/sci/ - Science & Math

>>16465590
First for fuck the FWS

two weeks! https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-6

ESGHound status?

>>16465597

>>16465600
Damn, what a colossal faggot.

>>16465597
He's being harassed by crazy people, apparently

>>16465604
We are so back

>>16465604
I wonder how he feels knowing everything he ever "worked" for is moot and he just wasted everyone's time only for nothing to change

>>16465600
Fun fact you can just ignore ESGfag, CSS, Kolodny, flat earthers, apollo deniers etc now, now that Elon and SpaceX won big it just doesn't matter what they have to say anymore, ESG/kolodny and other seethers writing their articles were only ever worth arguing with when the Dems could use their contrived bullshit half-assed accusations to go after SpaceX or Blue for minor shit out of petty political reasons and now thats just not gonna happen cause they lost - bigly

so waste of energy on all of these people now imo

>>16465607
All Elon has to do is disable the hate speech limiters and suspensions and then the website will naturally self-correct such people.

also Trump winning means pathetic shit like this gains zero traction in America

>>16465614
just try to get through this without rolling your eyes I couldn't by the 3rd paragraph lol

>>16465614
I mean, what does that even have to do with space? I get it, no air empires where the Muskrat king gets to decide if your dome asphyxiates if you call him a name

i still cant fucking believe it. i doomed for nothing, holy fuck it wasnt even close. we really live in the best timeline bros. i cant fucking believe it deregulated spaceflight is like priority #1 for elon as well oh my lord. it is about to BOOM.

>>16465614
I mean, what does that even have to do with space? I get it, nobody wants air empires where the Muskrat king gets to decide if your dome asphyxiates if you call him a name, or destruction of alien ecosystems for profit, but the wonderful thing about space is that it belongs to everyone, so nothing's stopping those guys from eventually forming a commune in some O'Neil or ice moon. Hell, I'd wager a stable society of the type serious space settlement requires would naturally gravitate toward something like what they want, since Australian aboriginal-type tribes are our "natural" social setup, and any serious violent conflict off-Earth is likely to just end up with everyone in the colony dead

>>16465604
What an asshole. What's the point of him?

>>16465621
yeah

Bros I'm so fucking excited for the future

>>16465631
best timeline and its not even close

>>16465631
What about Greg Autry?

>>16465631
indeed

>>16465621
yeah, crazy

>>16465633
He's a smart pick. If not administrator, he should be CFO or something

>>16465631
Why do you retards want Bridenstine? He immediately took a job at ViaSat and spoke out against SpaceX.

How deep of a house majority are Rs supposed to get? Does that even matter for space? Are some RINOs going to be like noooo dont go to space we have problems here

>>16465621
Leftists of this stripe are anti-positive sum: their ideal society is one where everyone is equally poor because then there's no injustice. Once people start creating new things, then inequalities arise. Spaceflight is particularly dangerous to them because it lacks any clear upper bound. With terrestrial extractive industries they can argue that the supply is finite (even though the Earth has absolutely immense resources which are now-unprofitable mainly because of political or technological limits that can be removed), but with space it's plainly obvious that the potential for growth is functionally infinite.

They usually frame these insidious views within the context of some clear historical injustice that most people oppose—i.e. colonialism is bad because it harmed the native peoples. But their true objection to colonialism is that the European pursuit of advancement and empire was per se immoral, essentially because humans shouldn't seek greatness. Ironically it's a position which derives from Christian theology (Protestant, really: Catholicism embraced Aristotelian virtue ethics with Aquinas and never looked back), which is why it sounds so utterly ass-backwards; it's logic makes sense only if you accept axiomatically that humans are evil and human advancement is bad.

>>16465644
If thats the case, then we should even consider Kathy Leuders who was demoted by the Biden admin for picking SpaceX for HLS

>>16465645
something about a filibuster idk

>>16465631
Isn't he an EDSer now?

>>16465621
>>16465647
They're like real-life Chaos cultists. They seduce the weak-minded with comforting lies, but in truth they only seek the destruction of Mankind.

>>16465645
It won't be a big enough majority to completely remove the risk of RINO shenanigans, but most of the real problems are coming from the administrative state and not congress. Just putting Ron Paul in charge of the Department of Killing Other Government Departments will improve things so much.

>>16465644
Dont hate the player, hate the game. When are you gonna stop whining about that?

>>16465604
When environmental legislation is thrown into the garbage, I will remind him that it is almost exclusively his fault

>>16465645
House is still in the air. In the Senate they will have a comfortable majority, but not enough to get around the filibuster. It probably matters little for spaceflight, since support for it tends to be bipartisan (that's not to say D and R support yield equally good policy). Trump seems genuinely enthusiastic about spaceflight and that should be enough. Also, the main driver of spaceflight right now is private industry, which will benefit massively from reduced regulatory burdens that can be achieved without any Congressional action.

>>16465654
Trump will now be able to re-classify most federal workers as appointees, which he was planning to do int 2020. This should make it easy to fire them at will.

So I got really drunk at a work party last night for the election and apparently I started talking to coworkers about the Mars piss lock meme and now I have a meeting on my calendar with HR and my manager tomorrow morning...

>>16465648
That would honestly be so hilarious
And then she purges those who pushed her out

>>16465662
this is why ive never drank. become a teetotaeler, its for the best.

>>16465644
>>16465652
Thats just his job tho. Not necessarily an ideological/personal reason

>>16465666
satan trips confirm you are a lying bastard and we should firmly reject bridenstine. everyone make sure you get a screencap of this to btfo and future bridenstine rats

>>16465662
Never talk about the pisslocks to non/sfg/ people, rookie mistake.

>>16465666
He has committed sedition against an officer of the Ministry of Space, and you are his sympathizer. Anon, your agonizer please.

https://x.com/danprimack/status/1854136564273541258

This will happen and will really bite SpaceX in the ass when it does

>>16465662
What's so bad about piss

>>16465662
Please tell me you're at least aerospace-adjacent and that this hasn't fully escaped containment into the world at large

>>16465683
Absolutely. I'm already dooming about fucking Starlink hardware being found inside Russian drones.

>>16465590
That plover clearly enjoys watching starship launch, it would be facing away if it wasn't happy and excited to see the launch. Musk should be rewarded for making life better for the plovers.

>>16465687
American GPS chips have been found in Russian shit, Russians use eotechs, etc. It happens in war

Im gonna buy an 8" dob

>>16465693
someone remake this with Starship

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gravitationally_rounded_objects_of_the_Solar_System

>>16465693
Nice anon. I'm stuck with my equatorial mount. I kind of like it though, now that I'm used to it.

let me know when its the right time to start building my spaceship

ive got aluminium foil and some magnets and stuff
we can paint it with decals and stuff

>>16465700
do you know that some people pronounce it deck-uls instead of de-cals like a normal person does

>Trump is in charge right around the time America is celebrating its 250th birthday
>Also in charge right around when the Artemis program finally landed people on the moon again
Forget 2020, him winning in 2024 is a huge legacy jackpot for the guy.

SOON

>>16465698
knee status?

>>16465702
thats a curioous thing
lets make fun of those people and defame their character

or perhaps
make an envious lifestyle

incompatible with success
JUST FOR FUN
becuase how else
does a teddy bear make it through a bstacle corsyuse with
a nerdy gerdy spiral projector
BUT YOU KNOW THE DRILL

>>16465685
My field is completely disjoint to aerospace unfortunately. I just like rockets and am autistic about it.

>>16465710
Simple solution: Tell HR you're autistic and lawyer up. Buy one of these audio recorders (it's a lot more menacing than just pulling out your phone to record), put it on the table during the meeting, look at them in the eyes and say these exact words "my attorney requested that I record this meeting". HR is all hot shit until you remind them you're a protected class and threaten legal action. Make sure you CC your company's legal team too to inform them you've lawyered up, legal can and will often times tell HR roasties to shut the fuck up.
t. autist that got in trouble at work, and the second I CC'd my attorney on an email chain, my managers started avoiding eye contact with me unless absolutely necessary.

>>16465710
hello retard-kun. remember that this is what you get for drinking. put the bottle down, learn your lesson and never drink again

>>16465607
I just think it's really entertaining how a really small nobody person of zero consequence could have one of the most powerful people on the planet as their arch nemesis.

What's the reasoning to not desire practice building and drilling/mining on the moon? It's 3 days away as opposed to 7 months(?), can practice all sorts of otherworldly building and maneuvering techniques with robots and people, practice building structures, that can be sealed and consistently oxygenated and all the tech monitoring techniques, stabilizing structures, landing and taking off craft, building launch and landing pads etc.


"What's the reasoning to not desire practice building and drilling/mining on the moon? It's 3 days away as opposed to 7 months(?), can practice all sorts of otherworldly building and maneuvering techniques with robots and people, practice building structures, that can be sealed and consistently oxygenated and all the tech monitoring techniques, stabilizing structures, landing and taking off craft, building launch and landing pads etc."

"Some areas of the moon have temperatures that could be suitable for human life, around 63°F (17°C):"

"The temperature on Mars can range from -225°F (-153°C) to 70°F (20°C), but the average is around -85°F (-65°C). The temperature on Mars varies greatly because of its thin atmosphere"

Large habitable space city structures also have their pro and con drawbacks

Why is this most epic video in 4K not getting any love here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI9HQfCAw64

>>16465722
Most people are drunk as fuck or passed out or depressed. Expecting any significant attention the day after an election is retarded anon.

>>16465722
>Why is this most epic video in 4K not getting any love here?

>>16465722
Already saw it on X hours ago

Can we get a little love in the chat for another fascist nazi?

>>16465662
never reveal your piss level!

>>16465730
Are nazis the only ones capable of building rockets?

>>16465730
fascism and national socialism are separate ideologies tho

>>16465739
The question was:
>Can we get a little love in the chat?

>>16465726
X is awesome in 4K, simply the perfect video streaming platform, you can just browse with no account and an adblocker!
Oh, wait...

>>16465696
>OP's Mom

>>16465693
Hell yeah

predictions for the number of starship flights next year?

>>16465722
I need a working, shielded gopro in the engine bay

Make it happen Elon

>>16465820
I got 20

>>16465820
Their license only allows 6, max. If they manage a bimonthly cadence they will be doing great.

>>16465828
Retard. What the fuck do you think happened yesterday?

The lesson Ive today is NEVER bet against Elon.

>>16465820
17, because of the weather.

>>16465832
>Always bet on black.

>>16465837
Preach my african immigrant xista

>>16465828
They're actually down to 5 per year. It's so over.

https://www.faa.gov/media/85696

>>16465841
Shut the fuck up doomer scum you have no ammunition left after the Elon victory.

>>16465828
were you asleep the last 24 hours?

Now that the dust has settled, can we all admit poojeets are based and spacepilled?

>>16465828
Elon is going to fire you

>>16465862
>poos in LEO with an uncontrolled ASAT test
no fuck india

>>16465722
I have a radiation hardened (old) 1080p monitor.

>>16465828
You forgot yesterday? We getting new FAA.

>>16465862
ISRO have done very well considering their relatively low spending.

>>16465874
Are CRTs rad hardened? We must return to old technolgies

>>16465820
They'll get it up to 10, they're going to need massive changes to their GSE to support higher launch cadences
>Heavily expanded cryo storage
>LNG pipeline
>Off-site LOX production
>Maybe a rebuild of OLM-1

>>16465648
Conflict of interest since she works at SpaceX now.
It'll be some career politician.

>>16465885
>pipeline, pipeline, pipeline
Environmental review handed off to Texas, Cruz and Abbot personally sign off on the pipelines five minutes after receiving the application

>>16465614
>words words words faggotry
>we also reject the shift key and uppercase letters
>t.eecummings

>>16465647
>their ideal society is one where everyone is equally poor because then there's no injustice.
No quite. The Party members who do such valuable work in such a selfless manner will deserve better food, housing and clothing etc. dont you think? And the Peoples Internal Security forces must be comfortable too...

Gearing up for another launch in ~1.5 weeks/11 days

soon

>>16465655
Traitors to American space supremacy should be blackballed and exiled from the industry and disallowed a platform to speak on the matter at all.

>>16465887
She could simply resign from SpaceX and take the position.

>>16465909
Mr. Musk got his transgressions pardoned. Why not him too.

>>16465908
How they make sure there wont be a mass casualty event in case the glass dome gets a hole?

>>16465911
Who did Musk pardon for what?

>>16465915
This. As far as I know, he's still Public Enemy No. 2 to the leftoids.

>>16465915
Musk was forgiven by DJT.

>>16465919
DJT isn't a communist so he isn't Musk's enemy. I think you're confusing this.

>>16465921
Based "wasn't around in 2016-2019" newfag poster

>>16465921
But the question was about was not is. They were feuding. They are not feuding now. How thick is your skull?

>>16465689
Eotechs are commercial items so easy to inport through this party. But like anyone is even trying to enforce the sanctions. Somehow European trade to all Shitfuckingstans that border russia have had their trade increased ridiculous amounts.

>>16465923
Trump realized he was in error. He was wrong. Will your traitor renounce his traitorous statements and pledge his loyalty to American space supremacy above all other things?

>>16465590
>>16465594
pipin' hot plovers are back on the menu boys

>>16465889
Sure but these things still take time to build.

Alleged SpaceX supporter BTW.
Crazy how 100% of trannies on spitter came out of the woodwork this election and went mask off that they woud rather be gay than have life become multiplanetary.

>>16465935
>Crazy how 100% of trannies on spitter came out of the woodwork this election and went mask off that they woud rather be gay than have life become multiplanetary.
that happened on /sfg/ too

>>16465882
Aren't they like the opposite of rad hardened?

>>16465862
It's so funny how Modi is literally an incompetent dictator but no one ever talks about that because... reasons. The dude has a fucking civil war going on right now, and it's just ignored.

>>16465972
shut your fuck bloody bitch you call him dictator then india is powerful from dictator you fuck bitch bloody

So if they try an engine reignition during IFT-6 and succeed, nothing will prevent them from reaching actual orbit from then on and we might see a starlink deployment in IFT-7?

>>16465976
Starlink deployment is suspected to be on IFT 8,but yes

>>16465972
No one buys the leftist media take on anything except retards. The only real news I've heard from India is some nonsense about toilet deficit. Yes, I wanted to make that joke too, but you know.

>>16465976
Engine relight for faster/controlled deorbit and more refined/robust catching play

>>16465972
mostly because india is publicly incompetent. A dictatorship that tries to hide its flaws might fool some into taking it seriously but because India is a bizarre mix of upright/open, dictatorial and 'democratic' people can't really form a solid opinion on it.

Galactic Energy's Pallas-1 Y1; maiden launch planned for Q1 2025

>>16465984
(An antares-class partially reusable LV)

SPEHS

>>16465988
I'll always love the look of 2018 BFR
even if that third fin was objectively useless mass

>>16465990
Big Fucking Rocket is a better name then SuperHeavy, and I'm tired of pretending its not.

>>16465992
Bird name would be better.

>>16465992
Super Heavy objectively sucks as a name, but frankly I've come around to Starship, it could be improved but it's better than MCT/ITS/BFR imo. Acronyms suck.

>>16465992
They should've stuck with the name bigger nigger imo when Elon came up with it. I have no idea why they changed it.

Wasn't expecting that on /o/

>>16465910
Wouldn't look good though.

Various Themis flight hardware (3 years late)

>>16466010
>(3 years late)
very fast

>>16466012
desu the original timeline was unrealistic
You can't ask TWO separate consortium led by Arianegroup, one funded by the ESA, and another by the EU space agency (yes both are separate), using two different launch site, two different designs, to develop a new Medium-launcher class reusable methalox 1st stage with new engines and expect it to be done in 3 years (original timeline), it's very late, but not unexpectedly so.

>>16466019
I mean, it's very fast for Europe. I'm actually impressed that the hardware already exists.

>>16465976
yeah, there was payload hardware spotted already. We will be waiting for license again though.

>>16466031
tfw by next year we'll have a starship a month or better

>>16465972
No one likes Indians.
People feel visceral disgust when they see an average Indian.
But it's honestly not nice to feel that way about another human being who didn't do anything bad to you so people just stay quiet and pretend they don't exist.

.

> The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals upholds a jury verdict that cleared Elon Musk of all allegations of having misled investors with his 2018 “funding secured” tweet for taking Tesla private.
We're going to win so much, you may even get tired of winning.

In another news
>Virgin Galactic seeks to raise money to accelerate growth of spaceplane fleet
>Virgin Galactic is proposing to raise $300 million in additional capital to accelerate production of suborbital spaceplanes and a mothership aircraft the company says can fuel its long-term growth.

https://spacenews.com/virgin-galactic-seeks-to-raise-money-to-accelerate-growth-of-spaceplane-fleet/

>>16466050
Who asked

>>16466050
Women have exceeded their credit limit for concern and I have no fucks to give for their fears.

>>16466050
Is that starship shopped in?
What the fuck is this art supposed to be about anyways?

>>16466051
idk how VG even gets funding
you would think venture capital would know better

>>16465738
fortunately yes

>>16466057
It's implying that celebrating space exploration as a benefit of the trump win is whitewashing/overshadowing women's issues.
Basically an IRL no fun allowed post

>>16466057
Well the original art is about women wishing to become sexless to avoid issues like objectification and rape.
I’m not sure what the meaning is supposed to be when you photoshop starship in, because now it sounds like it’s complaining that people ignored women and voted for space.

>>16466063
Women voted 45% trump so evidently women don't care either.

>>16466050
>Future Blue Origin Astronaut
lmao
these people don't care about space, its just a way to get attention for them, a niche that they think they could occupy

https://x.com/thespacegal?lang=en

>>16466057
"You picked faster launch cadence over my rights to kill my baby!"

>>16466069
You're goddamned right we did.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1854534490636329405

>>16466077
After all that it can barely carry more than New Glenn

>>16466078
New Glenn can't carry jack shit. Come back when you've actually launched something, blueboy.

>>16466082
Starship can't carry shit either, it's only purpose is to burn fuel.

>>16466078
Makes sense, New Glenn is designed to enable permanent space habitation, Starship is designed to enable permanent Mars habitation.

>>16465644
I think he has a funny face so I like to post him

if you think the screeching is bad now, wait until DOGE actually starts cutting pointless programs

/sfg/ - Politically Incorrect

>>16465935
>there wont be any adults left
Dad is back, and he's PISSED

This is my politics

>>16466050
Your body, my choice. Forever.

>>16466078
New glenn can carry 150 tons? based bezos

>>16466108
Fat Glenn can.

>>16466108
Imagine trying to fit 150 tons into 600 cubic meters

>>16466060
>you would think venture capital would know better
lmao
m
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>>16466114
A 150ton steel brick would be like 3% of that volume

>>16466097

>>16466121
>that beam of light
fuck fuck fuck I want to FUCK THE ROCKET

>>16466121
I'd imagine with a leg, it could potentially land on a small island or deserted area down in Australia

>>16466127
I wonder, it was going sideways quite a bit

>>16466121
Downright surreal
>>16466127
I wonder if an earth starship will ever have legs

>>16466063
Yeah but I don't care about a woman's right to murder babies, I do care a lot about our space program, though.

>>16466135

>>16466127
It still can land on a skirt.

>>16466135
SLS delenda est

>>16466139
Or they could repeat this.

>>16466135
We stackin'?

>>16466145
I remember these things from gym class

lol

>>16466149
What's new shepard doing there?

>>16466114
600 cubic meters of water weighs 600 tons

>>16465882
CRTs are quite vulnerable to ionizing radiation

>>16466129
That was on purpose, they mentioned during the livestream they were going to land at a bit of an angle

>>16466078
>After all that it can barely carry more than New Glenn
>45 tons with partial reuse vs 100+ tons with full reuse

Yeah.

>>16466138
>nasa actually acknowledging starship exists
what?

>>16466161
it's hard to acknowledge starship more than the HLS contract

>>16466161
Timeline shifted, antagonism ended now SpaceX is NASA's bff.

>>16466114
>Imagine trying to fit 150 tons into 600 cubic meters

>>16466135
>>16466138
>>16466144
>>16466149
where is this from?

>>16466149
Funny to imagine the oldspace nonsense on the moon while a Mars city is being built. Really depends on what NASA does over the next little bit. Would be funny if Elon's government reform is entirely self centered and only fixes NASA and his Starbase impediments.
I have to wonder what Bezos is feeling right now.

>>16466162
oh come the fuck on dude, you know exactly what i'm talking about.
in what promotional material for artemis have you seen starship?
fucking nowhere.

There's no way starbase factory can make a new starship every 3 days

>>16466127
iirc, SpaceX is in discussion with Australia for this kind of thing

>>16466172
Why would it need to?
You know they plan on reusing them.

>>16466175
>not because they are easy but because they make me hard

>>16466005
this got posted on /o/?

>>16466181
It was, but the source is stack exchange.
https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/44582/what-are-the-challenges-in-recovering-falcon-9s-second-stage-this-way

>>16466172
What constraints would prevent that? Materials? Labor? How frequently do you think they'll bang them out?
>>16466177
Elon's plan means they'll need at least 10,000. You don't reuse the Mars ships

Could new shepard use the abort motor in the crew capsule as a second stage if they wanted to sound even higher?

>>16466183
>you don't reuse the mars ships
uh, yeah, you do.

>>16466184
yes, you could also throw your parachutes out of the window to get even higher!

>>16466186
Most other sounding rockets consider parachutes to be dead weight.

>>16466185
uh, no you don't. Think about how much work it would take the Martians to generate the lox and methane to return a ship that's outdated by two years by the time it arrives. Meanwhile Earth made 2000 in the meantime. It's just a function of cost. With $90k of steel and ~$5mil in engines it just isn't worth it. You'll return them full of people and rocks but that's it.

>>16466188
>leave earth in flagship ship
>when you return it's outdated scrapyard fees
Please

vertical stand is kill

>>16466189
yes

>>16466190
So that's why they went so balls to the wall crazy with it lately setting all sorts of Raptor records

lmao no way there was an actual crabs in the bucket anti-space meeting

>>16466189
I'm saying it isn't worth the cost on the Mars side. Spending precious energy and resources to send away a couple hundred tons of preprocessed metals? No way

Elon is obviously one of most powerful person in the world right now.

>>16466198
it is shocking to reflect on his amassed wealth, influence, and military power. His resources alone could probably wage war against most countries on Earth.

>>16465970
It's rad hardened out of principle. It is emitting (relatively speaking) hard radiation during normal operation.
There's nothing that radiation could damage within the tube itself
Maybe the phosphors on the actual screen might degrade under extreme radiation.

Thin film transistor layer on LCD will get obliterated long before the phosphors do

>>16466093
/sfg/ was unironically a better election thread than anything in /pol/

>>16466202
>>16466198
I was one of those who posted quite often about how I hate his turn towards politics and supporting and batting for Trump like crazy, cause that would all come back to bite him on the ass if the democrats won and retaliated against SpaceX, even started to worry that if Dems won then they might be so vindictive enough as to alter SpaceX's HLS contract..

Crazy how things played out, dude took such a major gamble burned all the remaining bridges - and it paid off, respect.

>>16466206
it was so bad the he wasn't almost given a choice (not just specifically about the harassment and slow bureaucracy but where US was headed generally speaking)
some of the stuff going had Maoist vibes (or still has, the people and their agendas haven't gone anywhere)
and its not over yet, the reforms have to actually happen

>>16466210
Yeah but an unbelievably huge amount of pressure just got lifted off him, dude's gotta be elated as fuck, and Flight 6 is coming up too

>>16466189
not that anon, but anyway, I think the main reason is that most ships won't return. Maybe 9/10 ships will be cargo, and beside a few rocks, there's zero reason to return these, even if all the people return (which hopefully won't happen)

>>16466123
anime coomer brain poison as near as I can tell

>>16465841
the FAA will get abolished by end of January if they keep their bullshit

ULA company wide meeting.
No special trans treatment they already get their own bathroom.
Tory can't stop talking about Musk, and he is parroting DOGE. Remember that a physical minted dogecoin flew on CERT1 and legitimately orbited the moon.
Fucking buy nerds.
>t "engineer"

>>16466069

>>16466198
>>16466202
It helps that he's really interested in the more altruistic industries of society with vehicles, energy, AI, civlization level discourse, and space exploration--and not using all that money and power to cantankerize society as most billionaires have a tendency to do.

>>16466077
>~10,000% lower than Saturn V.
100% lower means zero. 10,000% lower goes into negatives and is a bit nonsensical. -99 times of the cost.
1% of the cost or 99% lower cost is probably what he meant.

MARSLINK

>>16465930
Two weeks give or take

>>16466185
>>16466188
>$90k of steel
The steel alone would be worth 100x more left on mars than returned and reused, rapid reuse will only be needed for the orbital lifters and refuelling ships from earth. There might be benefits in creating a depot of spare parts from the landed ships in LMO just incase a ship lost a few tiles or a raptor burnt out but not in returning a whole ship just to send it to mars again.
Mars return will only be a sure thing for the ships carrying the first astronauts.

All the ASTS shills in panic because of Elon lol

>>16466225
ok so not only communication but imagining
cool

https://www.marssociety.org/news/2024/11/07/statement-of-mars-society-president-dr-robert-zubrin-concerning-the-election-of-donald-trump/

New Mars Society Zubrin saltmine openned up.

>That said, whatever we think of the various policies that Mr. Trump has put on offer, there is one that I and the vast majority of Mars Society members certainly support: his promise to initiate a program to send humans to the Red Planet. We will therefore support that initiative, not because we agree with Mr. Trump, but because on this issue, he agrees with us.

>>16466219
>fanfiction
buy what

>>16466231
I just know he was absolutely fucking seething that he had to write this. I couldve sworn I saw a post of him endorsing Harris but cant find it on his TL now

>>16466231
>Mr. Trump
Excuse me, that's PRESIDENT Trump to you, baldie.

Does anyone have the side profile of Zubrin?

>>16466214
speaking of anime coomer brain poison
ordering ChatGPT to talk like anime girl as you ask it random questions that you would normally google is a complete game changer

>>16466135
>>16466138
I love the juxtaposition between old space and new
>Look! SLS is being assembled, aren't these adapters cool?
>also, SpaceX managed to catch a skyscraper

>>16465970
>>16466203
its not a retro future, its a rational future

>>16466241
what does it say?

>>16466240

>>16466229
The ASTS hype felt so fake, they have no satellites, no contracts, they pay full price for their launches, did anyone seriously expect them to overtake a constellation that already has 8000 satellites in orbit?

>>16466225
Why not call it X Band, fits with musk’s obsession with the letter X

>>16466225
source?

>>16466229
>government can't fire FCC members
friends of the administrative state are going to be in for a very rough time these coming SCOTUS terms

>>16466260
lame, doesn't scale, requires clarification if you mean XBand Mars or XBand Moon or XBand Titan,

>MOONLINK
>MARSLINK
>TITANLINK
Self evident and cooler

>>16466264
and then what do you call the DSN-like inter-network that links the planets? SolarLink?

>>16466202
>amassed wealth
Paper wealth at the limit of liquidity thanks to how over-leveraged he is.

>Influence
Who needs who more right now...Trump, who might be able to pardon himself, or Musk, who needs a relief from various Federal investigations?

>military power
Starshield is it.

Musk is a two-legged wallet who the Trump campaign took for a ride.

>>16466227
The only thing that isn't useful is the tiles. Seriously what the fuck will the tiles be used for? Railroad track ballast?

>>16466267
SOL-LINK
(SOVL LINK)

>>16466234
he has been seething about trump for a long time

>>16466253
Kek look at this manlet. Now we need an edit of this that makes him a chinlet (see picrel for example).

>>16466233
Checked, you wish, and I left the ticker

>>16466233
>buy what
nerds

>>16466261
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1854570637362110761

>>16466264
>starlink
for use on earth, not stars

>>16466273
Making fun of people's appearance is rude.

>>16466285
>Starship

>>16466292
MCR

>>16466269
>The only thing that isn't useful is the tiles. Seriously what the fuck will the tiles be used for?
Bathroom walls and or floor?

>>16466301
soundproofing

>>16466301
>>16466303
Or will they be radioactive?

Laser-gun target practice

>>16466301
No way. They're super brittle and hard to detach. Whatever use they find not stuck to the side of a Starship will be post-shattering

>>16466310
Insulation dumbass

spess marshals when?

I bought arduino, I'm going to make it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4eOE4BV2JY
Starlink maybe in 25 min

4 years of pure space progress, brilliant pebbles, and BTFOing the chinese, bwos it's a great feeling.

>>16466318
What does this post mean

>>16466332
2 years until the midterms, though yeah at least the DOJ etc won't do lawfare anymore

>>16466335
Elon just has to get Starship across the line, then his spaceship becomes strategic defense important and MAD gets turned off for the US renaissance

Trump has closed the border to hurricanes

>>16466279
Roger that, Im all in. Thanks anonymos

>>16466252
it explains stuff as usual while powering up your glioblastomas

>>16466318

>>16466342
thanks anon, you just gave me cancer.

>>16466342
damn, written just like some1 with twitter bio:
>AUDHD, trans, neurospicy, HRT 5/22, she/her, obsessed with alloys and stainless steel analysis~

>>16466352
that's what you get when you scrape internet for training data

>>16466342
cute, now I want to fuck chatgpt

>>16466331
another boring launch success. yawn

The next picture will blow your minds

>>16466374
oh, they flew it again? I wasn't paying attention

>>16466376
Look at that emblem

>>16466374
SpaceX: making spaceflight so routine even the autists aren't interested

>>16466379

>>16466379
Banana for scale?

>>16466379
Now there's a non-zero chance of anime girls appearing on future ships.

>>16466379
is it because they are peeling the shield like a banana?
woukd be interesting to see if the decal makes it to landing

dickbutt when

what are the terms of the Touhou Project again?
I want to see some Cirno on the Super Heavy

frogs aren't copyrighted so pepe will go to mars first

>>16466389
I'd say it's only a matter of time
didn't JAXA use anime girls in official mission art and stuff already

>>16466401
I'm pretty sure pepe is copyrighted

>>16466402
oh god
they paid anime studio to make promotional video for a weather satellite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGUddLHDVts

>>16466402
>>16466413
also partnered with Suisei to send her to space

>>16466413
holy kino
this should be more common

>>16464351
WE GAAN

>>16465684
it comes from the no no place

>>16466429
girl pee then

>>16465912
because there will be like 10-12 psi in the dome not 200 psi?

>>16465684
it's actually the lock part thats the problem

>>16466430
Girls don't pee

>>16466092
>first they came for my right to an abortion but I said nothing as I had chosen not to have children but then they came for my lazy girl job...

>>16466413
These space startups are getting weird https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2nPg42xsXg

>>16466442
and pisslocks don't exist
what's your point

>>16466389
Someone tweet at Elon to put Krystal or Clear decals on Starship.

>>16466379

>>16466455
Why are the tiles glowing?

>>16466455
Watch out how some people WILL complain about this.

oh nice, the onions boys and the Burgoid are having a podcast
this should be at least mildly entertaining/informative
https://youtu.be/ph5QddxOY54

>>16465984
>>16465986
I like this company. No big promises or revolutionary tech, just make cheap rockets and get mass to orbit because China needs as much launch capacity as possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Qn6WQc87U

>>16466379
>>16466455
source???
i can't find it

>>16466457
polish

>>16466465
https://x.com/lifeatstagezero/status/1854620246050554244

>>16466465
anon was trespassing to get those pics

>>16466413
I'd watch a whole anime of NASA/JAXA shenanigans like this.

>>16466457
It's bare metal, you can look at the bottom where 1 tile is sticking out.

>>16466457
rgb gamer lights

>crypto scam streams are already up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCtrT2TYb6U

>>16466413
cool, but I still hate modern anime so much. Nothing like 90s ol' school

>>16466206
Never NEVER NEVER NEVER bet against Elon Musk.

>>16466479
Youtube will do nothing. Elon should buy Google, hand all the records and paperwork over to the Trump DOJ, then liquidate the company.

>>16466479
>>16466482
I can 100% guarantee you there are jeets in Google management who get a cut from the proceeds of these scams, in exchange for protecting them.

>>16466481
except that time about him saying that a flame trench was not needed lmao

>>16466457
Blue LED lights help with cooling

>>16466487
I bet that will be revisited eventually. Like Dragon originally being meant to use propulsive landing, then switching to parachutes. But Starship won't use parachutes. T he future is trenchless.

>>16466225
>exceeds requested capability
>extra ability for global imaging and monitoring

Can you imagine that conversation:
>NASA: "hey, can you give us Hubble for Mars? One of those gen1 birds?"
>SpaceX: "how about we give you 23 JWSTs for the price of one?"

That last line is about as close to uncontrollable shit eating grin as you can get from a formal NASA document.

>>16466225
>Building satellite constellations around other planets

holy based

>Spent some time reading through Starlink's 2024 gateway filings with the FCC and noticed someone at SpaceX has been getting away with slipping in some rather humorous nicknames for these locations, like the "StressX" and "The fr fr" gateways.
https://x.com/ChenrySpace/status/1854579921689231623

Swift's body, Elon's Choice.

>>16466225
>exceeds requested capability, extra ability for global imaging and monitoring
Imagine being at NASA and reading that proposal for the first time

>>16466497
the on god no cap gateway

>>16466388
>Banana for scale?
thats my guess too

>>16466389
>Now there's a non-zero chance of anime girls appearing on future ships.
that reminds me, anime series love to do official collabs. if spacex does an anime character, then it's unlikely to be a pre-existing one, but millions of people watching every launch does provide a strong incentive for an official collab...

it wouldnt be out of place either, because you see similar characters cropping up more and more these days. like we had hololive characters opening for an MLB game, and genshin impact branding at mcdonalds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGWFzRdVgtE
https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/1fjzqm8/genshinmcdonalds_collab/

i just hope its not a fucking cat girl

>>16466267
>>16466270
both of you are wrong, it will be called heliolink

>>16466505
very cute
I love anime "girls" so much

>Heroinlink

>Marslink
It's too much winning for me...
I can't handle it...

>>16466505
i love catgirls and i want the cheshire cat from monster girl encyclopedia to be put on the next test flight.
pls elon

Eric-sama???

>>16466497
Zoomers continue to prove they are based and it's not that every generation hates its progeny but that millenials were just as bad as xoomers said.

>>16466517
You need to kys troon

after that Starship deploys all those Marslink sats in Mars orbit it should rendezvous with Phobos, set down on it, and then provide us with 24/7 4k views of the Phobos horizon and the surface of Mars passing below. (and then chuck out a javelin that buries itself upright and then an American flag unfurls from the top)

>>16466225
its way too early for a martian constellation, but the fact that they're considering hosting imaging and other payloads on it makes me think that it could happen sooner than expected. nasa would love to invest in something like that.

>>16466532
>24/7 weather monitoring and SAR scans
it must be a literal wet dream for those guys

https://x.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1854623237327520099

this dude worked for NASA for 34 years

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLycOxuipej3yzrC2MnHYmg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3YKJaVbXzI

>>16466532
there is going to be a *lot* of robotic exploration conducted from the base and high capacity, low latency datalinks enable that

>>16466537
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNxpXEmznGs

what causes this kind of mental illness in adults that are this old? white male guilt gone so far that they seek to be part of some "marginalized" group or something?

>space is growing in importance every year
>nasa's budget continues to decline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA
grim

>>16466548
going forward, they'll only need to produce probes and enough funds to pay elon for a cab ride to anywhere in the solar system.

>>16466502
"Dang it's too cheap, we won't be able to use all our budget if we go with this but it would be cool. Guess we'll go with Lockheed Martin for this one too"

https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1854566909326262698

>>16466572
what can we expect?

>>16466573
It's a thread, don't you have an account? Marslink nigga

>>16466575
post the screenshot of it retard. nobody reads the post if u dont include it because clicking links is gay

>https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/what-will-a-second-trump-term-mean-for-space-policy/
did we look at this yet?

>The bottom line is that no one knows today how space programs and policies will fare in a second Trump term. Trump is enthusiastic about the U.S. Space Force, sending people to Mars, and Elon Musk. In his first term, he was not enthusiastic about NOAA or NASA’s STEM education program or some of its science projects, especially earth science.
>Trump will have to decide if he wants to keep the National Space Council or not. If he does, by law the Vice President chairs it. Then-Vice President Pence played a major role in space policy in the first Trump term. Incoming Vice President JD Vance does not appear to have any background in space, but Pence’s was limited when he became chair so that is not necessarily an indicator of what Vance might do.
>The key to what the U.S. can accomplish in space over the next four years will be budgets, so keep an eye out for Trump’s first budget submission in the spring for clues.

>>16466577
I'm on the phone

>>16466579
i include phone screenshots of my xeet shares too, idiot. dont be a lazy faggot. effortpost from now on or dont post at all.

>>16466578
is elon able to chair this? vance probably doesnt know shit about space seeing as hes from ohio, elon would be the perfect guy from trumps inner circle to deal with this and let the private sector flourish. it does seem to be more about national security though, so who knows. either really hope elon gets the message through to him to start upping funding to nasa science projects specifically, and maybe do some audits of artemis and start cancelling useless shit.

>>16466584
>maybe do some audits of artemis and start cancelling useless shit.
>Thinking Elon will cancel Congress pork

>>16466588
Elon likes SLS money NOT going to him but instead ML-2? News to me!

>>16466195

>>16466321
Is this just someone using spare parts to make a mockup?
Or did americans just not like circular windows in the circa 1960s; worried about structural integrity or something

>>16466572
>LMO satellites could gain a second life as a relay satellite in a higher orbit
Daily thread reminder that gravity is the great satan of our time

>>16466594
>did americans just not like circular windows in the circa 1960s; worried about structural integrity or something
Yes

Vote for your favourite planet/moon!

https://commoninja.site/sfg

Let's see which one is /sfg/'s favourite! What are your predictions?

>>16466195
4ASS must destroy SSASS.

>>16466596
This was more about saving mass and minmaxxing the window to be as functionally utilitarian as possible

>>16466321
why does it have a Demon Core on top?

>>16466342
it misspelled "Autistic Stainless Steel"

>>16466597
Almost all of the stuff I like is on Earth.

>>16466532
>too early
Nah man, we should have comm satellites around every fucking orbital body in the solar system so we don't have to rely on the turd that is DSN.

>>16466601
Maybe surplus cores were cheaper than cyanide pills?

>>16466603
But also everything you hate.

>>16466541
bad raising, their parents were too wuss to ever say "no"
this is the final evolution of the spoiled brat

>>16466606
you still need relay sats between the planets because the sun will block communications

>>16466584
>vance probably doesnt know shit about space seeing as hes from ohio

>>16466610
Only for (((two weeks))) every two years.
Not that big of a deal.

>>16466613
>>16466610
Two weeks for earth-mars, i mean.

>>16466608
True, more of the stuff I hate is on Earth than not.

>>16466415
s-SUISPACE?!

>>16466455
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvd31VvDQBM

>>16466578
All we know for sure is that the alternative was just more neglect. Trump is very open to public/private partnerships to get things done quickly. Unfortunately, those partnerships are often exploited. (Or unsuccessful in Congress -- Trump's first term infrastructure plan went nowhere.) Elon is seizing this opportunity with both hands. The problem, of course, is still Congress. Debt ceiling gets hit before January. Trump will have to pull off a miracle his first hundred days in office: an actual budget instead of a continuing resolution. I suspect the SLS will get sacrificed on this altar. Who will be our Augustine this time?

>>16465614
What the actual fuck am I reading. This is pure mind rot. What does mining space rocks and terraforming mars have to do with white supremacy?

>>16466617
stale suipiss lock...

Today I learned that NASA can detect gravity waves from storms in the atmosphere.

https://science.nasa.gov/science-research/heliophysics/hurricane-helenes-gravity-waves-revealed-by-nasas-awe/

>NASA’s Atmospheric Waves Experiment, or AWE, recorded enormous swells in the atmosphere that the hurricane produced roughly 55 miles above the ground. Such information helps us better understand how terrestrial weather can affect space weather, part of the research NASA does to understand how our space environment can disrupt satellites, communication signals, and other technology.

"Launched in November 2023 and mounted on the outside of the International Space Station, the AWE instrument looks down at Earth, scanning for atmospheric gravity waves, ripple-like patterns in the air generated by atmospheric disturbances such as violent thunderstorms, tornadoes, tsunamis, wind bursts over mountain ranges, and hurricanes. It does this by looking for brightness fluctuations in colorful bands of light called airglow in Earth’s mesosphere. AWE’s study of these gravity waves created by terrestrial weather helps NASA pinpoint how they affect space weather."

>These views of gravity waves from Hurricane Helene are among the first publicly released images from AWE, confirming that the instrument has the sensitivity to reveal the impacts hurricanes have on Earth’s upper atmosphere.

Anons, is it true that the incoming Trump administration is hostile to NOAA for some reason? I seem to remember someone in a previous thread mentioning this, or maybe I read that elsewhere.
I certainly hope they aren't, the GOES satillites are very important for several reasons including space weather.
There certainly would be no good reason to be adversarial, considering the importance of GOES.

>>16466610
Every single orbital body in the solar system wont' be blocked by the sun at the same time.

>tldr

not only does space weather affect earth weather, earth weather also affects space weather

>>16466624
Not that kind of gravity wave. It's just a wave in the atmosphere that produces those clouds that look like ripples.

>>16466627
it's the same thing
these waves in the atmosphere is caused by gravitational flux

>In the Earth's atmosphere, gravity waves are a mechanism that produce the transfer of momentum from the troposphere to the stratosphere and mesosphere. Gravity waves are generated in the troposphere by frontal systems or by airflow over mountains.

>effects can be small-scale (like the generation of gravity waves by convection)
>this momentum deposition by planetary-scale Rossby waves gives rise to sudden stratospheric warmings and the deposition by gravity waves gives rise to the quasi-biennial oscillation

what am I missing here

>>16466626
Fake and gay.

>>16466620
Artemis is only about $7B per year which is minuscule compared to the waste that's going on in the rest of the government. The Broadband Equity, Access, and Deployment act spent $42 billion dollars to connect zero homes to high speed internet, and that was only one small part of Biden's infrastructure omnibus plan. Two BEADs is roughly equal to the entire Artemis budget to date. Washington spent about the same amount as Artemis' yearly budget on a program that built eight EV charging stations. Washington's budget is a target-rich environment and Artemis is WAY down the list.

As much as I hate the politics that created it, SLS shouldn't get axed right away. It needs to be replaced with a more economical commercial solution but that's going to take time to spin up no matter what architecture is used. Just cutting Gateway, EUS, and ML-2 saves a lot of money while still allowing Artemis 2 and 3 to launch as-is with hardware that's already under construction. That will give everyone time to not have to rush a better option.

There's also the wildcard poised by Orion's heat shield issue. That's got a better chance to sink the program than the current budget issues.

>>16466631
tidal forces exist and affect space weather
deal with it

>>16466630
Not gravitational radiation if that's what you're thinking

>>16466633
>The Broadband Equity, Access, and Deployment act spent $42 billion dollars to connect zero homes to high speed internet
you had better believe that Elon has that in his crosshairs after Starlink was shafted out of those sweet, sweet subsidies

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-6

When did this show up

>>16466645
Starlink was RDOF though and that has actually been working and connecting homes for over a year now.

>>16466646
nov 6

>>16466643
that "radiation" is one of the things that cause air to descend slightly from higher to lower, which is the atmospheric wave, and it's caused in large part by the movement and evaporation of the liquid waters that cover most of our planet

this effect causes energy and momentum to be tranferred vertically as a function of this ocillation

>>16466646
>The 30-minute launch window will open at 4:00 p.m. CT
Oh shit I could just take the day off work and drive down then be back home at like 10. Would be a long day but that's some nice timing.

>>16466666
nta but gravity waves ≠ gravitational waves. The weather phenomenon is not related to what is measured at LIGO

>>16466633
>commercial solution
Why does it have to be commercial? There is only SpaceX and others are jokes.

Not having to reuse every stage makes any misison much easier. NASAs job should be to push with non reusable missions which commercial can't do.
SLS still has potential to be better than Saturn V if they build a proper upper stage and force the program to launch at least 5x a year.
If there are boeing shaped bottlenecks making that impossible then NASA should make deep space upper stages for Superheavy.

>>16466594
The hatch was reused from the Gemini capsule. apparently the whole airlock reused a bunch of parts originally designed for Gemini, like the ventilation system. kinda based if you ask me.

>gravity waves ≠ gravitational waves
stfu

>>16465615
first sentence 2bh

>>16466656
$0 went to Starlink. RDOF was cancelled by Biden admin chief on her first day.

>>16466645
This needs to be redone so that customers can decide who they want as service. Just like how they apply for lifeline, they can apply for lifeline for Starlink ad be done with. If not that, then just cancel the program all together since Starlink is already available for $100/m anyway.

>>16466617
SUISPACE!

>>16466708

>>16466709
They sent her plushie to space too, Clear mogged

Thoughts?

>>16466723
>Neural Link

>>16466723
average EDS person