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>>16217311Yes because fuck the janny who stickied the previous thread that was at page 7 or thereabouts at the time.
Yes.
>>16217307So, when is SLS getting deep sixed?
The little flap that could.
>>16217307here i just wanted to post this. im going to back to the /comfy/ thread
>>16217321>you don't get to bring flaps
>>16217307>pottery
>spamming / flooding Report submitted! This window will close in 3 seconds
So no way they use starliner for reentry right?
>>16217307gentlment, a toast>to starship>to starliner>to the jannies
oh thank god we have images again
>>16217333>>16217319Exceeded expectations
>>16217336Cute!
>>16217321Why tho? SLS is made for deep space manned missions, starship is made for desploying starlinks in LEO
>>16217334If the astronauts have a say I doubt it. Butch sounded fucking pissed during docking
>>16217349I want one of those starship blowtorches.
Uncanny, isn't it?
>>16217334they wouldn't risk killing two astronauts to prove a point, right?
i just woke up what's going on
>>16217356Got some work to do to fix those expendable flaps though.
https://twitter.com/mcrs987/status/1798775316648956068>Exact coordinate within a hundred or so meters.>25°58'8.19"N 96°30'45.47"W>65km downrange
>>16217350starship is designed only for low energy high payload launches. its not like they could just use it for low payload high energy launches
>>16217360flap-chan never gave up
>>16217360Thunderfoot is on suicide watch.
>>16217350>SLS is made for deep space manned missionsSLS is made to suck up NASA's entire budget and nothing else. Starship was made to do everything cheaply and inefficiently
>>16217360boeing saved face and are back on top of the space race
>>16217334They need 6 thrusters to dock but how many to return to earth?
>>16217307Okay, kids. Here we go...rather than sit on the sidelines potshotting Musk and SpaceX, here's the full rundown of where Starship stands in relation to the Artemis HLS, as I see it. Will update as the mission progresses, of course.Feel free to comment.
I hope we get pics of the ship if there’s a recovery effortDisplay her in a museum!
>>16217371common now. half that list will be completed on IFT5.
I still can't believe the flap held on. What an accomplishment.
Anyone got a link to a download of the full stream? I wanna make some VP9 webms.
>>16217350SLS will cost a fortune for every launch, and it can only be used once. The technology is massively behind the curve.
>>16217360You missed. EVERYTHING.
>>16217367Yeah but why are you guys comparing a rocket to get to moon to a LEO deliver?, I dont understand
>>16217371A long way to go, but to be fair NASA chose private landers really, really late—so ANY lunar lander provider would have needed a ton of time and work.And it’s not like HLS Moonship is holding the program back in any additional way when you factor in space suits having the same problem and SLS literally not being able to maintain 1 or more flights a year right nowArtemis will happen, it’s just happening with slips and delays moving all the timetables down the road by 5, 6, 7 years at worst
>>16217371How does this checklist compare to SLS?
Did the second stage blow up or land?
>>16217387Landed in the drink. Rather toasty though.
>>16217375I can't believe the ship managed to stay steady with large parts of its control surfaces missing.
>>16217382I don't think we fully know what starships capabilities are yet and it could very well exceed SLS, right?
>>16217360
>>16217387It was the wildest reentry I've ever seen, straight from a movie, flap almost melting off but in the end a perfect landing. Signal all the way down.
>>16217382The SLS has parts from the 60s. It's just an outdated way to do it. If you have a fully reusable ship that's really good at LEO then it can also go anywhere with refilling. In the real world, efficiency is measured in dollars, and science fags have a hard time understanding that.
>>16217387Flaps failed and it burned up.
>>16217368>>16217394what this about boo-urns
>>16217371>Successful booster recoveryNo, to be a successful recovery the booster should be captured by mechazilla>Successful starship recoveryNo, starship was totally destroyed, and it should land on land
>>16217324That flappy, he's just such a trooperGot such a strong... one hinge...
>>16217400Go home wine aunt Phil, you're drunk.
>>16217395signal all the way down is crazy. how come they lose coms on dragon but starship gets hd video the whole way down?
>>16217397And then it landed successfully.
Hey I don't actually know anything! Would starships payload bay big enough to say like, idk deliver apollo's CM and LM to orbit? Theoretically?
>>16217395>straight from a movie>Signal all the way down.Even more hollywoodesque, it lost sigal for a fez seconds at some point making everyone think that was it, but it came back
>>16217360Kino and Dread.
>>16217406Big wale in the plasma
>>16217392I dont think so, elon told me current starship could get 150T to LEO but it turned out to be 40T
>>162174063 starlink antennas, one pointing away from the toasty side. Plus it's a fairly big chonker.
>>16217414but then shuttle should have had comms then no? i guess they didn't have starlink then and it was all ground based
>>16217387One of the flaps was destroyed by aerodynamic stress live on stream so of course it still managed to achieve a soft landing in the ocean.
>>16217411I was literally shaking
>>16217406Big wake in the plasma
>>16217416Spic faggot the prototype can do that because they aren't optimizing for mass yet
>>16217405Tell me about what I said its wrong
>>16217418>i guess they didn't have starlink thenNo shit.
>>16217406Starship is fucking big it leaves a hole in the plasma for the signal to get through
why is there no ship in the landing zone taking footages
>i-it's a successful landing I guesssparkpaw coping for two hours straight
>>16217429Because it's not fucking safe to sit in a boat if the FTS goes boom?
NASA: it's impossible to communicate when the plasma bubble is around the spacecraftalso NASA: it's impossible to survive reentry if you lose parts of the spacecraft astronauts died cuz NASA lied. murder investigation NOW!
>>16217416>>16217422So then Starboi could legit just be like a CM in itself and drop a lander while in lunar orbit yeah? Like it clearly has the capability to completely replace SLS in all regards yeh? Yeh??
>>16217422A 375% increase in payload? hmmm...
Are the grid fins for f9 are also so spastic? They looked like they worked incredibly hard for starship booster
>>16217435but unironically
>>16217432Think of the odds of getting hit in the middle of the ocean. It's a perfectly acceptable risk.
>/sfg/ getting more grouchy as the excitement fades
>>16217434Starship cant even get to the moon, so I dont get it why muskrats keep comparing it to SLS
>>16217441Yeah, I wouldn't be out in the middle of the fucking Indian Ocean at night getting pelted with stainless steel rings and heat tiles.
Schizos are gonna have a field day with this one.
Namefagging as "Artemis3" for clarity.>>16217374Next four could, if it lives up to the hype.>>16217400Changed second one to "re-entry" so I didn't ding them, but you're right. Also changed "chopsticks" to "Mechazilla".
>>16217445it would just need refuel which is as of now part of the plan yeh?
>>16217437They do bump around somewhat on F9 but this was way harder.It doesn't do an entry burn and it can't glide in like the ship so it just hits the lower atmosphere like a brick wall
>>16217442
>>16217447What?
>>16217433>also NASA: it's impossible to survive reentry if you lose parts of the spacecraftAnd they were right, or are you stupid enough to think people would survive in a reentry like starship did?
>>16217446
>>16217447you need the webm to make your point sir
God DAMN, flap-chan that GANBATTE the shit out of everything despite being completely beaten up, never giving up, is straight out of a shonen animu. Pure Kino.You'll, never be forgotten, flap-chan.
>>16217416The rocket is not even filled to the top for these launches.You're copingOnce there is tanker ships focus will shift to min-maxing the upmass
>>16217432you don't have to man the ship
>>16217452Yeah only 20 LMAO
>>16217462its just like one of my japanese animes!
I just realized something, once humanity fucks off into space, nobody will care about /pol/ or politics anymore.
>>16217432starhopper has sat through many ruds and its perfectly fine. dont make excuses.
Ok I kneel. I'm rebuying all my SpaceX stock rn
>>16217477god I wish spacex had public stock
>>16217434>drop a lander while in lunar orbitOutdated>>16217445>$3bil for ten tons in lunar orbitKill yourself >>16217459Yeah they would've lived
>>16217479I don'tNo Mars that way
>>16217475It'll be great
>>16217479Fuck that. Then they'd be responsible to shareholders and would fall into oldspace complacency.
your honest odds for a succesful landing the moment you saw this?for me it would have been like 1/100 lol
>>16217486I was expecting Scheduled Disassembly from hitting the water before launch, so didn't clench anything. Extremely surprised when it moved though.
I told you bare steel can handle reentry
Anyone have a comprehensive list of future starship customers?There is VastSierra spaceAirbusNasa hlsThere is like one satellite companyThose are all the ones i am aware of.
>>16217479>>16217484Public stock only available after a period of vetting by /sfg/ autists and a knowledge test.
>>16217471I don't think we really know that anon
>>16217486odds?I just thought "It's over, we're about to lose feed"I guess 1 in a million.
>>16217482I'd make so much money though
>>16217486Everyone at my job today was standing around watching it, and when that happened we were like >yeah it's over
>>16217486I went "It's over". But then we were back.
>>16217486You should have more faith in flap-chan, she never gave up.
>>16217479I'm jumping on it the second it goes public (if it does).
>>16217477When the FUCK is he making Starlkink go public
>>16217452Refueling is the easy part. Trying to land starship on non-ideal terrain is the hard part. They really need to construct a landing pad on the moon first
>>162174860%Why is it taking them so long to go and pick the ship off the ocean?
>>16217490The DoD
>>16217504They are at the bottom of the sea anon.
>>16217502After the way Tesla is treating him, I doubt he'll ever do it. It would just be another opening for them to come get him
bros starship actually fucking worksif the catching works then starship worksit fucking works bros.....
>>16217502>Sept 29, 2020
Odds on the residue killing or incapacitating ISS crew?
>>16217360The astronauts have not died yet but now they have to find a way home.
WHO IS MATT?
>>16217490me when i build my lunar resort
Does Elon really have enough money to do this another ten times before they're read to start catching it?
>>16217490Once costs are down and flights are normal, I'm betting on Marriott. Look at what a new hotel on Earth costs.
>>16217512sir please stop goofing on the comms
>>16217512hi
The Changs also succeeded last night in the next step on their sample mission
i feel tps is dead tech as it's right now without hope becoming better and suited for reuse
>>16217479If it did I would be rich as hell. The moment I saw Elon's first SpaceX tour from like 2006 I knew he and SpaceX were the real one.I've never had that sense with another space CEO. They are all grifters, even the stoke space and RFA guys. Stoke space guy is an unremarkable tech CEO and RFA guy is pulling a forced imitation of Elon. They would be happy to sell their companies if they got rich, and if the going got very hard they would liquidate it and move on. Musk won't unless he's dead.
>>16217486>well they made it through max heating, it’s over but they met their goals for the flight>well they made it though max q, they won’t make the flip but it’s cool that the ship survived all that>holy shit the flap is still moving, they stuck the landing!
>>16217506If they just close the valves they should both float
>who is mattok now this is getting creepy.
>>16217482No Mars until Moon. Eat your vegetables first.>>16217487I fully agree with Mr. Thunderf00t that Musk has ended up duplicating the Space Shuttle and all the Moon and Mars talk is hype, but if that's all, it's still quite a lot. If this thing's up to 100T or more that's a ridiculous leap in capabilities for the US. They'll forgive him for walking off with the HLS money once the military leaps to his defense...
>>16217522Why don't they just design space docking around violent impacts like this?
>WHO IS MAT?>SIR PLEASE STOP SAYING THAT>WHO IS MAT?
BREAKING!>SpaceX found to have enabled cheats during Starship Flight Test 5>FAA officials investigating>FAA mishap report and fines imminent
>>16217515jej
>>16217531lel
>>16217526They most likely cracked open when falling over.
>>16217522Lewd
>>16217490>>16217505To add to this it doesn't even have to be an SDI reboot, Star-Shield is already ramping up
>>16217486if you mean splashing down intact, i was thinking 30%, since it was already past peak heating
I'm Matt. The fuck do you want from me Boeing?
>>16217536Are they also looking at cargo anywhere in 90 minutes or less?
>>16217540THEN WHO WAS PHONE?
>>16217534If they did they would have exploded, even empty there's still quite a bit of pressure + flammable gases
>>16217540stop shitposting and open the hatch already
>simulated arm catching>pez dispenser>engine relight in LEOwhat else will be tested on IFT-5?
>>16217548They will catch the booster on flight 5
It won't sink or anything will it? They should be able to get the cameras eventually for an uninterrupted view?
>>16217442looks better at 1280
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-4
>>16217548Not burning through critical hardware
>>16217551Chinese already towed it away if it floats
>>16217522>bonk
>>16217402good reference>>16217523need more images of starliner, since we couldn't post them last thread
>>16217547Give me a few minutes. I want to see if I can make them come out with high helium voices.
>>16217560>need more images of starlinerYou're gonna have to wait, since Boeing seemingly charge extra for actual bandwidth.
>>16217548landing in hawaii
i didn't know they could take pets to iss
>>16217442>>16217553Damn, look at that steel flowing like candle wax
>>16217442god the way it INFLATES
>>162174860
>>16217544I doubt he'll make a separate video on this launch. Starship sexually abused Thunderf00t today.
>>16217568https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qXja6MEsdEPlasma does not give a fuck.
>uh shitliner this is houston - save those poop filled undergarments for the ride back pleasehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybaWL0J-Tbw
>>16217548lithobraking tests in tel aviv
Everything is proceeding exactly as predicted by our scenario.
>>16217544I used to watch him back in the day. He became a total clown, what happened to him?
>>16217576Designated space shitters.
>This NASA stream>I NEED MORE UNDIES HOUSTON
Unironically what happens if Boeing fucks the space station? This would be one of the most pivotal moments this decade
kek houston just told them they have to wear their pissy poopy undergarments back. butch is pissed
>>16217560I'm going back through my timeline and most of what I'm seeing is just the standard Starliner front view from various different distances. That's the big reason why I posted the centaur detach clip; we actually get to see the capsule from a different angle for once.
>>16217582looks like he began balding. clear sign is brain is rotting
>>16217576>Those are the only set you got.>OK, thanks... I think.
>>16217588>>16217593uh ohstinky
were there any planes over indian ocean?
>>16217486maybe 1% yeah, I expected the feed to cut suddenly at any time.In the other view (before it stopped) we could see a lot of sparkles coming from the bottom, so i guess the rest of the heat shield also suffered, even if was much less. I really wonder what the complete exterior looked like before splashdown.
>>16217587pic related could have happened with dragon if they'd had that capsule explosion docked rather than on the ground.
>>16217601Why would they blast the abort system while docked to the ISS you fucking idiot
NAPPY
>>16217542Is there any ground to ground payload that would warrant the cost of Starship launch?
>One of the fags abord is acting like a NEETfagI fucking love it
>>16217371Neither booster nor Starship reuse is strictly necessary though booster reuse is probably a good idea due to needing 33 raptors each
did they post any new footage from the SF4 flight? any new angles, new data etc?
>>16217522Why the fuck is no-one talking about this?>>16217597I need to find my MH370 saves spaceflight fan fiction
>>16217607atomic bombs
>>16217371and also, didn't Starship vertical landing happen?
dey got muh cocoa shea butter on dat sturrrrliner?
>>16217612>Why the fuck is no-one talking about this?Who fucking cares what China is doing.
>>16217607I think they're banking on the utilization rate being better than a plane because the flights are shorter. That would theoretically bring costs down. Exclusively passengers. I don't see it. Just use it for Mars.
>>16217387https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1798718549307109867soft landing in the ocean
>>16217553The indomitable American industrial spirit.
I still can't get over that flap, that was the GOAT of that test.
DO NOT LET THE UNDIE SHITTERS ABOARD
>>16217607Maybe organs that need to go to patients in a very short time?
>>16217615anon we already have that part figured out, i was referencing ground to ground in one piece
>>16217624so I guess it was just the one flap
Another L for Musk fanboys.
>>16217371this is already a lot more than what thundercock and common cuck skeptic were thinking lmaoto the mooooooooooon!
>>16217631Now that you mention it...https://twitter.com/Diver2441/status/1798657932575567885>While waiting for starship I managed to catch tonight's Minuteman III ICBM test launch from Vandenberg SFB streaking through the sky, incredibly impressive sight. Worth noting this test was planned months ago and is not carrying a live warhead.
>>16217553That would happen to the entire ship if a single heat tile got loose and fell during launch
>>16217634who the fuck is this guy
>>16217486It was fucking over lolI was so close to give up the stream until I remembered this was something American that might as well been built on a picnic table, it's going to do something even under extreme duress
>>16217634spacex sisters our response???? im feeling very btfo by Boeing™ right now...
>>16217639an extremely based individual obviously
>>16217587Both burgers and slavs would flip their shit when over 20 years of work goes down the drain fully. The countries that would be receiving orbital debris would also want Boeing hung.
>>16217642fuck boeing lmaowhat a bunch of clown losers1 whistleblower dead every month lmao
>>16217642I'm middle aged. I have a functional sarcasm detector.
>>16217486I thought it was about to burn through everything at that point
>>16217486I knew it was fucking over, but that one bit inside my left nut knew it wasn't over. And it was right.
>>16217651I will never get over how fucking AWESOME the shockwaves are.
>>16217507yeah, though ron baron said spacex would ipo soon (probably meant starlink)SpaceX might have got some funding rounds with the promise of IPOing starlink at some point so the investors can cash out easier, but who knows if those are enforceable in any way
>>16217650would get that checked out if i were you
I saw a video of japs in vr sperging out to the flap moving and the splashdown but I can't find it now.
>>16217324That little flappy just would not give up!
>>16217486I was watching with my GF, I said at least 5 times "Well it's over"
>>16217651And they're going to just let it sink and we'll never know why that single engine failed
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1798792222743122164
>>16217610Reuse of both is essential for HLS, if the refueling estimates are correct (somewhere between 6 and 20 tanker missions, depending on who you ask).>>16217617I'm defining it as complete when it's a bona fide launch and return to dry tarmac.>>16217612>Why the fuck is no-one talking about this?Starship and Starliner hogging the Western press, but yeah, that's pretty fucking neat.
>>16217664>Reuse of both is essential for HLS, if the refueling estimates are correct (somewhere between 6 and 20 tanker missions, depending on who you ask).No it isn't, Starship is made to be mass produced
>>16217647picrel>>16217522>>16217523I loathe the Chinese, but I am absolutely cheering for their efforts in space. Please hold the candle under my faggot government's nutsack so we can start putting more actual effort into spaceflight, Chang.
>>16217658look at how much prop the booster had, landed on fumes.
>>16217490every university everonce starship is motoring, the cost to put their own satellites up becomes entirely viable for the bulk of them, rather than just the aristocratic ones
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1798789555342200964https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-4there is a writeup already
>>16217669Don't think that takes header tanks into consideration.
>>16217674
>>16217486Like 10%, was honestly expecting it to blow up due to the onboard fires during descent below 10km or rip itself apart during the flip manoeuvre.
>>16217674And it's already linked to in this very thread.
>>16217674no word on the dead engine?
SHE MADE IT
>>16217516if they start deploying starlinks soon then they don't have to, these test flights might be actually profitable in that casethey can deploy starlinks and then still test the landing procedures of both stages
>>16217582unironic mental illnesshe's one of the sorts that is mentally incapable of handling being proven wrongthis is on top of him also being one of the sorts to base his entire personality around being a smarmy contrarianHe thought spacex would be an easy mark, got owned for it, and death spiraled into impotent ass rage ever since
https://x.com/vast/status/1798761232482357287Looks like Vast was serious when they said foreign government organizations would be a major market for them.
imagine the smell when the hatch opens
>>16217686oh no, stinky
>IFT4 LANDINGhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FwXUuC_REk
>>16217691ISS has been marinating in farts for over 20 years. I don't think they'll notice.
>>16217666Have it your way...technically, the tankers could be disposable. Note the asterix. ;-) One last edit for the day.
>>16217639A war criminal
>>16217661They're chockfull of sensors anon, this flight was great because not only did it validate redundancies and the upgrades they did but the data was uninterrupted throughout
>>16217691helium leak made boeingnauts sound like mickey mouse
>>16217634Not sure why people are posting a fake tweet.
>>16217479Only as a desperate last resort. Shareholders only care about short term profits so any project related to Mars and beyond will be scrubbed
>>16217696They should make a crew dragon tugboat and launch it with a falcon heavy
>>16217604if they need to, i dinno, abort???? idiot.
>>16217696>starship deploys payloadhow is that required for artemis?
>>16217696reuse is obviously critical for the Starship programme to be the paradigm shifting launch vehicle its supposed to be, but reusing starships isn't strictly necessary for HLS so they might do expendable refueling flights just to get on with it
>>16217698Yeah but that isn't better than looking at the thing and seeing a loose screw blocking a valve or something like that
>>16217691Still not as bad as MIR. From the wiki>On a 1998 visit to Mir, bacteria and larger organisms were found to have proliferated in water globules formed from moisture that had condensed behind service panels
>>16217629don't need a yuuuge vehicle for that, just build picrel
>>16217683make it more obvious next time
>>16217717I didn't post it and it's not my fault you can't use ctrl-f.
>>16217307So if it made a soft splashdown, are they going to try to retrieve the stages?
>>16217689based
>>16217607You could deploy soldiers and military equipment aywhere in the world within 30 minutes
>>16217607next day delivery sex dolls
im bored
>>16217719youre an idiot.
>>16217719Most likelyIt's a bad idea to have all that tech floating around ripe for the taking, nevermind the environmental drones being considerably butthurt
>>16217587>haha station go boom
>>16217607A 2million dollar starship launch is comparable to a cargo plane operating for however long it takes to get to the destination but its also faster.https://youtu.be/exdMdgfzQqk?t=761
>>16217710My way of saying that it's demonstrating that 100T lift capacity, but yeah, not an Artemis requirement. Final, final edit to merge that goal with "Orbital refueling demonstrated".
>>16217725are any soldiers really that valuable?
>>16217522meanwhile Russia killed some villagers!
>>16217725im gonna deploy my seed down your throat
>cleaning up after herself?pajeeta made a stinky?
>>16217735Didn't Starship do a vertical landing during the soft water splashdown? they had to do a flip manuever i.e. vertical landing to land softly on the water
>>16217741>open the hatch and a torrent of shit floods in
>>16217741>butch and suni both shit themselves on the way upi don't blame them
>>16217745and they also did this a few years ago while doing starship hop tests, they did the same flip now
>>16217740Not if I drop mine in yours first
>>16217733Starship will not cost $2 million a flight
>>16217745It's not a landing unless it's on land.
>>16217753>t. thundercel
>>16217756What we had today was a watering
>>16217725It'll be shot down during descent and landing unless you already have significant enough presence at the destination to clear and hold the area, at which point you don't need such an express delivery. You'll also get nuked in response because its flight profile up until reentry is identical to icbm and nobody's gonna sit and wait to see what it is. And if you're against someone without nukes you again don't need anything like that.
>>16217756I doubt they are going to do that
>>16217753it will cost 20k a flight. you cant prove otherwise.if you have 100 employees on 60k a year just fly it 300 times a year.
>>16217746
she looks like a witch kek
>>16217765Do yourself a favor and look up the going rate of bulk lox and lng, then look up the wet mass of ss/sh
>>1621776520k is a nonstarter. It needs to be 2k.
Sunni's hair is insane. Medusa offspring?
>>16217770just synthesize the lox and methane like you would on mars. make it make sense.
>>16217771>>16217776I don't think there are any children on board so she might go hungry for a while
>>16217774it will cost 20 dollars in the future with starship version 3.
Can anybody explain if thunderf00t is just acting a role so he can suck out money from the anti musk reddit crowd or does he genuinely believe all he says? Because he sure as fuck acted so utterly petty and pathetic on his stream that I would be hard pressed to believe he was acting.
>starliner didn't depressurize itself and the ISSgenuinely surprised
>>16217771>>16217776https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNdOMcbuiiA
>>16217771You think there's aerospace-grade eyes of newt?
>>16217379yeah, id like to get all the footage from launch to LOS, and then the descent of the Ship because i could stream at 224p. pliz help
>>16217771I hope she dosn't lay any eggs up there.
>>16217771la goblina
>>16217784Who cares? Don't let some retard on YouTube live inside your head.
>>16217793I'm genuinely curious, used watch him like a decade ago.
>>16217776
>>16217790I got Twitter & X Video Downloader for my browser and I was able to download the broadcast from spacex's feed page.
>>16217725I think the US can already do that lol
fr fr why they spend government money on blowing up Musk's rocket instead of feeding the poor?
>>16217486I am a natural optimist and thought it still had a chance
You now remember KSP2
>>16217471it will need quite some fuel but look at the difference between what SLS will put on the lunar surface V what starship can. SLS/Orion probably wont be doing much more in terms of payload than Apollo was, while starship will be dropping 100 ton per landing. Its all fine, i like that theres multiple systems being developed.
>>16217725now I'm imagining pez dispensed odst pods
>>16217801damn if she has any boys they're gonna be giga-chinned chads
was last thread sfg with most replies ever?
>>16217805>calling the woman's daughter lamedamn newspapers were racist as fuck back in the day
>>16217816nope, the simultaneous booster landing thread was probably the biggest
>>16217809>tfw starting up RSS KSP with literally +100 mods making it take half a hour to get past the loading screenStill prefer it over KSP2
>>16217712Even though it was a soft landing, super heavy did land in the sea and salt water would fuck up a lot of stuff.
>>16217334>>16217352Boeing has the families of the astronauts hostage. They cannot refuse.
>>16217822>half a hour to get past the loading screenFucking hell are you on an nvme?
I genuinelly cant wait for the common sense skeptic BANGER about IFT4. will be a great watch.
>>16217824the goal isn't to land in salt water.
>>16217827won't he just ignore it?
>>16217824But it's stainless steel, not toilet paper
>>16217528>Mr. Thunderf00t that Musk has ended up duplicating the Space Shuttlethats a pretty lame way of describing it, because SS is fully reusable and wont take 6 months to cycle for another launch, which will itself be WAAAAAY cheaper than each shuttle launch. And of course, the moon and mars talk is what they're making it for.
>>16217827There won't be one unless he finds some shoddy article about endangering schools of vulnerable sardines or something to "back it up" with.
>>16217827Once everyone has neuralink Elon Musk will become a trillionaire as he lives rent free in the heads of these mongs and can get ad revenue.
>>16217839>rent freeThey'll be paying rent
>>16217528>I fully agree with Mr. Thunderf00tTrolling outside /b/ is against the rules.
>>16217835>he doesn't knowIt's balsa wood with a tin foil covering
How do Elon fanboys cope now that Boeing has proven its superiority?
>>16217826Nah, I'm using an old as shit SSD
>>16217680Why did they jettison the hot stage adapter? I didn't realise that was a thing.
I like to call him tendertoe sometimes
>>16217688never heard of him before todays test flight thread. im glad about that.
https://x.com/maxfagin/status/1798747577694978120
>>16217694International Stench Station
>>16217809I am now playing KSP1. I started messing around with Kerbal Konstructs recently and I'm improving my Laythe colonies with runways and shit.
>>16217850
>>16217855
>>16217843We cope by remembering spaceX has been delivering cargo&crew to ISS for years now for a fraction of the cost that boeing does.
>an American invasion of Lebanon is likely before the end of the yearSpace Force about to get it's first real war as Iran knocks out American satellites
Can somebody explain to me what the point of fuel transfer even is if you're not going to do it ass-to-ass?
>>16217857
>>16217864
>>16217802i'll have to try it with one of those online downloaders. if you can choose the time frame to grab it should work with the filesize limits etc.
>>16217859Well, if it happens I hope it won't affect SpaceX.
>>16217832>>16217837>>16217839He's already got plenty of material for the next video>burnthrough on the flap>two engine losses on the booster>both vehicles being lost at end of missionthat is all he needs to spin it as another catastrophic loss. Then mix in stuff about how it's far behind on the schedule unlike starliner which SUCEEDED first mission.
>>16217522>all that clanging aroundthey have no style, they have no grace.
>>16217336>>16217349Fuck off pedo
>>16217849iirc he's been pissing and shitting over Musk for well over a decade nowI am still to this day amazed his heart hasn't detonated like a hand grenade from the stress
>>16217845its like, you know, heavy man
>>16217548>simulatedHe doesn't know
>>16217880Lol, are you still here?
>>16217849he first got "internet famous" for making about fifty thousand youtube videos dunking on the stupidest christian creationists he could find; basically picked the easiest possible target to make himself look smart. He was doing this when internet atheism was on the rise, so he rode that trend and in years sense has been trying to ride the anti-elon trend too. Chasing the dragon, looking for more dregs of relevance and success.He's honestly pitiful.
>>16217881why would he be under stress?
>>16217324This was such a thrill, when it started coming apart I was just expecting the ship to blow up at any moment, but then it went and completed the flight
>>16217638no it wouldn't
>>16217881weird. did they reject his job application or something?
>>16217639please leave the internet if you cannot get irony
>>16217892oooh ok i understand better now thanks. imagine not letting go of your initial skepticism once you see things working well. definite character issues.
>>16217857Spaceplane
>>16217902those tiles werent where the fuel tanks are. There was clearly burnthrough and im astonished the engines relit at the end. the sensors on them were fucked which is why it never said they were lit on the diagram.
/g/ hereCan someone explain why you all hate thunderf00t now? I haven't seen him in a while but his debunk of popular scam science shit like solar roadways was cool. Did he go woke or something to piss you all off?
>>16217912I gurantee you one tile fell off the fuel tank too.
https://x.com/UltraSafeNuke/status/1798758017300922853
>>16217920look at his YouTube channel
>>16217921no way bro. how would they have any liquid propellant if the fuel was superheated?
>>16217920he has been whining about spacex forever and completely clueless to boothttps://x.com/GoodwinHig30984/status/1798724936690794952
Lucky Number 4magic is real.
>>16217771>she's floatingwitch confirmed
Ok, we have the launch vehicle nowLUVOIR-A when?
>>16217934alsohttps://www.youtube.com/live/Rn2EzfllTwA?t=3308s
>>16217920He's a decent chemist who should stay in his fucking lane of chemistry because he's consistently wrong about every space and rockets.
>>16217753Not at first no. But once they start successfully reusing boostsers and ships it could>>16217920Turns out "skeptics" are all retards who think they know more than they actually do. Just wait till the aliens show up and reveal they have been here for a bajillion years or whatever they will all collectively commit sepuku out of shame
>>16217930It has a lot of thermal mass
>>16217923>pylonman the future is going to be filled with so many fucking references
>>16217943*everything space and rockets.
>>16217923Solarfag on suicide watch
>>16217943What's the most perfect rocket according to a chemist again?
>>16217920https://twitter.com/peterrhague/status/1798737066009805162>He once tried to do transfer orbit calculations without taking into account the fact that planets move.>He tried to argue Falcon 9 was more expensive than Shuttle because he didn’t understand the figures he was pulling from Wikipedia>He made a spreadsheet claiming that re-use wouldn’t be viable before 10 flights (which SpaceX now exceeded) but even with his toy model had to lie about what it said to make that case
>>16217954Don't ask me. I'm not a fucking chemist. Phil is still like an electrician giving unwanted advice on plumbing because he also did trades.
>>16217920The problem is that /g/ is just as gay and retarded as he isBeing an “intellectual” isn’t a lifestyle; it’s a faggy, pretentious peacock act to look smart and seek validation. And in his case, he leans too far into the grift. Yeah you can point out flaws in tesla, or make fun of the hyperloop idea. But phil mason acts like SpaceX itself is some sort of scam act who are laundering money and burning the books and making up numbers and figures despite the more-than-obvious success of the company
>>16217961I don't think he's actually that stupid but he knows his audience is.
>>16217954Scifi books seem to favor metallic hydrogen
>>16217964Yeah I think that as well, to an extent. I think he found out where the money is. And you can’t blame a man for a hustle.But my goodness he has said some VERY obliquely stupid things about rocketry and spaceflight and I have to question where the scam ends and where his actual lobotomized reasoning skills starts
>>16217923>Pylon is a standalone power generator that transmits electricity wirelessly how long until we unlock zerg tech too?
>>16217954>the most perfect rocket Whatever reactionless drive that uap use to propel themselves.Propellant is for suckers
>>16217967I was thinking about that infographic about what the perfect rocket is for each of the disciplines. Can't seem to find it.
>>16217970You need to CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS first.
>>16217923Nuke chads... we won...
I think they should just use disposable solid fuel rockets to launch starship
>>16217973Chemists would hate a reactionless drive.
>>16217983And I think you should go in the pisslock, but here we are.
>>16217920newfag
>>16217983Well i think you're a fucking retard. What part of fully and rapidly reusable do you not get?>>16217985Good. Chemistry is gay. physics is chad and based. Instead of using gay chemical reactions where particles fuck each other in the ass to produce a meager propulsion, reactionless drives harness the power of physics exploits to achieve superluminal speeds.
>>16216171BUMP
As kino as flight 4 was, imagine how cool it’s going to be watching a first person flip maneuver from a camera that isn’t smudged with flap and a cracked lens.
>>16217993didn't they have another camera or did it go bust which somehow I doubt it considering what this camera has survived.
>>16217993Just more things to look forward to
>>16217993Watching the catch is going to be surreal
>>16217997I think the other one was directly on the side rather than slightly on top.There's no way it survived.
>>16217993Remember when we got the first video of a Falcon 9 landing on the ocean except the video was corrupted and it took great effort to reconstruct anything from it?
>>16217912why was there clearly burnthrough
>>16218007sparks and green shit flying off the back of the ship, same as what was happening on the flap but less severe. that was metal melting and burning away btw
>>16217805I think this woman could stand to be a little bit hungry.Or maybe at least share some food with her kids.
>>16217956>>He tried to argue Falcon 9 was more expensive than Shuttle because he didn’t understand the figures he was pulling from Wikipediahe's not wrong Musk has probably swindled billions from tax payers, look at hyperlool
>>16218009so sparks don't happen at all if everything is intact? makes some sense
https://x.com/thunderf00t/status/1798815425452818821
Did SpaceX or Musk release some images/info we didn't get from the stream?
>>16218014https://x.com/thunderf00t/status/1798817384364724654
https://x.com/thunderf00t/status/1798818335485989156
>>16218014>>16218018>>16218020This has to be thundercuck himself shilling his latest xeets Nobody cares
>>16218020https://x.com/WMNarmer/status/1798822378035921107basically living in an alternate reality, I think you could call this dogmatic, ironically almost religious like has been often joked here, I'm pretty sure these people are still going to be whining and talking in the same way when there is a mars colony and just say that it was 10 years late or something, only had 10k people at some deadline instead of 25k that musk said or whatever
>>16217997Wasn’t that camera mounted to the fin that got fucked?
>>16218020>muh timeline estimate from 10 years agoHoly shit he has fallen off
>>16218020Can someone remind him of the time his country launched a satellite, in which his own country cucked themselves from the launch so needed austrailia to launch it, and it failed after 5 minutes of sending any data.Imagine the space debris and trash up there!
>>16218020What a douche. Everyone knows that elon's timeframes are unrealistic. We've known this since day 1. What matters is they still manage to get things done even if it takes 5-6 years longer than elons overly optimistic ideas of how long it will take
>>16218020https://x.com/WMNarmer/status/1798822378035921107basically living in an alternate reality, I think you could call this dogmatic, ironically almost religiouslike has been often joked here, I'm pretty sure these people are still going to be whining and talking in the same way when there is a mars colony and just say that it was 10 years late or something, only had 10k people at some deadline instead of 25k that musk said or whatever>>16218023people were talking about him and he seems to be doubling down
>>16218014>>16218018>>16218020The man can't take an L, but he also has some points at times. Broken clock and all that.
>>16218013there should not be the firework show we actually got. the tiles arent supposed to react with the plasma like that
>>16218032>nasa did way betterNasa never returned a 40 story tall booster from space
>>16218036Yeah but they got to the moon. That has to count for something.
>>16218035Shuttle reentry had tons of sparks too.The bright green is concerning though
Starship hasto become fully and rapidly reusable. with all the shit flying off the booster idk if they could have reused it.
>>16218032Do these people think that the government awards contracts to the first that happens to pass by? Dear if they won those contract is because they brought results on the table, if they weren't sucessfull no one would have awarded them anything.
>>16218038And spacex and other commercial companies will help colonize it. Something nasa alone will never be able to do
>>16218028Far as i'm aware of the 4 Artemis missions that have flown so far (Artemis 1, the launch of the CAPSTONE satellite by Electron (success), the launch of Peregrine by Vulcan (failure), and then the launch of Odysseus by SpaceX (partial Success? It landed on the moon and fell over). There are 2 Falcon Heavy and 3 Falcon 9 missions until Starship will do a lunar landing sometime next year (which we'll see if that actually happens) There's also the Artemis 2 launch in September next year which will involve a crewed lunar flyby.
>>16218020can someone splice together all of his best copium scenes from his livestreamI dont want to comb through it myself
https://twitter.com/astroferg/status/1798824583740665982>Here is Starship shutting down at the end of the second stage burn as seen from Tampa, Florida this morning! Be sure to click the link for the full 4K video and the main telescope view, but here's a clip from the refractor riding piggyback on the scope!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acNMoITLei8
>>16217827Well that was unnecessarily mean-spirited and uncalled for.
>>16218043its just a cope mythos to explain away what Musk has accomplishedMusk is dumb, but this just by itself would be in contradiction to his companies being as successful as they are, so they need some explanation (emerald mine money, given money from the government and actually not successful, somebody in the companies is actually responsible for the success etc take your pick)
>>16218044It's not NASA's fault that Congress is giving their budget away to Wall Street
>>16218038By giving unlimited money from an unlimited budget to various private companies.
>>16218052the engineers did still do it, but the original diversion is kind of moot anywayNASA doing something 50 years ago is kind of irrelevant, what matters is what they are doing now (SLS) compared to private entities (SpaceX)
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1798827111454827003
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1798826109011734889
>>16218051NASA pisses away over 20 billion per year achieving next to nothing. The Starship program in 6 years hasnt even hit 10 billion
>>16218058just glad the astronauts made it to the ISS safely at this point
https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1798546887764779229
>>16218050To be honest i find Elon Musk to be quite annoying and attention seeking, but we need to give credit where it's due Spacex is doing the work of the lord.In the span of a single year they passed from having a rocket that explodes mid-air to have a nearly perfect landing and we are not talking about some extremely small probing rocket that weighs 10 kg, we are talking about one of the heaviest rockets ever made.
>>16218061>The Starship program in 6 years hasnt even hit 10 billionSpaceX is a private company and doesn't have to tell you how much they spend on anything >>16218041Why is the bright green concerning?
>>16218065>one ofPretty sure it's got everything else beat on just about every metric.
>>16218069You can do the math yourself, all the hardware is plain to see
>>16218071I don't want to do the math myself. I want you to tell me what those raspberry pis cost. Clearly they were too expensive for Boing.
At this point, why should we even bother funding NASA, Boeing, etc. anything and just give it all to SpaceX? I guess DoD can keep their money.
>>16218073SpaceX doesn't own any senators currently.
>>16218073It would look bad.
>>16217969It's an ego thing with him. Just listen to his voice and the way he talks - some form of narcissism there. He's unable to understand criticism of himself or his mistakes. Same for most of the people who actually watch his videos too I think, some amount of his fans are just bog standard boomers who have no idea about space yet hate Musk for whatever reason, but the rest of them clearly have a screw loose. Go argue with them on youtube and you'll see what I mean, they are incapable of accurately observing reality at all. Low-IQ and leftism is a repulsive combination
Are beans good food for a mars colony?
>>16218076Bullshit. If they dropped all money from big aerospace and gave it all to SpaceX, everyone would mostly cheer.
>>16217686about fucking time, boing
>>16218085Methane ain't gonna produce itself.
>>16218085rice and beans are rich eatther food. martians get the bug paste.
>>16218095banana leg bugs...
>>16218073NASA should focus on science missionsbut yes giving money to NASA to build SLS is retarded
>>16218073So where does all the infrastructure to make the actual missions that goes on rockets, go to?
space sex
Earth her? I barely even know her!
>>16218106>confused_cat_saying_huh.gif
>>16218106
So no faa nigger investigation right?
>>16218114Shouldn't be one, no. Not a lawyer nor do I work for the FAA.
>>16217850nice
how do you solve the flap gap problem?
>>16218114What's the mishap?
>>16218061buddy elon said they spent 2 billiona year running starbase, this was before any orbital launch attempts and didnt even inclue cost of vehicles and cost of starship things from outside of starbase. its definitely exceeded the nasa yearly budget at this point.
>>16218124Going to need at least two more launches to get the necessary data.
>>16218114they need to investigate impact on life in the ionosphere. please understand!
>>16218127no
>>16218114FAA commendation for landing that shit with holes in its control surfaces
>>16218124I propose a fixed delta wing. maybe even mount the starship fuel tank externally for greater performance in orbit.
>>16218128Flaps will work flawlessly next flight in following the pattern that every step they fail one flight is trivial the next
>>16218073I didnt know spaceX can build mars rovers, telescopes, interplanetary plobes.And btw, falcon 9, crew dragon and starship exist thanks to NASA money
16218140
>>16218140yes that was what he posted you subhominid
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1798837571226657001>Starship reentering like a meteor
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1798837841319141829>Starship separates from booster
Ground views of either craft while they're coming back when?
>>16218145>>16218147He's back
>>16217486how the fuck do they recover from this? is there an actual fix for the flaps melting?
>>16218151add more flaps
>>16218151No. It’s over, starship reusability in shambles.
>>16218151It's over for Elon.
>>16218151Move them leeward, bleed methane at the interface, stuff it full of glass fiber insulation.
>The night before #Starship's 4th flight, @elonmusk described one of the main concerns about Starship's heat shield. He turned out to be right as it was the exact spot that burned through. More video to come!https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1798839719964618998
>>16218157HINGE GAP
>>16218157he thicc
>>16218151work on why the plasma flow seemed to concentrate there. add extra heat shielding. get drunk, cry, give up etc. take your pick
big chungus
>>16217686How hyped was she during the Starship flight test?
>>16218160>>16218164
Spacenews says an environmentalist group is going to try and sue SpaceX over the wastewater thing
We've all been saying it for years. Flaps are an insurmountable problem in space.They'll never solve it. It's over.
>>16218168of course they are
>>16218166she came
I used to watch this guy a long time ago. Now it would be really funny to watch his seeth empire crash if the Starship is successful
>>16218168TotalEnvironmentalistDeath
>>16218177Ted!
GUYS. does anyone have a youtube video of the official spacex launch stream? i wanna download it in HD
https://x.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1798834723915264264not a software problem, not a hardware problemwhat the fuck is it then?
why put the flaps on the side? just put them on the back and make them a little wider to reach more air
>>16218180user error :)
>>16218180
>>16218180Morality problem
>>16218180it means they didn't design the software to expect the values they're feeding it. It's not "broken" they just didn't design it right
>>16218155They look like bouncers at a club lol
>>16218187that sounds like a problemsomething can not be broken but still be a problem
>>16218185Heheh
>>16218187Do not redeem RCS thrusts
>>16218187>it means they didn't design the software to expect the values they're feeding it.>It's not "broken" they just didn't design it right
>>16218157>>16218160>>16218164>takes ozempic>still fat as fuckwat da fak
>>16218085this is so disgusting
>>16217553>Flap-Chan being gaped by hypersonic plasmaSir this is a family board
>>16218113I'm all for spending money into engineering AIs that will manifest in flesh as sexy artificial beings. And catgirls, of course.
>>16218197He has tweaked spine and a huge rib cage for some reason. It's not all fat
>>16218200If you think about it, it's basically pitfucking.
>>16218209There is not supposed to be an actual hole in the pit.
>>16218205some fused disks due to trying to throw a sumo wrestler and weak back/core due to never exercising make it probably more pronounced
>>16218106assuming this isn't bait, there are quite a few Starship based startups right now working towards the mass production of cheap space hardware. JPL is really good at spending 50 billion dollars developing around constraints that will shortly no longer exist.
...well?
>>16218217I liked the part where rogget went up.
>>16217771>>16217786
>>16218217Humans on mars was really cool so I’m going to have to say that one
>>16218205look at the video in the xeet, he's fat as fuck
>>16217486Thought the flap would get cut clean off followed by the ship tumbling out of control and loss of signal soon after. I didn't even think of the possibility it might have held together until we got below like Mach 2
>>16218222Elon dying of obesity before he gets to Mars would be peak American
>>16218228god damn he is seething lmaooo
>>16218095eggs>beans
>>16218164el cretura! dios mio...
>>16218228this nigga havin a meltdown
>>16217713>a large, opaque mass of water the size of a basketball was found behind an avionics panelground control found the cum closet
>>16218228As if falcon 9 didn't need multiple flights before they got the hang of landing and reusing itWhat an absolute clown
>>16217713>and larger organismssuch as?
>>16218217why is he in denial?
>>16218243Xenomorphs
>>16218243molds that could potentially eat metal glass and rubber
>>16218180They need more money, please understand.
>>16217371some of those aren't needed for artemis even if they will be achieved first
>>16217397the flap never failed, it worked until splash down
>>16217550Or kill a thousand beetles trying.
>>16218216I doubt places like the NRO is going to give their projects to startups of all things.
>>16218255No shit sherlock.
https://x.com/MoonManX22/status/1798837134142402646
>>16217402the heawt of a champeun
>>16218248kek
>>16218085
>>16218180Combo of error detection with a hair trigger and larger transients than they expected.
>>16217459yes why are you even bluffing being a retard
>>16218085Why not just have bars that are just nutrient complete and forgo having all the variety?
>>162174865%
>>16218268there are a few hundred other ones I couldn't fit in this
>>16218268jesus. also most of those are probably bait and not genuine
>>16218267Mental health is a thing you know? Imagine eating the same thing 24/7 for any extended period of time.
>>16218085In Surviving Mars my colonists eat nothing but Quinoa. Been meaning to try that myself.
>>16218157https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1798848426895200567
>>16218272U vill eat ze undifferentiated food like product
its over thunderfoot sisters, what is our next movepivot to hating something else?
>>16218278Revert to clowning on hyperloop.
>>16218275i like his confidence! So he says next flight will be a complete sucess then?
>>16218278You dont, just move goalposts and thats good enough
>>16218281Technically this one was. Even wikipediacels agree
>>16218085In my fortress, we only drink plump helmet wine. We dont need food basically
>>16218276You joke but I still believe the the biggest wall for a Mars colony is finding sufficient amounts of people that won't just kill themselves or each other from getting stir-crazy,
>>16218278reject reality and substitute your own
>>16218127>believing Elon Muskholy newfag
>>16218284They completed all the milestones and it was fucking epic, but having burnthrough on the hinges means the starship as is cannot be reliably landed. It's miraculous that they made it
>>16218278>Yes yes SpaceX, well done. HOWEVER, the warp coil overheated as it passed light speed! Good luck with reusability when you have to recalibrate the drive core every flight you morons! HOHOHOHOHO.
>>16218248needs a part info panel with ablative: 0
>>16217528You're better off pulling your own opinion from your ass than concurring with someone that knows nothing about spaceflightThe shuttle was really expensive, it used solid fuel boosters that had to be refurbished, dumped a giant tank, and the tiles had to be refurbished or else a single one could kill the crew. Starship architecture is entirely reusable, uses all wet fuel, and a flawless tps is necessary for rapid reuse but not surviving. Also the shuttle was hydrogen which boils rapidly in space so orbital refueling was out of the question. It was a crewed spaceplane so the payload performance would always be worse than a normal rocket.
>>16218292lol'd.
New lawsuit threat>The same day as the FAA issued a new launch license, an environmental group announced its intent to sue SpaceX, alleging its ground systems were causing water contamination.,>SaveRGV, a group focused on the environment of the Rio Grande Valley region of Texas, announced June 4 that it informed SpaceX it would file suit against the company, claiming “ongoing violations of federal law,” specifically the Clean Water Act.>SaveRGV says that the water deluge system that SpaceX installed at Starbase, intended to limit damage to the pad during Starship launches, discharges “industrial wastewater” that includes contaminants like metals that can travel as far as one kilometer from the pad. SpaceX lacks a permit for such discharges from Texas state regulators, the organization says.>An environmental review conducted by the FAA before the second Starship/Super Heavy launch in November concluded that the additional of the water deluge system resulted in no significant environmental changes. The review concluded that the water from the deluge system “is expected to be less than an average summer rainfall event” and “would be unlikely to alter water quality.”>The organization said it will file suit against SpaceX within 60 days, seeking civil penalties and injunctive relief that could prohibit SpaceX from using the deluge system or even performing launches there.Eric Roach and his lies
>>16218296Day of the Pisslock when.
So today on the radio news, the regular on-the-half-hour news, they were talking about the SpaceX Youtube stream, and how halfway through it broke into Elon on a stage in California somewhere saying scan this QR code and get a special deal on buttcoins!And I know everyone here is now hurting from their heads suddenly hitting their desks. SpaceX doesn't do Youtube streams anymore, it was a fake stream run by crypto pajeets.
>>16217544My favorite cringe fuel was he described it as Orwellian and Soviet to call the flight a success, right after he himself begrudgingly called it a success at splashdown
>>16218271I think its a fair bit of both, but I'm not one to try and determine it myself outside of the most blatant ones (which I left out)
>>16218296Makes you wonder if those environmental groups are being paid to do these lawsuits just to stall spacex
>>16218292>nice job spacex, but next time maybe put more than 10 people on mars. Far off from being a sustainable city!
>>16218294>and the tiles had to be refurbished or else a single one could kill the crew.and also every single tile was a uniquely shaped and fitted piece. lol
>>16217553until they get the hinged fix they should stuff the flap full of insulation
>>16218180HAL 1000 was feeling grumpy
>>16218176He's already gone into complete denial
>>16218296Another group tried this before and it went nowhere. This lawsuit will be the same.
>>16218228unreasonable faggot.
>>16218217He's acting like an angry woman
>>16218278Become a flat earther and deny the moon landings happened. I think he'd fit right in with that little bunch
>>16218281Redesigned to reduce the risk that is already highlighted before the flight. IDK if he's saying "newer version" as the "next Starship" or not, but if he is, then it should be solved
why does some random youtube makes you goys this mad? like, why do you care so much? do you faggots have mental issues?
Can thundernigger not be a colossal faggot for two minutes and just say OK yeah that was pretty cool
>>16218317it seems like he does and it's funny
reminder that multiple right leaning figures have all come under government hammer this week including Trump, Alex Jones, and Elon. Political purges are ongoing and nationalization of SpaceX is not out of the question.
>>16217912question: does starship need pressure in its main tank to survive entry? I know its not an issue for fuel because they use header tanks for landings. But say it got a hole in it, could it survive?
>>16218321me when I am schizophrenic
>>16218319I mean, yeah, for a place like 4chan with its dumb games, it's funny. the guy literally makes retards ITT seethe and gets free (You)s from them.but for people who actually care about the science and engineering? hmm...is this general full of kids?
>>16218321not spaceflight
>>16218323Maybe if it's the methane tank that's breachedIf it's the LoX one, the whole thing will blow up in seconds
>>16218303the crazy ideas you gweilos come up with!
>>16217920You know, maybe, just maybe, he said really retarded things on the topic of spaceflight for years, never admits when he's wrong, and its his own fault. Also he can't tell the difference between "scam science" and a company that lifts more mass into space than everyone else on planet earth combined.
>>16218325You're also asking a state of maturity from /sci/ of all places. Just a quick look at the catalog shows how bad it can be.
So they intentionally removed few of the tiles and the the ship survived just fine.Tile just needs to be more robust in placement it seems like.
>>16218324Trump - convicted of feloniesAlex - Infowars ordered to dissolve by the courtElon - SEC investigating insider trading Giuliani - getting disbarred or something Scott Ritter - passport revoked on a flight by state department, no reason givensome Proud Boys leader getting something tooSteve Bannon - ordered to jail>>16218326t. thundershitter
And they're still not going to fish it out of the ocean
>>16218012>hes not wrong>probablyWhats it like going through life just claiming shit on a whim
>>16218335and all of those are deserved and legitimate. what exactly is your point? go back to pol please.
>>16218323compromising your ship in general has got to be less-than-idealDidn’t columbia break up because plasma entered the airframe and essentially ate it from the inside out and broke the airframe apart?
>>16218335kys
>>16217964watch his stream after splashdown, I think he actually has dementia
>>16218342there were a handful of other STSs which almost ended in disaster too; Discovery I believe, where luckily a steel component was below the burned through title rather than aluminum orbiter frame
>>16218281No, next starship still has the "old" version of the hinges.
>>16218020Its interesting how elon is always "supposed" to meet his stupid timelines but no one is "supposed" to hold a candle to spacex. Falcon 9 is ancient and its still the only rocket with any reusability
>>16218296Before spaceX picked that place no greenfag ever even heard of the place, now they are all up on arms to save it.
>>16218333pretty sure this particular general gets a lot of tourists during events like the starship launch
>>16218339kys yourself
>>16218038yeah it counts for the mass they were able to get there, which isnt comparable to starship which is trying to get over 100 tons
>>16218323it may explode due to the fuel being heate, but i saw a lot of venting on the reentry so maybe they have it set up to vent when presure gets too high
>>16218346Foreshadowed chad steel domination over weak virgin aluminum
>>16218264>there will be popcorn on the moonYippie!
>>16218354It ain't that much better even outside events.
Hows spaceguy5 coping?
NASA will land the first werewolf of color on the Moon
>>16218043They also dont think how elon receiving contracts could possibly be cronyism. He was a young guy with a new company and no background or connections with the existing complex. It's almost like he bids the lowest and the officials like his pitches.
>>16218363How many martian werewolves could you take?
>>16218362https://x.com/Spaceguy5/status/1798851252295491787
Is thunderf00t transitioning?
>>16218371>They're abusively telling me I'm wrongThis is your brain on twitter
>>16218372he's just balding
https://x.com/kate_tice/status/1798803791652983252>Update on my marshmallow>#Starship #IFT4
>>16218158Imagine being in space for months, not being able to masturbate because zero g semen is a hazard, then you open the airlock and see this
>>16218158hey what the hell is this
>>16218381What the hell, just use condoms
>>16218168finally. You can't just dump water that has touched steel pipes into the environment, that's fucked
>>16218366Quite a few; full moons are very brief on Mars and the tininess of them probably matters
>>16218176You won't believe me, but it won't change a thing. He's been like this for falcon 9 which is the greatest rocket of all time now, and he never took the L
>>16218384>condomsAn even bigger hazardWhat needs to be done is just swallowing the coom
>>16218258Your feelings are vulnerable at the hinges
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1798738061389692930
>>16218386whore
>>16218393Flap-chan would take offence to that.
>>16218399
>>16218328what if they vented the lox before re-entry?
>>16218366All of them.
>>16218403
FUD pieces coming through
>>16218407
>>16218403>>16218407toasty
>>16218408Drinking my mega pint, pondering the success of the mega rocket
>>16218342Yeah but a catastrophic hole is always a non zero possibility in space, micro meteors etc.
>>16218410>>16218411I mean I don't see much if any damage this time
>>16217379>Anyone got a link to a download of the full stream?Too big for Catbox or even Litterbox, so I put it on WeTransfer:https://wetransfer.com/downloads/e216991a8131268ce7b75089c7a4127420240606234510/beda72
>>16217660Your lack of faith will give her the ick
>>16218416unironically lol
>>16218399>>16218403member when the hot plate was never going to work and doom the program?
>>16218418lewd
>>16218408lol, they really couldn't find any flaw at all.
>>16218407Looks like they just got rid of the fence they kept blowing over lol.
>>16218418>common aero vehicleif orbit really becomes cheap then every great power worth their salt will store many of their warheads in orbit and deorbit them at ther target when necessary
>>16218429>dual human hamster balloutlandish but inspired
>>16218429Spacemen are stored in the balls.
>>16218434>Spaceman? >SPE-CI-MEN
stinky farts general
how long is it going to take to make flap modifications?
>>16218437just guys being dudes, you love to see it
Honey, CSS cope just dropped!
>>16218439flap-chan doesn't need any modifications, she's perfect just the way she is
Raja was at the launch.
>>16218441I don't think that math shakes out
>>16218404Then they wouldn't be able to relight the engines
>>16218399>>16218403>>16218407>>16218410>can make reusable rockets>can't make reusable towersah, yes, spacex """engineers"""
>>16218441if these launches become as common as air travel, what would be the implications of dumping loads of co2 into and above the ozone?
>>16218428That's illegal, and even then, warheads could be easily sent up on existing launch vehicles, they're not that heavy
>>16218441lmao it's mostly water. there's a path to carbon neutral methane anyway, genius musk strikes again
>>16218450>if these launches become as common as air travelthat will literally never happen, ever
>>16218450Planet will catch on fire.
>>16218414i don't know, that QD arm look twisted
>>16218450>launches become as common as air travelliterally impossible because of the noise.
>>16218452What are you going to do about it, nuke them?
>>16218065>one of the heaviest rockets ever made.It's THE heaviest rocket. There's no need to reflexively put in the "one of" qualifier.
>>16218452wouldnt it be faster to drop the bomb if its already in orbit? if you launch a fresh one it could take half an hour more even with zero prep of the launch vehicle
>>16218452>That's illegalWho cares lmao
>>16218441Someone PLEASE post the CSS schizo posts about lunar landings
>>16218050I hadn't thought of this til now but it kind reminds me of Steve Jobs actually
>>16218461wear headphones.>>16218456so musk was lying :/
>>16218408"Boeing Starliner reaches ISS without killing even one astronaut or whistleblower" -objective journalism
>>16217442I love you, flap. Please marry me.
Anyone have a webm of today's Chang'e 6 orbital capture?
>>16218474>so musk was lying :/Did he say that? Jesus Did he mean in like 50 years or something? Are you sure he didn't just say as regulated and as safe as air travel?
>>16218467My point is, you can have warheads loitering in orbit using current technology, no need for bigger or cheaper rocketsI'd even wager that there are some up there already
>>16218439None, they've already made a pathfinder for flap v.2
>>16217486I fired up the woodchipper and was moving the diving board into place
>>16218478listen to that nigga speak about starfactory. he says he wants multiple ships a week being built and each ship flying multiple times a day. Ambition on a mega scale.
any reason why they stuck with the broken flap camera, and not at least cycle to the one looking down the rocket's tail end?
>>16218485i would wager that the feed died since plasma was eating all the joints
>>16218403>>16218407>>16218410looks like some plating was eroded, but not catastrophic.
>>16218484>listen to that nigga speak about starfactory. he says he wants multiple ships a week being built and each ship flying multiple times a day. Ambition on a mega scale.oh so you don't actually have a quotedo you have any idea how many planes fly per day all over the world anon?
>>16218467Also, ground based warheads are more advantageous, you can point them anywhere you want and launch at any momentOrbiting warheads would need to line up to the target before you deorbit them, which could take many hours in a worst case scenario
>>16218485it broke or it was showing something even worse. Scott manley is claiming all flaps where burning up. But if that is true it would be even more amazing that starship made it all the way down and did the flip.
>>16218484there are 100k airplane flights per day
>>16218489>do you have any idea how many planes fly per day all over the world anon?Hundreds. Literally, hundreds.
>>16218485>show only areas of concern that are off nominalKeeping with old spacex tradition of only relaying information if something is of concern
>>16218484Flying is the most common form of interstate travel anon
>>16218493bullshit, its hundreds.
>>16218495>Hundreds. Literally, hundreds.Concerning
>>16217920>nowThunderf00t has been obnoxious for over a decade and it started with that solar roadway shit, he only needed to make one video about it by tried to milk it for hundreds of videos with nothing new to say, and when that dead horse decomposed fully he decided to start opining on shit he doesn't understand by trying to tear down space x only for space x to continue succeeding despite his claims.
>>16218484You're such a stupid faggot. Lmfao
>>16218495>Flight Tracker Overview>Tracking 14,438 airborne aircraft with 703,266,049 total flights in the database.>FlightAware has tracked 177,689 arrivals in the last 24 hours.
>>16218503this is for the US alone.
Each flight has made significant improvement over the last. Smoother process, further milestones. Relentless progress, one iteration after the other.So... gradatim ferociter?
>>16218378
how hot did the backside of starship get during reentry? would you be able to strap an animal to it and have it survive?
>>16218275So is there any point to mlre v1 launches when v2 are in the works (done?)
>>16218507Yes.
>>16218509You assume that they've learned all they can with V1 by now.
>>16218507I still want to get strapped to the inside of a fairing in a pressure suit
>>16218513I want a more exciting ride
>>16212982Air breathing engines, now that in space refueling will become more common.
falcon 1>too small to be that useful for itsdesired role>failed 3 times, worked on 4th flightthen falcon 9 was made and it was paradigm changingstarship>too small to be that useful for itsdesired role>failed 3 times, worked on 4th flightI can't wait for galaxyship to be made
>>16218038If the Saturn v is so great where is it right now?How come congress didn't order more?
>>16218448the relight lox is all in header tank right?
>>16218517>galaxyship BIG
>>16218060I have never heard of the journal Science referred to as "Science magazine" before
>>16218490>Orbiting warheads would need to line up to the target before you deorbit them, which could take many hours in a worst case scenarioJust make a big swarm of satellites and put pencil sized projectiles in them
>>16218176He'll just move the goalposts
>>16218507I'm more curious about the engines, given the angle of reentry it seems like they should get toasted a bit. They are engines so I guess they can handle heat but I don't think it's the same
>>16218267those are expensive, hard to get right (i.e. dangerous) and worse for you than real food
>>16218527He should have said "Science blog" to be more accurate
>>16218372What a cringe contrarian faggot.
>>16218531They also spoil at whatever ingredient (fat/oil usually) goes bad first
>>16218331we prefer laowai or baigui, thank you very much
>>16218506kek
So, what do we call today? The Flappening?
>>16218543I'm pretty sure I know what's going to be in the center of the Martian flag
>>16218534Please understand, Hyperloop isn't functioning so that makes todays flight invalid
>>16218544Earthfags in the future: a fucking trapezoid!
>>16217977We own before the game started, everyone else is just retarded
>>16218543Starship-chan masturbation footage
>>16218317I used to be subscribed to him back in 2009/2010. >>16218506he looks like the pisslock inventor, with a glass of piss
>>16218528rods from god don't work
Wasn't hyperloop just a white paper elon released that another company ran with? thought it was meant to be used on the moon/mars anyway
>>16218558Let alone how retarded hyperloop is on earth,Why would you bother making a vacuum tube on the moon
>>16218217Look at him, he's turning into a cat lady tranny
>>16218558Yes, that's precisely it. His involvement otherwise was to poach a few engineering students who did their own hyperloop projects.
>>16218450dude there are 100,000 flights per day
>>16218565where do they all come from? there can't be more than five airplanes at my local airport at any given time
>>16218561Seems easier to do without any existing atmo but I'm not learned in that kind of stuff
>>16218558>wasnt it just a hyperloopIt was initially a white paper for other companies on this Earth to bring to life. Earth failed in its mission.Musk then started Boring Company to solve key challenges to bringing this to life. Namely fast/cheap travel with the least resistance to regulatory building. That is underground tunnels. Overground infrastructure would cost 10-100X as much, with 10-100X as delay due to all the regulatory approvals for all the stake holders in all the blocks of traffic, etc. Its also one of the games that Elon worked on at The Rocket Sciences, where there is a hyperloop type system on the moon.
>>16218568they come from ur anus
>>16218543FLAP PLAP FLAP PLAP FLAP PLAP FLAP PLAP FLAP PLAP FLAP PLAP GET MELTED GET MELTED GET MELTED
>>16218568>local airportIt isn't all people. MEM handles so much freight per day that the planes land less than a minute apart. Watching the machine work is sort of insane.
>>16218568my local international airport has about 70-110 per any given moment, and they cycle every hour roughly, and its only a mid sized airport in the Midwest (excluding the freight terminals also)
>>16218573>with the least resistance to regulatory building.Ironic that the thing that killed it was people refusing to let Elon dig under their house
>>16218580Nah, it was LA playing politics because Musk called them out. Musk rightfully moved the company out of California and into Texas as a result.
>>16218085that looks so good
So many obvious tourist scum around /sfg/ right now. AS ALWAYS the general is unusable after a launch. Clear off our board already you dumb cunts.
>>16218580Isn't vegas paying to expand the tunnels?
>>16218584should I make a new thread?
>>16218584go back to >>/r/eddit faggot
>>16218585Yep. They're getting 50+ stations 40+ miles of loop that connects lot of the cities and areas of interests.
>>16218585https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/traffic/vegas-loop-tunnel-reaches-off-strip-resort-3056996/Looks like it
>>16218584you must show dem da way
>>16218586No
It is ironic how all those walking city people hate elon so much they can't get behind underground traffic tunnels
>>16218592Youre rightGO BACK TO YOUR CONTAINMENT BOARDS YOU SPASTIC RETARDS HERES A DIRECT LINK TO THEM>>>/pol/>>>/lgbt/>>>/b/>>>/a/
>>16218180It's "not a problem" to Boeing because they're actively trying to murder astronauts.
>>16218599Forgot >>>/v/ but there have been no kerbaltards here so we're good on that front.
>>16218543The day flap-chan was born, she never gave up.
>>16218584This. There hasn't been a single krystal posted recently.
>>16218598Its not the people, its the elite beurocrats who profess a socialist ideology.
>>16218584No, i was here before you.
hours later and I am still trembling with excitement. brilliant pebbles will soon be a reality!
How tf did those engines survive?
>>16218613Engineered to survive.
What a great day for Boeing and SpaceX! Who else here #TeamSpace?
https://x.com/esherifftv/status/1798891927074676753Ellie got Elon interview video tomorrow. Damn she made it big. I remember her starting out just few years back with corny camera shots
>>16218613engines live for the heat
>>16218616BOOBA
>>16218616who is that guy behind her?
>>16218616would
>>16218620some fat fuck
>>16218620That's the Bull
errrrrmmm where is the video Tod Dodd?
>>16218616>corny camera shotsyou mean the ones of her honking sweaty feet?
>>16217356Maybe. Or maybe we've been too much of doomers since the beginning the cold war. Humanity has generally had a pessimistic outlook towards the future. We always assume we won't make it. But maybe we really will make it. We were meant to be among the stars
https://youtu.be/3wxyN3z9PL4
>>16218621would what? what would you do?
>>16217371Wow you out another cool guy emoji. Great work.
>>16218629shit on her chest.
>>16218629Would serve her a bowl of eggs
>>16218632you are a rancid fellow
>>16218570Then it's just a train with a useless tube around itIt's better (like it is on earth) to just have a normal train
>>16218625getting reviewed for ITAR compliance :|
>>16218616He's gonna make another kid with her, isn't he?
>>16218644One of his trooned out so he needs to increase the brood
>>16218592VR Chat will see the way of /sfg/ inshallah
I feel that sls would be received a lot better by people if it was called 'jupiter'. sls is a gay and nonsensical riff off sts for no reason. if It was called jupiter it would automatically gain credibility from sharing a naming theme with Saturn.
>>16218649>sls is a gay and nonsensical riff off sts for no reason.This is made 1000% worse by the fact that only space nerds even know the "STS" term exists let alone what it means. To 99.999% of the public it has no other name than "The Space Shuttle"
>>16218649It actually stands for "shuttle, less shuttle" because it's basically shuttle but without like, the shuttle part
>>16218647Somebody said some Japs in VRChat were watching the launch and going wild, but they couldn't find the video. I'd like to see it.
Let's guess how many new leaks will they find in the starliner capsule. I think 4 more.
>>16218649I heard someone suggest that it should be named Typhon as a reference to its monstrous existence.
>>16218652at last I truly see
>>16218649for years i think everyone assumed it was gonna be renamed, just like people didn't call shuttle "STS" or atlas V "EELV". i almost wonder if it was nasa's passive-aggressive way of reminding congress that they were the ones who mandated this shit, since "space launch system" is taken word-for-word from the bill that mandated it.
>>16218652Shelby saw Garfield Minus Garfield and inspiration struck.
>>16218602>>16217531
>>16218649i hear normies call it the Artemis rocket
>>16218677>ArtemisLiterally the Greek femcel god
>>16218649They should have gone the other direction and called it ‘uranus’
>>16218647keek
>>16218649it's not Sls it's the Artemis rocket:3
>>16218485It's only reasonable to assume the flap we couldn't see (which the other camera is in) was undergoing similar events to the one we could see; the camera or its wiring was probably cooked.
>>16218689there were some people in the nixon white house who unironically wanted to name the space shuttle program uranus
>>16218697they could launch two startships and have one record the other ones re entry
Hop 5 wen
>>16218575kek
>>162187074th of July
>>16217293>>16217296fun fact: Hydrazine is noticeably and acutely toxic at levels of like 0.3 ppm and you begin to smell it at levels of 2-3 ppmonce you can smell it you're fucking cooked and will be suffering from liver and kidney and nerve damage
>>16218707*wen 5 hop?
>>16217340stupid frogposter
I KNEEL
>>16218715holy shit now I FINALLY get why they go overkill full PPE for X-37B return
>>16218720I KNEEL
>>16218649Jupiter came before Saturn, and they were just missiles
>>16218722does boeing only engineer death traps?
>>16218715I learned that today from watching a vid of dug making it
Do we think IFT-5 tries for a booster catch?
>>16218715sounds like hell...
>>16218728https://youtube.com/watch?v=SwFduB27qzoVideo for anyone interested
>>16218729Yes, confirmed by Elon on Twitter >>16218720I KNEEL
>>16218735Goddamn, what if it misses or something?
>>16218720Clear should get some flaps
>hostage all 6 engines>shutdown nominal>relight center engines>splashdownYep, I think Ship is ready for in-space relight
>>16218735Nope. Elon used a qualifier "should" admiting it wont happen on OFT-5
>>162187363 weeks downtime, unless the prop tanks are damaged. Remember, a crater beneath the launch pad was fixed in 3 months and operational in 4 iirc
>>>/wsg/5577784quick launch edit
>>16218739Control in Zero G too.
>>16218739I don't know why, but them losing control in LEO is probably my biggest fear.
>>16218734that's some crazy shit
>>16218762They maintained it for half an orbit today. Baby steps
Reminder, we'll see 3-5 more launch this year.
>>162187653 maximum
>>16218766modified modified license to launch 10 this year from starbase
Ok tourists and newfags exit the thread, two more weeks gang is back in charge
>>16218734>f16 hydrazine cleanuphttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6139486/Spooky
>>16218767not approved
>>16218765Where the fuck is V2? We need those flying ASAP
>>16218769>In February 2011, while operating an F-16 aircraft inside an underground hangar, a voltage fall occurred. As a result, the plane's EPU entered into operation. The hangar dome space filled with hydrazine vapor. Four ground crew technicians in their twenties, previously healthy, were in the hangar and inhaled the hydrazine fumes. None of them was exposed to hydrazine in the past. They were between three to five meters away from the EPU exhaust. Two fighter pilots were on the plane with a closed canopy and did not inhale the hydrazine fumes. All the technicians wore plain clothes without masks. The ground crew left the hangar and the plane took off. The exposure time was less than one minute. The ambient temperature was estimated to be around 10°C. The concentration of hydrazine vapor at the affected hangar was not measured, but visible vapors took some (unmeasured) time to dissipate with the plane’s jet exhaust fanning the fumes.
>>16218765>>16218745Camera angles keep getting better and better.
>>16217607my FAT ass>>16218069that green is either the tiles (boron or something idk) or the stainless ablatingany color that isn't random white sparks (rough edges breaking away) or purple (the atmosphere itself) is very concerning
IFT-4 was the ratsat of the starship program. we needed this one.
Can they make the hinge actively cooled?
did the chinks get to the debris?
>>16218785History rhymes
>>16218791No, just a huge fishing fleet, I'm sure its nothing
>>16218788With them changing the flap position they likely won't need to
https://x.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1798922101245800788Making Texas Proud
>>16218803To be clear, what would happen if I stood at the top of the launch tower during launch? would I die?
>>16218808estronaut streamed the launch from the tower base and only got slightly eviscerated
Uhhh was there not a Starliner press conference?
>>16218812Yesterday.
>>16218810
>>16217920>posts bullshit debunk videos >gets proven wrong>posts bullshit debunk videos >gets proven wrong>posts bullshit debunk videos >gets proven wrong>posts bullshit debunk videos >gets proven wrong>posts bullshit debunk videos >gets proven wrongthis goes on forever
>>16218490>>16218528have you shiftless faggots never heard of "cross range"?
just got through the Scottish Manerly video. he said Starship creates lift or something, doesnt that mean Starship is a kind of space plane? Thanks
>>16217920>nowI kill reddit wherever I see them
>>16218058>Mr. Calhoun, a fourth helium leak has hit the Starliner.
https://x.com/GoingBallistic5/status/1798858222146854980
>>16218647stupid frogposter>>16218728>>16218734don't fucking talk about fight club you fucking retard
>when you get liquid in a vacuum, it cools down. it freezesi thought thunderf00t was a chemist
>>16218647stupid frogposter>>16218728>>16218734don't fucking talk about fight club you fucking retard>>16218824correct>>16218836that's how you freeze liquid oxygen and liquid methane and liquid nitrogen, btwget them liquid at ambient pressure and then drop the pressure to vacuum, everything that's left will be solid
>>16218836he's a professional seether, makes living off of seething about other people
will they still go back to the earth on a starliner? what if the fucked up rcs makes it spin like crazy?
I keep rewatching the reentry part, still can hardly believe it's real, this shouldn't be possible
>>16218844Then they will surely die
>>16218846nasa should just send a crew dragon
>>16218844the glow started and the burn-through occurred near when the call-out for "peak dynamic pressure", right? That's the perfect time for "peak gas intrusion into seals" to occur, and thus the burn-through
their software must be so good to accomodate landing with a fucked up flap
>>16217920Watch his stream reacting to IFT-4. He is literally cheering for failure, and every time it doesn't come he goes deeper into coping mode. He also calls the people working as SpaceX who are cheering over the second state doing a soft splashdown "morons".
How the fuck did this janky heatshield work?
>>16218849talking about the boing starliner
>>16218854uh yes correct I responded to the wrong postI was trying to reply to >>16218845>>16218853it's designed well
>>16218853Wait a second, why can't you just make big half-ring tiles like the sections of Starship itself, rather than making ten gorillion little ones?
>>16218856*Cracks*
>>16218853Sheer strength and certainty of steel behind it
>>16218856can't transport those on the highwayalso they'll just break
No launch webms?
>people sleeping on scrubliner because they made it to the stationThat piece of shit is still attached to the station and could do anyhting retarded like spontaniously combust or leak so hard it deorbits the station. It ain't over until they're back on dragon and that abomination is detached from the ISS and burned up in the atmosphere.
>>16218872helium is the most volatile substance known to man. we could be looking at 10 million dead minimum when starliner deorbits the ISS.
>>16218872Even if it was falling apart they would still force astronauts into it and have them burn up. We are talking about the same NASA that send Challenger up to it's fiery but peaceful death and didn't even bother looking at Columbia leading edge damage after they saw the foam strike. They have complete disregard for astronaut survival despite constantly mumbling platitudes about safety.
>>16218808It would be extremely painful.
>>16218878I half expect a crew mutiny. I would not feel safe getting back in that thing.
>>16218878NASA is #1 killer of astronauts
>>16218872I feel like the scrubliner situation was worse than they were letting on. Everyone on that livestream looked extremely stressed.
>>16218883rumor is nelson's threatened to send boeing hit squads after their families. absolutely despicable.
So now what? I’m not off my Starship high yet
Now we wait for IFT-5 I wonder if their booster accuracy this flight was good enough to attempt the catch next flight
>>16218901I'm thinking the catch will be IFT-7 or 8
>>16218901They should probably wait until the last Starship Block 1 is about to fly so that any delays fixing the site of debris won’t impact cadence too much
>>16218899it's time
>>16218906Finally, a functional high energy launcher
how are old space reacting to that starship launch
>>16218914
>>16218914A lot are congratulating SpaceX. Some coping and saying that this proves nothing. Most haven’t really reacted
>>16218919>Most haven’t really reactedcatatonia is a symptom of shock, checks out
>>16218906Nice boomer rocket. Is it fully reusable?
>>16218927wow, nice one dude. experts have confirmed there's no point in even attempting reusability before the 2030s. enjoy your molten control flaps in the meantime.
>>16218933>expertsThose experts also said falcon 9 reuse was impossible lmao
nobody will be able to go to mars cuz all the jobs are gone. neo feudalism is here.
>>16218934ok, so an expert makes ONE mistake and all of a sudden nobody's supposed to listen to him ever again? is that what you're saying?the bottom line is ariane 6 is good. in fact, it's scary good. as far as i'm concerned it's the best operational rocket in the world.
Make a thread in the next five minutes or I will.
>>16218933Experts are funny, they're always people who've studied a field but for some reason they've gone into media. They're often super rusty or straight up wrong if they don't have real life experience
has elon actually admitted that payload is 40t or are shills just making that up>implying it matters when the alternative launcher is $2B/launch
>>16218950why don't you spend 1 minute on google checking
Stage this bitch >>16218956>>16218956>>16218956
>>16218958you're a nigger
>>16218958on one hand, earlyon the other, anime girlhmmmmmmmmmmmhard choice
>>16218958nobody is going to post in your thread, we'll just make a new one when its time.
>>16218958we stage on page 10 retard.
>>16218948Their problem is that people around them, and even experts themselves, keep forgetting that they're only experts in one small area and not all things conceivable under the sun.
>>16218958>the rules don't apply to me!>I'm a super special snowflake!!why are the anime pedos all such massively narcissistic attention whores?
>>16218061>NASA pisses away over 20 billion per yearway, way over that much. their budget never adds up, they quote lowball numbers to make it seem less wasteful than it really is, they're closer to $100 billion than they are to 20
Is the next Starship launch going to be a productive mission of some sort or another test flight?
>>16218975given how low a priority they placed on fixing the door problems from IFT-3 i really doubt it's putting any payloads into orbit this year
>>16218976It was a priority. It was fixed. Just in v2 and they have 4 v1 rockets to burn through
>>16218950elon posted that you're a faggot
>>16218958clearly a false flag thread by an anti anime schizo, do not fall for their psyop
>>16218584It has been very good I would sayQuestions are so etimes good discussion starting points, and it has been pretty much all on topic
Next launch in a month*?* - pending regulatory approval
>>16219027yeah yeah i remember when ift-4 was gonna fly in april too
>>16218899Ellie in space musk i yrrview should drop soon, EDA starbase tour should start soon tooIFT-5 should be happening in like a month now as long as they can modify the next ship quickly (4 v1 builta amd mostly ready)
https://x.com/esherifftv/status/1798930924333310055BOOBA
are the v2 ships gonna use raptor 3?
>>16219041God Elon looks like shit.
Did spacex or elon share some new pictures that we didn't see during the livestream?
https://x.com/esherifftv/status/1798974278874124588
>>16219042I don't think so
>>16219027WDR and full engine static fire?
>>16218151They were using 3/4 inch methane mechanical shielding with 9mm polyurethane foundation. Looks like just a matter of bumping those numbers and it should be fine.
>>16219061thunderf00t? Oh shit he was streaming from the control room this whole time?
>>16219041>Btw everyone, I’ve been up since 5am and I am editing this all by myself so I can publish tomorrow! >Support the one woman band citizen journalist! V>ideo drops tmrw morning on X and YouTube.
>>16218151They knew the gap in the hinges would be an issue, IFT-5 should have no gap therehttps://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1798839719964618998
>>16219061I'm triggered by the 'nuke mars' t-shirt. I have PTSD from worrying about nuclear war, like a lot of people. Watching this gave me anxiety and I hope that can be more sensitive next time.
>>16219053>The midnight oil has been burned. >Time for me to sleep. >See y’all in the morning.
>>16219061who is the guy that was sitting next to Elon?
>>16219064isn't that the raptor lead
>>16219070you're right, it should say "nuke earth, space war NOW"
>>16219071I want that big bitch (raptor)
>>16219061are they filming a documentary? why are there two cameramen with massive cameras
>>16219071both merlin and raptor look way bigger than they are in that shot
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1798937746624631249
Next launch July 4
>>16219082same interview the >>16217871 came from
>>16219091I do not appreciate the implications of this
>>16219068I liked Tim's Starbase tour series, looking forward to the interview he did with Elon this week
>>16219082sure it can survive reentry but can it survive a sledgehammer attack?
>>16218471
https://x.com/AlecStapp/status/1798880702080950569>Number of employees, Boeing: 171,000>Number of employees, SpaceX: 13,000>Market cap, Boeing: $117 billion>Market cap, SpaceX: $180 billion
prediction: thunderf00t has livestreamed his last starship launch and he'll decide that it's too boring from now on
I know we're all excited about the splashdown of starship, but now it's time to focus on all the shortcomings this flight has demonstrated. first of all the Raptor engines is still extremely unreliable and prone to RUD. and second Starship ALMOST burned up during reentry. This will take years to iron out.
>>16218471Landing IN the moon or ON the moon? Big difference. That's the point.
>>16219121kek
>>16218248lmao
>>16218720it's flap-CHAN.
>>16219150NTA, but -sama is gender neutral, and you will treat her with the respect she deserves.
>>16218268I waited 6 years to post this, perhaps I expected more (you)s lol. well still worth it.
>>16218268>>16219160(you) deserve more, i remember when you told you where going to do this way back. We need more anons like you.
>>16219160fast-moving threads where everyone wants to talk about the thing that just happened are pretty much the worst to get your own original content over
>>16219160Too big and we were all too giddy after yesterday's launch to give a fuck about retarded seethe.
>>16219160post it again later, too much stuff happening right now
>>16217656>>16218653Found it, will post to /wsg/ once the video is done webmizing or whatever you call it.
>>16219061>nuke marsHoly based
>>16219079Of course they're filming historic shit for their corporate reels.
>>16218268there are a few of these where the posters are making some decent points. especially the one where the guy's bashing BFR for relying on carbon composite tanks and the one saying nasa would never allow it to replace SLS.
Staging (not my thread but lets not split)>>16218956>>16218956>>16218956
>>16218724true but I think they could get away with reusing the name since those missiles are no longer in service and they were never known about by a huge number of people to begin with. jupiter sounds more impressive than Saturn since jupiter is larger. it would be a good mask of the anemic performance of sls.
I shall have the honor of having the 1000th post here
>>16219206there have been rumors that boeing wanted to rename it delta v
>>16219160/sfg/ is already 6 years old?
>>16219188lol you retard
>>16219232or thereabouts. t. made a couple of the first threads, and the first proto-threads before that ("large launch vehicle discussion")
>>16219160i agree with you but you should have posted it a bit later once the afterglow had cooled down.
>>16219169>>16217656>>16218653here it is:>>>/wsg/5578108
>>16219275>SUGEEE SUGEEE SUGEEE
>>16218268Oh no no no
>>16217930Probably didn't heat the header tanks too much
>>16218268Absolute Chad
Space Pioneer has now raised over ¥4b (= $550m)https://finance.eastmoney.com/a/202406063097512949.html
>>16218649Mega Moon Rocket
>>16218903Yup, as enthusiastic as Elon is getting, there's no way the programme managers and NASA liaisons are going to be happy if they blow up their only OLT
>>16218268i'll give you one. based grudgeposter i kneel
>>16219070>nuclear warCalm down, hippie
>>16218268Oh jeez
>>16219003I agree, this is why we need to use their exceedingly based thread
>>16218548kek
>>16218842>>16218728>>16218734>don't fucking talk about fight club you fucking retardI knew there was something behind these videos...spill the beans, faggots
>>16219460I thought Starbase was just for testing? Won't HLS and the tankers launch from Florida?
>>>/wsg/5578108FURAPPU IKITERU
>>16218602This is a KSP general, deal with it
>>16217385as of yet untested:Orion:>heatshield>life supportSLS:>Block 2 BOLE SRBs, needed for delivering some parts of gateway to NRHO>Block 2's upper stage, the EUS, functionally doesn't fucking exist, at all; thanks boeing (ICPS cannot deliver some parts of gateway, too low dV)GSE:>new tower still coming together too slowly for Block 2Even with all the upgrades Block 2 was supposed to get, they still couldn't get down to the moon with SLS anyways; but it's becoming more and more likely that Block 2 will never exist and Block 1B will have to suffice.Both the HLS and Blue Moon landers require multiple refueling flights from as-of-yet unproven rocket systems - though seeing as starship has technically expended enough dV to reach orbit twice and blue origin has yet to put a single milligram of anything at all into orbit there's a pretty big gap between how close they are to having functional depots (and blue still needs to figure out zero boil-off hydrogen storage too omegalul)
Can any anon help me out with getting a way to download the full official spacex stream from yesterdays launch? Ive tried everything i can think of but nothing will give me a link to get it.Someone mentioned twitter x video downloader for a browser add on, but it just redirects to an online downloader which won't see the video on this linkhttps://x.com/SpaceX/status/1798689697184764071i cant find the official stream posted to youtube without some faggots mumbling their worthless extra commentary over the top of it, or id download from there which is easier.thanks!
>>16220069can't you just use yt-dlp
>>16220069https://x-downloader.com worked for me. 1.12gb 1080p file.
>>16220078Wouldn't know how well it works if you're not using adblockers out the ass, but worked for me.
>>16220069>>16220074yeah, yt-dlp works
>>16220074>>16220082i'll look for that on linux thanks>>16220078ok great, that site is working. Thanks for that anon, its coming down now.could stream at 224p yesterday and looking forward to seeing the booster land and, of course, to see the Glorious Flapenning in HD. What a thing that was.
>>16220118it's bundled with mpv and also packaged standalone in all the major package managersit's also packaged for windows
>>16220120>packaged standalone in all the major package managersi see one called youtube-dl which seems to be the same kind of thing. will try it if the current download doesn't work out. Thanks guys, was starting to wonder what to try next!
>>16220136youtube-dl should be the older version, last I checked it was abandonedhttps://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp