/sci/ - Science & Math

>>16378102
Why waste all the effort of digging a huge well in the ground, when you could invest the same money into perhaps double the former-magma-tunnel cities?

>>16377910
there are two big base modules next to each other which are connected by a two section corridor to a module with an airlock
you can copy paste this design on the moon, the two modules at the base of the long corridor (or "shaft") can be evacuated to the another module and if the corridor gets damaged, people at the airlock can evacuate with suits to another base

Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually

>>16378011
you mean the satellite or the kick stage?

>>16378058
>On Aug. 27, NASA’s Office of Inspector General (OIG) released an audit of Mobile Launcher 2, the mobile launch platform the agency is building for the Block 1B version of the Space Launch System. ML-2, originally projected to cost $500 million, now has a formal cost estimate of $1.8 billion, the audit revealed, adding that the cost could grow to as much as $2.7 billion. The platform was also in danger of not being ready in time to support the scheduled late 2028 launch of Artemis 4.
>In a report in May auditing preparations for Artemis 2, the directorate suggested that OIG was overstepping its bounds by commenting on engineering issues, which it claimed created conflicts of interest and could “compromise the integrity of existing safety processes.”

>>16378120
havent seen you in a while, plz post more anon

Any interesting pictures been released from the current SpaceX mission. Also when is the Starship IMAX thing coming out?

>>16378135
>interesting pictures
this is why we need more artists in space. we cant rely on regular people to create kino.

>>16378143
do you like blowing tranny and nigger cocks this offen?

>>16378135
>starship imax
probably not until after artemis III or HLS Demo

https://x.com/CJHandmer/status/1834271614638383149

>>16378159
https://x.com/BurakYngn/status/1834476068855554075

>>16378159
>>16378160
Not spaceflight fuck off

https://x.com/PolarisProgram/status/1834348887642886417

>>16378176
https://archive.is/Lys3A

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/09/12/spacex-polaris-dawn-spacewalk-astronauts/
>In the interview from space, Isaacman said the suit performed well. “Probably a good year was spent thinking that it would be an environment that was very, very hot that needed to be managed,” he said. “And we all were very cool. So it did its job.”

10min interview clip there

>>16378177

>>16378178
>Spacewalks are among the most dangerous activities astronauts perform, but they give them an unfiltered view of Earth from space. NASA astronaut Ed White, who became the first American to perform a spacewalk in 1965, joked that he wasn’t going to go back to the Gemini spacecraft because “this is fun.” When he did finally return, he called it “the saddest moment of my life.”
>Gillis said she also felt she could have stayed outside the spacecraft longer. “Stepping out and seeing the cusp of the world is absolutely incredible,” she said. “It felt as if the time just slipped away. And by the time I got to the end of it, it was already time to come in. So I wish we had a maybe just a couple more minutes to see it and experience it and take it all in.”

both said they could have stayed out longer

>>16378162
Stay mad. Or stop seething and embrace the brighter future that is being built.

>>16378177
all of the featured comments are about "billionaire bad" pretty much
christ

>>16378182
okay, not all of them, 10 featured comments
7 whine about billionaires
2 say its not a real spacewalk
1 comments about Wall-E space debris

reading the comments in general, it just gets worse I would say

>>16378130
In one sense, yeah, the OIG shouldn't be telling them how to do their job

On the other hand, the OIG should DEFINITELY be telling other people how NASA's contractor fucked up and cost the taxpayers a billion dollars more money by making a huge mistake. (It seems to be a common theme worldwide that buying steel is a fucking disaster waiting to happen no matter where you are)
Why everything NASA makes costs so much fucking money: https://standards.nasa.gov/standard/nasa/nasa-std-5008

>>16378188
https://public.ksc.nasa.gov/corrosion/coatings-data/ my favorite part the little blurb that says the zinc coating they use to protect stuff from saltwater in the air turns out to disintegrate when SRB exhaust (part hydrochloric acid) touches it

>>16378159
Hilarious but true

>>16378185
How do we enthusiasts change the public perception of spaceflight?

>>16378209
I bet you just looove suckin down on some large dark phalice dont you?

>>16378209
I think most people are just very salty and mad because they think this will never affect them personally in a positive manner
I really think its that simple, if it could be shown they might be able to go to space as well or that the technologies developed will benefit them then they would not be mad and I doubt talking will help solve it
you get this with any tech that is expensive in the beginning, a lot of people whining

>>16378209
Continue the subtle public pressure that gets them to realize that no journalists can be trusted and that the mass media is only making them carry their preferred opinions, I suppose.

>>16378209
Call them NPCs for tuning into to propaganda

>>16378209
SpaceX is already doing a great job with these webcasts where they do cool shit and Musk doesn't appear.

>>16378209
WashingtonPost and all the corporate media runs anti-Musk, anti-Tesla, anti-SpaceX, and anti-Starlink articles 24/7 on top of the other commie shits they promote, so you're basically talking to commies at this point

What complementary technologies can I develop, while not working directly for SpaceX, to make a self-sustaining mars colony a reality as soon as humanly possible?

t. /biz/

>>16378231
dual/triple/quad use technology.

Sets of mini robotic machines that can do mining/construction/etc that are modular, cheap, easy to make, etc.

>>16378231
Pisslocks.

>>16378209
influencer on the moon doing sports which are fun in a low gravity environment. not with fitness influencer but with influencers of a weak or normal physique so more people can relate and think this could be them.

>>16378182

The newspaper owned by Jeff Bezos is anti-Elon? (shocked Pikachu face)

Violin concert in 2 hours

https://x.com/PolarisProgram/status/1834525088726634721

>>16378244
he can't keep getting away with it

the audio is going to be shit isn't it?

The numbers behind the Viper cancellation:

https://www.supercluster.com/editorial/nasa-canceled-viper-thats-a-good-thing

Killing it was righteous.

So, really really old guy into space. Much better use of funds than a young researcher with their entire productive life ahead of them.

>>16378253
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Pettit
>As of 2024, at age 69, he is NASA's oldest active astronaut.

>>16378253
>really really old
>70
bro 70 is young

>>16378253
William Shatner is, as of 2024, the oldest and fattest man in space

"Burneko --- OUT!"

>>16378257

There are dozens of younger astromutts waiting for their first flight while old gonna die soon guy hogs the seat.

>>16378261

> As of March 2024, the corps has 48 "active" astronauts consisting of 20 women and 28 men. The highest number of active astronauts at one time was in 2000 when there were 149.

Well, maybe not dozens. They really riffed The Corps after Shuttle. Wonder if Space Force has any Blue Astronauts.

>>16378253
>>16378264
There is literally nothing wrong with an old guy paying his was to space if he can afford it. If you want socialist space exploration, go ask the commies at NASA for a handout.

>>16378270
Yet more proof that reading Ayn Rand leads to brain damage.

>>16378244
>Violin concert in 2 hours
the what now? they brought a violin?

>>16378270

> Albert Burneko is a writer from Maryland. His work has appeared at Deadspin, Jezebel, HuffPost, and VICE.

Sounds good. I say we trust him.

>>16378261
people really get paid to write any bullshit these days

>>16378273

*sigh* Sir, would you like to speak with my Manager?"

>>16378209
>How do we enthusiasts change the public perception of spaceflight?
if the problem is about billlionaires then it's obvious that the word isnt getting out properly. isaacman is pushing spaceflight boundaries but everyone is "BILLIONAIRES BAD". he needs to find someone based who can change the narrative for him because his current PR campaign isnt reaching enough people.

>>16378270
>>16378261
Commie shit

>>16378244
>Live from the Porta Potty acoustics
Clown Core already did that. Launch them next.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m00GvZzRCb4

>>16378270

He's also cranky about coffee and iPhones:

https://defector.com/neither-elon-musk-nor-anybody-else-will-ever-colonize-mars

Admittedly, as am I. They really grind my gears.

>>16378244
AYY LMAO

>19 humans in orbit
Gettin' crowded

>>16378209
>taking the comment section of the washington post curated by insane partisans as the general public

>>16378251
>VIPER’s cancellation is bad for lunar science, but good for NASA. Especially in a constrained budget environment, NASA should be willing to cancel more missions, sooner.
>In that same report, the GAO reported that the project was on track to exhaust its total funding by July 2024. That seems to have come to pass, and NASA announced on July 17 that it had canceled the VIPER mission. According to NASA Headquarters, if not for cancelation, the total anticipated cost of VIPER would have been $609.6 million—not counting the now $323 million lander—for a September 2025 launch at the soonest. (That’s the earliest Astrobotic’s Griffin lander will be ready.)
>However, if indeed engineers had managed to build a perfect rover, ready to fly, the total mission cost would still be $609.6 million—a $100 million more than anticipated, after its price had already doubled—on a mission promised initially for $250 million, and based on a mission that had already cost $100 million in development. The scandal isn’t that NASA canceled the mission. The scandal is that NASA waited this long.

>>16378270
>sane societies guillotine weirdos

>>16378251
why does everything NASA do run over the budget so much? Just general government incompetence?
because this seems to happen everywhere in government, not just NASA

>>16378300
Sanity wasn't really one of the hallmarks of the French Revolution or any revolution for that matter.

>>16378102
That looks almost exactly like the Sidonia from Knights of Sidonia, does it have a railgun in the middle too?

>>16378299
>Especially in a constrained budget environment, NASA should be willing to cancel more missions, sooner.
SLS dependa est

>>16378143
We need more astronauts like that jap one that took a load of cool pictures on the iss.

>>16378308
post some of his pics

>>16378307
the maw hungers for more

>>16378303
Because its all a scam with no checks and balances

https://x.com/PolarisProgram/status/1834540136077328691

>>16378318
crazy shit if they whip out a fucking harp

>>16378318

>>16378308
Thomas Pesquet also took some nice pics
https://www.flickr.com/photos/thom_astro/

https://x.com/PolarisProgram/status/1834547740975448235

someone send an audio engineer to the ISS to get field recordings for spacecore

>>16378346
https://files.catbox.moe/m9a1lo.mp3

https://x.com/PolarisProgram/status/1834552885306151029

>>16378102
>using my art as the OP image
Made my day
>>16378106
The use case is if travel between the moon and Earth is as ubiquitous as travel across Earth by plane is today. This is very far future, and I can't guess at what economic incentives would bring this about because there currently are none. Point is though, it might be convenient to spend your all time in pretty much the same gravity. Unless you mean stick the rotor city in a vertical lava tube instead of excavating? That would depend on the stability of the geology but ultimately probably make more sense

where's the concert??

>>16378353
>>16378358
ITS BEEN 11 MINUTES
GRRRR

>>16378358
two more weeks

>>16378358
yeah, they are late now.
where is the link?

>>16378360
This ambiguity shits me up. Is it 11 minutes or 11 months?

>>16378363
1.1 of one hundredth of an uncubed kilometer

>>16378360
just like with starship's external cameras on flight 4

its out
https://x.com/PolarisProgram/status/1834557770374296010

ITS UP
https://x.com/PolarisProgram/status/1834557770374296010

>>16378370
10 minutes late

>prerecorded audio
i sleep

>recorded in space
based, Hadfield BTFO

>uganda
do dey know the way?

>Haitian band
lol

dear moon BTFO
lmaooo

>>16378383
dear who?

>Venezuela
>Brazil
Kek

We did it Reddit!

the public will be swayed by this performance. they'll no longer question the billionaires in space narrative thats being pushed.

>Rey's theme
Could have chosen a better Williams track from a better SW film. Still cool to see the Starlink equipment working in Dragon.

>>16378209
see >>16378370 >>16378371

>>16378387
Can we get a ranking of each countries performance?
I know which country takes GOLD, do you?

https://x.com/united/status/1834306038654271621

>>16378392
Are you telling me that was from fucking Star Wars? STAR WARS???

>>16378395
why did they only choose communist shitholes?
curious

>>16378373

>>16378397
>he doesnt know about john williams

>>16378397
/sfg/, what song would (You) have wanted played?

>>16378404
star trek cuz thats what the haters love

>>16378396
so united is getting starlink? thats the most likely thing happening. unless they're announcing a united dragon flight to space.

>>16378396
Starlink wifi

>>16378214
Alternatively just stop using taxes (theft) to fund it. Elon seems to be doing a decent job funding a reasonable portion of his operation privately.

>>16378406
Holy shit that would be amazing

>>16378404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcVb6l4TpHw

>>16378404
If they were going to go with a Star Wars piece it might have been cool to go with the Imperial March to honor James Earl Jones, but it seems like this was planned out well in advance of the mission and Jones only passed away a few days ago.

its starlink

>>16378408
this was the first privately funded one and people are specifically whining about billionaires going to space
so you are completely wrong about the reason for the whining, these people think they are entitled to the wealth/money of the billionaires

>>16378396
>>16378413
https://x.com/united/status/1834562645598302700

>>16378413
The fact that so many airlines are not just adding starlink but giving people free access is pretty sick

>free* wifi

*ticket prices will increase across the board to pay for it

>>16378415
>We expect to have Starlink on all 1,000+ United planes over the next several years.
This is huge

>>16378419
This is great, make Earthers pay for it

>>16378420
a lot of direct revenue to SpaceX, but also advertisment to the people testing this during flights wondering why the Wifi so good and free all of a sudden

>>16378420

> FAA bans Starlink on all aircraft.

They're in for win and they will never stop.

>>16378420
That's crazy

>>16378395
>brown shithole
>communist shithole
>favela shithole
>african shithole
>arab shithole
Interesting choice

>>16378420
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1834566221775130679

https://www.united.com/en/us/newsroom/announcements/cision-125346

>>16378281
Unironically, !!
The world is missing a Sagan-type figure who apolitically gets the public interested in what’s beyond our atmosphere.
Even with $/kg going down, the reality is that it is still the domain of the rich (such as Jared) who can afford to push the boundary. This leaves a bad taste in many people’s mouths though. The narrative needs to change. There needs to be a global paradigm shift that takes the realm of Space out of the shadow and instead casts it in the spotlight of hope, optimism, exploration, cutting-edge science, and a benefit for humanity and the planet.

>>16378434
Haven't like a dozen other airlines done this already?

>>16378439
>The world is missing a Sagan-type figure who apolitically gets the public interested in what’s beyond our atmosphere.
we have tyson but he was dismissive of polaris dawn

>>16378439
I wonder if the normalfags would have liked all the dumb art shit Dear Moon was supposed to do? I can't tell anymore. If I could send anyone I wanted it would be Werner Herzog.

>>16378441
Tyson is also, unfortunately, retarded.

>>16378441
He’s a fucking retard, sorry not sorry. The man cannot “communicate” to the public.
Look at the original Cosmos—inspiring, interesting, fascinating.
MacFarlane’s reboot with Tyson starts off by bashing religion and only focuses on the popsoi aspects to keep popcorn munchers happy.
Tyson is blind to the obvious. He can tip his fedora and collect his shill paychecks—he will never be an instrument of change like Carl Sagan was

>>16378439

> Sagan apolitical

Some are forgetting his "Nuclear Winter" jihad in the Reagan years.

>>16378442
Every time I see a clip of Werner Herzog talking it’s always some eloquent melancholy statement that’s so sad but hilarious hahah

>>16378441
Anon, (you) are smarter than NDT. He's an actual midwit, you just think of him as smart because he was put on TV a bunch 10+ years ago for shit like History and Discovery channels. He hasn't even published anything since college, "communicating" is his career.

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1830777095615590774

Unveil the wool from your eyes peasants

tyson: nasa did it 50 years ago
sagan: these four brave men and women plant the seeds of hope for all who dream of a brighter future for humanity. into the void they go, and with them, us too, one day.

>>16378439
imo chuds would be shitting on Sagan if he were still alive today

>>16378209
Porn

>>16378456
>chuds
it never means anything except "disregard the rest of this post"

>>16378456
It’s true; what a blackpill damn

>>16378451
I don't know what you mean.
https://youtu.be/QhMo4WlBmGM

https://x.com/Gwynne_Shotwell/status/1834569835126390813

>>16378309
I was hoping someone else knew who I was talking about as I can't remember his name, I used to follow him on twitter but I can't find him now.
>>16378328
Photography should be part of astronaut training as I honestly think good quality photos and videos should be a bigger part of space exploration. You're never gonna get more people interested in space with pictures that look like someone took a picture of the dust under their bed with a old dumbphone.

>>16378440
United fleet is probably bigger than all the previous ones combined and then some. That makes it newsworthy.

>>16378462
>Gwynne is really in charge of SpaceX
Is dumb but it would be a really good PR move to latch onto it. I bet we see more of that going forward

>>16378453

>>16378462
Last I heard, base stations had to remain stationary, has this changed with new satelites or something?

>>16378209
Kill all flat earthers

>>16378471
laserlinks have been online for like a year now

>>16378471
The Ukrainians have been strapping Starlinks to large drones for years.

>ukraine
starlink helped us on the battlefield
>united
starlink allows us to give all of our customers free internet
>faa
whoa hold on now we need to slow spacex down because reasons

>>16378475
Daily reminder to abolish the FAA as punishment for their blatant and wilful obstructionism.

>>16378452
that why the flat earthers are the only people who ever bring the guys name up.

>>16378475
Federal agencies are political entities that are particularly controlled by the current admin.

>Be Elon
>find out the FAA is going to delay your shit
>immediately announce most bullish timeline yet (Mars landing in 2 years)
>FAA announces delay
>can now blame everything on FAA

>>16378483
wtf dont tell us how the sausage is made

>>16378483
If it gets the FAA out of the way, good.

>>16378401
>"Iconic" Rey's theme
Hilarious

>storytime with cancer kids
>spacewalk
>violin concert
whats next

>>16378491
Hahah

>>16378491
ive watched those movies (sad to say) and can't recall it. better to draw from the real star wars movies if any,

id have chosen the darth vader tune anyway...DUN DUN DUN DUN-DUNDUN DUN-DUNDUN etc

Scientific American writes Elon Musk is a fraud

>>16378453
>CLAIMS BREAKTHROUGH
Shit or get off the pot, QI fag.

>>16378502
>owes his success to competitors who failed to compete
seems reasonable.

>>16378502
Musk derangement syndrome is becoming a reality

>>>16378113
I would be hard pressed to find a benefit to SpaceX for including NASA in anything human and StarShip to LEO related.

Remember "human rating" a vehicle makes static its design, the antitheses of what StarShip is.

>>16378507
>Elon Musk has no will of his own
>only failures of his competitors matter

mogged

>>16378185
only TDS left wing anti white extremists comment on news websites, apart from maybe The Daily Mail.

>>16378413
>You'll be able to stream
[X] Doubt

>>16378439
Why in internet age would you want some centralized hack? Now everyone can find the there own disseminated idols.

>>16378502
It really is just nothing but EDS.
Did this guy think the richest man on earth would be normal?

>>16378513
Maezawa status?

>>16378513
just realised they forgot to draw her hair going everywhere

>>16378513
everybody: we want a violin concert
elon: we have a violin concert at home
violin concert at home:

>>16378502
>opinion articles
why are they always garbage hot takes

>>16378261
Colonising mars is pretty fucking retarded desu. Musk should be considering building IRL Rapture city under the ocean, or colonizing the Sahara. its free real estate.

I know you guys wont like this, but Musk is essesntially grifting with his mars shit. he may be accelerating space tech, which is a good thing, but even putting a man on mars in our lifetime is fucking unthinkable. how to return is the hard part, not to mention the absolutely lethal doses of radiation anyone will experience on the way.

>>16378521
Gb2r with this shitty normalfag plebbitor meme

>>16378510
EDS is a hell of a drug

>>16378317
CGI space missions are the Great filter.

>>16378523
>but even putting a man on mars in our lifetime is fucking unthinkable.
no its not. up the rad protection of the craft and its good to go really. have some extra fuel waiting in mars orbit for the trip back and boom, its done.

>>16378439
Uhm, chud, we have a guy called Neil Degrass Tyson?

>>16378523
>just re-colonize Africa, dude

>>16378529
so you think the lander will be able to effortlessly escape mars orbit? lol, lmao even. you will have to land a return rocket independently and make sure that thing doesnt fuck up its landing, or kill the crew on the way back, imagine trying to launch a rocket with just one or two crew members. it borders on unfeasible, nay it is unfeasible.

the most feasible way is send three rockets, one with the lander, one with the return rocket, and one with the fuel to get back. it just spirals out of control with extranious variables though. theres a reason they propose sending a terminal patient. they aint coming back this century.

>>16378439
Wouldn't Sagan be a cis white manspaining?

>>16378534
ok terraform the interior of Australia , then use that as a launch pad to colonise Antarctica. Learning how to survive antarctica would help in understanding how to in2 mars as well as an added benefit. Im all for space stuff, but we need to become a geological scaled civilization before we even think about going elsewhere.

>>16378518
Can’t even get it up

>>16378539
>ok terraform the interior of Australia
Operation Plowshare would be of assistance here, use a line of buried nukes to carve out a channel from the ocean to the interior, flooding it with a new inland sea.

>>16378523
Read what Peter Thiel has to say about expanding globalism (what you're suggesting) vs innovation (what Musk is doing)

>>16378535
Newfag retard. Starship is all those in one. It's a Mars return vehicle that also works as a satellite constellation builder. Getting people back from Mars is literally what it is designed to do. You outed yourself has having no fucking idea what's going on here

>>16378539
>just disrupt the global ecosystem and climate before launching a couple rockets
Where are you morons coming from

>>16378559
There are allot of retarded tourists since those fuckheads advertised us on /pol/ again. Especially because of the happening allot of them escaped containment, it will likely be the same until this stupid election is over and they fuck off for another 4 years

>>16378419
United has roughly 150 million passengers per year and 1000 aircraft, so in a given month the average United aircraft has more than 10,000 passenger flights.

Even if Starlink costs $100,000 per month per aircraft, the cost per flight would only increase $10.

>>16378562
See >>16378565

https://www.space.com/asteroid-apophis-2029-ramses-esa-mission
>OSIRIS-APEX retasked after Bennu mission, now set to rendezvous with Apophis during 2029 flyby
>ESA now fasttracking their own vehicle for intercepting Apophis
Excuse me while I tighten my tinfoil hat, but I am convinced that Apophis' flyby in 2029 will sling it around the sun once more to impact us four years later, and these missions are going to try and redirect it in 2029 so it misses us later.

>>16378572
If there was a genuine threat then they would not be slowing down starship

>>16378559
reading more pilpul pamphlets doesnt really make you any less wrong.

>>16378576
you're wrong about that but if there was a genuine threat JPL would be given billions to build something about it.

>>16378576
Their hubris is beyond conception, they will "solve the problem" themselves, the last thing they want is to rely on SpaceX for planetary defense.

>>16378577
Schizoid

>>16378535
>imagine trying to launch a rocket with just one or two crew members.
now that sounds familiar. not sure where i saw this though. anyone?

>>16378577
>n-no my baseless opinion isn't wrong!!!
>y-you're just jewish!!

>>16378502
>Dan Vergano is a senior Opinion Editor at Scientific American since 2023. He was previously a science reporter and editor at Grid News, BuzzFeed News, National Geographic, and USA Today
>BuzzFeed
yeah

>>16378523
You should definitely try your gay ideas in Somalia. For now just stop posting.

>>16378581
oh shit, i forgot that this thread is full of moon landing beleivers lmao

THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HQfauGJaTs

>>16378209
We need to increase the median quality of life back to where it was in the 50s, then selling people on the idea of funding exploration is easy becasue they aren't broke as fuck seeing billions spent on something they can't understand.

>>16378581
you must be thinking of astra, but they proved that 3 is the hard minimum and it doesn't always work

>>16378592
Wheres the rope?!

>>16378502
>scientific american
>sc
>am
>scam

Space joos

>>16378602
Reference material for you, and /sfg/ newfags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz7JGCj4Q5k

>>16378592
Are they going to launch anything again, or is it ogre for them? Rocketlab got the remaining Tropics satellites, didn't they?

do you think you would have killed yourself already if it made no one sad?

>>16378502
Arguing SpaceX didn't accomplish anything because its competitors are stupid and incompetent is an identical argument to that guy seething on SpaceNews that SpaceX makes fat margins because everybody else is not competing with them. I've posted before about how much stuff had to go wrong for SpaceX to succeed (ULA using Russian engines being the number one dumbest maneuver of all time). That just means the CONDITIONS were favorable, they don't mean Musk and Shotwell only succeeded because others failed. DC-X would have eventually been canceled by Obama as too expensive regardless if it worked, and SLS still would have ended up costing billions of dollars per launch. In any alternate reality China takes and never relinquishes the price advantage in commercial space, and ITAR would look like an extremely flimsy excuse for why US companies couldn't launch on their rockets.

>>16378539
what for?
there's nothing special or groundbreaking about building cities in deserts

>>16378587
ha, the hoaxies retard outs himself. be gone fool.

>>16378592
nah that doesn't ring any bells.

We're never convincing the ecocultists space is good. I just had one leap on me in a tangential Xitter discussion and tell me that people shouldn't go to space because we'll just ruin other planets like we did Earth. What the hell is wrong with these people? It's not just EDS, they're Antispace!

>>16378420
>over the next several years
Why does it take so long just to add a receiver??

>>16378440
United has the second largest fleet in the world, bigger than everyone else who's announced Starlink combined. Not to mention Star Alliance is the largest in the world with over 5000 aircraft, so what United does the rest of their partners will follow suit. I can cope and dream that AA will follow suit

>>16378395
>3 African countries
Why nothing in Asia? I'm sure Clear would have liked Japan to be included

>>16378625
how the fuck can you ruin an inanimate ball of matter? ecosystems i understand but venus is already pretty awful i think humans might actually improve it.

>>16378626
They're probably adding them during maintenance, which requires the plane to leave the line and travel to South America where they work on them. This occurs on a schedule and can't be rushed.

>>16378636
bucket crab mentality

>>16378626
1000 is a lot of airplanes. how many do you think they do in a day? any less than 3 every day and it takes more than a year.

>>16378524
>Gb2r
What? Is this another one of those reddit acronyms

>>16378645
mr newfag, it stands for go back to rebbit. how new are you? genuine question because anyone who has used this site for more than 2 weeks knows it. its ok if ur new but u shouldnt pretend to be an oldfag if ur new. just say ur new and accept it and learn.

>>16378579
>we can not rely on the whims of a tech billionaire to keep earth safe

>>16378521
this is exactly some shit i would see in youtube comments made by bots.

nobody:
absolutely nobody:
youtube comment section:
anon: >>16378649

>>16378650

>>16378209
It just needs to be made into such a normal mundane part of life that people who oppose it are seen like people who would oppose automobiles, trains, wireless communication, refrigeration, or indoor plumbing.

>>16378134
I'm always here. I don't have time to catch the beginning of the thread all the time because I'm very busy working on being able to go to the moon.

>>16378502
> Lockheed Martin and Boeing formed the United Launch Alliance (ULA) to launch expensive rockets, a joint venture green-lit by antitrust regulators asleep since the Reagan administration.
Why can't these journos even get their anti-business facts right?

>>16378683
Based, Im trying to do my part too. Hopefully I can get that job at SpaceX but if not right out of the gate I will build my resume up to be worthy of that job. Keep pushing our limits anon.

Solarcels wngts

Just reading some of this stuff, it's incredible how much shit you have to deal with to do anything aerospace anywhere in the US
https://www.faa.gov/space/stakeholder_engagement/spacex_starship
And every single proceeding adds a sequential delay for public comment that the agencies involved have to evaluate and respond to with equal seriousness. If a way could be found to make these delays happen in parallel it would dramatically improve the situation.

>>16378702
Thanks for your suggestion, anon. We've added a parallel expeditiousness analysis step after each proceeding, followed by a parallel expeditiousness analysis review at the end.

>>16378702
>stakeholder_engagement
actual communism

>>16378692
why does it wobble so

>>16378625
they are literally anti-life nihilists
life = suffering, therefore life should be prevented (if possible)

>>16378702
>>16378706
Update, unfortunately we were unable to find enough staff to implement the parallel expeditiousness analysis alongside our other processes, so it will now take place after the completion of the preceding step but before initiating the following step. The timeline of the advancement of American spaceflight now entirely hinges on a single homosexual african american who's main hope in life is that no one notices he doesn't have the slightest idea what the papers that show up to his desk mean long enough to take away his $85,000 per year

>>16378718
probably vibrations from the motor that turns it to face the sun

How will birds flying in 0G work?

>>16378728
It won't. Birds need gravity or they'll suffocate. It isn't clear they'll be able to live on the moon or Mars. Might be Venus or spin station only

>>16378728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4sZ3qe6PiI
They get pretty disorientated but I imagine with experience they'll learn how to do it.

>>16378733
won't work on a spinning station since there is no gravity in the air

>>16378742
Huh?

>>16378742
not how that works

>>16378744
Himalayas / Simulation and.its about 2 out.

Not you - for a completely different reason. - a joke that spurs.

>>16378751
Fucking schizo

>>16378743
>>16378744
don't huh me
it just wouldn't work, I don't understand how plebs keep falling for this meme
birds can only fly on earth because it's so massive and has gravity (just look at clouds)

>>16378753
yeah right, next you're going to tell me fish can only swim because earth has water

>>16378751
At the end of the day it's work, I think I find too joyous. Perhaps I'm on a ad-rush?
I'd do it but I imagine there's a lot of tedious parts I miss, or whether there's advancement to skip those.

>>16378753
Assuming you're in a 1g 240m spin city like in the OP image, you'd need to fly at 104mph to counteract gravity. Some birds certainly would fly fast enough to notice, but it's not like you jump in the air and the station suddenly shoots out from under you at 104 miles per hour.

>>16378753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4sZ3qe6PiI

>>16378775
I wonder if birds would get fucked up by the extreme coriolis forces

https://www.youtube.com/live/5sxzsG9NF94
Cute girls on off nom

>>16378775
there's no gravity pushing air down tho
so you can't do earth calculations because it wont work
birds would notice it very fast when they suddenly entered a very low gravity envoronment

>>16378102
I was thinking about social and societal improvements, we don't holds hands confidently as if it's non-sexual(it's the furthest from a sexual part). When people depict utopia, there's lots of water flowing in, but I'd go as far to say there needs to be spots or pots indoors. And things like flies and animals desire houses, a serious pleasure thing.

>>16378728
the space-animals program is currently in it's early days. So far the operation of rats in high vacuum is confirmed but only during greater or equal to earth gravity boost phase of launch. Once functionality of small furry quadrupeds is confirmed in zero G we will progress to ornithological flight dynamics.

>>16378781
their direction finding capabilities may be compromised. it is thought that the introduction of various kinds of signage to the habitat may counteract the effects.

>>16378787
I'm less concerned about flying birds and more concerned about livestock. Can farm animals adapt to low gravity or is it going to have to be spin stations? The colonies of the white man require cheese.

16378587
>beleivers

>>16378790
what do bird signs look like?

Wait a second... SOLAR SAIL BROS, IS THE CURSE BROKEN?
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-to-spot-nasas-solar-sail-demonstration-streaking-through-the-night-sky-180985052/

>>16378794
Ungulates will have a very hard time in 0G.

>>16378794
if the genetic engineering of low-G adapted livestock is causing delays a possible back up option being considered is the deployment of weighted overgarments and magnetic hooves etc, a relatively cost effective though temporary solution which is projected to ensure correct skeletal density and musculature development.

>>16378805
>>16378699

>>16378795
Wire leak of all areas and everyone

>>16378803
modified Chicken Scratches is the best-fit model at this time.

>>16378728
they get rather confused
it's amazing how so few people are aware of the fact Soviets successfully hatched quails in 0G
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7-hm3A7ayI
>>16378733
retard

>>16378811
Religious. Religious buildings of the highest grade in my mind

>>16378812
>cant eat
>cant breed
>cant lay eggs

>>16378814
You want all of what I can produce intellectually and the wire.

>>16378814
>>16378810
>>16378795
Lost bot or what

Interesting video touring the observatory 747. more about the plane than the telescope itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzcZeA8TlVY

>>16378783
>there's no gravity pushing air down tho
There's no gravity pushing anything down tard

>>16378821
The bot. It's lost. The bot it is lost. Lost is the bot 'cause the bot is lost.

>>16378825
lol faggot
guess you're floating in air right now dumb mongrel
not so cool now, huh?

>>16378783
they should take some birds to the ISS. would be interesting to see what they do. can they adapt in some way? i know its not quite at the vacuum + zero G stage but it would be interesting.

at least put some on a vomit comet.

>>16378831
On a spin station dumbass. IQ too low to follow a conversation more than three posts back?
>>16378812
You have to specify why I'm retarded

>>16378822
Still a shame it got retired. I heard stories about the flight it made for New Horizons, a lot of occultations are impossible to observe because they pass over the ocean https://www.nasa.gov/image-article/sofia-right-place-right-time-study-next-new-horizons-flyby-object/

Why are the deltav requirements for venus so high?

>>16378834
moron, learn to fucking converse before blaming others for your illiteracy

>>16378840
The closer to the sun you get, the faster you need to go to get there.

>>16378843
Why is venus higher than mercury then?

>>16378840
We are never getting to sun...

>>16378850
couldn't we gravity assist of Jupiter to drop pretty much directly into the sun? I think I saw a gif proposing such a maneuver.

>>16378840
I think that's just the delta-v required to escape Venus, the diagram says that the red arrow means the delta-v to reach said orbit can be reduced using aerobraking/aerocapture.

>>16378841
You don't understand how centrifugal gravity in a spin station works if you think you'd be unaffected by it while off the ground

>>16378840
>>16378849
Venus landing delta-V uis very low because of aerobraking - see red arrows.
Venus escape to Low Orbit is very high because of its atmosphere, plus a little extra delta-V to Escape and to E-V Transfer.
What >>16378860 said

>>16378849
Are we reading the same chart? ~9.8 to mercury orbit from Earth escape vs ~3.5 to venus... Minus aerobraking at the end.

>>16378865
From, not to.

>>16378840
This map is much nicer than that one.

>>16378840
>Phobos and Deimos
>Low Orbit (1 km)
I knew they were small but I didn't know they were THAT small. If one could walk vertically they could literally walk into orbit on Phobos and Deimos.

>>16378870
They exist to be converted wholesale into stations

>>16378869
Damn that's nice, thanks anon

how would (You) feel about a Mars mission that included no landing on mars, but a sample return from Phobos and/or Deimos?

>>16378870
Reminds me of the xkcd gravity well map

>>16378886
*yawns*
boring

These suits really suck man

>>16378886
might a nice thing as like a precursor mission like the ones to orbit the moon before landing.

>>16378891
Why is the old photo of earth so much clearer than the modern one?

>>16378915
How old are you?

>>16378918
80 something

>>16378915
one of them is taken with a regular ass camera
while the other is captured from a livestream so it's subject to image degradation

remember when retarded niggers were swearing blind that ice in the tanks wasnt a real thing?

>>16378886
maybe they could carry a little rocket with them in a manned starship mission to mars and fuel it there, launch it to a marsian moon, collect samples and back to mars and then with the starship to earth.

>>16378945
>Mini starship
Oh yeah, Zubrin's back

some old kino

>>16378938
those are rats in the tanks

Didan :DDDD

Dione :DDDD

>>16378516
the internet age is dying as it’s becoming shittier and shittier

I've been going through the old Cassini-Huthens image archives, there's a lot of gorgeous shots from it, wish we could send missions more often to the outer planets, they're pretty.

>>16378951
yes. they are subject in a longterm secret research project breeding vacuum capable intelligent rats for on-site rocket motor and general structural maintenance. They have played a crucial role in the reliability of the SpaceX reusable boosters and will do the same for Starship.

Ratus Ad Astra

>>16378915
film camera vs digital camera

>>16378960
And by Huthens I obviously mean Huygens, serves me right for not proof reading

>>16378965
didn't they have the hasselblads for Gemini too? Or were they 35mm? either way, you're going to get really nice quality with a decent exposure using those, compared to some tiny lens digital camera running on auto exposure.

>>16378965
It's not like nice digital cameras don't exist, and for whatever Jared payed for this mission I wish he'd sprung for them. although maybe they didn't want to waste time on vacuum proofing them.

>>16378886
Thats JAXA’s MMX, launching 2026.
Also look at how BORING Q1 2025 is… absolutely nothing going on.
https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/upcoming.html

>>16378354
Ahh, I thought you were planning this as a "this is how we will colonize the moon" pitch. Nah, your explanation makes more sense as how you visioned it, when we have the means to make it happen.
Although, now that I think of it, would we be stuck with day-long flights, or would we be willing to go the distance and make the flights to and from our moon like the transatlantic flights (6~ hours)?

>>16378404
Starman karaoke, Holst's Mars as a manifesto of where we ought to go, that kinda shit.

I bet those 4 up on Polaris Dawn keep thinking 'fuck it, i wish we could go to the moon'.

>>16378834
>You have to specify why I'm retarded
No, I don't.

>>16378209
They need to realize that Starship and similar class subsequent vehicles will enable them to also experience ortbital spaceflight should they want to do so in their lifetimes for a price not much more than an overseas airline ticket.
They need to realize that Starship will enable design and launch of telescopes that can find and characterize true earth analog planets and not just speculative superearth candidates whose actual habitability is unknown.
They need to realize that redirecting the funds from spaceflight to earth based activities cannot solve all of humanities problems or even a few of them as you cannot solve many issues with money alone.
They need to realize what the ultimate fate of the earth is and without spaceflight humanity will share in the fate of this planet.

>>16378981
>c'mon jared just one more flight, we know you're good for it

How hard would it be to convince women (and their low-test husbands) that their souls are weighed down by gravity, and only by escaping earth can we free them and their children?

>>16379007
e*rthnoids will never learn. best to just drop a few colonies on them and call it a day

>>16378471
Starlink Maritime came out 2 years ago

>>16379006
won't bet against isaacman becoming the first to land on moon on a commercial mission

>>16378915
stop nooticing

>>16379007
Just pay some influencers to start spewing new age homeopathic space astrology yoga nonsense on social media and they'll lap it right up.

Butch is a bit annoyed... see 15:00-17:30 or so

https://www.youtube.com/live/FvRH5hT2dWo

Moon base when

>>16379054
1974

>>16379054
two weeks

>>16379054
Correct answer >>16379061

>>16378782
>cute

>>16378979
>would we be stuck with day-long flights, or would we be willing to go the distance and make the flights to and from our moon like the transatlantic flights (6~ hours)?
Probably not! I may be wrong but I think you'd need a DV of around 40,000m/s or something

>>16378960
>wish we could send missions more often to the outer planets, they're pretty.
We can, we just don't.

>>16379023
This.
Just invent some spiritual mumbo jumbo.
Brigham Young managed to not only convince women to walk into empty desert with nothing in it, but in such droves they had to resort to polygamy for a few decades.

>>16379093
True ascendance can only be found when Earth is in retrograde

>>16379012
if he continues what he is doing and no other person starts doing the same thing then that is pretty high probability
otherwise it might be something like a SpaceX employee (Polaris Dawn tier dev mission but with full SpaceX employee crew)

>>16379098
precisely

>>16379048

https://x.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/1834009499931463705

>>16379111
https://x.com/Jason/status/1834652820743897449

>>16379112
https://x.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/1834665740336509309

>>16379114
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1834667037920239709

>>16378502
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1834666066905338226

Musk responding

>>16379023
I hate the fact that the average woman likes astrology so much yet won't be the slightest interested in astronomy. They'll start their daily rambling about Mercury in retrograde or whatever bullshit, but the moment I start mentioning proper stars and constellations names like Arcturus or Orion they look at me as if I'm a weirdo/autist. wtf, it's not fair, you were the one who wanted to talk about stars in the first place.

>I petition we rename the mission Polaris Per-Dawn given this week's schedule.

>>16379111
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1834640631194665358

Spes (pronounced like Space)

>>16379111
>our economy doesn't benefit from monopolies
Yeah several companies min maxing so frantically that they don't have time to develop anything new is great for an economy that subsists on innovation you stupid bitch

>I petition we rename the mission Polaris Pre-Dawn given this week's schedule.

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1834688746593173696

>>16379131
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4879133-brazil-unfreezes-starlink-x-assets/
>Some 7.28 million reais, about $1.3 million, was transferred from X, while 11.07 million reais, about $1.99 million, was transferred from Starlink on the judge’s orders.

Brazil just stole 2 mil from SpaceX

>>16379126
>wiktionary
based

>>16379111
surprisingly based for a guy named Brendan

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uEPt89lofZE
The same type bitched about this

>>16378502
sciam is a popsci rag run by a batshit woman who still screeches that lab leak is a conspiracy

>page 5 and 370 posts
/sfg/ is dead and thats a good thing

https://old.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/1fg08sa/spacex_valued_at_100x_more_than_rklb_why/
i know it's plebbit, go back, etc. but i couldn't stop laughing lmao. same people who thought virgin galactic was a real competitor. i really hope spacex does not go public for a long, long time.

>>16379146
nobody gives a shit about space, rightly.

there are more important things down here on earth. get your head out the clouds and get a real job.

don't mind me just going for a stroll with my rocket

>>16378915
Film is a higher resolution medium than almost every existing digital system, by a lot.

>>16379156
beep beep

>>16379156
>>16379158

>>16379136
Imagine doing any business at all in Brazil after this

>>16379111
>>16379114
>>16379119
its obvious to any /sfg/er that the biden admin is corrupt af. they'd rather hold spaceflight back than help the country. actual cutting off your nose to spite your face. there's no reason to vote for harris.

>>16379153
Gb2r

https://x.com/davill/status/1834703746842214468
>“So You’re Telling Me There’s a Chance.”

>>16379172
OH NO NO NO

>>16379172
Not a big fan of this new naming scheme.
It was fun when SpaceX started doing it, but now it's cringe.

>>16379174
Shut up fag let them have their fun

>>16379172
better this than some cringe "endeavour" or whatever the fuck

>>16379178
split the difference and name it after dave limp's mom or something

>>16379172
it should be called nigger killer

>>16379172
welcome to the cringe naming club, bo
rocket lab was wondering what takes you so long

Acceptable ship names are something like "Endurance", or something actually interesting. Notably, SpaceX does both.

>>16379183
Do we name every cargo ship ever made? No? Then Shut up fag

>>16379188
they do actually.
suck my cock

>>16379188
>>16379190
you two should kiss

>>16379191
How about you kiss my ass instead
>BRAAAAAAAAAAP

>>16378626
I actually worked on the United wifi team a few years ago as a consultant and I learned a lot about how that stuff goes. There's a ridiculous amount of regulatory and compliance stuff to deal with and the release cycle is like 6+ months for software, let alone hardware.

I've always been a Delta person, but getting Starlink would be absolutely worth the switch and it might even kick some sense into Delta. They've been on Viasat forever and while they have free wifi, it kinda sucks just cause it's so slow. Not to mention there's the entire pacific hemisphere that's a 100% dead zone due to the failed viasat sat.

>>16379188
Every vessel has a name. Usually little boomer speedboats have the funniest names.

>>16379188
fuck you idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5UdWAnUoWI

NSF has a tranny now? lmao

>>16378502
>>16378599
They first went climate woke about 2001 or so. It had been one of the few magazines I subscribed to up to that point.
The editor got interviewed by Charlie Rose a few years later and admitted that it was intentional.
(and Charlie Rose later got canceled for something I can't even remember)

>>16379202
yeah xer joined maybe a month ago. terrible at speaking but has good pics. shame about the face though. i look much better than they do.

>>16379202
Why must I have exclusively autistic interests? Are normal people forced to see trannies this often?

>>16379205
yes but they don't think about it as much as you do.

>>16379202
La creatura in the bottom right looks even worse than the h tranny.

>>16379207
when he was in high school, a bully punched him in the stomach so hard he got paralyzed from the waist down

>>16378870
they are smol but close to mars, this pic was taken by perseverance rover

why do zoomers like (>>16379146) need everything to be a twitch chat in terms of activity? is this the true end result of forums dying out? the younger generation can't stand 5 minutes without new content to consume?

>>16379224
Hey you dumb cunt, I said thats a GOOD thing very fucking clearly in the post. Less activity here because more activity means worse post quality, which is /sfg/ at its worst.

>>16379224
If they're not constantly stimming they'll die

The funniest trend I heard of is dares to "raw dog" long trips, where you don't move or use anything to pass the time

>>16379231
More activity means worse post quality* I didnt delete all of a previous sentence
>>16379232
Hey faggot, read the original post and tell me what it says at the end

>>16379205
I don't think they are, but I'm very sick of seeing them. Everytime you complain about seeing them they go 'uh rent free, you don't see trannies it's in your head' but if you have literally any traditionally male nerd hobby there are troons bursting out the seams. Trains? Computers? Military equipment? Japanese cartoons? Obscure telecommunications equipment? Remote control cars? 15th century military lore? Spaceflight?
And that's online, true, but If you go to any sort of in-person gathering for that sort of thing they're there, and you can literally smell them. I'm very tired. The only place I've been able to avoid them and do 'male' things is church. I sincerely hope Eloin doesn't let them on Mars.

>>16379219
i couldve made a more convincing one in blender. tell me again why a rover whos alleged purpose is to study the surface can magically point at the sun and receive no damage to its cameras?

>turn on the jewess
>europe finds a habitable planet
i guess its not actually habitable because this is the first i've heard of it

>>16379235
>I sincerely hope Eloin doesn't let them on Mars
Makes me wonder how discerning they'll be allowed to be. Like are they going to have federally mandated demographic requirements?

>>16379236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKK7vS2CHC8

When would an orbital hotel become reasonably possible?

>>16379244
20 years ago. a hotel-only station is unlikely since research is big money.

>>16379210
holy shit is this true thats hilarious

>>16379119
>illegally rescinded
Ok then sue? SpaceX used to sue the govt and win.What is he waiting for?

>>16379210
I would spend the rest of my life trying to figure out how to kill that guy without the use of my legs

>>16379249
One word.
Wheelchair mounted machinegun.

>>16378513
>nobody has been able to explain how it is possible for stringed instruments to work in microgravity

>>16378521
Boomer sfgooners dont get the joke, but i do! haha good one anon

>>16379248
the government investigated the government and found that the government's decision was correct

>>16379261
care to explain why they wouldn't, flerffag?