/sci/ - Science & Math

>>16189558
What does that picture have to do with a "launch to mars"
It's just listing different examples of orientation control

>>16189558
Yeah, I love learning new things about it

>>16189558
Space travel and the like no, but stuff like quasars, magnetars, pulsars, methane rain in Saturn, and other extreme conditions present on other planets are interesting and cool

>>16189558
Of course it is but ultimately, everything is just too far. Its like licking ice cream only its behind the window and you lick the glass. Sure you can spend your life watching those ice creams via telescopes but... to be there, see it all with your own eyes, discover endless worlds with god only knows what in them. So yeah.

>>16189657
You learn almost nothing but fake things about it

>>16189558
"space" is only interesting to child-like intellects enchanted by the idea of flying like superman (le weightlessness!). In reality there is absolutely nothing worthwhile to see or do out there besides set up weapons and spy satellites to aim at the earth.

>>16189714
>spaceflight advances
>R&D for surface bases and stations increases
>self contained life support modules become more advanced and economical
>you can now buy a fission reactor in a shipping container
>you can now buy a partially automated machine shop in a shipping container
>you can now buy a partially automated hospital in a shipping container
>Can now go totally off grid with moonbase tech

>>16189714
Managed to disprove a sarcasm detection theorem from, well, my own intuition but also from reading this post.

>>16189558
what we know of space is very boring, thats why finding life in space and space colonisation are the most popular topics. if i would be 100% sure that there is no life outside earth and we couldnt do more in space than sending a man to the moon, then i would care about space as much as i care about the antarctic.

>>16189558
Where Venus? Can’t terraform Mars without it.

Bump

>>16189558
there's a mountain that probably looks like pic related on Io. Yeah it's an artist's concept, but here's what the actual image looks like
https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/Vault/VaultOutput?VaultID=50682&ts=1716225568
So no, I don't think space is boring.

More interesting proposal to me.
Artificial moon and solar energy from Venus.
https://astrobiology.com/2022/03/cloud-continents-terraforming-venus-efficiently-by-means-of-a-floating-artificial-surface.html

https://phys.org/news/2023-07-scientists-feasibility-power-venus-atmosphere.html
Hydrogen exports economically from Mars.
https://phys.org/news/2021-10-mars-colony-hydrogen-factory-propellant.html

>>16189695
did /pol/ tell you that or a youtuber?

>>16189714
wrong, I also like the geopolitical and economic aspects of space

>>16189558
Space became boring to the average person throughout the 70s to 90s as better and better understanding of its inescapable vastness and sterility filtered down to the lowest level.
Space was sold to the public as The Jetsons and Star Trek. A rich, fertile new frontier to conquer, teeming with myriad possibilities for direct, living, human engagement.
The reality that it's probably just centuries or millenia of remote controlled robots, progressively bigger and more sci-fi telescopes isn't as exciting, and completely-dependent-on-Earth proof of concept habitats like the ISS or the imagined Moon and Mars bases.

>>16191410
Based fellow cloud city enthusiast.
Given that a breathable atmosphere is a lifting gas at the 50km altitude that has 1bar pressure, gases like helium could provide even more lift.

>>16189558
>is the endless span of nothing that separates conglomerates of matter interesting?
no.
space is the literal personification of emptiness.

can someone explain how it's possible for humans to leave low earth orbit

>>16191795
Step 1: get to LEO
Step 2: turn on your rocket engines
Step 3: go somewhere else

>>16191795
Elon musks plan for Starship would launch the mass of the Burj Kalifa every six months. You can build and fire whatever you want wherever in the solar system you want at that point.

>>16191924
elon makes an awful lot of empty promises