/sci/ - Science & Math

>>16440093
kino

>you know what really grinds my gears
>newfag stages

>>16440086
why was he so terrified of depots?

no space related structure should be named after shelby. his family name should be damnatio memoriae.

woah

>>16440102
happens after every IFT at this point DESU
expect things to get worse in 20 years when more normalfags get access to spaceflight and it becomes more undeniable to retards the role it plays in their daily lives.

>>16440109
sfg wont exist in 20 years, we'll all be on marsnet

>>16440105
this is specifically meant to mock him for all eternity.
when it is decomissioned it will be raised to a graveyard orbit and the tanks inside will be refit into a museum purely dedicated to spitting on his corruption and attempts to stifle the true birth of spaceflight in the cradle.
children 20 generations from now will be spitting on his grave.

>>16440112
ah shit you're right.

>whats the deal with space station food?

>>16440086
Who were the most prominent anti-space congresspeople during Apollo 50-60 years ago? It's high time their exploits are held up next to this pedophile's.

I wanna live here

Reminder

>>16440113
he's a politician, any notoriety including mockery is music to his ears.
no, the only way of punishing these people is removing their wealth and fame, and you do the latter by erasing his name, not his deed, from the history book.

>>16440133
No its not. Most politicians want to have a good reputation to mask their corruption. Having mostly hatred on you means youre looked at under a microscope for these corruptions. There is no benefit to having negative attention as a politician.

>>16440086

>>16440122
>clearly designed around a "down"
discarded

>>16440093
we need more balloons in orbit. ideally wrapping every space station and eventually every colony.

>>16440122
cringe frame of reference station
needs 8 sided symmetry interior.

>>16440156

>>16440156
This does literally nothing and rips at a piece of sand flying by

>>16440160
OH NO! the exact same thing that would have happened if you stuck the aluminum pressure vessel but this time it's the superfluous outer balloon! how will the people hanging out in the space station in the space station ever recover?

I am in favor of inflatable space stations

>hhhuuurhhh *smacks lips* ehhrm guysh, i think we should *coughs from exhaustion* hhuuurhhhh alll buy some teshlash *braps*

>>16440163
well, there's nobody inside the space station TO recover.
they were having a nice hour of sunbathing outside the station's interior, and when the bubble got punctured their blood started boiling and they all died.

good job, anon.

Lmao

>>16440170

>>16440173
what a terrible, ugly drawing.
truly soulless and hideous.

>>16440112
I don't think I could give up living out in the country to live on Mars.
Sorry bro. Maybe once it's comfy under the giant mattress covered red wood forests of Mars will I come.
I'm sure low gravity will be a nice place to retire to.

>>16440174
I am just too enamored with this image right now, idk why

>>16440179
>>16440174
Not with your android dogshit but with >>16440170 which is why I posted it again

>>16440173
>still thinks Mexicans work at SpaceX.
All their low skill labour has been replaced by robots.

>>16440182
>t. burger flipper

>>16440180
nah, only losers are enamoured by that image
and calling nandroids dogshit is tantamount to branding yourself a subhuman.
fleshbag loving demon.

>>16440184
are you a seething mexican?

How far ahead do you think SX is thinking about the actual hardware and stuff for inhabiting Mars? Is that even a concern right now, or are they just going one step at a time with the rocket? Maybe it's not even that important, since a Starship is already a big living space and they also have a big drill to drill things with

>>16440188
FIRST
THINGS
FIRST

>>16440188
What a lovely hamster. Heres mine

>>16440188
>is that even a concern right now
no
and this is the same answer for anything else that's not the immediate next step to getting starship to work.
A, then B, then C, then D. not B and D at the same time.

>>16440188
I recently spoke to someone at a fortune 500 glass company that was approached by SpaceX to make something related to Starlink (the company fucked it up and was too slow). But SpaceX did get samples, and they tested them by launching them into space. That's probably how Mars dev will go. Instead of spending 50 years writing papers on it like NASA, they're just going to overwhelm the red planet with hardware and they'll know more every window. It's the SpaceX approach.

im goimg to fik the bunni

SPEHS x2

>>16440196
Makes sense, one issue I was thinking of just now that is there even good data on how the soil affects different materials? So it wouldn't make much sense to try designing living spaces, until they actually get stuff there and see how hard and fast the sand eats through stuff

>>16440203
oh yeah good point! I saw in the reddit movie the dust can be pretty dangerous!! :o

>>16440203
It'll be nowhere near as bad as moon dust

>>16440207
How much have people looked at that? During Apollo, didn't it end up being a bit of a surprise how sharp and sticky the lunar soil is

>>16440200
based
moon rabbitgirls will be raped.

>>16440210
Mars has an atmosphere

>>16440214
A very thin one thoughever

>>16440216
Doesn't matter for the moon dust issue

>vote for trump for SpaceX to go to ma- ACK!!!!

>>16440218
back to the sharty subhumanoid

>>16440185
Sorry anon, I'm a slave to my genes. Can't wean myself off that flesh.

>>16440218
reddit trannies really trying to take the tranny-ack meme lmao

>>16440119
You young uns don't remember William Proxmire but he was every space nerds enemy back in the day

What's Bloombergs angle really? That whole article is sus even if it appears on the surface to be praising SpaceX.

No Artemis means no HLS or Gateway logistics money for SpaceX, no people on the moon isn't inspiring either.

>sees Starship succeed and the first thought that immediately comes to mind is how much this can benefit robotic space exploration and we must cancel Artemis and Gateway

wtf

>>16440231
Its sus alright. They've been attacking Musk/Tesla for a decade with daily FUDs. A sudden thought about Moon mission from the owner of the company, a huge Biden voter, should ring an alarm bell. Its fake.

>>16440227
NASA was over budget and out of order with nothing to show for it.
Somebody needed to give them a dose of reality and decrease the burden on the taxpayer.

>>16440231
Certain NASA contractors and senators would like the constellation cancel into artemis thing to happen again, since they'd get a huge amount of money and jobs increase again.

>>16440231
Like people said it was a reaction to the successful test, not motivated by personal interest, as Bloomberg does not give a fuck about space or own controlling interest in a space company
If I was being generous I'd say this dude wants to see Americans on the moon while he's still alive
If I'm being cynical he does have a financial interest, it just isn't disclosed

>>16440240
>this dude wants to see Americans on the moon while he's still alive
He's a "muh robots" fag that wants no humans in space exploration, still thinks Artemis is about picking up rocks instead of ISRU and water-ice, doesn't know shit about Artemis.

At best like I said there is no ulterior motive for that article and he just wants Starship used for robotic space exploration and move that along faster/cheaper, can't know for sure though.

Artemis shouldn't be cancelled but Block 1B and ML-2 and EUS can fuck off

>>16438658
>The gravity gradient (a greater gravitational pull on the parts of objects closest to Earth) can affect the orientation of satellites in space, inexorably pulling them out of alignment.

Wait what that's an actual thing? Damn

>>16440231
Honestly I don't even care about it anymore. Public funding is largely wasted. SpaceX has only received half a NASA budget year over the last two decades. With Starlink it just doesn't matter. SpaceX will colonize Mars regardless of what the government does

>>16440248
i've never heard tidal force to be significant at this level

>>16440173
based and boomer cartoon pilled

>>16440231
buying political favor, without going off-topic

>>16440218
erm its X now sweetie...

>>16440200

>You are voting for me aren't you anon?

>>16440263
trump doesn't look like this, trump is much uglier than the guy in this picture.

>>16440265
that'll be 100 billion usd, plus tip

>>16440258
His bet if Trump wins?

>>16440231
>dropping a scathing Artemis hitpiece less than a month before NASA makes its decision on the Orion heatshield

oh man, this might do massive PR damage to NASA

>A celestial irony is that none of this is necessary. A reusable SpaceX Starship will very likely be able to carry people, cargo and robots directly to the moon — no SLS, Orion, Gateway, Block 1B or ML-2 required — at a small fraction of the cost. Its successful landing of the Starship booster was a breakthrough that demonstrated how far beyond NASA it is moving.

Very good point Mr. Bloomberg

>>16440276
but the jobs

>>16440086
I pray that Shelby clings to life long enough to have a depot named after him.

>>16440231
Moreover, more people are waking up that with the current approach, you're basically handing over the Moon to China.

Miss SpaceX when?

>>16440286
again he doesn't care about that, he'd probably be happy to let Chinese boots hop around the lunar surface if Artemis cancelled means more robotic missions be funded instead

https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1847727600346812879

Polaris kino dropped

>>16440287
imagine copulating with that woman

here we go again...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75a49S4RTRU

>>16440301
I've never watched a single second of his content and I never will. same reason I dont go on x to debate flerfs

>>16440302
yeah, i don't watch him either, but it surprised me that he doubled down again.

>>16440188
If you read the book on musk you'd know they've been talking weekly about how to colonize mars since the companies inception
I think they have some ideas and are probably working on some stuff

Just finished Liftoff. Seems like most of the problems with F1 were directly or indirectly caused by that shithole island.

>>16440301
let me guess
>timelines inaccurate
>development costs a lot of money
>refurbishment will be expensive and slow (evidence: the shuttle referbishment was expensive and slow)

>>16440301
Buy an ad

>>16440231
>What's Bloombergs angle really?

He outright states that we should not be sending people to the Moon.

>>16440330
No he does not we discussed this in the other thread you fucking retard. Sending robots and cargo PRECEDES human landing aswell, he only states that ‘robots’ should do SCIENCE MISSIONS alone, he spoke to nothing on colonization only science missions. You mischaracterize everything for no reason when a big name is standing up for SpaceX despite political leanings

>>16440316
Liftoff is a great book, falcon 1 had blood sweat and tears holding it together.
Hoping Reentry is as good.

>>16440325
don't forget the 20-minute introduction where rants about hyperloop

>>16440301
Thvnderchad raises some good points.

>>16440349
Give me the main points of the video then.

>>16440231
Bloomberg is an absolute cretin. People like him and Mike Griffin need to shut up and die

>>16440325
you forgot a 45 second long 240p clip from a movie where someone goes "oh no" or something

>>16440351
Starship is a useless steel trashcan and NASA propulsively landed on Mars so SpaceX catching its gigantic boondoggle steel trash can is not just stupidly stupid but its also stupidly easy and is only praised by idiots who know nothing.

>>16440231
>Gateway
kekarooey

>>16440339
He didn't state it but he certainly implied it, read between the lines

>>16440339
He literally argues in favor of outright replacing Artemis with robotic missions.

>>16440301
The grifter has fooled millions into becoming his paypig subscribers. LMAO

>>16440346
Hyper loop wasn’t even Musk’s deal. That was Branson.

>>16440301
I just realized that this absolute filth didn't even made a video on the starliner fiasco, must not be pleasing his mongoloid supporters I guess
this is the most obvious grift I have ever seen

>>16440340
Reentry is a bit worse than Liftoff. It feels more like a collection of anectodes than a continuous story, but it's still a really good book and a must-read if you like SpaceX

>>16440386
He also didn't make a video about: Arcaspace, Blue Origin, SLS, Gateway, Astra, Orel, Rus-M, Nauka, Irtysh, SLS block 2, Orion's heatshield, ML-2, and so on and so forth.. SpaceX are the only scammers in the industry lmao

cute ruzzian gril reacts to starship flight 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuQKWVgfJgo

>>16440108
REALLY MAKES YOU THINK

>>16440188
????????

what the fuck do you think he started tesla, pushed self driving, hypertube shit, boring company, solar panel bullshit, etc etc for ?
It's all about mars, its always been

one autistic man and a dream

>>16440393
sad to think that she's going to be sold as a sex slave when her country collapses.

>>16440376
I'd love to see the balloon that can do that

>>16440188
They have multiple concurrent programs running in multiple stages of development. The limits to number of actual concurrent development is money. They have a limited yearly budget and they cant be bothered to spend tens of billions per year. But when one project matures, this frees up budget for more projects. Mars development plan will come in concurrent with HLS (which will come as Starship matures and frees up critical development cost).

>>16440402
Think his father will wait that long?

>>16440315
Why is Shotwell openly anti Mars colonization?

What's this Bloomberg article you guys keep bringing up?

>>16440162
If you make it from a reasonable material and only pressurize it to one atmosphere, it shouldn't rip when punctured.

>>16440188
Step 1, become filthy rich launching Starlink and Brilliant Pebbles.
Step 2, ??????
Step 3, Mars Colony

Trust the plan (unironically)

>>16440420
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-10-17/michael-bloomberg-nasa-s-artemis-moon-mission-is-a-colossal-waste
posted last thread, try to keep up

>>16440425
Bloomberg thinks that all human spaceflight is a mistake

>>16440426
Bloomberg is a huge piece of shit who should be fed into a wood chipper.

>>16440393
She will be queen of Ukraine after Elon become president

>>16440393
cute by russian standards is a stretch but I'll give her a few points for liking rockets

>>16440432
Why would big E make some russian thot the leader of ukraine when he has already invested in ukraine's victory with the support of starlink?

>>16440393
Uncanny. She is in transition to babushka and has an unusual mix of girl and babushka facial features. In 5 years she will be unrecognisable

>>16440435
he's a putinbot

Say something nice about it.

>>16440441
>>16440402
newfag time is over
you can go back to /k/ now

>>16440444
fuck off rusnig

>>16440441
Cool it with the dehumanizing rhetoric.

>>16440446
>>16440444

>>16440442
>infographic shows a dime, not to scale, just in case somebody isn't sure what a coin is

>>16440444
So you agree, Elon is in the bin for Putler

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1847777433954767313

It turns out that this was 9 launches at just over $80 mil each.

Total oldspace death.

>>16440450
kek

Starship Interior . What do you think ?

>>16440393
>[Question from her simps]: What kind of parts are falling off?
>Well, some not very necessary parts.
based

>>16440456
You guys are going to be devastated when you see what interior NASA/SpaceX are cooking up for HLS

>>16440456
>rings of Saturn
It's dishonesty disgusts me

>>16440460
qrd?

>>16440456
>no circular running track
0/10 REDESIGN IT

>>16440456
no way the insulation is that thin, right?

>>16440456
>heat shield tiles but no flaps
explain

>>16440456
>no header tank

>>16440460
Can't be worse than the LEM closet

>>16440467
Artists have machine retardation.

>>16440301
the contrast between this and solar roadways is insane

>>16440472
oh boy, just you wait.

I have to come clean, Im a muskbot

>>16440468
i thought the header tanks were just for earth landings

>>16440484
they are for any landing where the bellyflip is done, so mars too. speakingof whitch, mars starships will need bigger header tanks.

>>16440476
>Okay so they have 10 thousand kilometers of road paved with solar tiles but it's BUSTED because it's 5 years late okay???
imagine lmao

>>16440442
1.07 mm thickness is impressive for a 5.4 meter diameter stage. Mogs starship hard.

>>16440496
Thin is easy when you're not planning on bringing it back down a gravity well. If your stage stays in space then you can make them balloons. 1.07 mm is thinner than Atlas 1 I believe, but that's to be expected with developments in metallurgy and manufacturing.

Guys! Don't forget about me!

>>16440450

>>16440301
When every hardware portion of Artemis eventually gets replaced with Starship or a Starship derivative and the first fleet of cargo ships are on Mars, what will he resort to?

>>16440513
he will be dead by then

>>16440301

>>16440518
god those eyes are empty

why arent spacex building any starship infrastructure at the cape?

>>16440521
what do you think this big tower is

>>16440520
the eyes of a man who does chemistry without a fume hood

>>16440456
where do the nukes go
how will it defend itself against the aliens

>>16440523
they're gonna need another EA for that hecking flame trench chuddie
Enron M*sk won't be launching any steel dildos from the cape until the 2030s (they will be bankrupt by then)

>>16440523
nice olm fag, also nice highbay

why don't they build a tower over the grand canyon and use that as a flame trench

>>16440456
Why is the outer airlock at the nose where the header tank is.
Pretty good storage area though I would like some modernized looks to it like weve seen on Haven-1 and 2 recently. Whats with the gay netting/mesh just have solid floors.
Why do the crew sleep in more netting
Where is the massive fuck off front windshield
Where is the exercise machines
Overall no aesthetics when we live in the modern age. Fix this now, ship needs to look nice.

>Lockheed faking starlink interference data
Not something I expected today

>>16440536
Where does Lockheed even show up in the allegations? I don't see their name in the screencaps.

>>16440533
I cant think of a good reason why not?
We will make contact with the Havasupai Tribe, and offer them some shiny things and booze. Native people have TOTAL control over their land, they would sell out to SpaceX. Its cheaper than buying a presidential election.

>>16440536
Source?

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1847740552382730627
>BREAKING: MEGA MILITARY CONTRACTOR CAUGHT FAKING SATELLITE DATA TO TAKE DOWN STARLINK
>SpaceX just exposed a dirty ploy by Lockheed Martin and Omnispace to block Starlink’s direct-to-cell service. Lockheed’s partner allegedly rigged their aging satellite to fake interference and filed bogus FCC complaints, trying to stop Starlink from dominating the 5G space.
>In a bombshell FCC filing, SpaceX revealed how Omnispace manipulated its MEO satellite to “intentionally detect” Starlink signals—despite the satellite barely being operational. SpaceX slammed the claims as “bizarre,” accusing Omnispace of creating “artificial conditions” to fake interference.
>The plot thickens: Omnispace refused standard coordination talks and went as far as licensing through Papua New Guinea to dodge regulations. It’s all part of an effort to sabotage Starlink’s $34.9 billion future in global communications.
>Will the FCC see through this sham, or will Lockheed’s shady tactics derail Starlink’s revolution?

>>16440539
Lockheed is directly involved in Omnispace's 5G initiatives.
They are being blamed by proxy essentially

>If a (star)ship did hit a whale, that whale had it coming

>>16440518
He’s not idiot. He had to understand the implications of this booster catch on the on target splash down of starship. He has literally no other argument to make once orbital refueling is demonstrated.

>>16440456
I thought fuel was supposed to be stored in the nose? Why is the airlock there?

>>16440508
KEK

>>16440570
That's some retards drawing, eg. heat shield but no flaps.

How long has this been true, and why did nobody tell me?
Whoopie pies in the Mars colony cafeteria confirmed

>>16440600
Fake bait to make the anti-dutch autist angry

>>16440602
That claim on wikipedia dates back at least two years, I didn't check older. It's not vandalism, or if it is, it has lasted a long time.

>>16440602
Also, Pennsylvania Dutch are from Germany (Palatinate), not the Netherlands.

IM AUTISTIC

>>16440104
He learned enough of rocketry to know that orbital depots made SLS utterly useless. He killed them to preserve orangerocketbad and its artisanally crushed expendable Alabama river rock roads.

>>16440632
JOIN THE CLUB

>>16440637
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>16440553
lmao lockmart get fucked

>>16440627
I've seen this movie.

>>16440553
Actual treason. Those who did this should be shot.

>>16440456
I always laugh when the 100 IQ sci-fi slop artists put shit like a nice little rec room break table for eating when nothing remotely like that is necessary on genuine zero-G habitats like Apollo, Mir, the Space Shuttle, the ISS, etc.

At least there's no zero-G violinist this time.

>>16440656
Can I brap in your pod?

>>16440667
Almost everything you mentioned had a dinner table

>>16440670
I didn't know they allowed nu metal band bassists in space

>>16440568
Thunderfood is pure dunning kruger, if you punish yourself and watch his reaction videos you will see him having no idea what is going on and talking out of his ass constantly.

>>16440670
>not one floating sphere of tang

post links to kino starship flight 5 music videos

>>16440675
I have one but I wont show it to you

>>16440677
nooo please show us *pouts and bats eyelids*

>>16440677
unintelligent amphibian enthusiast

>>16440675
Pre-flight 5 hype, but still great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSgyGH07BrY

>>16440682
i want something like this for us quirky zoomers nyaa~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI6WDNKm2QU

Manned starships will never happen

>>16440301
Musk btfo how will he ever recover?!?!

>>16440687
the trvthnvke that made /sfg/ space cadets seethe

>>16440687
Why not

>>16440568
>He has literally no other argument to make once orbital refueling is demonstrated.

He'll just everyone knew how to do orbital refueling. His last argument will be yes it increases tonnage to LEO, the moon, and mars but it doesn't save money.

Geo sat went byebye, intelsat 33e blew up.

>>16440679
Ive got some of my own images now too, fag

>>16440700
yikes https://x.com/S4S_SDA/status/1847819183272472884

>>16440703
FUCKING NIGGER AHHHHHH
Im not fixing these anymore fuck it they look fine in my album

>>16440703
stupid frog poster

>>16440700
Concerning

>>16440721
Dikenbaus

>>16440703
>>16440711
KEK
common frog L

https://youtu.be/QOVpKaCHWyo

KINO

>>16440456
Putting the sleeping quarters, medical, and gym directly above the fuel tank is literally retarded. Whoever designed this is a fucking idiot.

>>16440734
Buy an ad poojeet
>>16440736
What the fuck is /intp/. Also that flerfer firmament shit should not be at the bottom

>>16440132
looks like a zach hadel homunculus

>>16440739
That chinlet is your glorious leader

>>16440695
No abort system + belly flop + heat shield like shuttle = death

>>16440518
Who is that woman?

>>16440748
Planes also don't have an abort mode, because they don't regularly fail. Keep in mind these things will be returning from hundreds of starlink launches. Every flight, every unmanned failure a lesson, every ship recovered and examined. Our only example so far is the Falcon 9 booster, and it technically met NASA specs for being crew rated because they've been able to iterate post-flight.

OneWeb Launch 20 Mission - Landing Zone 4
T-40 minutes
>SpaceX is targeting Saturday, October 19 at 10:13 p.m. PT for Falcon 9’s launch of the OneWeb Launch 20 mission to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4 East (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. If needed, there is a backup opportunity available on Sunday, October 20 at 10:08 p.m. PT.
>A live webcast of this mission will begin about five minutes prior to liftoff, which you can watch here and on X @SpaceX. You can also watch the webcast on the new X TV app.
>This is the seventh flight of the first stage booster supporting this mission, which previously launched USSF-62 and five Starlink missions. Following stage separation, the first stage will land on Landing Zone 4 (LZ-4) at Vandenberg Space Force Base.
Spaceflight Now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdmvurETHjE
thelaunchpad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqXL5pIcBdA

>>16440104
They fucked his wife

>>16440700

>>16440535
HLS is supposed to nose dock with Orion (Artemis 3) or Gateway (subsequent missions) to avoid RCS expenditures.

>>16440736
>2026 ISS depress
Patiently waiting

>>16440738
>What the fuck is /intp/
newfag

>>16440767
6th launch by spacex this week

>>16440779
T-4 min
Also uses a cut off second stage nozzle

nothing will happen

Liftoff

memeweb

>Boeing blew up a satellite in geo
God dammit, when are these fuck wits going to get banned from space?

he can't keep getting away with it.

I always think it's landing too fast.

>>16440785
landed; nominal orbit insertion; back in 45 minutes for SES-2 and deploy

Perfect night to watch the launch. Clear skies, I could see it from my house. Great fireworks at the top of the ascent, and the return burn was brighter than the moon for a few moments. Even saw a meteor flash by.
kino

>>16440781
Ugly pile of shit fairing lol did they demand someone else's logo be covered up? Why is it painted like that? They sure picked the super budget near-bankruptcy option, like that used car lot in the ghetto where they don't do a credit check

>>16440802
They don't want Arianespace to find out they've been launching with another provider.

>>16440802
Nobody actually watches the launches anymore, so they don't bother with making everything pretty.

>>16440809
>200k viewers

>>16440795
Same kek, they seem to have taken the LZ landings to the extreme of aggressiveness. Real hoverslam.

>>16440821
I had this thought watching flight 5 landing - the landing burn itself slows to a crawl much higher up compared to a F9 landing. There's probably a lot of safety margin that could be reduced for future superheavy landings

>>16440487
>Need bigger header tanks to land the same craft at 0.38x it's earth mass

????????????????

I thought they were done with launching Oneweb?

>>16440781
Is this the $3000 toyota corolla Falcon 9?

>>16440816
X viewer metric is a straight up scam you retarded nigger, well most are these days to pump advertiser bucks but X is particularly egregious.

>>16440834
>source: my ass

>time to deploy
>feed cuts
every time, fix your shit elon

saw the OneWeb launch bros, it was real freakin neato

>>16440825
Based on the the apparent amount of fuel left over from the visible icing o super heavy they had a lot of margin it looked like.

>Elon Musk Might Have Broken the Law Against Bribing Voters
Say it with me: Felon Husk
Mars will be a prison colony

>deployment anomaly
oh nononononono

deployed 14 of 20

>>16440854
deployed 16 of 20; four more to deploy

>>16440855
all done

>>16440855
all 20 deployed; 99th launch this year, 394th overall

>>16440825
>>16440848
It started lower and the initial slow down was intense but took their sweet time with the catch afterwards.
Paradoxally, more propellant is less delta-v if they're only tapping from the landing tank.
If there was as much extra propellant in it as the chopstick sag and ice buildup suggest then at least the outer engines would've had to be feeding from the main LOX tank. It would be hundreds of tons overweight and the landing tank alone wouldn't support that maneuver.
In that case they would've used the margins afforded by the slower than orbital insertion and lack of a payload and retained propellant in the main LOX tank way past what boostback required, to have some on hand for landing. On top of that there would have to be far more oxygen than needed for the velocity change to prevent sloshing from starving engines during the landing.
V2 boosters built to spec as opposed to being retrofits would have landing tanks of the correct size for their dry mass. And future catches will be both shorter and more intense, and touch down with empty main LOX tanks.

>>16440851
Shidding and farding also article where

>>16440667
>little rec room break table
Every single space station has had this lmfao you projecting midwit

>>16440859
It's one of the new EDS talking points that came up after ULA got btfo in the latest round of NSSL contracts.
https://archive.is/E5TTP

>>16440851
>SEC, three letter acronym, middle word is Elon's
>FEC
Formerly Chuck's

>>16440864
Submarines have them too, which is one of the best analogues for long duration space flight aside from the ISS.

>Ughhhh I am so fucking ready for hot Martian babes

>>16440864
For me, it's the skylab table. Skylab in general is not talked about enough.

>>16440873
more like redditlab

>>16440105
no way, naming a depot after Shelby is both funny and important

>>16440858
the booster doesn't have a dedicated landing tank like the ship does, reentry generates enough Gs to push all propellant to the bottom of the tanks

>>16440841
>scroll past post
>+1 view count

Great website

>>16440877
>wave function collapse
>+1 view
Absolute precision, I've come to expect no less from his companies.

>>16440876
nvm im tarded, it's just not at the top of the booster like on the ship

>>16440851
I thought his $47 dollar promotions sounded like those scam accounts lol

>>16440301
That "Delivered" photo looks great. He probably couldn't find a less flattering image one of mankind's greatest achievements.

>>16440877
Shut the fuck up before I slightly push you in Enceladean gravity

Do you think that the Bloomberg article was useful at all or just milquetoast whining? The last sentence of the article makes it seem like he wants to reorient blame away from NASA, the contractors, and past Presidents and instead lay the Senate Launch System at the feet of whoever the next president is. Likewise, him pushing robots was retarded. It doesn't align with SpaceX's goals.

>>16440670
I'm kind of surprised they don't repackage the canned meat into plastic pouches to reduce mass.

>>16440851
Can he actually do this, to me it sounds like he's buying votes with extra steps.

>>16440886
No, I think it was genuine interest and concern for the better of the space industry. Applying any pressure to pay more attention to the space industry is a good thing anyways, and with how wide reaching his reach is with the more liberal side of the aisle, I think that its good he planted this seed of Artemis bad in them. I still believe he used an EXAMPLE when he said robots and cargo because OBVIOUSLY those are just meant to scout the area to prep for human landing and that sending humans to do science missions on the moon is pointless at this stage. He wasnt ‘pushing’ robots either like he was pushing for rethinking Artemis, it was an offhanded mention. Not everything needs to perfectly line up with SpaceX’s exact goals either, even him advocating for SpaceX is a huge deal, and even pushing for more attention on Artemis is also big. In general, the space industry just needs more attention, for the over regulation, the inattentiveness towards oldspace, and the open political hostilities. What Bloomberg did with his article was good and you are nitpicking very very minor points that could just be you mistaking what he said or of little importance due to your preconceived biases towards left leaning sources.

>>16440876
>>16440880
It was never about Gs. The propellant for needed for the landing burn against an empty booster amounts to a piss puddle at the bottom of the tanks that will go flying when the booster starts maneuvering. Some engines wouldn't even have LOX while it's settled askew during the glide. Either they keep a narrow landing tank or retain far more LOX than needed (like this time).

>>16440884
>Enceladean

>>16440772
Boeing was also the bus manufacturer for those four O3b mPOWER satellites that died

Curiously not listed as examples of the 702 bus on Wikipedia by the way

>>16440700
>>16440719
>>16440897
>>16440704
>Intelsat announced that due to a malfunction in the LEROS-1c primary thruster, it would require more time for orbit rising
>insurance officials estimated that the main propulsion failure would not reduce the on orbit life of the spacecraft more than 18 months
>In August 2017, another propulsion issue appeared
>this issue reduced the orbital life-time by about 3.5 years
Looks like it didn't even reach its predicted 10 year lifespan.

>>16440772
Satellites don't just explode. Yes, they use hypergolics, and these ones were leaking, but for a proper explosion that implies the tanks had to actually detonate. An explosion in the line wouldn't do shit.

>Tomorrow, I will tell the story of how SpaceX was forced by the government to kidnap seals, put earphones on them and play sonic boom sounds to see if they seemed upset

>>16440275
I'm pretty sure that's a Danny McBride character

>>16440353
that's why he wants to ban guns, so nobody gets any bright ideas and takes justice into their own hands

>>16440426
he's the king of the crab bucket, he can't let anybody escape
>>16440428
his soul is weighed down by gravity

Wen ift6?

>>16440918
two weeks (months)

>>16440919
Beat me to it

What should we discuss? Im bored, and if nobody brings up a good topic Im going to start with the Drumpf post election SpaceX predictions again.

>>16440444
sorry but russia isn't le based trad country anon, it's an unstable shithole that's already had an attempted coup a short while ago.

>>16440553
they're getting really really scared right now.
i can bet you if you could teleport to any of these oldcomms people right now they'd be biting their nails, they're all shitting themselves.

>>16440918
Next month

>>16440600
i knew he was my kin.
mars will be dutch.

>>16440690
it's spelled truthnuke

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1847808836234797418

>>16440667
>At least there's no zero-G violinist this time.
indeed
what a ridiculous concept

>>16440907
unless you have some deep insider knowledge or a higher quality version of this image I don't want to hear about it, anon

oh, he's quoting an Elon Musk quote
nice

>>16440721
>Now draw ein schwanz on die diagram!
>HÖHÖHÖHÖHÖHÖHÖHÖHÖ

/sfg/ died 40 minutes ago.

>3 /sfg/ threads going at the same time
>no-one really seems to be discussing anything interesting
I'm just gonna come back later when you guys have decided which is the real thread.

>>16440983
I'm pretty sure it's this one
Elon announcing that he's going to give us a higher resolution and/or more photos from the seal with headphones incident is kind of news

>>16440907
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1847909500839194999

>>16440983
are you retarded?

>>16440987
>government requiring SpaceX to asses whether their rockets could potentially hit sharks and whales
Give me a fucking break, what's next? an environmental review to see if Starship could harm algae and plankton? Meanwhile ULA's rockets can kill as many fish and dolphins as they want, and no one bats an eye aghhh

>>16440725
Manned ionosphere D layer aerosat station

>>16440987
Big if true.

>>16440873
wtf Pete Conrad apparently controlled some of the DC-X flights lol this man’s lore never ends

>>16440887
Best case numbers that would save about $600 per can. Imagine an "aerospace grade" food container transfer process would cost them about ten times that. You gotta remember we're dealing with NASA kek

>>16441008
they should catch some whales and sharks and then drop hot stage ring on them to see the effects

>>16440950
>>16440987
That pic could finally go mainstream tomorrow, and be noticed by normies and the media after so many years, historic moment. I can already picture it: Elon Musk, the seal torturer lmao

>>16441030
government mandated seal torture, literally

>>16440983
sorry your failstage didn't work anon, just pick the right time to stage next time.

>>16440442
imagine using fatter one as kickstage for some deep space probe and fitting them into starship. Full reusability and price of starship with performance and 'high energy' ula autism. You could send a probe to anywhere in solar system.

That made me realize, only thing spacex may be missing in the future are high performance vacuum kickstages. Their current infrastructure vision literally ends in LEO.

>>16440826
thinner atmosphere will reduce the drag from bellyflop, so probably more propellant needed to compensate

You WILL hear sonic booms and you will be happy

>>16440943
that's fucking hilarious

>>16440943
>Elon finds out why EIA's are thousands of pages long
Elon now knows why I hate the great crested newt

SLS has taken longer and cost the same as the Saturn V so far, with 1 test flight only, whilst also being severely underpowered and will cost multiple times per launch comparatively (at BEST)
Orion has cost as much as the CSM at this point, taken double the development time, managed 1 test flight so far, is fat as fuck, and is still debatable whether the heat shield will kill the astronauts on reentry

>>16441094
Contact your local representative instead of whining on the internet.

>>16441095
ESA is unavailable for comment

>>16441063
>>16440987
I will NEVER forgive the government for forcing Elon Musk to torture seals. I love seals, this was pure evil.

>>16441108
oh get over yourself tranny.

>>16441121
FUCK YOU SEALS ARE PURE

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/nhtsa-opens-probe-into-24-mln-tesla-vehicles-over-full-self-driving-collisions-2024-10-18/
Just yesterday I was telling you that Tesla has outlived its usefulness and Elon should cut it loose. All it represents now is more attack surface for radicalized redditor government regulators to use against Elon.

>>16441131
you're retarded

>>16441131
>NHTSA opens inquiry after 4 reports of crashes where FSD used
How many people were killed by human drivers in the same period?

>>16440301
>>16440386
Him, CSS, and ESG Hound are what I call "Defamation Grifters"

>>16441138

>>16441136
3700 people die each day in car crash

>>16441149
Thats worldwide death stats for car accidents.
For US alone, the stats is ~120 dead from car crash each day.
For US alone, everyday, there are ~17,000 car accidents EACH DAY.

>>16441143
You forgot to mention the blowjob robots and monkey butlers

>>16441152
watching hls crash ould be HILARIOUS knowing there are 10 monkey butlers onboard screaming

>>16441152
>monkeys in space
Probably anything evolved for locomotion in three dimensions would be able to adapt pretty well. It makes me wonder, is there any animal that would do better in 0g? Maybe a bug or some sort of disgusting sea creature? Octopi feel like they're halfway there already

>>16441165
slime girls

>>16441139
Good name for it.

I'm a simple guy, my dream was to be the Apollo-era footpic specialist for female astronauts who have gone to the moon and back. Why was that denied to me?

>>16441165
>>16441168
Imagine jellyfish/slime girl that can act as sex partner, waste disposal, body cleaner (vore), etc all in one bio-mechanically controlled via AI nano bots

>>16440918
>ift

>>16441180
that's what makes them so cool anon, all the interesting biomechanical functions of a single-celled organism, but very big and in a sexy boobed package.

https://youtu.be/RMqMVgRbtqI

Obligatory Mars Guy Sunday post

>>16440764
Planes do have an "abort mode". During engine failure (almost all) planes become gliders.

new sloss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNGHmrscc2U

>>16441220
that's not an abort mode.

>>16441220
Starship terminal velocity is only 300mph. Perfectly survivable (unless you're a bitch)

society owes me a slimegirl

>>16441151
Why are Americans so bad at driving?

>>16441254
they get license from cereal box at 16

>>16441253
slimegirls will be ideal girlfriends in a zero-g environment

>>16441254
Everyone got normalized to the idea of piloting 2 tons of steel down the road at 70mph+ from the age of 16 on. Robovan/taxi can't come soon enough, I want all of (you) to stop driving so my roads get safer to ride.

>>16441257
that doesn't have anything to do with the zero g environment though

>>16441254
Driving here is hellish. Imagine driving down the highway at 70mph and you see a car up ahead inching forward, about to cross the highway. As you get closer you realize your continued existence is based on the impulse control of a fat black woman in an infinity qx60. Everyone is on their phone or drunk. That's the experience of every American. Twice a day at least, every day, you're trusting 70 IQ niggers operating heavy machinery. It's a miracle there aren't more car crashes. It's a miracle there isn't more mental illness. When I die, my heaven will be torturing the people that caused this state of affairs in hell

>>16441254
Mars is the best place for driving because there's no car crash there.

>>16441264
driving on weenus would be paradise because every car would be so slow.

>>16441264
0.38g dune buggies

>>16441215
this guy has EDS. Why?

>>16441264
Actually high speed rail makes the most sense because you can go in a straight line from anywhere to anywhere

the only people driving on Mars will be geologists and they'll all be fucking drunk

>>16441273
No way, what has he said? Why does every eceleb, including space ones, have EDS? Is it because they're closer to artists than engineers or something?

>>16441277
NTA but I think a lot of them dont appreciate how humans on Mars would ruin sterile environments for all time, since people are gigantic habitats for micro organisms and cant be sterilized

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1847716589942296766

>>16441278
Kek I was guessing this would be the new angle. At first it was "well Mars is never happening anyway", but then when it seems like SX might actually get there soon, they switch to "we can't pollute Mars with stuff before we're sure that there's no life there, fifty more years of rover missions"

why's it so dead lately?

>>16441303
Sunday is always dead

>>16441304
this
remember last Sunday?

>>16441306
Kek fuck off

>>16441266

>Already 1 week from Flight 5
>Still no Flight 6
it's over

>>16441309
Imagine 3 per day

>>16441313
we will get even more bored of them than falcon 9 and that's a good thing.

>>16441309
STARSHIP DEBOONKED

>>16441309
Structural analysis for improvements

>>16441308
>watch out girls!

>>16441309
~seven months between flight 1 and 2, four months between 2 and 3, three months between flights 3 and 4, and then four months again between 4 and 5, despite red tape and actually ending in a booster catch. Insane compared to oldspace

>>16441309
They're just trying to figure out what they're even wanting to try, since they already succeeded with everything

Repent sinners

>>16441335
one orbit

>>16441327
Since flight 6's license is already approved, SpaceX should be able to schedule it for whenever they think they're ready to send another full stack.
I must begrudgingly acknowledge mayor Pete for reaming out the FAA on Elon's behalf, he may be a dirty (d) poofter but he got the job done.

>>16441335
they need the deorbit burn and new flap test, it's the last major things before attempting the first starlink payloads

>>16441338
I worship him completely unironically.

>>16441030
It's already in the replies.

animal torture is based. the government did nothing wrong.

>>16441339
Inflight relight of the raptors is the next step.
An flight with an orbit that would see re-entry off the California coast with an option to perform a relight that would see it land off of Hawaii is where I'm putting my money.
No point in doing pez dispenser tests and it allows for more one catch test before OLM2 is complete.
They need to get that pad ready, fulfil the Artemis milestones and then get the KSC OLM finished while they rebuild OLM1

>>16441354
officially, for Artemis it's propellant transfer after being able to safely make orbit

When will starship fly again. After IFT4 Musk was confident it would take one month. He hasnt even given a timeline this time. Something is wrong!!!

>>16441374
they are still figuring out what they want to do
perhaps they skip the last Block 1 starship alltogether

>>16441378
>perhaps they skip the last Block 1 starship alltogether
I hope so.
Put it in a museum or something, no use flying it when they know there will be hinge burnthrough.

>>16441254
Nonwhites

>>16441363
The key bit is to safely make it to orbit, not sure that SpaceX for that matter, want to put one in orbit without being sure they'll be able to start re-entry.
>>16441383
>>16441378
Sacrifice the last Block 1 for a critical in orbit tests maybe the first one to survive re-entry without issue and be caught/ land can be put in a museum.

>>16441378
Please no. If they skip to v2 before the catch attempt, we probably won't have a starship with crispy flaps to put on display.

>>16441399
catch attempt is a bit unsafe if you dont know what kind of damage the ship will arrive with. burnthrough could destroy a flap on the next one for all we know. they wont be allowed to catch until they demonstrate no damage on reentry

>>16441402
The feds aren't in any position to disallow anything and if enough of a flap disappears, it loses the lift and control authority to make it to the launch site.
This is the mechanism by which S29 missed its splashdown target and that falcon a few years ago ditched in the water instead of blowing up LZ-1.
If physics forbids a crippled rocket from reaching the landing zones then they're inherently safe.

>>16441309
spacex bros... we got too cocky...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIZmyegCrNg

Elon posted the seal headphones. Prepare for tourists.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1848055198494728496

>>16441414
twice? i thought only once, that's new to me.

>>16441407
>if enough of a flap disappears, it loses the lift and control authority to make it to the launch site
so it crashes somehwere in mexico or the united states. thats why they wont be allowed to.

hi guys, /pol/anon here, does musk really mean what he says when he supports trump? do you think he is redpilled?

>>16440764
>Planes also don't have an abort mode, because they don't regularly fail.
Not taking sides in your starship argument, but bolting a parachute onto your plane for spin recovery is a thing in general aviation.

>>16441414
>/sfg/ talking points leaking into the greater normiesphere
/sfg/ is the most powerful general on this site.
>>16441425
Musk benefits if Trump defangs the FAA from regulating space traffic, even if everything else was a lie that much alone is worth it.

>>16441425
musk is a perma-online autist at heart

Why is artemis so funny? when i look at it i LAUGH. iT'S LIKE THE SPACEBALLS VERSION OF APOLLO.

>>16441425
it's a strategic position, all he cares about is getting the death cult off his back so he can continue his vision for mars.

>>16440851
>Mars will be a prison colony
For you

>>16441425
"clean it up, wagies"

>>16441254
Most people drive better than average
>hurr durr how can that be
Driving ability doesn't fit a normal distribution. Drunk and senile people are a small portion of the population but cause most of the wrecks. "Americans are bad at driving" because we are by in generally unwilling to strip these few problem drivers of their licenses. Why? Because that would be "mean"...

>>16441459
Every MAGA meal comes with a Starship figurine.