/sci/ - Science & Math

everyone in the industry is watching this launch and are either terrified or thrilled

in 6 hours the largest rocket ever build will be launching your mother into space

We are going
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1RDGlyognOgJL

b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-based

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1845341767207457189

>>16424250
>filing a lawsuit over a clickbait headline

Only 6 hours to go!
I'm bored as hell

>>16424256
they said it explicitly and extensively in their actual statements, citing Musks X posts directly and supporting Trump

>>16424256
they'll bend the knee like the FAA did

>>16424264
you realize the first amendment applies to the FEDERAL government, not the states? it was literally liberal subversion that lead to any constitutionality being forced on the states. Musk is part of the disease.

>>16424256
You're a nothing faggot and will die alone

>>16424268
>you do realize words words
i don't
they'll bend the knee and you'll mald about it like with the FAA

>>16424268
>it was literally liberal subversion that lead to any constitutionality being forced on the states.
if you mean the 14th amendment

>>16424273
It must be repealed

Ah the trannies are flocking here to seethe on this glorious day I see. Sad!

>>16424273
>Many of the provisions of the First Amendment were applied to the States in the 1930s and 1940s, but most of the procedural protections provided to criminal defendants were not enforced against the States until the Warren Court of the 1960s, famous for its concern for the rights of those accused of crimes, brought state standards in line with federal requirements.
"Muh constitution" is literally a hippie alternate history invention of the 1960's and the people who cry about their rights are degenerate scum

>>16424250
They sued the CCC not headline dumbass

What a fucking loser holy shit lol

>>16424250
So…what caused Musk’s break with the liberals that put him into such a combative relationship with them? I get that he’s hooking up with conservatives but that appears to be the result not the cause. Did it become popular among democrats to hate him because of the grifting? Did too many big liberals got burned on Tesla or something?

>>16424290
Big kikes are underwater bigly on tesla shorts+musk not complying with covid clampdowns

>>16424273
What part of "CONGRESS shall pass no law" is ambiguous to you liberal shitfucks

>>16424276
Imagine being the kind of faggot who thinks rights shouldn't exist.

>>16424293
CONGRESS shall make no law

The states are not "congress". It is in the interest of state governments to regulate speech. A strict constitutionalist should protect the states rights to ban pornography and hate speech. It's actually YOU who is trying to take away my constitutional rights.

>>16424268
This involves Vandenberg SFB, a FEDERAL facility, RETARD.

And another thing. Yes Musk is a grifter, the archetypical American tech oligarch who runs off of hype. But the fact is, SpaceX is the most successful space company in the world. Tesla and ECs are flopping is really bad news for a certain sector, and sure Elon has frequently run hype scams that go nowhere. But the FACT is SpaceX has a working orbital shuttle, and Boeing does NOT. Starship will fail, but it won’t sink SpaceX, they’ll just go the Falcon 9 route and make it into a semi-reusable heavy lifter — so the promise of super cheap lift won’t happen, but it’ll still be cheaper than everyone else (until China catches up and/or Roscosmos succeeds in their ongoing programs). Right now SpaceX offers the only WORKING American crew shuttle to the ISS — and if it wasn’t there everyone would be forced to go to Russia for that.

The wider issue isn’t SpaceX, it’s Boeing and other traditional American companies somehow failing to to BASIC shit. There’s literally no excuse why Boeing in 2024 can’t make a reliable crew shuttle when some ancient Soviet-era jalopy is still flying. American tech in general is in collapse and I wonder why.

>>16424295
First, The Constitutional Rights in the Bill of Rights are shit the Government can't do.

Second: The Constitution directly and explicitly states the subservience and harmony that the States must follow to the United States Constitution and requires ratification for admission into the Union. Freedom of the Press doesn't mean "freedom to journalists," it means the freedom of the printing press. It is what says you can print whatever shit you want and it doesn't matter how much the Government doesn't like it, it's your God given right.

>DUDE strict constructionism
>okay, 14th amendment
>NO NOT LIKE THAT
kek

What a lonely faggot lmfao

>>16424290
Pelosi and Bernie started attacking Musk because he is a billionaire, Musk criticized covid lockdowns and the fact that Teslas Fremont factory was one of the few car factories still under lockdown when others were opened so Musk did a stunt (arrest me if you want, I'm going to open it)
this prompted pic related
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1259638112688304129

After that there started to be some animosity towards Musk from the democrats (though there has been an undercurrent due to the billionaire thing for ever I guess from a certain group within the Deomcrats, which I guess have gotten more extreme and influential in the last few years)

Then in 2021 you had Tesla and Musk get snubbed and not invited to a white house EV summit due to Tesla not being a union shop, but also perhaps because Tesla was starting to disrupt these automakers which presents a bigger risk to them (so a combination of not being union + threatening auto companies with unions)

At this point Musk was already getting a lot of shit, but where it started to actually get really bad was when he bought Twitter, removed the censorship and published info about government collusion and censorship
after that it has been basically non-stop attacks for almost two years, constant lawfare from the Biden admin with different government organizations going after Musk and his companies in every possible way they can think of

why are people hyped for this starship launch? i thought the full rocket system has already been launched multiple times

>>16424309
Tower catch

It's over

https://x.com/spacex/status/1845348539658010685?s=46&t=YSJkxH05ksEoz8WJ5wpbow

>>16424307
Elon also said he wouldn't have vaxxed if he had the information available that twitter was blocking in their misinformation campaign. Then of course the tranny kid stuff lol

>>16424313
>SCRUBBED
SCRUBBED
>SCRUBBED
SCRUBBED

>>16424313
first falcon heavy now crew 8? all we got is starship and the dildo left....

>>16424314
yeah, democrats themselves have been doing insane policies which is probably a big part too but I have the feeling that Musk would have largely ignored those if the democrats didn't actively try to go after him
he became aware of issues as a result of democrat fuckery, at least to some extent, I guess it might be impossible to say how much what occurred is directly the result of the lawfare and how much is just the retarded democrat policies themselves (like censorship)

>>16424302
It's says "congress shall pass no law". It protects you from the congress passing such laws. That's it.

Not surprising his brain is broken then.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1845353038459891835

>>16424321
The Supreme Court rather prominently disagrees. Your constitutional rights are not abridged by the broadened interpretation, just your interest in controlling others.

>>16424326
The supreme court is full of queers my dude

>>16424327
Let's go ahead and take that at face value. And?

>>16424329
we just have to stack the supreme court full of people who respect the constitution, especially the 14th amendment which says we can deprive you of life, liberty and property if due process is respected. I believe in using due process to prosecute thought crimes which are illegal under state governments who are not bound by the first amendment, and I want to see the supreme court stacked with people who agree with this constitutionalist interpretation.

Quick 3hr Power Nap and then launch thread is going up lads

>this whole thread

>>16424321
>Gitlow v. New York
>Grosjean v. American Press Co
>Cantwell v. Connecticut
>>16424330
The constitution of California also protects free speech.

>>16424333
Blame the stupid faggot who took the retarded bait

>>16424335
>>Gitlow v. New York
>>Grosjean v. American Press Co
>>Cantwell v. Connecticut

1925
1936
1940

These are "precedents" set a century later by subversive liberal scum and they can and should be overturned

>>16424337
But they aren't overturned. Your offtopic shitposting and worthless opinions are irrelevant to the merits of Elon's case.

>>16424330
Fuck off, Commie scum.

>>16424339
Just admit your "rights" are held together with hot glue and toothpicks and the constitution has very little to do with it

>>16424340
Fuck off lib shit!!!

I should really jack off and shower before the flight so that I'm not sweaty and horny during it.

>>16424342
Just admit you're anti spaceflight and will never be a woman.

>check my YouTube home page
>literally the first suggested video is a scam starship stream

>>16424344
its available in iran. not legal, but available.

>>16424344
shower and then have a nice clean wank during the flight.
wanking when you're nice and clean is always much more pleasurable than when you're a salty, sticky mess.

>>16424352
SpaceX fault that they decided not to stream on youtube anymore, now it's all free estate for scammers.

bump

>>16424370
The most annoying part to me is that it makes it a lot more trouble to watch streams on my living room tv. Have to use finnicky screen mirroring from my phone rather than just opening youtube on my roku, and then I can't use my phone while watching.

also cock launches today

>>16424370
Tesla justs did a youtube stream for the 10/10 event. Wonder what's up with spacex

3 launches today?

>>16424456
Au contraire...

>>16424456
Europa Clipper got delayed by one day

A lot of science news is fake, like when they discover that an exoplanet orbits a far away star, or that they are studying Christopher Columbus's DNA. And /sfg/ is at the forefront of this, using outdated rocket tech to venture into space

>>16424469
Show us your teleporter

Oh we have 2 active threads for no reason. Great

In a few hours history will either be made or we're a laughing stock.

>>16424496
People have predetermined opinions that they'll use to color the outcome today however they see fit. It doesn't matter one bit.

>>16424307
Good summary. It should be noted as well that Musk veering closer to Trump is happening in large part because of this lawfare, people not interested in space things aren't aware of this at all. To them it just seems like Musk suddenly became a 'racist evil neonazi' out of nowhere. Musk being a poor communicator hurt him so badly on this front

2 of the funniest moments were when the media (obviously messaging on behalf of Biden admin) admonished SpaceX for "disabling Starlink over Ukraine", and the media focus in those stories were based around how Musk is helping the Russians, instead of the complicated situation relating to Starlink and the ongoing war. So SpaceX enables Starlink and inevitably the Russians start using it too... cue media stories about how Starlink is helping Russians. No win scenario for Musk there. Russian use of Starlink actually has been helping the Ukranians locate Russian military assets, but that's only known by people really interested in the war

Then when the Biden admin criticised Musk for not hiring enough immigrants.... and then later criticising them for hiring too many immigrants as it's a security risk because SpaceX works with the DoD.

If I was in Musk's shoes I would have partially lost my mind at this shit too. If there's an 8 year Kamala administration then they are going to make life hell for SpaceX

>>16424497
I'd like to agree but we've already witnessed the undue influence people with baseless claims had on the regulatory agencies involved.

>>16424370
My uncle watched one of those scam streams, the full thing, they are quite believable especially for boomers

Just need to avoid tower damage should something go wrong. Tower B probably not ready until January.

>must ran out of the control room during the first falcon 9 landing
>thought the F9 booster blew up after hearing the sonic boom

You can't go to Mars.

Domes will only be temporary.

>>16424509
boomers and ironic shitposting are a dangerous combo

>>16424225
knows where it isn't

>3 more hours

My body is ready.
It's going to abort catch attempt on the boostback though.

So what's the catch?

>>16424537
>kills tower A

A bit late to be writing this hitpiece isn't it?

>>16424225
fuck yeah, space launch time

>>16424535
it's a test flight anon
you know the plan

>>16424535
then what?

>>16424268
the first amendment has been incorporated against the states my dude by the fourteenth amendment

>went to bed early for once
>woke up with time to spare

>>16424547
that dude looks like this

>>16424566
digital phrenology was right again

Is thundercuck streaming today?

GAAN status?

>>16424570
https://www.youtube.com/@Thunderf00t/streams

maybe

>>16424566
>>16424547
>geoff bezos

helicopter just landed

>no reason
anti-anime faggots having a schizo break maybe? not enough spam to really be that but whatever
>>16424563
we gaan brother

there is a different sfg up fyi

>>16424593
>Refueling on the roadside
Looks like CG markings so this is weird

>>16424606
registration number says Onyx aviation

>>16424599
>IFT-5
>schizos decide it shouldn't be mentioned at all so they can have their gay sekrit club
>split the general
no thanks

They will film starship reentry, right?

>>16424613
Should be like last time unless the starlink sats fail us

>>16424611
keep up the good work

>>16424628
Shut up faggot you're the shittiest life there can be

>>16424610
Might be a film helicopter but a drone would work better I'd think

>>16424633
Drones don't fare that well against shockwaves.

>>16424611
presumably it's an anti-anime stance

what the fuck is with that shitty sigma edit voice. it's ai right?

>>16424657
are you watching a crypto scam on yt, anon

>>16424661
yeah i just realized a second after posting. god damn fuck youtube

>>16424663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIKI7y3DTXk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC87WmFN_As

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

>>16424641
idk man

>>16424678
They might want to film for more than 30 seconds, bro.

>>16424684
do rockets normally hang around for longer than 30 seconds bro?

>>16424684
Not for an aerial drone shot. Long shots are either best done with high altitude aircraft (WB-57) or ground based telescopes.

>>16424641
Neither does high density concrete. It's likely being used to scout the exclusion zone.

>>16424599
>redditors apply their retarded ass sekrit club rules to 4channel
many such cases

launch thread!
>>16424676
>>16424676
>>16424676

SOON

>>16424713
its simply about not getting split constantly for a week
also this thread was staged early + you are a faggot

>>16424290
Dems won't pay for Brilliant Pebbles.
>muh culture war issues
all a diversion.

>>16424797
yeah of course, brilliant pebbles doesn't distribute jobs to key congressional districts

>>16424824
Whatever the reason for it, Strategic Defense is an undeniably partisan issue. Some Republicans support it (and the rest are ambivalent) but almost all Democrats oppose it. Maybe this is because Democrats are all pinko commies who don't want America to get an edge over the competition, or maybe it's because they genuinely believe it will destabalize MAD, or maybe it's because Regan supported it so they must oppose it simply for that reason, or because it sounds expensive and doesn't give more money to muh progrums for inner city chillins, or maybe it's because they think it simply won't work, or..... There might be dozens or more reasons why Strategic Defense projects are divided down partisan lines but at the end of the day the simple fact is that division does exist.

So presuming that Elon really does believe in Strategic Defense, either as a genuinely good idea for American interests or as a fantastic money maker that will fund SpaceX missions to Mars, if he wants to fulfill BP contracts he needs a Republican in the White House.

This supposed to be hard?

bump

>16424954
>he's actually seething this hard
lol

>>16424963
you have the soul of a bureaucrat btw

>>16424954
bro we're not on /b/ you do NOT need to bump the thread every 10 minutes

NSF have mostly managed to deonions their stream (the guys in charge are much more bearable now that they're running around the country doing real work) EXCEPT for this guy

>>16424991
>girl's hair

>>16424991
I agree, its much less pungent with garlic & onions, since they went big budget.

reminder that this is the gay thread

>>16425003
he would be fine if he fucking lifted
>>16425008
nigger

REAL THREAD
>>16424995
>>16424995
>>16424995
>>16424995
REAL THREAD
>>16424995
>>16424995
>>16424995
>>16424995
REAL THREAD

>>16424991
idk man the voice over that's on right now sounds pretty gay (read: homosexual) to me

>>16425034
the two on the left are way better than they used to be now that Chris Bergin (jew in charge) has stepped back
the voice over was the guy in the previous picture

bump ;)

YWNBAPS
You Will Never Be A Proper Stage
:)

what else is getting launched today?

>>16425294
penis

SPACEX IS LIVE!!!!!

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1RDGlyognOgJL
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1RDGlyognOgJL
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1RDGlyognOgJL
live

Direct stream:
Hight latency:
https://prod-fastly-us-west-2.video.pscp.tv/Transcoding/v1/hls/z2jgSYG7VSPyw-8r-M82rFaCDSpEVD0QmYhnI4seZmbCjhSv5OD4QwWsiIB1-OS0WSgUrzm2DJPk5OZNNWifFw/transcode/us-west-2/periscope-replay-direct-prod-us-west-2-public/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCIsInZlcnNpb24iOiIyIn0.eyJFbmNvZGVyU2V0dGluZyI6ImVuY29kZXJfc2V0dGluZ180ODBwMzBfMTAiLCJIZWlnaHQiOjQ4MCwiS2JwcyI6MTIwMCwiV2lkdGgiOjg0OH0.0LJi1usWbiPqp0QIcpq7Md5g1WxvJcPqVWNqsKw5nhA/dynamic_highlatency.m3u8?type=live
Low latency:
https://prod-fastly-us-west-2.video.pscp.tv/Transcoding/v1/hls/z2jgSYG7VSPyw-8r-M82rFaCDSpEVD0QmYhnI4seZmbCjhSv5OD4QwWsiIB1-OS0WSgUrzm2DJPk5OZNNWifFw/transcode/us-west-2/periscope-replay-direct-prod-us-west-2-public/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCIsInZlcnNpb24iOiIyIn0.eyJFbmNvZGVyU2V0dGluZyI6ImVuY29kZXJfc2V0dGluZ180ODBwMzBfMTAiLCJIZWlnaHQiOjQ4MCwiS2JwcyI6MTIwMCwiV2lkdGgiOjg0OH0.0LJi1usWbiPqp0QIcpq7Md5g1WxvJcPqVWNqsKw5nhA/dynamic_lowlatency.m3u8?type=live

so what are failure condition for this flight?

asking so muskrats dont move the goalpost when the booster slams into the sea

>>16425632
The goalposts will be moved, whatever happens. Could head straight to Mars and land perfectly or explode on the launch pad

>>16425632
Rocket explodes without making it to the landing attempts on the ship and the booster.

>>16425632
ULA sniper boat

>>16425632
well they just caught the fucking booster

>>16426073
>>16425632
ok i take it back, it was a complete success. How will CSS and thunderfag spin this one lmao?

Where does he even go from here?

>>16425632
Be honest, how mad are you right now?

>>16426115
complaining about how one of the chines lost some skin during either boostback or the actual grab

>>16425632
seethe and shart FAGGOT

>Let's build a giant metal chopstick the size of a skyscraper to catch our fuckhuge booster
>It worked

can't get the replay working in mpv so all you get is a screen recorded video player

>>16424225
>best launch test yet
>use a troon fantasy image as the OP
I HATE TRANNYS SO MUCH ITS UNREAL

when it busted through the clouds/plume glowing red hot
when the engines burst to life
when it throttled down
when it approached the tower
when it settled gently into the landing clamps

sitting there, on fire, the most beautiful object I had ever seen, a gift from heaven

>>16426415
>Crying about SFG OC

>>16426415
Nigga you're posting in the wrong /sfg/

>>16424307
All of that plus he moved Tesla's headquarter from California to Texas, which many on the left saw as a betrayal of their values. Then he personally moved from California to Texas, which only further cemented their view of him an incel chud (no, I don't know how they can call the father of a dozen or so children an incel but somehow they do).

the WB-57 has left the building

>>16426463
Some day that will be part of the Martian National Anthem.

Did I just see fucking commercial flying planes from the Starship or was I dreaming?

>>16426741
probably

>>16424505
>If there's an 8 year Kamala administration then they are going to make life hell for SpaceX
Kamala isn't winning this election and the FAA is going to be purged top to bottom, lol. Even if she did win, the military will keep the cunt on a leash. They're not here for points-scoring.

>the face you make when you lose AGAIN

is this the thread? cool. what an amazing day

would an actually smart man fall victim to alcoholism?

>>16427402
hell yeah

How do you respond to this without sounding mad?

THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDAoJIJ2ljU

>>16427523
>As of Dec. 2020

>>16427523
nice for him to have artemis 3 there when artemis 2 god knows when is flying

>>16424420
Tesla is a public traded company that over ruled Elon's autism

>>16426870
Meanwhile at Blue Origin...

>>16426870
that deliberate wiggle before landing just so it doesn't kamikaze into the tower.....

We've come so far bros

Based Berger kek

>>16427618
tbd

>>16427618
It's over

Congratulations to the Giga-nerds at SpaceX. The United States now has a 100 ton reusable booster...genuine milestone. Great work.

>>16427513
when is this idiot gonna realize the management of TSLA and SpaceX are two diametrically opposite entities. Musk is good at thinking of grand visions and inspiring great people to join in his visions, but he is poor at leading. The moment he took active involvement in leading TSLA or Twitter, they turned into shit. SpaceX has very little in terms of Musk's leadership and that is why they are still going great

downloading shotcut as we speak, I hope you're ready for kino

>>16427618
NOOOO THE BIRDS ARE FLEEING
AND FRYING

>>16427714
those birds are miles away from the booster, they're in the deep foreground

>>16427618
>>16427714
if people need to be 10 miles away for safety
why are birds allowed to be right there
to deliberately kill them???

>>16427675
They still have to do all that shit just to get to the moon again?

>>16426870
Just snuggled right up there didn’t it.

IFT-6 in a month right?

>>16427787
did you miss the tower getting scorched? it's probably in need of major repairs and inspections.

>>16427794
fire not harm steel sirs

>>16427787
depends on if they don't want to bother with the same flight profile

>>16427787
two weeks

>>16427787
two weeks

Kek
the state of Blue Origin

/k/ reporting
Still confused as to how no other nation has stolen the designs for, and reproduced, reusable launch vehicles yet. I know reverse engineering is a fuckload more complicated than it sounds, but the Falcon 9 has been landing boosters for nine years now. You'd expect someone else would have figured it out, leaked something, etc.
Not even necessarily talking about the Russians or the Chinese, you'd think the Euros would have gotten close enough to SpaceX to be able to figure this shit out.

>>16427832
/k/ here, you should already understand that literally the rest of the world is either so fucking corrupt they can hardly breathe without a government handjob or dirt eating second/third worlders or both

these photos are ...sublime

Exciting catch. What happened to starship? I woke up late and don’t see anything on it.

>>16427832
>Euros
The ESA to this day thinks that re-usability is a fluke and still want to go expandable with Ariane 6, but they're also fucking retarded. Also even if SpaceX make it look easy, reusing a rocket is still as hard as it looks and I don't think you can just copy the design to succeed, iterative testing is the key there which public agencies can't afford (because they're fucking stupid)

>>16427832
It's not that hard. There's just not any business reason to do it unless you have enough payloads to launch to make recovering the booster a true cost saving.

>>16427854
You can't make this size of rogg reusable

You cannot just catch a rocket

>>16427862
>unless you have enough payloads to launch

Even now, half of SpaceXs launches are for themselves.

>>16427855
It landed in in the ocean and on target, then spacex blew it up to make it sink.

Now i understand why Falcon 9 need an entry burn

>>16427878
How was the reentry? Fin reposition work as intended?

Starship caught on fire on the way down and exploded into the ocean....Total success. Can't wait for all the Elon cultists to ride in the death rocket to Mars and never come back.
>BUT BUT WE CAUGHT THE BOOSTER!
So, who cares, literally means nothing and you know it. Always a stunt to jingle keys in front of the retarded toddlers and make them clap. Starship hasn't launched a single gram of cargo into orbit and the booster was on fire long after being caught for that matter. The engines were free burning. Stupid fuck Elon didn't even install fire suppression on the catch tower apparently. What a fucking genius.

HE SAID THE FIRST MARS MISSION WOULD BE HAPPENING IN 2023!! IT'S ALMOST 2025 AND STILL JACK SHIT!!

But hey, spend all your money on the Space X IPO next year where the real rich people pass their heavy bags of horse shit off to you faggots for top dollar.

>>16427895
>shaky cam CGI

>>16427832
designs are one thing but there's supply chains and quality control and skilled labor and stuff like that you can't just pull out of thin air because you know how to do it in theory

>>16427878
>then spacex blew it up to make it sink.
Cope
>No for real, it's easier for them to recover it off the bottom of the Indian Ocean then just letting it float on top, trust me bro...Elon is a genius, you just don't understand like he does.

Hey don't forget to sell your house and everything you own for the Space X IPO faggot. Elon needs your money.

>NASA Reposted
https://x.com/SenBillNelson/status/1845461454977196294

>>16427895
I can't get used to how these videos look like CGI the more the camera points up. The first couple of seconds look like pure CGI slop except for the side smoke and flames looking right.

>>16427922
When something is so other-worldly looking that it looks CGI, you know they're doing it right

The juxtaposition couldn't be anymore stark

>>16427568
Nah, they had to scrub today's launch because of a GPS issue

>>16427895
I'm not even parking my car this smooth

>>16427922
>I can't get used to how these videos look like CGI

It’s a perceptual error. Your mind fights with understanding things which seemingly defy physics and so dismisses it.

>>16427952
defy God*

I thought the flight was delayed by the FAA until November? Why so early?
I would've missed the livestream if it weren't for the sticky

>>16427922
>>16427952
This must have been how the people who saw a plane fly for the first time felt

>>16427939
>Blue Origin: the GPS don't work :(

>SpaceX: ACCURATE TO WITHIN MILLIMETERS

predict his cope

>>16427964
Scrutiny from congress, I think. Even the boomers are realizing that the FAA is out of line.

>>16427937
>>16427952
I think it comes down to other things that I associate with CGIslop, such as the shaky cam, the way the camera is quite close to the path of the subject without itself moving along (think of all the CGI slop where a non-moving camera is buzzed by a jet plane and shakes), but also the initial smooth gradient of the sky which looks CGI-like and even the puffs of white smoke/vapour above the machine.

>>16427964
My rrat: When Elon called Pete about the whole starlink issue in North Carolina, Pete went on to light a fire under the FAA's ass about the starship delays. The Biden-Harris admin might be in shambles, but Pete is still going to be an active politician so he needs to salvage what her can for himself

What we can expect from Flight 6 now that we and SpaceX knows the whole system/architecture works ? When we can expect the next flight?

STARSHIP SUGOI

Meet my new wallpaper

>>16427970
Maybe. Even primitive peoples would see a plane flying according to their understanding of physics. They might not understand what’s going on, but it’s not behaving any differently than a spear being thrown. The dumpster scene in Fall Guy had a lot of people saying it was CGI even though it was a practical effect. But, all the CGI in Maverick was accepted because it was real flight with real planes using CGI skins.

>>16427819
At least Blue Origin had the decency to be formally congratulatory. Unlike Boeing where the engineers actively wish for disasters at SpaceX because they suck and they know it.

>16427903
>16427918
mad status: U

>>16427832
Europeans don't take rocketry seriously enough to copy the lessons learned by SpaceX and apply them themselves. The Chinese and Russians have neither the intellectual nor industrial capacity at present. The Russians never will, the Chinese are getting there.

>>16424268
>Every citizen may freely speak, write, and publish his sentiments on all subjects, being responsible for the abuse of that right; and no law shall be passed to restrain or abridge the liberty of speech or of the press. In all criminal prosecutions on indictments for libels, the truth may be given in evidence to the jury; and if it shall appear to the jury that the matter charged as libellous is true, and was published with good motives and for justifiable ends, the party shall be acquitted; and the jury shall have the right to determine the law and the fact.
>Constitution of California, Sec. 9
Musk can be held liable for any expressly illegal speech, but the state government cannot pursue actions against him solely on the basis of disagreeing with his political opinions.

Close up of the minor damage of the booster

>>16427990
Oh yeah. So one of the tricks of filming areal battles is to use a telephoto lease at great distances. It allows the planes to fly at a safe distance in a dog fight but it flattens the depth perception making them look very close to each other. Same thing I think. Plus you get the shockwave from the sonic boom and noise cancelling mics so you don’t hear it.

>>16427939
I don't like BO, but at least they're trying to actually fix their problems rather than complaining that NASA doesn't want to send astronauts home aboard a dangerously badly-made rocket because of "PR" like Boeing was.

>>16427998

>>16427964
i also was taken by surprise. i didn't expect the FAA inquisition to end.

CAN YOU TAKE ME HIGHER
TO A PLACE WHERE BLIND MEN SEE
CAN YOU TAKE ME HIGHER
TO A PLACE WITH GOLDEN STREETS

>>16428021
maybe a pressure release inside the chime? no damage to the copv.

>He's just standing there... MENACINGLY!

Flight 4 vs Flight 5 reentry data. We can see at the end of the reentry the dynamics are different because of the much worse burn through of Flight 4

>>16428041
>A bunch of fat mexican welders built this
based

>>16428001
>Why do you have a metallic cigarette for a wallpaper anon? You're so weird!
How do you respond without sounding mad?

>>16428064
>Why do you have a metallic cigarette for a wallpaper anon? You're so weird!
>.... *silence for 5 seconds*
>get out of my house

>>16428028
It don't think anyone would say they aren't doing the right thing in regards to safety.
It's just that with BO being SpaceX's main technological competitor, it's just insane how far they are behind.

New Glenn is probably going to land before Starship ever gets resused the way it's intended but it's 2nd place ultimately.
It really do wish them well tho.

>>16424250
I don't care much for his politics but damn of this doesn't give me a raging boner. Fuck those chickenshit hippies, LA is doing way worse things to that coastline by routinely discharging untreated sewage into the ocean, and it barely registers for them.
>t. live in LA

>>16428064
My wallpaper is cyancapsule's big-titted demon milf, Bel. You must be looking at a different computer.

>>16428021
>>16428001
So were the Soviets actually on to something with the "dozens of smaller rockets instead of a few big rockets" approach for first-stage design when they originally made the N1?

>>16428064
>giving a shit about what foids think of your desktop background

>>16428045
this chart is backwards

>>16428064
Bold of you to assume a woman will ever see my PC screens

>>16428022
Yeah when it comes to rockets or planes if you want to make it look like real footage you have to "film it" from far away just like real footage. There were some shots in the movie Sully (2016) where the plane was about to ditch in the Hudson river and it look oddly real because the point of view was from far away.

>>16428001
Absolutely N O M I N A L

>>16428045
>time goes from right to left

>>16428064
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>>16428064
>I like vaping lol you ever vape?

>>16428103
If korolev lived they would've gotten it to work
there is such a thing as singular genius

61182461<<
dexif

>>16428064
I slap this bitch with the back of my hand

>>16427691
Musk literally came up with the chopstick idea

>>16428095
the pig is better
>>16428103
yeah but they couldn't actually make a good engine so it didn't work for them

>>16428144
excedent
i can read it now

Bros, why did we ever even have any doubt. Now that it's done, it seems so casual and easy compared to F9 suicide burn.

>>16428064
I know you're in your thirties, Beth, but can you please keep it to yourself? I'm trying to waste time at work over here

>>16428161
larger rockets are clearly so much easier to control than big rockets, much more tolerance on engine throttling/steering rather than min thrust being >1 t/w

Come in nice and slow, gentle touch down every time

>>16428001
Hard to believe the inside of the engine shrouds are at cryogenic temps.
90% of rocketry seems to be separating 2 extremes after another.

Full catch sequence

>>16428152
I think Gwynne let’s Elon run Starship as a side gig to keep him out of the main SpaceX business.

>>16428180
you have to be trolling

>>16428178
That break through the clouds is like a shot out of a Superman movie.

>>16428187
Passion project may be a better word than side gig. Like actors, 2 movies for the studio and one for yourself. I also seem to recall Garth Brooks only got one track on his albums for songs he wanted to play. But, Gwynne runs the rest of SpaceX and the Starship project has no bearing on that. I think Elon’s autism might drive SpaceX into the ground without that separation in business.

>>16428178
This is one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen

>>16428203
gb2r or wherever it is you came from

>>16428178
>the kinotography cloud that disguises the incoming booster and provides a good static reference for the sheer speed
>the glowing engine bay
>the selective engine startups and shutdowns to slow the damn thing down
>the slide into mechazilla with Gerst-confirmed pinpoint accuracy
Pure cinema

>>16428207
Think what you want. It’s just my assessment. Whenever Starship is involved Shotwell is nowhere to be seen. When the business of SpaceX is discussed, Elon defers to her. Phased management is a good thing. I don’t know that SpaceX would be where it is today with 90% of mass to orbit, sole manned launch provider for the US etc if Elon was running the day to day. Starship gives him an outlet to do great things without killing a business.

>>16428135
lmfao best reply

>>16428235
(you)

it's usually "elon's musk spacex"

>>16428220
SPEEEEN

>>16427787
depends what kind of modifications the FAA accepted for IFT-6 license
seems like no mishap should be necessary, though the booster did get slightly damaged >>16427672

but assuming no mishap, the profile of IFT-6 might still be restrictive (like IFT-5 was) for SpaceX not to want to launch it
so really I think it depends on the FAA again mostly

Next test is relight and pez dispenser?

>>16428252
Was that a fucking underwater shot?

>>16428235
take this IQ test
https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/FSIQ/

>>16428234
You need clouds or they look like models.
https://youtu.be/qiDqiuX9ET4?t=132

>>16428254
No

>>16428254
Yes, obviously.

>>16428252
this part was beautiful

>>16428258
I think it was engine-rich at the end there

>>16428251
FAA got buckbroken. Not sure the details but it's anyone's guess what happens next

>>16428248
>"elon's musk spacex"
Isn't that specifically used for FUD headlines?

Thread reuse from >>16424354

>>16428254
50/50

>>16428103
They would have been if not for what >>16428153 said. If your engines are likely to suffer catastrophic, mission-ending failures then using a bunch of them is absolutely the opposite of what you want to do because it introduces more single points of failure. Also the N1's engines couldn't even be test fired which made them even more unreliable.

>>16428258
no, you can see in the diagram when it falls down

>>16428220
>that little piece of spinning debris dancing above the fin
kino - though i'm curious that the rate of motion and spin seem to both increase as it floats along. radiation pressure/yarkovsky effect maybe?

>>16428266
Yeah they only put his name in the title for negative articles. They want you to associate his name with bad things

>>16427832
China has like 10 different startups trying to replicate booster reuse, some of them are pretty close at this point

>>16428269
Timing for the sunrise was absolutely perfect, anons were right.

>>16428278
pretty close meaning a few did booster hops to explosive results

>>16428277
Yeah, can't do that atm when SpaceX is taking the big w today.

>>16427854
what is this? aerodynamic heating?

Nice ad placement you stupid fucking retards. NSF is gay why even bother at this point

>>16428259
I scored 133 and I can deadlift just under 500 lbs, can I go to Mars?

>>16428285
i think it might be lava :o

>>16428283
yes, so maybe a year or two away still but getting there

>>16428285
hot exhaust being used to pressurize the tank

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1845459073728381243

>>16428285
headlight test for night time catch

>>16428285
Serious answer, it looks like there was a fuel leak somewhere in there.

>>16428278
Amazing how quickly you can progress when your R&D strategy is just "steal everybody else's shit"

>>16428285
Yes.

>>16428296
No it doesn't, a fuel leak would just look like white vapor.

>>16428021
>minor
That's worst than a SRB nozzle explosion
MISHAP INVESTIGATION NOW!

scrub calling it now

is vacuum engine relight that much different? if they can do it with regular engines after bellyflop can't see why vacuum would make much difference

>>16427919
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1845462545844535629
>Thank you, sir!
>Looking forward to serving NASA in returning humanity to the Moon.

will congress get its shit together to fix the FAA?

>>16428252
Love that buoy shot

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1845463518671466934
>Big step towards making life multiplanetary was made today

>>16428305
they won

>>16428052
>>A bunch of fat mexican welders built this
Did you even watch the last star base video? Nearly all of them have been replaced by robots or skilled white.
Space is the exclusive domain of the pioneer.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1845483651590389863

>>16428306
the problem is working with liquids in 0g

>>16428302
You may have noticed that there were a large number of hot ignition sources and that it was on fire.

>>16428308
We need China doing something to spook the US congress for that to happen
Hopefully they get those Mars samples first

>>16428251
>slightly damaged
If Vulcan shitting out one of its' SRB nozzles doesn't trigger a mishap report then a few panels on a chine won't either

>>16428289
year or two from delivering payloads to orbit with booster recovery? doubtful but maybe you're a yellow or something

>asteronauts leaving Starship to go into an orion capsule to fly to the moon

will be kino

>>16427895
getting squeezed lel

>>16428180
Elon also doesn't do anything and takes a whole room of engineers to talk him out of dumb ideas.
Or something like that.

>>16428317
I had a feeling hitting raptor bells with air going a gorillion miles per hour wouldn't be very nice to them

>>16428185
case in point

https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1845481395625304331

>>16428269
I swear I'm seeing the tower leaning a bit

>>16428332
How would he have handled it?

Will IFT7 and IFT8 be the refueling missions?

>>16428341
they probably want to do starlink missions as fast as possible

when do they start using raptor 3's?

>>16424307
>>16424290
https://x.com/WesternLensman/status/1845460873894035842

>>16428336
It's a steel frame, it bends a bit under load.

>>16428345
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1845467583212028370

>wake up
>watch humanity perform one of it's greatest feats of engineering
>niggers fighting outside my apartment now
it's all so tiring

>>16428342
Technically they could release Starlinks and refuel a starship at the same time. They aren't going to fuel a whole starship on their first attempt, just test to confirm whether they can transfer the fuel or not

>>16428342
I don't think there's the same urgency as last year

>>16428285
Engine shielding glowing red hot still. Engine bells are inconel or whatever so they aren’t glowing anymore due to material property
plus inner engine rings are being actively chilled to prepare for relight

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1845489065031819746

New launchpad is already designed for 10,000 tons of thrust version

>>16428308
>will congress get its shit together to fix the FAA?
Once Dementia Joe's out, the FAA is going to get forcibly un-fucked.

>>16428291
>have no words
>continues to write words

>>16428355

>>16428324
Pretty sure that will be the reverse

>>16428353
urgency to make starship useful, not that starlink won't work without starship

>>16428355
>aka Starship Gen 3. Probably IFT10

https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1845449444310851995

I'm glad I woke up ~2 hrs before the launch. Fucking this was perfect

>>16426415
He's right.

>>16428368
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1845464082352308429
> ..where the Chairman cited his @X
posts on the election, transgender issues and other issues as the reason for denying @spacex
application to increase launches.
>If @KamalaHarris wins, the entire country becomes California.

>>16428316
>the last star base video
lel I have not, I'll have a look

>>16428359
Iirc this was the last flight of Starship Gen1. Just Gen2 Starships/Superheavys from now on

>>16428332
Now that they have a surviving example the next booster can be refined

I am curious about how rapid reuse is going to work. Falcon 9 already requires an army to inspect the landed booster and now they will need double that just for Superheavy. This is likely going to get automated

>>16428368
interesting stance, more interesting to publicly say that... probably didn't like his spacewalk overshadowed by Elon's offer to impregnate taylor swift

>>16428355
We aren't just back, we're fucking gaan

>>16428320
Except it wasn't on fire while the base was glowing like that, the base was only glowing like that during the peak aerodynamic deceleration phase, and the base WASN'T glowing when the actual fire was visible at the base. Dumb fuck. Use your brain and eyes.
Yes there was a methane vent fire: No it didn't have anything to do with the glowing base plate.

>>16428372
Rare Isaacman L, he’s getting put in his place kek

>>16428372
>frog and the scorpion
ELON NO!!

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1845480595293438416

SpaceX reposted the montage from the start of the stream with inside views of Starfactory

>>16428372
i'm sure the D voter base cares about that mr musky lol

>>16428375
Wrong, next up is Ship 31. Hopefully they skip it though

>>16428329
They probably did too, but why waste effort fixing a problem that you aren't 100% sure exists yet for a booster that won't ever be reused anyway? Now they'll know exactly how much damage is caused by the reentry and how to best fix it.

>>16428380
It's entrained flames you goofy goober.

>>16428377
maybe he just doesn't want to talk about the issue right after this, but now is the perfect time to do so
assuming FAA, a Kamala admin etc can really block progress substantially, then they are a very sever roadblock in accomplishing what SpaceX wants to accomplish, however uncomfortable that is

>>16424668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAXyojEyeUY&ab_channel=kerrni99

>>16428388
The chad SpaceX
>our shit is in public view, go check it out
vs the virgin Blue Origin dripfeed of
>NOOOOOO we will NOT share information until it is READY for flight UGH

>>16428388
>1000 ships a year
No fugging way

>>16428372
Yeah Elon isn't going to care about optics. But maybe for the best, we're dealing with satanic communists after all

>>16428393
No it clearly is not. I will not be gaslit by a retard.

>2026: 50 loaded cargo Starships to Mars
>2028: 150 loaded cargo Starships to Mars, 5 crewed Starships to Mars
>2030: 250 loaded cargo Starships to Mars, 10 crewed Starships to Mars
THE RIDE IS STARTING

>>16428400
>reuters
propaganda

>>16428403
>panspermia

>>16428403
No way crewed would be that soon, come on now. More cargo though is obvious, and should be done as much as possible.

>>16427939
kek
I hope they land with New Glenn on one hand, but if the rumours about Bezos funding safe RGV or whatever the fuck that one enviromental group is called then fuck him
and I wouldn't be surprised if he did that, not the first time he does gay fuckery like this instead of trying to just compete

>>16428285
Just sun rise

>>16428402
kek based

>>16428391
I thought they would use S33. It makes sense that they would use S31 for IFT6 though since they are the same design and thus definitely don't need a new license. Fugg

>>16428402
What a strange thing to be mad about. Ignore the red circle, pay attention to the smoke around the nozzles.

>>16428398
That's about how many planes are made per year, and about how many teslas by mass. Steel is easy to get and work with, so the big stuff seems feasible. With V3 though that would mean one raptor per hour. I wonder what their bottlenecks are. That seems like a challenge

>>16428372
>frog and the scorpion
based

>>16428398
Get in loser, we're colonizing Mars
>>16428406
Hopper was just 5 years ago, who knows how much farther along we'll be a few more years from now?

>>16428317
Can they fix it fast enough so the booster can be rapidly reusable?

>>16428398
>>16428403
He needs to build thousands because for a long time SS will be an expendable Starlink launcher. Starship is meant to heft Starlink to orbit to generate money. HLS is just a custom perk and le Mars city is how he’s selling the idea of Starlink

>>16428403
That's cool but enormous space telescope fleet when?

>>16427523
This is a NASA problem. NASA is helmed by bureaucrats and manned by DEI; inspite of this it believes it can conduct a moon landing with the laughable scheduled it's outlined. I think Destin is right in saying it's a clusterfuck and the participants don't really know the plan.

I recognize that Elon is sensibly using the lunar mission as a vehicle to secure funding and infrastructure to pioneer towards a self sustaining Martian colony - An important goal for advanced technology to survive the upcoming competency (dysgenics) crisis, and civilization collapse.

>>16428334
the glazing needs to stop

>>16428419
>Rockets orbiting in formation
The idea goes extremely hard

>>16428406
Crew WILL come that soon are you kidding? What is there left for them to prove besides fuel transfer and life support? Starship is unironically almost done now

>>16428388

>>16428317
>easily fixable
prepare for 8 months of refurbishment

>>16428425
Elon will lead us to the stars. Cope and seethe brownboy

>>16428425
Its Jensen, maybe he has a point? and this was the quickest anybody has stood up 100k GPU cluster

Here's a view from mexico

https://x.com/GustavoCarG/status/1845487167734215147

>>16428428
Insane levels of detachment from reality

>>16428421
i don't think that's in the plan anymore, they memed falcon 9 into starlink's workhorse

>>16428428
Rapid reuse after reentry is still unproven. This one still might be literally impossible for now, but I have hope either way. A big steel tube with 9 engines and no fluff might be like 500 tons to leo for $10mil even if you throw it in the ocean.

>>16428439
Why was it so empty?

>>16428251
It'll be good when Trump gets in office and executes (stone dead) everyone in the FAA.
No more "Biden" (his handlers) interfering with Musk's attempts to create a mars colony which will inevitably secede from US control, thus insulating it from the upcoming dysgenic collapse driven by communist policies.

>>16428431
I mean yeah it might take them a few months to refly the booster but they will fly half a dozen Gen 2 starships while they repair and wait to refly this one. I predict IFT11 for the reflight

>>16428441
V2 is too big for f9 clearance