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>>16239924
animals

>>16239924
Nothing. The Solutrean hypothesis is not really taken seriously anymore. The fact that they would have starved to death is one reason, but the real reason is genetic evidence showing that Native Americans are most closely related to Siberians and not Europeans.

>>16239924
Oceans are filled with tasty treats known as "fish". Perhaps they ate those?

Unicorn beef

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>>16239928
>Native Americans are most closely related to Siberians and not Europeans.
That is true, but these fellas were meant to have gone extinct, not become a component of the immediate pre-columbian population.
In any case, most of these migratory processions were meant to happen in pursuit of large herds of animals, so food wasn't necessarily an issue as long as they got these animals.
If they in fact arrived in America, food might become an issue. While Amazonian natives can feed themselves in the forest with no problem, Carvajal and other explorers who travelled through the rivers until up to the early 20th century reported almost dying of hunger. Adaptation can be hard.
Didn't the Vinland guys go extinct too?

>>16240077
>In any case, most of these migratory processions were meant to happen in pursuit of large herds of animals, so food wasn't necessarily an issue as long as they got these animals.
What large herd of animals is going to be walking across thousands of kilometers of pack ice? Those animals need food, too.
>While Amazonian natives can feed themselves in the forest with no problem, Carvajal and other explorers who travelled through the rivers until up to the early 20th century reported almost dying of hunger
Well, the key difference here is that those explorers didn't come from hunter-gatherer societies. If they had, they would have been much more equipped to survive in the wilds, even if they had never been to the Amazon before.
>Didn't the Vinland guys go extinct too?
That was mostly just the colony being abandoned over time. Evidence points to Vinland essentially being a lumber colony. As Greenland was slowly abandoned over the years, Vinland became less useful, and so it was abandoned too. And eventually the Norse Greenlanders all died out after the end of the medieval warm period.

>>16239924
Seals, just like everyone in the North Atlantic. The Solutreans are an early part of a continuous circulation of peoples in smallcraft around the North Atlantic. This was as much for hunting sea mammals as fish, if not more. Seals for everyday food and materials, whales in season with other canoe. This went on from sometime during the Ice Age until the 18th Century when the Beothuk were effectively wiped out, from all around the basin. Sea mammals were important dietary components to anyone living near cold ocean, and still should be but that's a different thread.
There is genetic evidence of some of this exchange, but it's newer than the Solutrean artifacts. Cherokee, Chickasaw and people in Lebanon and the Near East share the X haplogroup but long divergent variants.
>>16239928
>Native Americans are most closely related to Siberians
Implying there was only one event or route between the Old and New Worlds. There's even preliminary evidence of the Nivkeh (sp?) living in coastal Siberia speaking a dialect of Western Algonquian.

It was always extremely obvious to anyone living in coastal Western Europe that there was more land out in the Atlantic somewhere because the gulf stream deposits coconuts and other debris from the tropical and subtropical areas around Florida and Cuba on European shores all the time.

>>16240077
>Vinland
They settled Iceland, Greenland and Vinland during the medieval warm period. When it got colder, the north atlantic became a lot more inhospitable for navigation with longer and colder winters, more sea ice and stronger storms. Greenland colonies could be caught in ice for years at a time and if you can't get to Greenland, you can't go to Vinland. So contact to both was abandoned and the ones that stayed, died.

>>16239924
Imagine failing to triforce that bad

>>16242066
hehe

>>16240485
>They settled Iceland, Greenland and Vinland during the medieval warm period.
Global warming shills on this board claim that the medieval warm period only occurred in Europe. If that was the case, how were they able to survive in Greenland and Vinland?

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>>16244477
those are a big job to take down, but it wouldn't surprise me if the people who hunted the mammoths to extinction figured out how. the indians used to only be able to eat them when a dead one washed up on the beach, they only started hunting them after the white man came and showed them how to do it.

>>16239924
whatever they found along the way and whatever they brought with them

>>16243177

>>16239924
As the World's first Canadians, they did what needed to be done.