureucrats

>> No.16487930

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PpxSk6RjWc
The launches never stop
Starlink going up in T-48:00

>> No.16487931

>

“I don't know if they understand what they're doing,” a private industry official said. “The government's really got to look at itself. They’ve got to continue to strip it down and keep the focus on ‘how do I get this hardware out?’ They do that by being very, very, very thoughtful about how they're managing the contract. They’ve always got to be thinking, ‘How do I reduce my overhead on the contract?’ It forces you to be very deliberate in all aspects of your product, program, and project management related to that service. And honestly, if you do that, guess what? You get more hardware for your dollars.”

>> No.16487932

do you think trump's nasa will pay more respect to the advice of the oig? if he wants a moon landing this term he can't have any more schedule slips

>> No.16487939

>>16487931
>the ratio of NASA engineers working on a program is essentially 1:1 with those of the private contractors
this is completely insane
Why are they hiring contractors at all in the first place if your "management" team is bigger than the full time contractors team ????

>> No.16487944 [DELETED] 

>>16487748
Lefties always display the mental gymnastics of thinking their opposition is terminally retarded but also extremely threatening at the same time. Kind of says a lot about them if they keep losing to retards tbqh.

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>>16487892
?

>> No.16487948

>>16487947
kek

>> No.16487949 [DELETED] 
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>>16487755
>Rocket Man Bad!

>> No.16487951

does HR ask question to people on job interview for positions at SpaceX?

>> No.16487952

>>16487909
How hard is it to intercept these bad boys?

>> No.16487954

>>16487951
that's kind of their job right

>> No.16487959

>>16487954
so what do they ask?

>> No.16487965 [DELETED] 

>>16487757
As is Trump

>> No.16487966

>>16487866
Never thought I'd see the day

>> No.16487970

>>16487947
this is the kind of irresponsible vandalism that such rules are designed to prevent

>> No.16487971
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Chinese crewed moon landing hardware tests
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1859478790004670649

>> No.16487974

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1859628265666904572

>> No.16487975

>>16487804
>>16487868
They don't dispute that a big missile was used, just the type. They say it was an IRBM. The Rubezh missile is a borderline IRBM/ICBM and can technically be considered an ICBM

>> No.16487976

>>16487959
questions

>> No.16487979
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woosh

>> No.16487980

>>16487974
comfy with no hosts repeating stuff

>> No.16487982

>>16487979
sir, this is sfg - starship fans general

>> No.16487983
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3 engine rats now lol

>> No.16487984
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>>16487971
Soon

>> No.16487986

Has china discovered the HD camera yet? Every time I see pictures or screenshots or in-orbit photos or lander photos or concept art it’s always some digital 480p slop

>> No.16487987
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>> No.16487988
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stuck it

>> No.16487989

another [adjective] landing

>> No.16487991

>>16487987
>>16487988
hivemind

>> No.16487992 [DELETED] 

>>16487949
It's the opposite in reality.

>> No.16487993

>>16487966
kek

>> No.16487994
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>>16487787

>> No.16487997

>>16487994
god

>> No.16488001

>>16487892
there's multiple runtime bypasses for webms
there's an entire postage stamp sized copy of an evangelion episode that gets posted sometimes on /wsg/

>> No.16488003

>>16487986
That's probably because it's been shared through Weibo and heavily compressed before it reaches this board

>> No.16488004

>all the top basketball players will come from mars
earthcucks...

>> No.16488005

>>16487760
>iterative testing is bad
>doing things the old fashioned way is good
This is why Empirical Method should be a required class to graduate from highschool.

>> No.16488006

>>16487927
Yes it turns out cost plus was a reaction to the government not knowing their ass from their elbows and adding requirements late in the proces.s

>> No.16488015
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Muskrat is done

>> No.16488018
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>>16488015
>chrome

>> No.16488026

>>16488015
lol

>> No.16488028

>>16487986
Here are 12MB versions of some of the pics taken by Zhurong, although you need to register and log in to access them
https://clpds.bao.ac.cn/web/enmanager/kxsj?missionName=HX1&zhName=NaTeCam&grade=2C

Panoramic image:
https://moon.bao.ac.cn/www/plviewer/mars.html

>> No.16488029

>>16488015
I just don't believe you, Jeffrem.

>> No.16488032

>>16488015
i wonder who the person was at mar-a-lago that spread this rumour

>> No.16488033

>>16488015
What is the relationship between Musk and Bezos like

>> No.16488037

>>16488015
jeff bezos never lies

>> No.16488038

>>16488033
love/hate, i ship them

>> No.16488039

>>16488033
Bezos owns Blue Origin, Amazon has an 18% stake in Rivian, and Amazon wants to launch the Kuiper competitor to Starlink, so we can reasonably guess what the Bezos-Musk relationship is like

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https://x.com/anduriltech/status/1859613382522900710

https://www.anduril.com/article/anduril-awarded-program-of-record-space-surveillance-network/

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This is the future muskrats want.

>> No.16488048

>>16488044
explain this program. i thought they made aircraft drones, not satellites.

>> No.16488051
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16488051

>>16487971

>> No.16488053
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16488053

>>16488015

>> No.16488054

I hope NG sticks the landing first try just to shove it in /sfg/'s face

>> No.16488055

>>16488051
It's so sad seeing all this, knowing they're going to build a shuttle copy and waste all the money on it for fifty years

>> No.16488057

>>16488055
>shuttle copy
???

>> No.16488059
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16488059

Lijian-2 fairing separation test

>> No.16488060

>>16488055
don't worry, at the end of that period, a chinese autistic billionaire will show up and disrupt the entire industry.

>> No.16488062

>>16488054
inb4 the New Glenn first stage oopsies during its static fire, taking the second stage and pad with it

>> No.16488063
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16488063

>>16488059
Actually this is the separation test
seems a bit wobbly

>> No.16488064

>blue origin was founded on september 8, 2000.
>more than 24 years later, it still hasn't reached orbit
don't worry gradatim bros, just 25 more years

>> No.16488066

>>16488048
its software

>> No.16488067

>>16488064
new glenn is going to mog starship

>> No.16488068
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16488068

>>16488063

>> No.16488069

>>16487971
>>16488051
Maybe if they get there before the US things could happen like in For All Mankind

>> No.16488070

>>16488067
>new glenn
paper rocket, doesn't exist

>> No.16488071

>>16488063
fairings can have a little wobble, as a treat

>> No.16488072

>>16488015
1) it's true and this is denial
2) it's false and musk is either lying or has false information fed
3) it's mixed, couple be a minor opinion (if Trump loses , you have to sell) rather than strong (Trump will lose, you have to sell)

>> No.16488074

>>16488048
>>16488044
They follow the SpaceX playbook where the foundational layer is software and everything is built on top of it. Traditional entities in space do the opposite, in that they build the hardware first and worry about the software after or outsource it to a subprime to handle it. This makes the capabilities specialized, but lack any flexibility to evolve and tends to require a redesign on a contracted basis. SpaceX, Anduril, couple software and hardware at its source, so that changes in hardware informed by physics, will feedback into the software layer and in turn drive innovation to allow new options downstream of its development pipelines.

It's what has allowed them to accelerate and disrupt spaces that have been otherwise strangeheld and stagnant.

>> No.16488076

>>16488066
>software
ah, so its a scam

>> No.16488077

>>16488063
The tighter the taper at the bottom, the stiffer it is, and less wobbly it is. This is fine. Look at Ariane's fairings if you want an extreme example

>> No.16488078

>>16488070
a paper rocket with flight hardware?

>> No.16488079

>>16488076
retard alert

>> No.16488081

>>16488068
no nose?

>> No.16488082

>>16487952
Very, multiple re-entry vehicles each with multiple warheads makes the job 100x harder, THAAD is the only system that might stand a chance afaik.

>> No.16488085

>>16488069
Nah, this is Apollo level tech with modern safety margins included, their missions are only set to past 3 days and have nowhere near the amount of payload/consumables that HLS can bring. They'd have to bankrupt themselves to catch up 10-20yrs of progress in the next 4yrs.

>> No.16488087

>>16488082
brilliant pebbles destroys them all while they're still inside of the missile. one shot, dozens intercepted.

>> No.16488089

>>16488081
Ram jet intake

>> No.16488092

>>16488085
>Apollo level tech
LM10 shares a supply chain with other rockets like LM10A and LM12, which should make it a lot cheaper than a bespoke rocket like Apollo's S5. Likewise, the Mengzhou capsule has a LEO variant. LM10 also shares a pad with LM10A. So at least they should be able to launch more times than Apollo did, without breaking the bank.

>catch up 10-20yrs of progress in the next 4yrs.
LM9 schedule was moved left to NET 2030, and that rocket could probably be used to deliver about 50t of cargo to the moon. The full reuse variant is now NET 2033-2035. So it might be less than 10 years rather than 20 years

>> No.16488093

>>16488092
>LM10 shares a supply chain with paper rockets

>> No.16488094
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16488094

>>16488015
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859483544612913376
I'm saving this.

>> No.16488095
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16488095

>> No.16488096

Elon is literally Hitler

>> No.16488098

>>16488094
100% not true implies that Elon is lying about the rumors being spread, not just that the rumors aren't true.

>> No.16488099

>>16488096
[math]\unicode{x1F464}[/math] Readers added context they thought people might want to know
Elon Musk is his own person, and Hitler has been dead for several decades
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
Do you find this helpful? (Rate it)

>> No.16488100

>>16488098
Your attempt to wordsmith outs you.

>> No.16488101
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16488101

>>16487823
haha they made it silly as a joke

>> No.16488104
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16488104

>>16488015
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859644231394218321

>> No.16488105

>>16488104
lol

>> No.16488107

>>16488074
impressive buzzwording, if you aren't making 6 figures you should be

>> No.16488108
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16488108

>>16488095
Teach the controversy

>> No.16488109

>>16488104
:)

>> No.16488111
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16488111

>>16488093
LM10 and LM10A first stage is mostly common, and was statically test fired with three engines in June, which you can see in this video
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1801645494902657187

LM12 first launch is probably only a few months away. It was supposed to be launched this year. They rolled out a pathfinder in July in to the newly built pad.

>> No.16488115

>>16488100
>>16488107
>/sfg/ can't read

>> No.16488124

>>16488111
CZ12 launch is NET November 30th, NOTAM is out and Wenchang space center is selling viewing spot tickets.

Also watch out for Zhuque 2E maiden launch next Wednesday.

>> No.16488125
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16488125

>16488099
did 4chan really add emoj*s? It's fucking over bros...

>> No.16488126

>>16488085
>They'd have to bankrupt themselves to catch up 10-20yrs of progress in the next 4yrs.
I've said this before and I'll say it again, the chinese will catch up faster than you think possible.
It didn't take them 100 years to catch up on electric cars.

>> No.16488131

>>16488074
The way that this is written and the word choice makes me want to throw you into a thresher, but it is correct.

>> No.16488135

>>16488125
bro is mad [math]\unicode{x1F480}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F480}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F480}[/math]

>> No.16488137

>>16488125
newfag

>> No.16488138
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16488138

Outta my way rocket fuckin shits

https://youtu.be/afLsRsd5roY&t=45m00s

>> No.16488142
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16488142

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bjfMc3RaZk
>Starship Flight 6 Analysis + Pre-Launch Flyover!

>> No.16488143

>>16487994
this is very cute. Please keep posting

>> No.16488146

>>16488067
not with a payload of 45 tons it's not

>> No.16488148

>>16488015
Who the fuck is Elon Mu?

>> No.16488149

>>16488146
more than starship

>> No.16488150
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16488150

heh

>> No.16488153
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16488153

>>16488138
Based

>> No.16488155

>>16488149
Get a grip

>> No.16488156

>>16488153
How does it fly when it isn't near a planet?

>> No.16488157

>>16488156
Magnetic universe theory is true.

>> No.16488158

>>16488156
You better get your trajectory correct or you're floating in space forever.

>> No.16488159

>>16488158
so the same as rockets?

>> No.16488160

>>16487736
Can anyone explain to what subdwarf stars are? It's almost feels like some basedentist made them up to keep his job. Also will all the galaxies in the virgo cluster fuse eventually and create a bigger galaxy than the largest one we know of yet(ESO 383-76)? Also also what's the largest/most massive galaxy cluster(NOT supercluster) known?

>> No.16488161

>>16488131
many such cases

>> No.16488162
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16488162

>>16488156
>A galactic magnetic field is a natural magnetic field that exists in galaxies, such as the Milky Way
dumb Earthling

>> No.16488165

>>16488162
>A galactic magnetic field
A what

>> No.16488167
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16488167

>>16487793
Thank me later. Yes there is a fully nude one

>> No.16488170

>>16488150
lol
just testing suborbitals, israel, dont be mad :)

>> No.16488171

>>16488167
>Yes there is a fully nude one
proof?

>> No.16488174
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16488174

>>16488167
Spinhab anime girls?

>> No.16488179
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16488179

>>16488167
why don't you fuck off to the anime section of this website. There you can jerk off to cartoon in all your degeneracy

>> No.16488181

>>16488179
callisto is so pretty this time of year

>> No.16488184

>>16488153
If it's really this simple why hasn't someone made a flying saucer in their garage?

>> No.16488186

>>16488184
I have but I can't post it here for ITAR reasons

>> No.16488187

>>16488153
Isn't there some hardcore theorem that debunks magnetic levitation

>> No.16488190
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16488190

>>16488179
why don't you fuck off to reddit? There you can be a retarded nigger in all your stupidity

>> No.16488192

>>16488190
Different anon here. You should definitely consider fucking off. Consider it your greatest contribution to humanity.

>> No.16488193

>>16488190
stop posting unrelated degenerate art

>> No.16488196

I see anti-anime Jihad is back on the menu

>> No.16488197
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16488197

>>16488192
>>16488193
likewise, sperg

>> No.16488198

>>16488179
anime? it's not an animation. it's actually an artistic represention of an O'Neil Cylinder as a fit, big-breasted woman. Check this out
https://x.com/MRMELT4/status/1792302506325754029

>> No.16488199
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16488199

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859667589817041394

>> No.16488200

>>16488167
nice

>> No.16488201

>>16488196
it's one guy. It's always the same one guy

>> No.16488202

>>16488197
u got a link to the original for that one too?

>> No.16488204

>>16488199
Do they still have those sheilds between all the engines?

>> No.16488205

>>16488202
https://x.com/MRMELT4/status/1845592485277405192
it's better with the censor.....
>>16488198
damn this guy couldn't draw aesthetic nipples to save his life

>> No.16488207

>>16488205
his DMs are open. you can teach him

>> No.16488209

>>16488204
yes

>> No.16488212

>>16488209
So when are we removing those?

>> No.16488215

>>16488207
He's also in this thread right now

>> No.16488217

>>16488125
Newfag from /pol/ doesnt know about our technology. Go back >>>/pol/

>> No.16488218

>>16488212
raptor 3

>> No.16488219

>>16488215
He should know that it's hard to ID random anime girls as personifications of spacecrafts/rockets if they're not wearing anything, which kind of defeats the purpose.

>> No.16488220

>>16488218
Because raptor 3 doesn't explode?

>> No.16488222
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16488222

>>16488215
draw N1-chan next

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>>16487748
this hurts my body seeing people actually believe this

>> No.16488224

>>16488220
because raptor 3 doesn't need heatshielding
and I guess the failure/explosion of a raptor 3 won't lead to a cascading failure, not really sure

>> No.16488226 [DELETED] 

>>16488223
Why are they so fucking bad at conspiracy theories?

>> No.16488227 [DELETED] 

>>16487748
Tbh it's a very common problem in narratives. The villain has to be a mastermind but he also somehow has to be totally unlikable (therefore stupid/mediocre).

>> No.16488230

Egyptian architecture > Roman architecture

>> No.16488232

>>16488199
>reliability
I doubt a starship would be allowed to land if even one of the engines got fucked. If they considered a slightly bent antenna enough of a hazard to scrap the catch, then you can bet your ass they wouldn't risk it with an engine. Definitely not if it's one of the inner ones.

>> No.16488233 [DELETED] 

>>16487748
He's not stupid clearly, but his skills aren't engineering/physics

>> No.16488234

>>16488222
gay ass k*rolev rocket

>> No.16488235 [DELETED] 

>>16488223
I don't get it. do they think people are submitting their votes via the internet via starlink? do they think elon can see the traffic from this and modify it?
how actually is starlink rigging the election?

>> No.16488236
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16488236

>>16488230
Keep it spaceflight related

>> No.16488238
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16488238

>>16488158
Ah, the Nomai technique.

>> No.16488240

>>16488067
new glenn exists but it isn't a spacecraft

>> No.16488241

>>16488174
that hab can spin on muy dick!

>> No.16488242

How come the architecture build by spacefairing creatures is superior to the architecture us landlocked humans built in Rome?

>> No.16488245

Any notable JUICE, Europa Clipper, Dragonfly updates?

>> No.16488246

Why not just use mercury plasma tech for space travel?

>> No.16488247

>>16488236
There's no space, night and day can't happen at the same time.

>> No.16488250 [DELETED] 

>>16488217
I'm a /g/ tourist. Is it LaTeX?
[math]\unicode{x1F602}[/math]
>>16488235
Yeah. They think the votes are going directly through the starlink, being counted in the starlink, and that Linux is incapable of counting more than one type of vote. There's an 8 minute video of a woman yapping and saying all of this bullshit that is their source. It got deleted, I have it downloaded, I'm not uploading it.
https://www.tiktok.com/@etheria77/video/7435367183166754094

>> No.16488251
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16488251

Just realized that every nightfall is a solar eclipse

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16488255

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859682220648382464

Musk is finally creating a religion

>> No.16488260

>>16488245
>Dragonfly updates
Apparently NASA is refocusing to a Starship based design philosophy. They're setting up a production line to manufacture ~200 dragonflies that will all be shoved into the same Starship. None are visiting the lakes

>> No.16488261

>>16488251
>oh no it's retarded

>> No.16488264 [DELETED] 

>>16488255
Elon does not know enough about this field to design something like this. STEM is far too separate from the humanities, and the humanities have become disconnected from actual science. The only safe bet is to continue coasting with what works.

>> No.16488265 [DELETED] 

>>16488255
cringe philosophical gibberish

>> No.16488266
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16488266

musk browses and posts in /sfg/

>> No.16488268

>>16488266
it's true but your pic is not evidence of that.

>> No.16488269 [DELETED] 

>>16488264
oh god i HECKIN love experts and maintaining the status quo, no one should ever do anything

>> No.16488272 [DELETED] 

>>16488255
He overdid the ketamine

>> No.16488276
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16488276

>>16488266
Pisses in an ocean of piss
N I G G E R

>> No.16488277

>>16487884
>F9 was the first reusable rocket, then you are going to have Starship, New Glenn and after that 3-4 chinese companies [before you see more western reusable rockets like Neutron, Nova, Terran R]

>> No.16488278
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16488278

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/11/as-nasa-increasingly-relies-on-commercial-space-there-are-some-troubling-signs/
New Berger…

>> No.16488280

>>16488278
nigga read >>16487891

>> No.16488281

>>16488278
https://breakingdefense.com/2024/11/ulas-vulcan-may-forfeit-planned-space-force-launches-this-year/

another big L for ULA

>> No.16488283

>>16488280
Nobody is reading massive wall of text posts to character limit retard. If you want people to read, you link the article and image for them first then put highlights in replies. Dont coddle anons like theyre children, let them explore articles themselves.

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>> No.16488285

https://x.com/KenKirtland17/status/1859668771348283483

thread comparing different official HLS renders

>> No.16488286 [DELETED] 

>>16488255
If I convert, do I get complementary robowife?

>>16488264
Whatever Elon comes up with will probably be better than jew demon shit, pope licking nigger toes and bringing millions of them to europe and muslims marrying their 10 year old cousins before beheading them.

>> No.16488288

>>16488284
Hhhhheeeeeyyyyyy, that's looks awfully familiar.

>> No.16488289 [DELETED] 

>>16488255
manifest destiny, the religion

>> No.16488293 [DELETED] 

>>16488289
I'm a convert, let's fuckin go.

>> No.16488295

>>16488284
welcome back skylon

>> No.16488296

How many FFSC MOX engines does China have in development now? I know of CASC's YF-215, Landspace's BF-20, and JZYJ's FY-100/200. Are there any more?

https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1858719132566647119

>> No.16488301 [DELETED] 

>>16488269
The last philosophy built from scratch that took off killed 100,000,000 people. It doesn't matter how well meaning you are. Religions evolved and concepts were discovered over thousands of years. You can't match that.
>>16488286
Reddit atheism ass post

>> No.16488303

>>16488284
Damn I was right >>16488055

>> No.16488306

>>16488167
Pubes?

>> No.16488307 [DELETED] 

>>16488264
He's not talking about a field. He's talking about a way to approach life. Academics have no business existing on its own if they dont touch grass.

>> No.16488308 [DELETED] 

>>16488301
>Religions evolved and concepts were discovered over thousands of years

Their sole function was to give dirt farmers the illusion of hope from their miserable existence and to keep women enslaved. Women have rights now and there are no more dirt farmers (mostly).

>> No.16488309

Church of Humanity Ascendant

>> No.16488311 [DELETED] 

>>16488308
What a fucking retard. This is the equivalent of thinking the space shuttle is going to the moon every month or so. An iota of research would not be unwarranted.

>> No.16488313

>>16488284
lol, would be really fucked up if skylon plans where stolen by the chinks and they succeed at building it while the bongs ran out of money and gave up.

>> No.16488314 [DELETED] 

>>16488311
Don't you have some nigger feet to be washing?

>> No.16488318 [DELETED] 

>>16488314
>V2 nonsense
Science, the search for truth, aspects of our culture and your own way of thinking so fundamental you don't even notice them except in their absence. Disregard at your peril.

>> No.16488321
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16488321

https://spacenews.com/space-force-adjusts-timeline-as-vulcans-national-security-launches-slip-to-2025/

oops heehee

>> No.16488322
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16488322

When will the first cathedral be built on Mars? I'm thinking no later than 2045

>> No.16488323 [DELETED] 

>>16488308
>Their sole function was to give dirt farmers the illusion of hope
More likely, the most important function of religion has been to give legitimacy to the bandit gangs... I mean governments, who regularly stole fro... I mean taxed them. And to deter from rebellious and antisocial behavior.

The more time passed, the better religions became at this purpose, until we arrived at monotheism and dei gratia rex.

>> No.16488326

>>16488322
It takes longer than 21 years to build a cathedral on earth

>> No.16488328

anyone got a collection of these aerospace pics and shit in a cloud drive
they're kino

>> No.16488329 [DELETED] 

>>16488301
Here's a heckin establishment philosophy for you: go forth and multiply. Humanity has already spread throughout the Earth and it is quickly becoming a world of net death versus birth.
>noo you can't have a new idea what if it's communism???
Ironically the only way you can get your way and prevent new ideas from spreading is adopting communist tactics

>> No.16488330

>>16488322
The first 10 mars missions will not end well.

>> No.16488331

>>16488326
although not reaally a cathedral, here is an example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagrada_Fam%C3%ADlia
>Barcelona Church Under Construction for 142 Years
>to be completed in 2026
the SLS of churches

>> No.16488332

>>16488326
it should be a steel tower that is 3km tall and 9km wide

>> No.16488333
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16488333

https://x.com/KenKirtland17/status/1859668771348283483

>> No.16488336 [DELETED] 

>>16488323
Retarded take. The US government founded on hating taxes implemented several God given rights.
>>16488329
My only point was that Elon shouldn't be the one in charge of it. "go forth and multiply" out of context and extrapolated out is what Elon already does, having dozens of kids without being their father so one of them goes tranny. I don't want to know what a society like that looks like. Prioritizing number of lives as fungible units of labor without prioritizing life itself.

>> No.16488337

>>16488326
If you went with mostly standard bricks and went all cast stone, you could have rapidly additive manufactured molds for the more complex stuff and have it built in the same time as any brick building. Also you could go smaller.
>>16488330
Elaborate.

>> No.16488338

>>16487840
i want a new stargate series set in the 2040s where colonists find a gate on mars and instead of air force its space force

>> No.16488339
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>>16488296
Ispace/interstellar glory too

>> No.16488340

>>16488153
It's electro static propulsion, not magnetism, its the canceling out of inertia

>> No.16488344

>>16488338
No, amazon is doing a reboot of stargate now that they own the IP.
And they will fuck it in to the ground with woke girlbosses.

>> No.16488346

>>16488001
i am fundamentally against postage stamp sized motion pictures and thats my final word on the matter.

>> No.16488348
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>>16488339
https://www.qixin.com/operation/b891d24f-6cb9-41a2-bacc-0e2d17fabcfe?section=technologicalAlls&tab=history

Original link, use google translate if it doesn't open
They made the Hyperbola 1 solid launher (which has an Astra-tier success rate), the Hyperbola 2 methalox hopper, JD-1 and JD-2 Open cycle methalox (15 and 100t thrust) and are workingon the Hyperbola 3 reusable medium lift launcher

>> No.16488351

>>16488344
oh boy i cant wait to see blue origin everywhere in the show

>> No.16488352

>>16488344
No it'll be great! Bezos loves space!

>> No.16488355

>>16487736
If sls gets cancelled that's gonna make the artemis lego set look even more stupid than it already is.

>> No.16488356

>>16488355
Who cares I had Constellation program posters in my room growing up

>> No.16488357

>>16488344
so bezos just likes to buy rights to beloved book/tv franchises and make them gay

>> No.16488359

>>16488357
His son told him not to mess up LotR
I guess he doesn’t like listening to his family lol

>> No.16488362 [DELETED] 

>>16488272
that would actually explain a lot

>> No.16488364

>>16488355
value will go up

>> No.16488367

>>16488357
The expanse was already pretty gay before bezos became involved.

>> No.16488371

heat tiles only for cargo bay and flaps
no heatshields on metalox tanks
screencap this

>> No.16488372
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Launch_System
Behold! the National Launch System. A Shuttle-derived launcher, designed to be affordable, efficient, and cheap, using existing technology. This rocket will be built across all 50 states, and will enable the US to go back to the Moon, and one day, to Mars. It began development in 1991 and... wait a moment.

>> No.16488375

>>16488372
if sls started 10 years later it would've just used falcon heavy

>> No.16488382

>>16488138
>>16488153

https://x.com/AlansMicheal/status/1857035452865237457

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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859718661889822847

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>> No.16488401

the colors on these are completely fucked

>> No.16488403

>>16488387
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1859716672623624586/photo/3

>>16488399
HAWT

>> No.16488406

>>16488399
toasty

>> No.16488407

>>16488400
we're getting the chrome sci-fi future we were promised bros

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>>16488372

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https://x.com/RepKiley/status/1859679860106613200

total FAA death

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>>16488308
>Women have rights now and
And births are plummeting below replacement. No one is settling other worlds if this goes on.

>> No.16488413

>>16488409
w-wait this is a big happening, isn't it??

>> No.16488412

>>16488409
>SPACE transportation
>Federal AVIATION Administration
The FAA, literally by definition, is NOT SPACEFLIGHT

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>>16488389
absolute madlad

>> No.16488415

>>16488409
OCST is 1 letter away from being a cool acronym

>> No.16488416

>>16488409
Basado

>> No.16488417

>>16488411
This is why you put your cylinders inside a space rock
>>16488413
Yes

>> No.16488418

>>16488387
that they have constant live VIDEO during reentry is amazing. if it can do that when coming in from the moon, well.....no more 6 minute black outs waiting to see if anyone survived.

>> No.16488419

>>16488344
Amazon already did that years ago with Catherine as the lead. I don't think they have any more plans after it flopped hard

>> No.16488420

>>16488411
Robo waifus and artificial wombs render biocunts obsolete. The future is all male and it's going to be amazing.

>> No.16488421

>>16488409
>the entire continent of europe had fewer launches this year than spacex in the last 48 hours
eurobros.... it's over.....

>> No.16488422

>>16488409
We are going to rule the solar system

>> No.16488426

>>16488284
If the Chinese stole the pre-cooler tech then RE deserved bankruptcy

>> No.16488427

>>16488420
Sounds kinda gay. Just don't let them have rights on Mars and you're good

>> No.16488428

>>16488409
HABBENING?

>> No.16488430

>>16488409
Only qualms is that I dont trust the Congressional control over SpaceX either. Its trading one regulation for another. I get the pretty words, but I dont trust words.

>> No.16488433

>>16488419
The rumor going around now is that amazon wants to do a new stargate series.
The writers of SG1&SGA pitched a new series that would tie in to the older series.
But amazon made clear that they want a reboot.
But again, rumors, take it as it is.

And for the anons who want to report me for talking about a scfi show on /sfg/, lurk longer before you do something stupid.

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>>16488322
>>16488337
The first cathedral will be carved into the martian stone

>> No.16488438

>>16488415
they should make a Bureau for Accelerating Space Exploration and Development

>> No.16488440

>>16488438
BFASEAD
uhh, okay?

>> No.16488443

>>16487746
That poster knows retards will reply without hitting the play button

>> No.16488444

>>16488438
actually would be based

CAPTCHA: SAYG0
lol

>> No.16488451

Nooglin is verticaaal
Nooglin is willlddd

>> No.16488453

>>16488059
*pomf* what are we going to do on the bed?

>> No.16488455

>>16488167
can I get one without man abs and cock thanks

>> No.16488456

did they say yet why the catch was canceled?

>> No.16488457

>>16488455
No! You Vill fap to woman(male) und you Vill enjoy it!!!

>> No.16488458

>>16488455
Yeah honestly what the fuck is up with that

>> No.16488460

>>16488456
yeah

>> No.16488462

>>16488460
what was the reason?

>> No.16488463

>>16488285
>I don't read too much into it, but with how close that back one is landed to the base, I hope they are hinting at a permanent base variant.

permanently based

>> No.16488464
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16488464

odds of the area in the red circle ever being occupied by spacex? now that trump won, the gorillion environmental agencies can just fuck off. if they have the goal of eventually churning out one starship every 8 hours, then they are going to need a lot of space, even if they have multiple sites across the US. 50/50 anons, abstain from replying.

>> No.16488466

>>16488333
>SN - 042 - A

SN - 033 - D was actually possible...we didn't make it bros

>> No.16488467
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BONG

>> No.16488468

>>16488462
I don't remember

>> No.16488470

>>16488464
I'd say about 1/2 of it happemnign

>> No.16488471

>>16488467
what is that

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16488472

>>16488463
leaving it vertical would be bad for access and radiation protection

>> No.16488474

>>16488430
I would have to see who controls the office. For all we know they might fold it into NASA or Space Force, or rebrand it as its own thing. The real problem is getting the FAA to not drag their heels on NOTAMS and shit. Since they explicitly control that, and even if they don't have the capability to outright deny a launch license anymore, they can slow roll launches by not doing their function that enables the launches.

>> No.16488475

>>16488455
Faggot, she doesn't need a cock

>> No.16488476

>>16488472
I don't know why, but this general hates the idea of wet workshops.

>> No.16488478

>>16488464
Starbase is only there to create starship and perfect the process.
When that is done it will all move to cape canaveral.
Starbase will have it's role, but the USgov&nasa will demand that cape canaveral is the major US spaceport.

>> No.16488484

>>16488285
What does he mean by "Enterprise"?

>> No.16488485
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it has red and green navigation lights on it I am cumming

>> No.16488488

>>16488475
>she

>> No.16488489
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I am owed a space girlfriend

>> No.16488491

>>16488484
You play diablo while overlooking employees with the giant ass windows

>> No.16488492

>>16488478
>cape canaveral is the major US spaceport.
a shame, I really prefer starbase/boca chica as the main launch site. after all, it's 100% owned by musk, they have way more freedom there, as opposed to using a government-owned facility, where they are subject to the incumbent admin's whims, which changes every 4 years.

>> No.16488493

>>16488476
Wet workshops are for masslets.

>> No.16488494

>>16488464
I think there is a good chance it happens, but also a similarly likely chance that it doesn't.

>> No.16488495

>>16488493
They're just efficient use of space.

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>>16488485

>> No.16488497

>>16488464
just fill in that whole damn swamp.

>> No.16488498

>>16488495
just build a proper habitat, no reason to use your launch/landing vehicle

>> No.16488499

>>16488495
Obsession with mass efficiency is an Old Space mentality. We're going to be chucking fully furnished living quarters into space with exotic hardwood chairs that weigh half a metric ton each.

>> No.16488501

>>16488167
Can you post the one with the cock? Thanks.

>> No.16488504

>>16488492
Starbase will most likely have a big role in commercial starship launches in the future.
But everything related to nasa will be from the cape, like the starship moon mission.
But i wonder if they will make the starships at starbase and ship them to the cape or build a entire new plant in florida and build them there.

>> No.16488506

>>16488499
>chairs that weigh half a metric ton each
what the hell kind of wood would weigh 500 metric kilograms in chair formation?????

>> No.16488507

>>16488497
surely it's not that easy in swamp-ry, right? wouldn't the soil take a long time to cure? maybe we have to ask the dutch for help

>> No.16488509

>>16488506
Jatoba is heavy as fuck.

>> No.16488511

>>16488464
drain the swamp...

drain the swamp...?

OH MY GO-

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>>16488506
would you a like a banana for scale, anon?

>> No.16488520
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>>16488507
>When I first came here, this was all swamp.
>Everyone said I was daft to build a starport on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them.
>It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp.
>So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp.
>But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the largest starport in all of the USA.

>> No.16488521
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>>16488513
nah I have her ready

>> No.16488525

>>16488506
>>16488499
Starship is going to make the late Project Orion dream of using barber chairs in space a reality

>> No.16488528

>>16488471
ya mums dildo

>> No.16488529

>>16488506
they will be carved from solid granite

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Elon just reposted this slop art
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859745047211802893

>> No.16488546
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WHO'S A PAPER ROCKET NOW!

>> No.16488547

>>16488542
is this for the emperor

>> No.16488548

>>16488542
greebles-bros, we won

>> No.16488550

https://x.com/sciguyspace/status/1859709146700054773
Cheeseberger sees the light

>> No.16488551

>>16488546
Go on lil fella, static fire like the big boys!

>> No.16488552

>>16488546
you know that is still hasn't launched, right? fake rocket

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>> No.16488554

>>16487975
They're saying now it wasn't even a Rubezh. It's this new one called Oreshnik.

>> No.16488557

>>16488464
Boca Chica won't expand much beyond what we've seen in the environmental planning docs, it'll remain a development site for future Starship variants plus some launches but the Roberts road site at KSC will end up being their main site for construction and launches.

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>>16488548
based eve online bro

>> No.16488560

>>16488558
Community is cancer and game is blatantly annoying to play

>> No.16488561

>>16488560
It was fine 10-15 years ago

>> No.16488562

>>16488554
I wonder if the fact that Russia developed a completely new hypersonic IRBM will finally shut up all the people talking about how all of Russia's aerospace talent retired with the USSR

>> No.16488564

>>16488276
Translation is bad

>> No.16488568

>>16488562
is it completely new or is it just a new version/name of a soviet era IRBM?

>> No.16488569

>>16488281
United Loss Alliance

>> No.16488570

>>16488561
>The game was fine during Bush's presidency.

>> No.16488573

>>16488281
BUSTED video incom-
>ULA
ah, never mind

>> No.16488576

>>16488570
*Obama's

>> No.16488579

>>16488331
>142 years under construction
this is par for the course for cathedrals
we could learn a lot about multi-generational projects from cathedral projects, for space mega-projects like terraforming

>> No.16488580

>Obama was president 20 years ago
bros... time flies so fast...

>> No.16488581

>>16488125
Cope

>> No.16488586

has obama ever apologized for invading iraq

>> No.16488589

>>16488586
>>>/pol/

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>>16488357

>> No.16488606

>>16488542
we were born 20,000 years too early

>> No.16488613

>>16488606
if youre not a little faggy baby you were born just in time to make that happen

>> No.16488614
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Oh this is why we need point to point starship

>> No.16488616
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16488616

>SuperHeavy is producing over 250GW at full thrust…The entire US national power grid produces something like 1200GW…
>The US produces ~16% of the total energy in the world……..So when SpaceX is launching Starship into space, the total amount of energy being produced in the world goes up by about 3%!!
https://x.com/ziggyfro/status/1859433827203940745

>> No.16488617

>>16488462
tower got scared

>> No.16488618

>>16488616
done&cougar

>> No.16488619

>>16488614
>just come to our totalitarian police state
>you'll be safe
>trust us, bruhv

>> No.16488621

>>16488562
>>16488568
Considering their track record with space rockets, they probably made a prototype run of missiles a few years ago, and just now fired most of what they had.
>inb4 guaranteed zigger replies

>> No.16488623

>>16488621
>MUH ZIGGERS!!!
>MUH RUHSHIA!!!!
>MUH POOTIN!!!
>>>/k/ fuck off

>> No.16488624

>>16488616
>https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/1gwiyx9/the_power_output_of_the_starship_super_heavy_at/
hmmmmmmmmm

>> No.16488625

>>16488624
Fuck off back to plebbit nigger

>> No.16488626

>>16488613
100 years too late you mean.
Industrial and financial interests have been stifling horticultural and technological advances for about that long in the name of profits and their stranglehold over western society, if not longer going back into the late 19th century.

What we're seeing now are the last desperate flailings of a dying civilization, we're lucky if we somehow avoid nuclear obliteration as a result of this fake and gay Cold War 2.0 but regardless everything is completely fucked anyways.

Basically if we can't clean the water out on an impossible level we are all going to die as a result of ecological collapse.

>> No.16488628

>>16488614
Can trump make elon a diplomat, so combined with his south african heritage and gaining a few pounds he can basically be the villain from lethal weapon 2

>> No.16488629

>>16488621
You're probably right about the missile thing, but please cool it with the racial slurs.

>> No.16488632

>>16488568
The 9M729 Oreshnik is a modification of an the earlier RS-26 Rubezh, which is an offshoot of the RS-24 Yars/Topol-MR, itself an evolution of the RS-12M2 Topol-M, which was the first ballistic missile designed in Russia after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. That said, the Topol-M is descended from the RS-12M Topol which was a late cold war Soviet design intended to replace the UR-100.

So, it's kind of hard to say. There's a lot of intermediate steps between the Oreshnik and it's nearest Soviet ancestor, but the solid fuel tech itself might not have needed that much in the way of updating. If it's being billed specifically as a hypersonic weapon the real changes would be in how modified the MIRV end of it is.

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>> No.16488639

>>16488614
no way I would touch euro soil
they can't be trusted

>> No.16488640

>Elan, I like rockets that don't offshore divert

>> No.16488641

>>16488640
who are you quoting?

>> No.16488642

>>16488616
elon "order of magnitude" musk does it again!

>> No.16488645

>>16488641
Me.

>> No.16488646

>>16488167
COMMENCING OPERATION BRITISH

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>> No.16488650

>>16488648
full autism hours

>> No.16488654

soo... what ended up happening to solid snake anon, did he manage to infiltrate starbase that other night, or did the secret police get him first?

>> No.16488655
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THERES A HASTE LAUNCH TODAY???

>> No.16488657

>>16488654
He's become one with Boca Chica, of the landscape instead of merely moving through it.

>> No.16488658

>>16488648
what happened in mid 2016 and mid 2018 that ramped up his posts so much

>> No.16488660
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16488660

>>16488658
deepening drug habit

>> No.16488661

>>16488654
motherfucker never updated us, he's ded

>> No.16488662

>>16488655
Not if the weather has anything to say about it

>> No.16488663

>>16488648
oh my god who the hell cares? he tweets more now he owns the company. so what?

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>>16488648
there seems to be 4 distinct eras here in Musk's X usage, starting in early 2014, mid 2016, mid 2018, and late 2022. these nearly EXACTLY match up with the beginnings of each Mars transfer window going back to 2013

>> No.16488668

>>16488663
it's unironically good data to track down his autistic bursts and extrapolate that into spacex, for example, to see how often and how long he hyperfocuses on starship, coupling this with external indicators such as when he sleeps in the factory, gains weight, looks disheveled, etc.
also, the analysis has already started kek, look at this >>16488664

>> No.16488670

>>16488664
nonsense.

>> No.16488671

>>16488664
Or US elections including midterms.

>> No.16488672

>>16488658
mid 2018 was the Model 3 ramp, when Tesla was being inundated with the worst FUD imaginable, share price cratered, and Tesla flirted with bankruptcy.
Mid 2018 was also the time of Thai cave rescue and pedo guy

>> No.16488675

>>16488672
Musk's adderall era

>> No.16488677

Slingshot Muskrats out of the system ON A STARLINER.

>> No.16488685

>>16488399
Saturn Vibes

>> No.16488688
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16488688

>New Armstrong

What did he mean by this?

https://x.com/wapodavenport/status/1859785637202935875?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

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>>16488688
man, they really should have painted the heat shield

>> No.16488692

>>16488688
>>16488691
>paper rocket
well, I was wrong, I admit it. it's actually a wooden rocket kek

>> No.16488693

>>16488648
this man does NOT sleep

>> No.16488694

>>16488693
if you sleep you miss opportunities to make your dreams become a reality

>> No.16488696

>>16488693
oh god, could you imagine if he managed to disrupt the sleep industry with neuralink? think about it, only needing 1 hour or less a day, global productivity would increase by orders of magnitude

>> No.16488697
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16488697

QI sisters... JWST just disproved dark matter.

>> No.16488699
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16488699

>>16488696
>"look at us robots, we're the machines now"

>> No.16488701

>>16488696
Kardashev-Type-II-civilization speedrun

>> No.16488704

>>16488696
you mean a power of 2? no chance in hell you can find another 216 hours in the day to make an order of magnitude happen

>> No.16488705

>>16488704
>find another 216 hours in the day
fire big retrorockets and slow down the earth, done

>> No.16488707

>>16488696
My brain needs 8 hours of downtime, I don't care if you figure out a way around it I just like the downtime. Dreaming is cool too, a few nights ago I dreamed that I met a tiger floating on some wooden debris in a body of water, and out of his brow I pulled a bloodied peacock feather, after which he clung to me though I was fearful of the ferocious beast.

>> No.16488711

>>16488707
I had a dream Donald Trump tried to sell me a robot fox waifu. I was at work and he approached me with an offer to invest in this new robotics company, and he showed me this skeletony, terminator looking robot. He said you can fit it with different skin, to make it look human. I said I wasn't interested, until he showed me the fox version. She looked like this: https://e621.net/posts?tags=siren_(fluff-kevlar)+
I got to have a "private demonstration" in a room that looked like the back room of a strip club - and the fox lady just told me all the things she's willing to do (including weird stuff I'm not interested in) but she didn't do anything.
Also, Trump was like 4 feet tall for some reason. I knew I wore lifts but I didn't think he was that short.

>> No.16488712

>>16488707
I also liked Life of Pi. We need a reboot, this time set in space.

>> No.16488713
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16488713

>>16488521
get the fuck DOWN from there!

>> No.16488716

>>16488707
I like sleep but if I had the option I'd probably only do it 2 or 3 nights a week. only problem is the world isn't set up for that. can't do useful stuff at 3am

>> No.16488718

>>16488696
Elon bought Twitter to turn it into Hypnospace

>> No.16488722

>>16488550
the one nonmeme space station company

>> No.16488725

>>16488688
>>16488691
Is this what's going to fly on the first launch or is this purely for static fires?

>> No.16488727

>>16488716
If I could wake up fully rested with only 4 hours in I'd be okay with that, there's enough time for a few REM cycles and for dreams to occur, and an extra four hours in the early morning would be useful.

>> No.16488729

>>16488725
it's going to fly

>> No.16488730

>>16488707
Neuralink-enabled lucid dreams. Experience months of subjective time in a solid hour of REM sleep.

>> No.16488733

>>16488730
What would be the point of waking up again

>> No.16488734

>>16488730
Wouldn't that be a little counter-productive? I mean, everyone would just do the bare minimum in real life so that they can immediately go get back to sleep in their perfect fantasies.

>> No.16488735

>>16488688
>What did he mean by this?
"Armstrong" is almost certainly a reference to American astronaut Neil Armstrong, who flew on several Gemini and Apollo missions, including the famous Apollo 11 where he became the first human being to set foot on the Moon. The adjective "new" is probably to evoke a sense of heritage, continuation, and respect for the golden age of space travel.
"New Armstrong" follows a naming convention of Jeff Bezos' space company "Blue Origin", where the rockets are named in honor of early American astronauts, including Alan Shephard, John Glenn, and Neil Armstrong, all of whom were male.

>> No.16488737

>>16488735
thanks grok

>> No.16488738

>>16488730
It goes the other way as well. Imagine only experiencing 2 seconds but you end up on Mars after 8 months.

>> No.16488740

>>16488735
Fuck off aitard

>> No.16488741

>>16488688
all his rockets are named after oldspace boomers

>> No.16488743

SpaceX should call the first Mars Starship New Aldrin just to piss Bozos off.

>> No.16488744

>New Grissom
>New Chaffee
>New White

>> No.16488745

Bitcoin is about to hit $100k. Is this optimism for incoming administration or for war? How would either affect SpaceX? If its all out war does Cape Canaveral get bombed the fuck out and essentially ground Falcon 9? And if its optimism then how does this affect Starship? Yes I spieled bitcoin to spaceflight, cry more curry munchers.

>> No.16488746

>>16488744
Imagine if he named a rocket New Musk

>> No.16488747

>>16488744
New Nelson

>> No.16488748

>>16488730
like the hyperbolic time chamber in dbz

>> No.16488749

>>16488744
New Braun

>> No.16488751

>>16488737
>>16488740
jokes on you, I was only pretending to be AI. ask a stupid question get a stupid answer.

>> No.16488755
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16488755

>>16488744
New Man

>> No.16488754

>>16488745
I don't keep money in the computers.

>> No.16488756

>>16487987
>>16487988
It really is that easy in rocketry

>> No.16488757

>>16488754
If you have money in a bank or stocks, you do.

>> No.16488758

>>16488754
ok boomer

>> No.16488763

>>16488757
I said I don't, didn't I?
>>16488758
When the power grid dies I'm gonna go outside to yell "I told you so" really loud and just hope that you hear it.

>> No.16488765

>>16488691
painting rockets is a huge red flag that the rocket company is willing to be inefficient for the sake of appearance. rockets should never be painted

>> No.16488772

>>16488745
The strategic bitcoin reserve thing is going to pass and all the insiders have been told, hence the unrelenting pump. Once it passes there is going to be insane fomo.

>> No.16488773

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859667589817041394

N1 mogged.

>> No.16488774

Atmospheric rotisserie
https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1859770758639292852

>> No.16488775

>>16488765
They could laser-etch some neat designs into the side, that might look cool without adding mass. It probably doesn't matter to shave off a few mm of steel here and there, right? Substitute woodburning for laser etching where appropriate.

>> No.16488777

>>16488774
Barrel roll should be the real term

>> No.16488779

>>16488774
too goofy to work. spaceflight is srs bsns dontcha know

>> No.16488780

>>16488775
Artistic isogrid milling

>> No.16488781

>>16488774
>rapid heat cycles
>loss of control either cooks rocket or spins it apart
not even worth tweeting

>> No.16488783

>>16488781
just don't lose control

>> No.16488784

>>16488781
john carmack strikes me as the kind of guy who knows enough about rockets to be dangerous.
didn't he try to set up some kind of rocket plane racing league?

>> No.16488785

>>16488774
guys, i think im gonna be sick

>> No.16488786

>>16488774
he posts here, doesn't he

>> No.16488787

>>16488784
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armadillo_Aerospace
>Armadillo Aerospace was an aerospace startup company based in Mesquite, Texas. Its initial goal was to build a crewed suborbital spacecraft capable of space tourism, and it had also stated long-term ambitions of orbital spaceflight. The company was founded by John Carmack, co-founder and former chief technical officer of id Software.

>> No.16488792

>>16488787
guess I was wrong, he was just making the engines for the rocket planes, not actually trying to make the league happen

>> No.16488801
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16488801

>>16488744
>New Bean

>> No.16488803

>>16488801
New Kike

>> No.16488804

>>16488744
New Musk

>> No.16488810

>>16488804
that will be Mars' capital city

>> No.16488813

>>16488804
>>16488810
Welcome to New Musk
Imagine The Smell

>> No.16488817
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16488817

>>16488813
you don't have to imagine
https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/oddly-enough/elon-musk-sells-1-million-worth-quirky-new-perfume-burnt-hair-2022-10-12/

>> No.16488819

Haha get it? Musk? as in odor xD

>> No.16488820

>>16488819
I do get it. that's pretty clever

>> No.16488821

>>16488820
Because "musk" is a "synonym" to odor XD

>> No.16488822
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16488822

>>16488819

>> No.16488823

>>16488822
who named that deer musk? his name is musk?

>> No.16488824
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16488824

>>16488822
Isn't that a water deer?

>> No.16488826

>>16488765
then they should have gone all out and left it as bare aluminum. skip the white and especially the blue shit.

>> No.16488827

>>16488823
>>16488824
it's a musk. musk the odor comes from musk the deer. not sure how musk the elon fits into that.

>> No.16488828

>>16488823
>>16488824
total deer death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEbhjrGyKuE

>> No.16488831

>>16488696
To solve the sleep crisis, you need to solve the body crisis. Its the rest of biotech that's a few decades out from that.

>> No.16488832

>>16488648
I love how some people are still so fucking salty that they still call it Twitter instead of the rebranded label it has become.

>> No.16488833

>>16488827
so elon was named after a deer?

>> No.16488834

>>16488826
all you do is complain. why dont you build your own rocket?

>> No.16488835

wtf kinda shit-ass name is Elon anyway. Like his mom made it from a random name generator.

>> No.16488839
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16488839

>>16488835
remember, trust the plan
https://interestingengineering.com/culture/a-book-from-1952-predicted-someone-named-elon-would-guide-humans-to-mars

>> No.16488846

>>16488835
It's a hebrew name. and his true surname isnt even Musk, it is unknown. his 2x great grandma had a boy out of wedlock with an unknown man.

>> No.16488853

fucking blasting blood out my anol

>> No.16488857
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16488857

We are going

>> No.16488863

Will HLS be a v3 Starship?
>>16488857

>> No.16488864

>>16488857
someone on twitter did some eyeball math by taking the known width of the ship (9m) and calculating the height, tldr it's v2 height with one extra ring

>> No.16488880
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16488880

Call your congress members to support it if you're american. This is very important.

https://x.com/RepKiley/status/1859679860106613200

>> No.16488901

>>16488880
Federal Space Administration

>> No.16488905
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16488905

NEVER NEVER GIVE UP

>> No.16488927
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16488927

>>16488880
Hey, you anons who said the FAA wasn't hindering SpaceX on purpose?
We told you so.

>> No.16488929

>>16488927
there were unironic posters in /sfg/ saying Biden was a better space president than Trump in 2020/2021

>> No.16488943

>>16488929
They’re right if the only thing they care about is funneling funding into NASA’s earth science division to study climate change.

>> No.16488949

>>16488857
I think they're going to revisit the engine configuration

Elon strikes me as the kind of guy who would eat the efficiency losses for using a vacuum engine in atmosphere just to avoid having three suboptimal engines on something that will never be in atmosphere again

>> No.16488951
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16488951

"we choose to go to mars in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard"
——starship chan, 2026, at starbase, BocaChica

>> No.16488952
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16488952

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlrH8L4jYUw
>Bringing Starship To You: Starship Flight 6 (Starbase Update in 4k)

>> No.16488957

>>16488949
Still need them to gimble with once it starts landing on the moon. Can't really gimble with the vac raptors.

>> No.16488958
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16488958

>>16488943
>climate change

>> No.16488971
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16488971

https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/10.2514/1.A36169

>> No.16488980

>>16488606
20,000 years from now is right in the middle of the Age of Strife, it's not a good time. 18,000 years in the future is as far as you want to go.

>> No.16488986

>>16488688
Wow new glenn looks like shit and is rendered useless before it has even launched hahahaha

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16488990

https://archive.is/RmfqQ

>> No.16488991
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16488991

https://time.com/7177802/elon-musk-donald-trump-2024-election/

>> No.16488997
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16488997

>>16488693
I think he's so constantly jet-lagged that he gave up on a sleep schedule and adapted to uberman cycle or something similar

>> No.16489005

>>16488693
he said he usually sleeps from 3 am to 9 am

>> No.16489006

>>16487736
Expendable rockets will be superior to reusable rockets. Don't hate me, I am just telling the truth.

>> No.16489008

>>16489006
will be? when?

>> No.16489016
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16489016

>>16488951
The cutest president. The best president. My president.

>> No.16489019

>>16488990
Is this a real photo? I doubt you could tard wrangle Elon to sit down on the floor for a photo op.

>> No.16489022

>>16488880
DOGE is off the a bad start

>> No.16489023
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16489023

>>16489008
Somewhen in the second half of this century. Future rockets will be so cheap to produce and their dry weight be so lightweight, that it's cheaper to just throw them away instead of having the delta-v punishment for the extra weight to make reuse possible, and the need for all the infrastructure required for reuse.

>> No.16489026

>>16489023
with reusable you only need methane and oxygen, both of which you could in principle manufacture on site using the atmosphere
this is not the case for the rockets at large

>> No.16489027

>>16489019
no

>> No.16489041
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16489041

>>16488744
New Cooper

>> No.16489042

>>16489022
>politician promising to reduce government actually increases it
This happens literally every single time.
>>16489023
>reuse is a fad
Tory get back to twitter

>> No.16489044
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16489044

https://x.com/elon_docs/status/1859876450113110503

>> No.16489046
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16489046

>>16489044

>> No.16489047
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16489047

>>16488744
New Young
Its amusingly synonymous and he's the greatest American astronaut

>> No.16489050

>>16489026
midwit take. Only in fantasy land does your "reusable" spaceship need no thorough inspections, maintenance and component replacement after each flight. The cost of manpower, resources and infrastructure would make it on par with expendable so why even bother?
I don't think it will happen this century like the other guy, but that's the definitely the future of earth to orbit flights. Until then? Yeah, reusable will dominate the industry.

>> No.16489052

>>16489050
>midwit take. Only in fantasy land does your "reusable" automobile need no thorough inspections, maintenance and component replacement after each drive. The cost of manpower, resources and infrastructure would make it on par with expendable so why even bother?

>> No.16489053
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16489053

starliner status?

>> No.16489054

>>16489052
HAHAHA, I fucking knew you'd use a car comparison, like the retard that you are.
>car malfunctions
>it doesn't start, you're late for work and have to go to the mechanic
>rocket malfunctions
>cargo is lost and everyone on board dies
I think there may be a slight difference between the two, no?

>> No.16489055
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16489055

Realtalk: it won't ultimately be rockets but some launch loop variant

>> No.16489056
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16489056

how the fuck does this nigga have the free time

>> No.16489058

>>16489055
just don't tell musk that

>> No.16489059
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16489059

>>16489054
Why are you talking about malfunctions when you were talking about cost before?

>> No.16489060

>>16489050
They will thoroughly test failure modes on unmanned flights until they know where to put sensors. Everything you're saying is oldspace propaganda and very outdated

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16489063

>>16489047
It’s so quaint and interesting how the Apollo program was filled with battle-ready test pilots, many of whom had guilt and felt they should have been in Korea flying sabres and shooting down enemy aircrafts, and they all had this love for cute little Peanuts lol

>> No.16489064

>>16489063
HLS Starship Snoopy

>> No.16489065

>>16489059
huh? are you illiterate? I proved that comparing cars to rockets is moronic. You have yet to show any argumentation that I'm wrong btw.
>>16489060
okay, cool? will these magic sensors also fix any structural damage, replace worn out components, repair other malfunctioning sensors, save the crew and cargo in case of an accident? Oh, they won't do that? hey, did you hear that elon will double your bitcoins if you send them to him, you should go to one of the spacex youtube streams to find out more!

>> No.16489067

>>16488857
How is this not a pendulum rocket if those superdracos fire

>> No.16489068

>>16489065
>I proved that comparing cars to rockets is moronic
You didn't prove shit, all you did was move the goal posts when a simple analogy showed how moronic your argument was.

>> No.16489076

>>16489065
what are you talking about nigger

>> No.16489078

in 100 years planes will be expendable, so will buses and trains
no infrastructure or inspections needed

>> No.16489079

So now that full Starship stacks have launched multiple times, I’m feeling super confident about the safety of super heavy. You could easily put orion on top of an expendable SH. Either keep using ICPS, or use the new Centaur V

>> No.16489080

>>16489068
the fuck are you on about dumb nigger? goal post this goal post that, how about you show me a single argument for once and lacking that, at least your opinion on the matter. All you did was say
>hurr durr car can fail
>so big rocket will be allowed to fail too!!!!
yes you cretin, if a car had a 1% chance of killing you each time you started it, you can bet your ass it would need inspections after every drive and that would inflate the cost. But it doesn't, that was my point, and so the maintenance cost is low enough for the average person to afford it. Reliability IS cost, do you at least understand that? Expendable mogs reusable there and there's no reason to think that will change.
>>16489076
if you're dumb enough to fail at simple reading tasks, you shouldn't be here and maybe not even on the internet
>>16489078
>another retard uses a terrestrial vehicle analogy
lol

>> No.16489085

apparently planes don't require any inspections, interesting

>> No.16489088

>>16489080
>>hurr durr car can fail
Thats not at all what I said. You wanna reading it again? Maybe try to find the word cost in there?

>> No.16489089

>>16489085
Don't forget he started this by talking about meme materials. Probably worth not interacting

>> No.16489090

>>16489080
>construction + inspections on a new rocket is somehow better than just inspections on a used rocket
wtf are you on about

>> No.16489092
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16489092

>>16489058
its early next century stuff, not in his timeframe

>> No.16489093

>>16489085
man, you're slow. Can you word your argument properly, or will you just use shitty analogies to hide the fact you have no idea what you're talking about?
>>16489088
>retard reads two lines and spergs out
how about you follow your own advice for once?
>>16489089
everything points to these "meme" materials becoming the norm. Reusable was a meme concept as well. Weird how that turned out...
>>16489090
that's right, it takes quite a bit of effort and time to check over every piece of a giant rocket. You only need to look at the space shuttle to see that I'm right

>> No.16489095

>>16489093
You wanna try arguing about cost like you started with or do you wanna continue to make a fool of yourself?

>> No.16489096

>>16489078
Reuse in buses and trains don't make sense because there is an extremely low attrition for each ride and also as many people who leave from one point, as much will come back to that point, in space there is a much greater asymmetry on that regard. I think expendable planes could make sense in future if you try for example to colonize Antarctica and in the future production of planes will be so cheap and low in material cost because of advancement in material science and automatization, that it's just more cost effective to get rid of that extra jet fuel that you have to carry with you to go back and all the infrastructure to maintain and inspect planes.

>> No.16489097
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16489097

Zhuque 2E Y1 confirmed for the 27th 0200 UTC

>> No.16489100
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>>16489097

>> No.16489102
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>>16489100
They've got a second one (ZQ2E Y2) in transportation toward Jiuquan, and want to launch it next month.

>> No.16489104
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16489104

>>16489097
Size comparison
ZQ2E has actually higher performances, better S2 engine + common bulkhead makes S2 more compact and more efficient

>> No.16489106

>>16489104
reuse when?

>> No.16489108

>>16489106
after reusable villages

>> No.16489110

>>16489106
Third launch of upcoming Zhuque 3, NET late 2025.

>> No.16489113

>>16489106
两周

>> No.16489118

>>16488464
didn't they already start building over in Florida?

>> No.16489119

>>16489095
>You wanna try arguing about cost
I've been asking you to do that ever since your first shitty car analogy and you STILL haven't given me one counterargument.

>> No.16489126

>>16489119
>I've been asking you to do that
No you haven't, as soon as I presented an argument showing the cost would be lower you immediately switched to arguing that rockets malfunctions are more deadly than car malfunctions, which is completely irrelevant.

>> No.16489129

>>16487866
>zhurong
pronounced "jew wrong" btw

>> No.16489130

>>16489129
>>/pol/

>> No.16489131

>>16489130
>no, you can't discuss spaceflight like that!!!

>> No.16489136

>>16489106
还有两个星期

>> No.16489138

>>16489126
your argument, may I see it? No, analogies are not arguments.

>> No.16489140

>>16489138
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_analogy

>> No.16489143

>>16488614
Elon should summon his inner von Braun.

>> No.16489145

>>16488616
I'm not sure that the output of Starship is converted into electricity with 100% efficiency

>> No.16489147

>>16489046
well Elon isn't going faster than Apollo because FAA is problems, environmental stuff is problems, and they are a private company that can't just burn billions in dollars to save a month here or there

also they have much more ambitious plans

>> No.16489149
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16489149

>>16489145
that's true for all power stations so...

>> No.16489151

>>16488688
Why is this faggot quoting Britney Spears?

>> No.16489152 [DELETED] 
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16489152

Chat is this real?

>> No.16489153

>>16488835
I still don't believe it's his birth name, he read the book and changed his name at some point. Have you ever heard anyone else in the world being called Elon? And then it happens to be the name in Von Braun's Mars book

>> No.16489154

>>16488696
>add at most 8 hours of productive time to every 24 hour period
>order of magnitude

>> No.16489155

>>16488817
How the hell did I miss this?! This is so bizarre I expected this article to be from The Onion. It is worth quoting:

>The world's richest man, Elon Musk, has scented a new opportunity to capitalise on quirky products, launching a perfume called "Burnt Hair" that he said sold 10,000 bottles to earn a million dollars in just a few hours.
>"With a name like mine, getting into the fragrance business was inevitable – why did I even fight it for so long!?" Musk asked on Twitter, where he now describes himself as a perfume salesman.
>"The essence of repugnant desire" is the website description of his latest offering, which costs $100 a bottle and is set to start shipping in the first quarter of 2023, making good on a product Musk first touted in September.
>Previous brainwaves have included Tesla's (TSLA.O) own-brand tequila, launched in 2020, and a pair of "short shorts" to signify Musk's victory over investors who bet against the electric vehicle maker, now the world's most valuable car firm.

>> No.16489156

>>16488730
>>16488733
>>16488734
People would start working in their dreams and drive the price of labor down. You'd have to work 2 months every night to afford food and shoes without holes in the bottom. You've invented Hell.

>> No.16489158

>>16488744
>New Shatner
>New Bezos

>> No.16489159

>>16488786
He's the original muffinposter.

>> No.16489160
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16489160

its safe to say that china is almost caught up with the US in terms of space technology

>> No.16489163

>>16489160
Not until they land and reuse a booster.

>> No.16489164

>>16488846
Your name is whatever the government recognizes and people call you.

By your reasoning no one would have surnames because we're all descended from men with no surnames.

>> No.16489169

>>16489164
Keep lapping up that cum dude, one day he'll notice you and let you rim him

>> No.16489174
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16489174

Uncontested Saturn V spiritual successor

>> No.16489175

>>16489054
Your argument doesn't explain why inspections need to be manual, or why parts need to be replaced constantly. Modern rockets are full of sensors.

At least make a coherent argument, like claiming that making the rocket capable of automatically inspecting itself would make it too heavy (although you could just move that equipment to the launch tower).

>> No.16489178
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16489178

SpaceX is absolutely, 100% finished.

>> No.16489179

>>16489169
>faggot immediately thinks about cum and dicks
I don't think coming out of the closet on 4chan of all places is a good idea, dude.

>> No.16489180

>>16489056
He plays while he's working

>> No.16489182

https://spacenews.com/europe-weighs-impact-of-trump-administration-on-space-cooperation/
new foust, dont shoot the messenger hes just reporting fyi. eurocucks call for REDUCING reliance on US for space launch because of muh drumpf and muh felon. why are euros so retarded that they will spend likely billions on their own non reusable rockets instead of getting the cheap as fuck starship launches by the time their rogget is developed? i bet it would be hydromeme too

>> No.16489184

>>16489149
My point is that none of Starship's thrust is converted into electric power so it's really fucking dumb to compare it to specifically electrical power generation.

>> No.16489186

>>16489182
There's nothing wrong for countries to want their own launcher, only problem is that their own vehicle is so much worse.

>> No.16489188

>>16489182
This is probably good for europe. Encourages them to get off their asses and do something for once.

>> No.16489189

>>16489178
Predictions for when it will hit 100 flights/year?

>> No.16489190

>>16489160
It's only safe to say that because we don't kill people for being wrong

>> No.16489191

>>16489184
Power is power, no one staged Starship is literally generating electricity and beaming it to the grid dumbass

>> No.16489193

>>16489189
hard to say given their company ethos and general progress, chinese companies will reach 100+ before them

>> No.16489192

>>16489186
there is a problem when the reason is for EDS and TDS instead of actual reasons. also a reminder, the only reason europe uses arianne is because they are so cucked that arianne has the entire continent by the balls and wont cede ANY territory even if when they have such a horrible fucking rocket that isnt even going right now. if youre going to make a new rocket, have it be for efficiency and cost reasons not gay shit like regulatory capture by an awful and inefficient company.

>> No.16489194

>>16489189
Whats their production like? Space manages with 12 boosters but since new glenn is methalox then it'd probably need less maintenance and thus you could fly it more. Assuming 2 boosters a year and lets say 8 for that cadence then 2028.

>> No.16489196

>>16489191
You're incoherent. Read what you're actually replying to and then try to write something that isn't word salad.

>> No.16489197

>>16489189
depends on how good they get at unwelding the legs from the droneship

>> No.16489199

>>16489189
2030/31
>>16489194
I think jeff said short term goal of 3 per year in the dim todd tour.

>> No.16489200

>>16489179
I didn't mention dicks once, but you did. Curious. Got something you want to tell the class?

>> No.16489201

>>16489199
In that case 2026.

>> No.16489208

>>16489156
>People would start working in their dreams
This is a literal nightmare dystopia.

>> No.16489210

>>16488990
Who wrote this crap hitpiece?
Are they on the list yet?

>> No.16489211

>>16489156
kek, there you have your orders of magnitude of increased productivity. musk would love this.

>> No.16489212

>>16488696
Sleep isn't just for the brain though, it's for the body as well. Your body needs that downtime.

>> No.16489214

Another exciting and thrilling New Shepard launch soon! How wonderful, to see new astronauts experience something so inspiring. What a time to be alive!

>> No.16489215

>>16489153
theres plenty of people named elon

>> No.16489217

>>16489158
New Buzz

>> No.16489218

new shepherd does not create "astronauts"
it only has passengers

>> No.16489219

>>16489214
Kys chatgptcel

>> No.16489225

>>16489178
Falcon 9 killer. SpaceX better get Starship ready soon.

>> No.16489227

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1yNGagXkwnrxj

launch in 10 minutes! why aren't you in here?

>> No.16489229

>>16489214
>>16489218
>>16489227
not spaceflight related
go back

>> No.16489231

>>16489227
Weird, the framerate is fucked on their YT stream but that X stream is fine.

>> No.16489232

>>16489227
Have they put people back on this exploding carnival ride yet or nah?

>> No.16489234

>>16489215
Name one

>> No.16489235

>>16488784
the rocket plane racing league was Jim Bridenstine

>> No.16489236

>>16489234
elon

>> No.16489240

>>16488980
late Crusade Era was alright for a human lifetime or two

>> No.16489241

>>16489234
Elon Smith. you could also look
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_(name)

>> No.16489242

>>16489234
elon tusk

>> No.16489243
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16489243

Congratulations to BO's new astronauts!

>> No.16489245

>>16489243
dude is healthier than most people half his age

>> No.16489246

>>16489227
BO streams on X now?

>> No.16489247

>>16489236
kek

>> No.16489249
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16489249

>>16488614
all this retard needs to do is start relabeling well known vatnik and chink state propagandists on xitter with the "state sponsored" tags twitter used to have. What is the point of simping for these tyrants if all it does is bring you down heat on yourself back home

>> No.16489250

>>16489227
didn't actually go to space doe

>> No.16489251

>>16489250
where did it go?

>> No.16489253

>>16489251
up

>> No.16489254

>>16489243
What a fat turd

>> No.16489255

https://spacenews.com/space-station-developers-weigh-in-on-nasas-continuous-presence-rethink/
Article on space station developer thoughts. The newest and most sane take I heard in the article was this.

>However, Vast CEO Max Haot is optimistic the shift will allow for the procurement of an initial space station module that is not permanently crewed.

>“The current way the procurement, driven by Congress, is set up is that the minute the new replacement, the CLD commercial destination, is up, it should be permanently crewed from day one,” said Vast CEO Max Haot.

>Haot noted no other space station has been permanently crewed from day one because it takes time to develop and improve life support technologies in orbit.

>“And so we believe that if the NASA procurement continues to say it’s zero or permanently crewed, all it will do is delay the first commercial space station,” he added.

>Instead, Haot said NASA should seek to procure an initial module that can be crewed for three to six months at a time while the ISS is still operating.

>“And then, as we add more modules, we improve the life support technology, and as quickly as possible it becomes permanently crewed … It’s better to lower the barrier and iterate in low Earth orbit, instead of delaying for the something that’s perfect.”

>> No.16489257

>>16488696
Eliminating sleep is genuinely my biggest dream.

>> No.16489259

>>16489255
sounds like a reasonable plan but i want to hear it from others instead of the one guy who's company has the exact same business plan

>> No.16489260

>>16489257
Maximizing sleep and getting everyone connected to multiplayer dreams where you have a sleep job and generate money for an online megaeconomy filled with millions of people

>> No.16489261

>>16489253
and kind of sideways a bit

>> No.16489266

>>16489255
>Space is hard. Nobody makes it to schedule.

>> No.16489270

>>16489266
That was IM CFO

>> No.16489284

>>16489200
>I I uhh I didn't mention dicks haha gottem
>G-got something you want to tell the class?
yeah, you're a faggot and not only that, you're also a retarded faggot. Not like I even need to tell anyone that when it's blatantly obvious whenever you post.

>> No.16489286

>>16489255
Other than government funds and super expensive tourism, whats the purpose of a LEO station?

>> No.16489290

>>16489286
methlab the dea can't raid

>> No.16489296

>>16489286
theres a lot of research being done across many fields on the ISS. 80% last year was stuff from commercial interests so its definitely not dominated by government funded projects.

>> No.16489300

>>16488834
im doing that at spacex

>> No.16489305

>>16488834
How many estes rockets do I have to lash together for my ride to LEO?

>> No.16489306
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>>16488834
I do but because I'm not a billionaire they're 4 feet tall and don't go to space

>> No.16489309
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>>16489306
Very based

>> No.16489310

>>16489300
>build own rocket at spacex
>the rocket belongs to Elon
Elon confirmed as /sfg/ poster

>> No.16489316

>>16488857
Every starship has landed with a massive tilt due to off center thrust. How will they land on the moon with such a tit bearing in mind that it cna only survive landing at a 1.5 degree incline?

>> No.16489318

>>16489316
they will make it land without a tilt

>> No.16489321

>>16489316
HLS will have seperate landing engines for sure

>> No.16489324

>>16489316
>Every starship has landed with a massive tilt
No they haven't.
>it cna only survive landing at a 1.5 degree incline?
It can survive more than that.

>> No.16489333

>>16489316
>Every starship has landed with a massive tilt due to off center thrust. >it cna only survive landing at a 1.5 degree incline?

Neither of these are true, you need to work harder on the FUD.

>> No.16489334

>>16489286
Superconductor production, many science missions that universities and research centers want, data centers, advanced materials production, pharmaceutical production, the list goes on. Also
>ignoring literally the main point that will always be there
You seem like a retard

>> No.16489337

>>16489334
>absolutely nothing that will pay for itself

but good to just keep that couple billion dollars expense every year for nothing

>> No.16489339

>>16489337
>invent one of a kind lifesaving drug that can only be made in microgravity
>set the price to literally whatever to turn a profit
>people still buy it because people will pay any amount of money to save their life
it's really not that hard

>> No.16489340

>>16489284
Oof, very angry! Not a lot of self-control from you I sense. Explains your obsession with homosexuality and homophobia. Everybody knows you have repressed urges which is why you get so frustrated like this

>> No.16489341

>>16489339
>what if magic
ok

>> No.16489342

>>16489341
how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast?

>> No.16489343

>>16489342
but I did eat breakfast

>> No.16489344

>>16489324
>>16489333
actually that is not even as bad as the NASA numbers. HLS cant deal with landing on .5 degrees. the landing site must be perfectly flat

>> No.16489345

>>16489333
actually hls can only land on a 0.0125 degree incline

>> No.16489348

12 degrees

>> No.16489349
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16489349

About time
https://www.defensenews.com/space/2024/11/15/space-force-targeting-more-affordable-gps-satellites/

>> No.16489350

https://x.com/spacex/status/1860006072091836888
New angle

>> No.16489351

>>16489255
Hahaha you fucks think this company has a future. Imagine relying on Congress.

>> No.16489352

>>16489349
>Expendable GPS satellites
this is the future

>> No.16489354

starship can land on a 40 degree incline just fine. simply put lits of glue on the landing site.

>> No.16489355

>>16488238
I'm amazed that someone had the patience to do this.

>> No.16489356

>>16489138
How does it feel knowing I embarrassed you into silence with just a wikipedia link?

>> No.16489360

>>16489351
You do realize they are explicitly not courting NASA for stays on their station right? They also are relying on their billionaire backer and founder Jed McCaleb. You would know that if you had read literally anything on them, they didnt even make the first CLD, if anything the second CLD is a bonus. They are set up to be the first commercial space station up, scheduled on a Falcon. They catch the first wave of investment that comes with the title, they probably get CLD wave 2 at that point (bonus), they have private missions and small space agencies buying up flights, the lab to sell space for missions on board, low in house production costs, reasonable goals, none of these are stating they rely only on congress for funding.

>> No.16489366

>>16489355
You pretty much have to do this to finish the Astral Codec mod.

>> No.16489371
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16489371

This is the new flag in 100 years

>> No.16489374

>>16489371
Source for your claim?

>> No.16489376
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16489376

Twitter fuck up for anyone else?

>> No.16489379

>>16489376
what's twitter? I only use x.com
and no it seems fine

>> No.16489381

>>16489376
search is absolutely broken, giving me random results. It wasn't this bad yesterday.

>> No.16489385

>>16489381
>giving me random results
So it's just like google now

>> No.16489393

>>16489356
huh? what are you on about, kid? I'm still waiting for that argument btw

>> No.16489395

>>16489393
Seems you have a short memory, let me reiterate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_analogy
>midwit take. Only in fantasy land does your "reusable" automobile need no thorough inspections, maintenance and component replacement after each drive. The cost of manpower, resources and infrastructure would make it on par with expendable so why even bother?

>> No.16489400

>>16489055
how does this thing even stay up?

>> No.16489401

>>16489395
>he still can't word his argument and needs an analogy for his zoomer mind
cute. Also I've already disproven whatever it is you're babbling about here. For homework, go read my other replies and try to understand where you were wrong.

>> No.16489402

>>16489401
Oh, so now you accept that analogies can be arguments? What else are you gonna backpedal on? Are you gonna next say you never claimed that expendable rockets will be cheaper than reusable ones?

>> No.16489406

>>16489402
>so now you accept that analogies can be arguments?
kek, you're delusional. Tell me, should I even bother with you any more? Do you actually want to talk about reusable vs expendable or just keep sperging out?

>> No.16489407

>>16489385
>>16489381
>>16489379
Lmao In hind site I can use wait a minute for everything to get posted to 4chan regardless.

>> No.16489410

>>16489406
>kek, you're delusional
Then all of society must be delusional as a cursory googling will show that you're the only one who thinks analogies aren't arguments.
>>16489406
>Tell me, should I even bother with you any more?
Seems to me you're damaged ego is your main motivation at this point.
>Do you actually want to talk about reusable vs expendable or just keep sperging out?
If you want to talk about that you should probably actually response to my argument rather than try to argue analogies aren't arguments. That might be a good place to start.

>> No.16489411
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16489411

hey guys check out this rocket drawn as a cute girl

>> No.16489412
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16489412

Just made a bski account thanks for reading my blog

>> No.16489413

>>16489411
what a concept

>> No.16489414

>>16489411
delta 2 is cool

>> No.16489415
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16489415

>>16489411

>> No.16489417

>>16489411
rocket girl is cute

>> No.16489419

>Tell me, should I even bother with you any more?
>>16489410
that's a lot of yapping that could have been replaced with a simple "no". I won't spoonfeed you anymore, my answer to your """argument""" is clearly present above. Prove to me you're not a retard by replying to it or fuck off.
fucking ESLs, man. They will die on the stupidest hills

>> No.16489421

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/11/how-real-is-this-european-space-startup-that-aims-to-launch-astronauts/

new berger, not really worth reading though

>> No.16489422

>>16489419
>my answer to your """argument""" is clearly present above
Your answer was about something completely irrelevant to the point I made. Why don't you response to what I actually argued instead of dancing around it by quibbling over a bunch of irrelevant bullshit?

>> No.16489424

>>16489419
>>16489422
did u guys see delta ii as a girl? it's pretty cute

>> No.16489427

How many New Glenn launches in 2025?

>> No.16489428

>>16489421
>european
>space startup
ngmi. too cucked by euro overregulation and regulatory capture by arianne

>> No.16489429

For the financial savvy anons, what nuclear stocks do you guys think are going to take off in the next few years?

>> No.16489430

>>16489427
there are 16(lol) on next spaceflight's manifest.
real answer is optimistically 3

>> No.16489432

>>16489429
None, nuclear is a technological dead end. Move to solar, nuclear wngtm aswell.

>> No.16489435

>>16489430
Just like how Starshit will only launch max 4 times instead of 25

>> No.16489437

>>16489421
>The news even scored a congratulatory post on LinkedIn from French President Emmanuel Macron, who wrote, "The history of space continues to be written in Europeans."
lmao

>> No.16489438
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16489438

damn, you fags are slow

>> No.16489439

>>16489412
go back

>> No.16489442

Is Axiom actually going to finish their spacesuits?

>> No.16489443
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16489443

>>16489438
no u

>> No.16489444

>>16489443
water animation looks kinda jank

>> No.16489445

>>16489438
>>16489443
Could this shit be considered a navigation hazard for boats? Just trying to get out ahead of a potential doomer narrative, not creating one.

>> No.16489446

>>16489438
what's this?
did a hurricane wash booster into the sea?

>> No.16489447
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16489447

>> No.16489448

>>16489438
it's in pretty good shape considering the fireball the flight ended with

>> No.16489450

>>16489438
warped engine bells again?

>> No.16489452

>>16489438
we were too busy arguing with each other, and posting anime girls, sorry

>> No.16489453

>>16489450
Sticking glowing metal into water tends to do that too.

>> No.16489454

>>16489445
Yes, there have already been complaints, part why they have been recovering some stuff

>> No.16489455

>>16489450
Not like anything changed from the last time and wasn't it supposed to land even harder?

>> No.16489456

>>16489438
>>16489443
source?

>> No.16489457
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16489457

>>16489456
Some retard on TikTok who wants a fist up his ass

>> No.16489459

>>16489445
No shit, retard

>> No.16489460
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16489460

>>16489459

>> No.16489462

>>16489411
>>16489415
very cute
>>16489412
stay. What the fuck is bski? Some tranny site?

>> No.16489463

>>16489457
Is steel uhhh supposed to bend like that

>> No.16489465

>>16489415
ugly

>> No.16489466

>>16489463
yeah they just have a mexican hammer it back into shape with a block of wood and a sledgehammer

>> No.16489467
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16489467

Do you think one of the exports of Mars will be weather control technology?
I bet a big domed snowy area is something Disney would pay for in the middle of Florida

>> No.16489468

>>16489437
every single day I wake up and see european leaders embarrassing us again
>>16489445
>this just in, new democrat-funded study finds that titanic was sunk by elon's booster!!!!

>> No.16489469

>>16489438
>>16489457
Imagine the amount of algae and plankton that died because of this...

>> No.16489470

>>16489457
Wtf why did they sink it? Just throw a rope on it and tow it back

>> No.16489471

>>16489462
Bluesky. It's the Twitter alternative that every triggered leftest ran off to after they found out they weren't in the cool kids majority anymore. They immediately started blocklisting each other for microscopic disagreements and the report system is currently getting overwhelmed by a 10,000% increase in CP on the site.

>> No.16489472

>>16489469
>>16489470
SpaceX restoring the ocean by placing artificial reefs at strategic locations for ocean life to thrive around.

>> No.16489473
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I've gone down the Alcubierre drive rabbit hole again

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16489474

>>16489465
don't be rude, anon. I think her tomboyish looks are charming. She looks like she bullies other rocketgirls in rocketschool

>> No.16489475

>>16489468
tiresome both

>> No.16489476

>>16489472
I corals don't bind well to steel unless you coat them first.
https://youtu.be/eDFHoqH8Jz4

>> No.16489477

>>16489471
wow so I guessed right. Why are you there?

>> No.16489478

anybody played terra invicta?

>> No.16489479

>>16489469
Imagine how many fish nets are gonna get snagged on this, thousands of fish saved

>> No.16489482

>>16489471
I thought that was Mastadon, and Threads
>>16489474
Where are they now? Pic needs a 2025 followup.

>> No.16489484

>>16489474
>Dead
>Dead
>Operational about to get mogged by its followup

>> No.16489487

>>16489482
>Where are they now?
six feet under

>> No.16489489

>>16489471
>the report system is currently getting overwhelmed by a 10,000% increase in CP on the site.
pfff, why am I not surprised

>> No.16489491
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16489491

>>16489487
Sad

>> No.16489494

>>16489421
>Huby said it was cool to participate in NASA's grand exploration program but said Europe's role was also frustrating. Why? Because the service module was essentially based on 20-year-old technology, and it wouldn't be reused.
What did she expect? We're at least 20 years behind on technology, space included. Was she expecting europe suddenly become cutting edge in space exploration with all of its jack shit of development?

>> No.16489495

chinese fishermen have already disassembled booster

>> No.16489501

we gaaan
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsd.1976360/gov.uscourts.txsd.1976360.24.0.pdf
>Texas court rejects SaveRGV motion for injunction regarding deluge system

>> No.16489503

>>16489477
I'm not, but I am on Twitter. X is having a field day reposting screenshots of the crazies shrieking in their echo chamber

>>16489482
Mastodon was the St Helena where the furry community exiled all of their extreme cub porn artists. The left tried to use it as a "free speech" haven after Elon bought Twitter but fled after seeing a 6 y/o Tony the tiger getting railed by his little league coach. No one ever used threads, not even the pedophiles.

>> No.16489504

>>16489501
Thank God we got the courts to confirm that water is safe for the environment.

>> No.16489506
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16489506

>>16489503
>The left tried to use it as a "free speech" haven after Elon bought Twitter but fled after seeing a 6 y/o Tony the tiger getting railed by his little league coach
My sides

>> No.16489510

>>16489503
>but fled after seeing a 6 y/o Tony the tiger getting railed by his little league coach.
which is what's happening in bluesky now

>> No.16489512

>>16489503
Accurate

>> No.16489514

>>16489503
Most self-aware twittertroon

>> No.16489515

>>16489469
they should program it to hunt and seek whales as it comes in. fuck the whales

>> No.16489517

>>16489494
>20-year-old technology
Much older than that. The ESM uses RCS thrusters from the shittle, as mandated by law.

>> No.16489518

>>16489515
hit them with bowls of petunias

>> No.16489519
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16489519

>> No.16489520

>>16489518
oh no, not again

>> No.16489521

>>16489518
Putinias

>> No.16489522
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16489522

>>16489515
based

>> No.16489530
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16489530

>>16489519
And yet, most of the discussion here is started with things being reposted from Twitter

>> No.16489531
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16489531

I seriously wonder what goes through the heads of non-spacex engineers when they see something like this.
This is a set of cryogenic booster engines that are being relit mere seconds after completing a full burn and after having another vehicle forcibly ignite and stage itself

>> No.16489541
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16489541

>>16489457
its made of corrugated cardboard wtf

>> No.16489544
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16489544

>Bluesky meltdown has made it to /sfg/

>> No.16489546

>>16489544
The what?

>> No.16489550

>>16489546
Elon fanboys having a meltdown people are choosing not to use twitter.

>> No.16489551

>>16489550
what's twitter?

>> No.16489553

>>16489550
Go back.

>> No.16489554

>>16489550
There's no way anyone's melting down about it. This is like the fourth time someone made a new Twitter

>> No.16489555

>>16489550
You people are unsalvageable.
God help us all.

>> No.16489556

>>16489550
>the immediate seethe at this post
kekaroo

>> No.16489557

>>16489551
I don't call trans people by their fake names, I'm not going to call websites by their fake names.

>> No.16489558

>>16489439
nigger x just became even more worthless
inb4 reddit is painfully cringe

>> No.16489560
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16489560

>Instantly 4 comments about how they aren't having a meltdown
lel

>> No.16489563

>indirect reply with a wojak
Yep, seething hard.

>> No.16489564

>>16489560
WTF! you can't depict me as the crying wojack! I'm not seething!

>> No.16489567

>>16489550
I didnt have a choice Nigs blocked my account.

>> No.16489575

>>16489544
>you do not fit in here

how does that work when the lefties self deporting to Bluesky are the grey people in this comic?

>> No.16489578

>>16489501
>>16489504
what's with RGV being hostile to SpaceX now? I thought they were paying WhatAboutIt to shill their helicopter tours a year ago?

>> No.16489579
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16489579

>>16489575

>> No.16489580

>>16489578
nigga RGV is a place (Lower Rio Grande Valley), different organizations add it as a prefix

>> No.16489581
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16489581

brits but still
40% of thread is pathetic

>> No.16489583

>>16489578
Save Rio Grand Valley is one of the ecoactivist cutouts that's been trying to throw up legal roadblocks for SpaceX. RGV Aerial Photography is something completely different

>> No.16489584

>>16489580
who cares.

>> No.16489587

>>16489580
I care

>> No.16489588

>>16489578
tard

>> No.16489589

>>16489580
I do (not) care

>> No.16489590

>>16489578
>this new
and youve never been to texas either. pathetic.

>> No.16489591
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16489591

Nigga im gay for prop depots

>> No.16489596
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16489596

>>16489591
What if one of these explodes mid-fueling

>> No.16489598

>>16489596
why would it do that?

>> No.16489599

>>16489478
Yeah, I didn't get that far into the spaceship stuff though but it seems like it could be a pretty good game if it was 10 times faster.

>> No.16489600

>>16489598
Cry for attention, funny prank, suicidal ideation take your pick.

>> No.16489601
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16489601

>> No.16489603
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16489603

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1860037841029579191

>> No.16489605

>>16489579
Again, how does that comic work when it is the lefties who self deported to Bluesky after trying to make everyone else leave twitter didn't pan out?

>> No.16489608

>>16489603
Euros are retarded.

>> No.16489610
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16489610

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859997274518257896

>> No.16489611

>>16489603
Typical euro looking to make everyone equal in misery.

>> No.16489613

>>16489520
lol

>>16489522
i stand behind those slogans

>> No.16489614

>>16489610
aeiou

>> No.16489615

>>16489531
hopefully admiration rather than EDS routines

>> No.16489616

>>16489614
john madden

>> No.16489618

>>16489610
>why dont people believe elon when he says he wants to colonize mars
because they're notorious liars and think everyone is like them

>> No.16489619

>>16489598
rapid unscheduled disassembly

>> No.16489621

>>16489610
Starship can literally just be Moonbase Alpha….

>> No.16489622

>>16489603
>they should just launch more satellites
lol exactly. fucking commies seething

>> No.16489624

>>16489610
Moon Based Alpha

>> No.16489625

>>16489610
the average normie thinks shuttle is still flying moon missions. they get their opinions of musk from tesla hit pieces. they know nothing about spaceflight and are very quick to accept anything negative they are told about musk.

>> No.16489626

>>16489610
one hell of a long con ig

>> No.16489628

when is starship going to start launching from florida?

>> No.16489629
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16489629

>>16489625
>shuttle is still flying moon missions
i remember those

>> No.16489630

>>16489628
shortly after they land one there

>> No.16489632

>>16489629
Given how badly ((everyone)) is seething, I doubt we will see Starship supplant the shuttle in American media anytime soon.

>> No.16489634

>>16489625
Insane how some people have such trouble distinguishing real from fake. Musk was always clearly about it. All you need to do is watch the SpaceX factory tour from 14 years ago to figure that out.

>> No.16489640
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16489640

>>16489632
There must have been a big change internally at NASA now that we see them openly talking about Starship.

https://x.com/nasaartemis/status/1859354076103782753

>> No.16489641

>>16489628
my guess is that they'll start building out the infrastructure next year

>> No.16489642
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16489642

>>16489640
I love this image. it's so obvious why they were reluctant to show starship hls in diagrams even years after it was chosen. this is so humiliating

>> No.16489643

>>16489610
Elon says this, while holding Moon landing contracts, and critics turn around and say
>He only wants to go to Mars
>We should be going to the Moon first

>> No.16489644

>>16489642
its not so bad, especially when you realize that most of starship is fuel tanks

>> No.16489646

>>16489644
it's pretty bad

>> No.16489647
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16489647

>>16489640
>>16489642
>no solar panels on the HLS
how's the fucker getting power then?

>> No.16489648
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16489648

>>16489640
incredibly funny

>> No.16489651
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>> No.16489652

>>16489644
Orion is much worse when you think about it's usable volume

>> No.16489654
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16489654

>>16489651

>> No.16489655

>>16489648
>Hybrid solar electric
>NRHO assembly
Why would youassemble anything in such an orbit unless your objective is to increase cost?

>> No.16489656

>>16489647
they fold out silly fairyposter
>>16488333

>> No.16489659

>>16489654
Beautiful

>> No.16489660

>>16489656
Does it keep them folded when docked with Orion as to not scare her off?

>> No.16489663

>>16489655
why do you answer your own question?

>> No.16489666

>>16489647
The ROSA are stowed, you can see the square panels they deploy from.

>> No.16489667

>>16489647
They're folded up above the landing engine ring, behind those rectangular panels like in the older renders.

>> No.16489668

>>16489660
It flaps them to attract a mate

>> No.16489671

>>16489660
looks like they block the landing motors. may be a single deploy when it lands on the moon with no ability to retract and redeploy. I guess it just uses batteries or fuel cells until it gets them out.

>> No.16489676
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16489676

>>16489647
never mind that, where's the radiators?

>> No.16489677

>>16489676
the huge surface

>> No.16489679

>>16489648
> NTP RM-1 assembled in MEO
in the van Allen belts? wtf

>> No.16489687

>>16489676
I hate these long exposure shots. They show you nothing and confuse normies.

>> No.16489688

one day sls will be unfucked and respectable

>> No.16489691

>>16489687
No fun club premium member right here. Do you have a suggested shutter speed the entire universe should use without exception?

>> No.16489693

>>16489688
SLS will not survive the Trump admin

>> No.16489694

>>16489691
I have lots of thoughts on what the universe should do.

>> No.16489696

>>16488372
>A series of launch vehicles was proposed, based around the proposed Space Transportation Main Engine (STME) liquid-fuel rocket engine.
complete wastes of time

>> No.16489697

>>16489688
I don't think this statement will come true

>> No.16489698

>>16488015
I think someone at marlago was trying to kiss up to Musk and made some gossip up, it just seems too fake.

>>16488409
I think testing licencing should be moved under NASA, and operational flights should be under FAA. Of course, we still have to make sure NASA isn't as bureaucratic as the FAA.

>> No.16489699
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16489699

>>16489687
>stealth flerfer posting
you won't get away with it

>> No.16489701

>>16489691
Nobody cares.

>> No.16489702

Someone stage.

>> No.16489703

>>16489702
aww, look who didn't learn to count to 10 in kindergarten

>> No.16489704
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16489704

i want earth take her shirt off

>> No.16489705

>>16489704
Kill yourself instantly

>> No.16489706
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16489706

bepis might buy ULA
https://x.com/michaelsrockets/status/1859787628478140873

>> No.16489707

>>16489671
They are several feet above those I really doubt that's the reason

>> No.16489708

>>16489706
big if true

>> No.16489711

>>16489706
This dick head is insufferable. Elon wannabe turned E-boy wannabe. Constantly tries to flirt with underage children on X.

>> No.16489712

>>16489706
>bepis
literally WHO?

>> No.16489713

>>16489711
based

>> No.16489715

>>16489705
shes not wearing panties

>> No.16489716

>>16489706
Who is Bepis and how can they afford ULA if both Blue and Sierra thought it was not worth the price being asked?

>> No.16489717

>>16489711
>Constantly tries to flirt with underage children on X.
Age of consent is 16 here

>> No.16489718
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16489718

>>16489704
I wanna plant a forest and help her heal.

>> No.16489719

>>16489718
this is dark

>> No.16489720
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16489720

>>16489376
>>16489411
>>16489412
>>16489415
I watch every trash anime every season and even I know this shit is gay and cringe as fuck. I would like to think that space exploration should embody some noble idea of reaching out to the stars to do the impossible. But you apes defile that with your basal monkey instincts of needing to coom

>> No.16489721
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16489721

>>16489706
Imagine if ULA gets bought by even less competant management

>> No.16489722

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1860083533001424973
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1860083533001424973
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1860083533001424973
NEW Starship Indian Ocean landing

>> No.16489723
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16489723

>>16489706
How the fuck is a hobbyist able to scrounge enough capital to buy ULA?

>> No.16489724
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16489724

>>16489716
>>16489723

>> No.16489725

>>16489720
In a past life you were the middle management faggot that made everyone scrub the art off warplanes until it came time to actually fight a war and shitcanned your ass because morale actually matters

>> No.16489726

>>16489722
Gorgeous.

>> No.16489728
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16489728

>>16489722

>> No.16489727

>>16489723
? He's a billionaire

>> No.16489729

>>16489722
new thread should have this as theme

>> No.16489731

>>16489218
>it only has passengers
Same as Dragon

>> No.16489732

>>16489728
damn she's toasty

>> No.16489733

>>16489721
You are boring

>> No.16489734
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16489734

>>16489725
you're not boosting any morale with poorly drawn titty pics you tard. If you want to boost morale that make art that is inspirational. There is nobody that wanted to become a rocket engineer because they saw porn. Faggot

>> No.16489736

>>16489722
>>16489728
Absolutely punished and roasted

>> No.16489738

>>16489654
Sexy

>> No.16489740

>>16489734
>There is nobody that wanted to become a rocket engineer because they saw porn.
I don't know about that. Little X might turn out that way

>> No.16489741

>>16489654
me on the left

>> No.16489742

>>16489734
>you're not boosting any morale with poorly drawn titty pics
It boosts mine

>> No.16489744

>>16489728
I'm glad to be alive

>> No.16489747
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16489747

>>16489734
>calls people faggot
>seethes and cries whenever he see boobs

>> No.16489748
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16489748

>>16489706
Based

>> No.16489749

>>16489742
>>16489747
I can't be interested in anything unless it's coom
it's over for you

>> No.16489750
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16489750

>>16489734
>the anti-anime tranny is back
cringe

>> No.16489751

>>16489728
they should throw one of the droneships out there in the indian ocean for the next flight

>> No.16489753

>>16489751
How

>> No.16489754

>>16489156
I don't think the labor market has much capacity for the kind of work you could do in a dream through the neuralink interface. It's not real-time so you can't go around piloting a remote-presence chassis to stack boxes. A lot of clerical work is more or less real-time, you can't do the next three months of accounting all in one go. Research or something like that, sure, but I think a lot of people would be okay with the idea of finishing a doctorate in less than a month. Things like engineering and graphic design would immediately run up against the limits of computer hardware—you'd basically need a supercomputer to keep pace.
Even if you could work out some kind of insane multi-task-threading so that one person could be doing months of physical or service-industry labor via a fleet of robots, then you've changed the dynamics of the labor market immensely. There simply isn't enough stuff to be done if people are 1-2000x more efficient.

>> No.16489755

>>16489753
it's a boat, it moves across the ocean. put one in that part of the ocean and land a rocket on it.

>> No.16489756

>>16489750
>can't conceive that there are other people that is tired of shallow coomer posting
sad

>> No.16489760

>>16489427
I'm betting 8

>> No.16489761
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16489761

Attention all /sfg/ posters: Do not lewd the rocket girl!

>> No.16489762

>>16489755
Is Of Course I Still Love You! even big enough to land a Starship on? And of course there's no octograbber for it yet so it'd just end up tipping off anyway.

>> No.16489765

>>16489762
it would work but spacex doesnt have the cojones

>> No.16489766

>>16489754
What a retard. This has never been true. We used to all be farmers. Now a few people multiply their labor with machines and the economy has adapted.

>> No.16489768

>>16489734
Starships will have individualised anime girl personas laser etched onto the nose cone and you will seethe.

>> No.16489769

>>16489762
Space fact: you can also use Star Trek episode names for drone ships, not just The Culture:
>Where No Man Has Gone Before
>The Sound of Her Voice
>What Are Little Girls Made Of?
>Operation: Annihilate!

>> No.16489770

>>16489768
and that's all you would talk about instead of capability and engineering

>> No.16489771

i FUCKING HATE STARSHIT. eVERYTHING ABOUTIT IS CRAP AND TERRIBLE.

>> No.16489773
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16489773

>>16489756

>> No.16489775

>>16489755
Yeah and it's a vehicle that can go around the orbit, why land it in Indian ocean when you can do it somewhere closer?

>> No.16489777

>>16489775
the FAA

>> No.16489778

>>16489718
not pictured: earth-chan fighting claw and hoof to kill off humanity

>> No.16489779

>>16489773
No no, you can tell it's a different person because they changed their capitalization and punctuation.
>>16489768
what a vision

>> No.16489780
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16489780

soooo wen is blue glen static fire?

>> No.16489781
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16489781

>>16489769
Yes but only Voyager episodes
>Equinox
>Threshold
>Scorpion
>Mortal Coil
>Living Witness

>> No.16489786

>>16489544
nobody's invading their safespace to shitpost at them (and not getting banned), we're watching from the outside while they tear themselves apart
>>16489723
John Carmack hooked him up with some VC's who gave him a few billy

>> No.16489788

>>16489761
this is the most important message in this thread

>> No.16489789
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16489789

>>16489761
What about man made horrors beyond human comprehension?

>> No.16489791

>>16489775
safety culture
something about needing to not risk dropping Starship on an uncontrolled reentry over populated areas
>>16489789
do they even have any genitals

>> No.16489793

>>16489781
Any of these names would have been 10x better than the gay names the droneships recieved

>> No.16489795
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16489795

SpaceX ought to build a small landing pad and inspection tent here, far enough away from any national parks and residential areas but close enough to a port and airport to transfer parts back stateside.
Just north of Mardie in Western Australia.

>> No.16489796

>>16489769
We can name them after the mangas

>> No.16489797

>>16489781
>Living Witness
Too cool for a drone ship imho

>> No.16489800

guijarros brillantes

>> No.16489801

>>16489781
>Year of Hell

>> No.16489802

>>16489754
the service sector is huge
the dream slaves need services
add to that the so-called knowledge economy

>> No.16489804

>>16489802
This was more or less the setup for Neuromancer

>> No.16489805

>>16489797
Great episode, too

>> No.16489806

>>16489791
https://speculativeevolution.fandom.com/wiki/Vacuumorph
>The ultimate triumph of the genetic engineer. The product of grafting, surgery and cell manipulation, the vacuumorph can live and work in the free-fall of orbit and the airless void of space. The basic human reproductive cells were manipulated to produce the necessary shape, but extra organs had to be grafted on, including a hard impermeable exoskeleton grown from tissue culture. The result, however, is sterile. The vacuumorph has a limited life and no future of its own. The vacuumorph cannot breed and would not survive the rigors of gravity.

>> No.16489807

>>16488990
>>16488991
>billionaire donates money and lies about expecting a return on his investment
Perfectly normal and democratically minded
>billionaire donates money and openly speaks about wanting to fix things he believes are hurting the country
Basically a Bond villain I guess?

>> No.16489809

>>16489806
This is horrific

>> No.16489810

>>16489806
If I was born as this thing I would immediately begin strategizing how to destroy whatever I was working on. Blow a station down the well, ruin an interstellar drive to eternally room the ship, etc. Retribution must come to those who warped the vessel of my divine soul. Space will seem far below the highs I will ascend to, while they are punished for the depths of their sin for all eternity

>> No.16489811

>>16489807
yeah, Dodge v Ford lmao

>> No.16489812

>>16489721
wtf, why are tory's teeth like that?

>> No.16489813

>>16489810
>room
doom*. fuck

>> No.16489814

>>16489642
>It's a fucking 50s cartoon rocket
Sometimes real life is so strange. I half expect Daffy Duck to land out of that and have a quarrel with that one fucking Martian
>>16489789
Vacuumorphs are more like, assembled than grown, as they need to be sealed for life. The book explicitly says they can't reproduce

>> No.16489817

>>16489810
Something like this happened in the Uplift series, a species of tunnelers got uplifted and enslaved as living miners, their bodies warped into something like a modern tunnel boring machine except flesh and self-aware. They wound up using some latent psi ability to mindwipe their patrons, reverting the cruel gene splicers back to pre-sapiancy. Then they fucked off to go live underground and complain about it to one another.

>> No.16489822

>>16489810
Ah, the All Tomorrows path.

>> No.16489823

>>16489810
If you can make a vacuumorph, you can probably remote-control it Avatar-style and it has no independent will

>> No.16489825

>>16489644
same thing for orion...

>> No.16489829
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16489829

>>16489158
>New Stewart

>> No.16489831

>>16489158
>New Paperrocket

>> No.16489832

>>16489829
he hasn't been to not space yet

>> No.16489833

>>16489160
they're caught up with the CGI part, now they just need to reuse some boosters an shieet

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16489834

>> No.16489836

>>16489189
I'm still waiting for them to reach 1 flight/year.

>> No.16489838
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16489838

>>16489811
>Dodge
>Do(d)ge
>Doge (D)

>> No.16489841

>>16488991
>Simon Schyster

>> No.16489842

>>16489838
look it up please

>> No.16489844

>>16489800
jaja, no había escuchado esa palabra, simplemente los llamo "rocas" y ya.

>> No.16489845

>>16489838
He's right, you really should look it up. It's funny and extremely frustrating at the same time.

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16489848

>>16489374

>> No.16489853

Some nigger made a new thread, fucked up the OP, and didnt stage it btw.

>> No.16489855
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16489855

>>16489704
w-where did the rocket take off from??
>>16489734
you really really REALLY need to leave this thread/board/site, nigger-kun

>> No.16489858

>>16489728
so starship breaks up when it falls over right?

Could you design the crew version with extra reinforcement so it can always abort in water?

>> No.16489859

>>16489598
orgasm

>> No.16489861

>>16489853
just pretend you didn't see it?

>> No.16489862

>>16489217
New Woody

>> No.16489864
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16489864

>>16489603
can't be crabs when you don't even have claws

>> No.16489867

>>16489862
for me, it's slinky dog

>> No.16489868

STAGING
>>16489819
>>16489819
>>16489819
>>16489819

>> No.16489870

>>16489632
>Given how badly ((everyone)) is seething, I doubt we will see Starship supplant the shuttle in American media anytime soon.

the shuttle always blows up in media though

>> No.16489874

>>16489870
It did that in real life too

>> No.16489880

>>16489603
The concern is elon musk building 60% of satellites

>> No.16489887

>>16489473
Is it true that everything in front of the arriving vessel would be obliterated by a lightspeed debris cannon

>> No.16489892
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16489892

>>16489832
Fine.
then New Garriott

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16489905

>>16489887

>> No.16489984

>>16489668
this, its the way of nature

>> No.16489985

>>16489699
agreed

>> No.16489987

>>16489704
a thing of beauty

>> No.16489989

>>16489668
Thank you, Sir David Attenborough.

>> No.16489992

>>16489728
the play of children, though it shows promise.

>> No.16489995

>>16489862
New Deke
New Dr Rendezvous

>> No.16489997

>>16489715
nor should she

>> No.16489999

>>16489892
"Hey, Earl!"
>>16489864
"Hey, CrabMan!"

>> No.16490210
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16490210

>>16489644
It's catastrophically bad. From the outside, it looks deceiving, but astronauts when docked to HLS in Moon's orbit will spend 99% of their time IN HLS Starship. Orion has a crew capacity of 7, but will average 4. HLS Starship has a crew capacity of 25, but will average 2. Orion's internal volume for its crew area is large enough, barely, that if you took 2 roughly 6' to 6'2 height people and lined them up head to toe in one direction, and they'd fit with a few inches on either side, at its widest. For Starship, its nearly 5 people 6' people head to toe lined up from one end of the ship to the other. On top of that, you have to consider how Dragon looks and how a Model S looks internally. Take THAT design and aesthetic and extrapolate out into a living volume that's nearly 10x larger than the Orion capsule. Clean, egalitarian design, with modern lighting, plush, and designed for maximum utility but simultaneous comfort. Compare that to what Orion looks like internally (picrel), which comes across more like a padded white room mixed in with a prison cell.

Also, this picture is also deceiving because it doesn't accurately portray size. But we have a good frame of reference. Take a look at the Orion engine bell. Now take your hands and put them out wide. From the end of your finger tips on the left to end of finger tips on your right, that's roughly how wide that engine bell is. Now keep that in mind for HLS where its docked all the way down to where the NASA worm logo is. That's all LIVABLE volume.

When HLS Demo-1 flies, we'll likely get a mini drone inside the ship that will travel its full length during the flight to orbit, from orbit to Moon, and even around the ship when landed on the surface. We'll get that all in 4K (hopefully at 60fps), and people will truly understand, in totality, how much HLS dwarfs literally everything else in the market by several generations.

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16490215

>>16490210
>>16489644
Actually, we can do one better. Tesla recently showed off their Robovan with a design and visual theme for their vision for the future, and since Tesla and SpaceX constantly cross pollinates, this theme and visual choice will inevitably crossover into Starship. Using this Robovan as reference, one can reasonably expect that the internals of HLS Starship will follow this exact philosophy across its entire livable volume. So with that in mind, compare THIS, to what Orion looks like internally, and you can see how utterly devastating that difference becomes.

>> No.16490365

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOUmyZI0124