/sci/ - Science & Math

5/10, op and edition name feel unrelated + op is just trump but nasa in background. couldve been a better trump picture related to spaceflight if u wanted to make a trump op.

>>16105888
the mods will ban him for the Trump OP btw

>>16105890
There's another trump thread that's been up for 15 days

>>16105888
Donald Trump is individually responsible for the Artemis program

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-memorandum-reinvigorating-americas-human-space-exploration-program/
>Beginning with missions beyond low-Earth orbit, the United States will lead the return of humans to the Moon

Unbeatable Boeing

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WUk7iDZqjrY

>>16105888
I've always loved how happy he looks in this pic

>>16105909
Now thats a good OP image, make it Space Force Edition and you have a 10/10 OP right there.

>>16105890
Trump has and will always be spaceflight related

>>16105914
Should be the Mars flag. Or 4ASS

>>16105928
Trump is not spaceflight related himself. Talking about Trumps achievements IN spaceflight is spaceflight related i.e. Artemis, Space Force, not impeding SpaceX like current admin. That type of discussion would always be allowed but political ramblings about muh Biden immigrants is not.

>>16105897
Thats not really something you want to be remembered in history for. If only Artemis didnt use SLS and instead SpaceX roggets it would be perfect

>>16105946
He can fix it after he is reelected

>>16105950
Id hope, for his sake. If nothing gets done it would be a stain on his otherwise good reputation for spaceflight at large.

>>16105962
Think about who he was working with in term one. He had to personally protect Big Jim from Shelby's wrath for even a drawing of Orion+ICPS on Falcon Heavy. Demoting SLS to capsule booster, replacing it with Falcon Heavy for Gateway and Europa Clipper, and using Starship for HLS was the best he could get past the Senate.

>>16105946
>putting humans back on the moon isnt something you want to be remembered for
maybe you don't, but thats undeniably a huge legacy. starship or not SLS can do it too.

>SLS is good
Not loving the shape of this thread. RUD on pad?

So, yeah. This is supposed to happen:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41526-024-00363-x

>>16105967
Its retards like you that proliferate the wasting of tax payer money on stupid useless government managed projects that could be done for far cheaper in the private sector. Stop using all our money to pay your cronies and bureaucrats free wages with your pork barrel gravy train politics you cowardly rat.

>>16105655
ESA with SLS's budget would not be able to produce an SLS, the EU's 'geographical return' is all the worst aspects of oldspace dialed to 11

https://europeanspaceflight.com/cnes-boss-blames-contractors-for-ariane-6-being-too-expensive/

Soyuz is allowed to refuel, we will meet live at 11:50 Moscow time
A new satellite, Resurs—P No. 4, is being sent into orbit today. He will observe our planet – explore natural resources, control environmental pollution, search for a mineral deposit, assess the state of the ice situation, monitor emergencies.
Launch from the 31st site of Baikonur - at 12:36:45 Moscow time.

>>16105946
>Thats not really something you want to be remembered in history for.

What an absolute retard.

>>16105981
so it's a spy sat

Why is /sfg/ suddenly infested with SLS trannies? Is it because we're back on page 1 that redditor newfags are invading?

>>16105986
It would be this >>16103760 anon

>>16105979
doesnt change the fact that Artemis will triumph and land on the moon before you chink bastards ever do (if ever)

>>16105988
>Everyone who doesnt like SLS is a chinaman
Its not trannies, its glowies. You played your hand too quick nigger, and its also obvious youve been samefagging. Hang yourself, doesnt change the fact that the SLS porking is so obvious that anyone with half a brain can say that Starship in its entirety shouldve been chosen, not just HLS

I love all rockets. We should unite and share technologies and build more spaceships. I wish I was spaceship myself being launched into space what an excitement journey

the wumao has overplayed his hand and is flailing in an attempt to change the topic from him

>>16105981
So that's a spy satellite. Hope for another Roscosmos moment

>>16105988
Will Triumph in leeching resources that could be productively spent.

>>16106008
SLS was always going to get funded because of Senate graft. Shelby was willing to torch the whole manned space program to protect it. Artemis at least gave it a purpose and forced Boing! to actually finish building it.

>>16105988
>if you hate SLS you’re a chinaman!
Hello nufaggot, crawl back to whatever shithole you came from

>>16106013
>attack Artemis
>get called out
>deflect to SLS

see >>16105997

Musk should be made dictator for life of earth
On mars he will be the Elon of Mars

>>16105909
This will be the first flag on Mars and the rest of the world will do nothing but seethe

>>16106034
can this be the second

>>16106017
>worshiping entrepreneurs
I bet you would suck steve jobs aids riden cock too if he was still alive.

>>16106043
Steve jobs was a faggot

>>16106043
I would

T minus 1 minute

>>16106048
Korolev

>>16106050
this one is better

>>16105981
good to see Russia launching scientific payloads for peaceful research purposes

>>16105972
I kinda feel like the next step in the powerpoint space race is making stuff in KSP to "prove" that it would totally work in real life if they got eleventy billion dollars.

>>16106045
Then you're perfect for each other.

>>16105886
>we gaaan
What's the van zanten moment in space industry?
The brazil space program snafu? the russian N1? The space shuttle disasters?

Next Starship flight when ?

>>16106089
5 weeks

>>16106089
2,5 fortnights

>>16106050
POCKOCMOC has better coverage than most launch providers.

>>16106088
Shepard pissing himself.

>>16106092
sexy

>>16105972
>3 Commodes
Who under the age of 80 unironically uses that word for toilet? Or is that actually some regional shit like soda vs pop vs coke?

>>16106122
What is the "soda vs pop vs coke" of spaceflight?

>>16105972
Appalling. Insulting. Distasteful!

>>16106002
>three of the six sensors
>upside down
That's some high-tier ork quality.

>>16106131
astronaut vs cosomaut vs taikonaut?

>>16106122
Texans say commode and water closet. Outhouse, too, if it’s literally outside.

>>16105890
Trump victim complex.

I can see why /sfg/ is dead. This general sucks ass now.

>>16106137
suit up and EVA to the outhouse. Don’t shit yerself, son!

>>16106137
I'm in Texas you mong. I have literally not heard that word used in years, except for referring to the C64 as a "commode door".

Happy Easter!

>>16106146
Well I can really only speak for Houston and the southeastern hill country area—but a lot of Mexican restaurants and ice houses have it posted on the wall or on the door to the shitter. It’s usually written more than it is spoken out loud. “Water closet” is pretty common anon; idk where in Texas you are.

>>16106153
Yeah nah, around here in Alamo land you're more likely to see this on the door.
And "water closet" is britbong speak.

>>16105886
>in less than a year
Not from scratch, they couldn't. The lead time for a new rocket engine is several years minimum. And the Prometheus engine is not ready. Maia is NET 2025Q4

>>16105652
I think you're referring to this interview
https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/alain-charmeau-die-amerikaner-wollen-europa-aus-dem-weltraum-kicken-a-1207322.html

His excuse bad, however that's just because he has to invent some kind of excuse that the average person can grasp. The average person does not understand the concept of economies of scale. They think cost is perfectly linear to number of units because that's how it usually works when they shop at the grocery store. Nor do they understand concepts like first mover advantage, funding R&D with margins on sales and having customers pay for iterative testing. Most peoples' idea of how R&D works comes from the Iron Man movies.

Note, he says reusability might work if he could get 30 launches per year.

>>16105668
On the contrary, they have a very clear vision of the market and see that there are no openings. The Americans and Chinese are moving in on a massive scale and with first mover advantage. Their preeminence in the market will be defended by the deep war chests of American megacorporations and the American and Chinese governments, and there isn't much hope for a European latecomer who can't secure similar backing. Amazon's Ariane 6 orders are a temporary anomaly caused by delays to the launcher they really want to use. Ariane 6 only had about 5 guaranteed payloads per year, so a 11 launches per year aim was pretty ambitious.

>What they need to do is go all in on payloads.
And what if American launch providers or government decides to rugpull them? Should they go to the Indians?

>>16105597
>in less than a year
Not from scratch, they couldn't. The lead time for a new rocket engine is several years minimum. And the Prometheus engine is not ready. Maia is NET 2025Q4

>>16105652
I think you're referring to this interview
https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/alain-charmeau-die-amerikaner-wollen-europa-aus-dem-weltraum-kicken-a-1207322.html

His excuse bad, however that's just because he has to invent some kind of excuse that the average person can grasp. The average person does not understand the concept of economies of scale. They think cost is perfectly linear to number of units because that's how it usually works when they shop at the grocery store. Nor do they understand concepts like first mover advantage, funding R&D with margins on sales and having customers pay for iterative testing. Most peoples' idea of how R&D works comes from the Iron Man movies.

Note, he says reusability might work if he could get 30 launches per year.

>>16105668
On the contrary, they have a very clear vision of the market and see that there are no openings. The Americans and Chinese are moving in on a massive scale and with first mover advantage. Their preeminence in the market will be defended by the deep war chests of American megacorporations and the American and Chinese governments, and there isn't much hope for a European latecomer who can't secure similar backing. Amazon's Ariane 6 orders are a temporary anomaly caused by delays to the launcher they really want to use. Ariane 6 only had about 5 guaranteed payloads per year, so a 11 launches per year aim was pretty ambitious.

>What they need to do is go all in on payloads.
And what if American launch providers or government decides to rugpull them? Should they go to the Indians?

>>16106159
>Most peoples' idea of how R&D works comes from the Iron Man movies
kek

Delta V
d e l t a v
v d e l t a
v d l e t a
v d l e a t
v d l c a t
v d l c a n
v u l c a n

Let us say Planet Nine is an ice giant 8x more massive than Earth, what would the surface gravity be, approximately?

>>16106166
real schizo hours

>>16106168
i'm actually high af rn

>>16106162
>reusability might work if he could get 30 launches per year
But you don't get to 30 launches per year without already working on reusability.
>hon hon hon

>>16106166
Will never forgive Tory for not continuing Delta just to get this name

/sfg/ - shitter formalities general

>>16106167
idk. 10-11 m/s^2

>>16106172
why does oldspace do these rituals with the rocket costumes

sfg/ shitting my self shiting myself shiting myself general /

>>16106170
He won't get 30 launches per year even with reusability. Because
(a) there is a trend toward vertical integration of launch provider and payload provider for the big constellations (e.g. SpaceX), or incestuous ties between them (e.g. Amazon and BO)
(b) as a European launch provider, he won't get American government orders, and no Chinese orders whatsoever
(c) launch tech keeps moving forward, and his reusable rocket wouldn't be competitive by the time it is finished, at least not for a sufficiently long time to recoup costs (e.g. Starship and NG will be better)

>>16106172
why does it have such thick lips
is this the american worshipping thing again?
lmao

>>16105981
>monitor emergencies
I can think of one emergency that might be of particular interest for the Russians, one on the southwestern border

>>16106183
>lips
those are supposed to be teeth, anon.
i'm afraid you're clinically retarded, it's terminal.

>>16106183
those are teeth you dumb butt

>>16106185
don't look like teeth to me

Let's say I am in the Int Space Station and I ate a quarter cup of mustard. what are the implications scientificaly speaking ?

this is teeth? come on now

>>16105946
Most people will just remember astronauts getting to the moon. They won't care about the project management intricacies and engineering details of how those astronauts got there. If anything, people who will credit Trump with Artemis will also say he was the one who got SLS "back on track" and "salvaged value from Obama's mess"

>>16106177
au contraire

>>16106190
Objective evidence of mental impairment

>>16106191
>two rows of teeth in the middle
>insides of the mouth to both sides
that they were too retarded/low budget to make the inside of the cheeks a darker color doesn't not make what you're looking at teeth.
you guys are blind.

>>16106167
I'd say it'd have less than 1g at its surface, like Uranus. Depends on the density.

>>16106183
I think they’re supposed to be teeth
>>16106180
>there is a trend toward vertical integration of launch provider and payload provider for the big constellations (e.g. SpaceX), or incestuous ties between them (e.g. Amazon and BO)
NTA but this post, either purposefully or inadvertently, made me realize how stupid Neutron is. Beck is trying to sell New Tron as a “dedicated Constellation launcher” which I guess implies that RocketLab intends to make profit from everyone and their mother wanting their own constellation & needing a ride to orbit. But that’s clearly not happening! (As you said, the market seems to be trending toward everyone independently launching their own self-owned constellation) What’s more: if constellations truly were the future of the market (which Beck seems to be banking on) then why wouldn’t RocketLab just make their own constellation?!

>>16106191
these are clearly lips, I’m confused?

>>16106200
considering the in-house satellite manufacturing capabilities they have acrued over time, i doubt they're very worried.
it's still a solid launcher regardless even if it's mostly optimized for LEO, and they have the capability to pivot and start making their own constellation if they get no outside demand.

rocketlab was very smart in diversifying and not just sticking to launch business, anyone going into the space market now should not be putting their eggs into one basket if they have the money to help it.

>>16106201
>i'm retarded
yes, we know
>haha i was pretending to be retarded
yes, you're retarded, we know.

>>16106197
why not just have one line like this?

>>16106183
Those are teeth you obsessed tranny

>>16106202
>they have the capability to pivot and start making their own constellation if they get no outside demand.
What would be the business case for such a constellation, considering the state of the competition?

>>16106204
because now it deadass looks like weird lips, and I think the person who cobbled this together needed to force it to look like teeth because they needed it to be white, as the viewing port is cut out right behind the mouth area
Thus you get the weird lines on the side—to further showcase that they are TEETH. Not lips. This also explains why they didn’t color in the sides (because the person inside the suit needs it to be white so they can see)

>>16106208
A whole psychoanalysis on a strawman suit builder for a fucking children’s rocket costume. Bravo.

>>16106194
What would happen to my internal organs?

>>16106204
bevause then it wud look like lips knumb nuts

>>16106193
to be fair, that was a labpadre guy, not condoned or participated by spacex themselves

>>16106215
it already looks like lips

>>16106204
are you truly so fucking retarded that you can't visualize mouth cheeks?

>>16106205
The suit reminded me of this

>>16106208
This is the most cohesive, intelligent post I think I've ever seen on here

>the mouth on a fucking vulcan costume has become the object of debate/a new meme
the collective insanity is reaching critical levels, starship launches are like a drug that makes everything else too boring and not worth discussing.
this general is suffering form withdrawal, starship should have never been built.

>>16106205
>>16106222
Wait, are they lips???? Not look like teeth

>>16106183
that’s supposed to be his nose

>>16106204

>>16106220
SHUT THE FUCK UP NIGGER IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE LIPS

>>16106228
>the USA flag is the mouth
What the fuck dude

fuck this shit, i'm going to bed.

>>16106204

>>16106233
>lips don't look anything like the teeth on the ULA rocket
what was the point of this post?

also fuck gamefreak, that thing should have stayed coal black.

>>16106235
the point was that if you take away the side accents, the teeth inadvertently look like lips a la the pic I posted

thought i take a swing at it

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>>16106237
look at it's smug, soulless eyes, it knows you the taxpayer is going to have to subsidize it's useless existence, and it loves it.

>>16106239
this one must've carried an israeli sat

if i went to mars id bring my steam deck on the ship and play simcity 4, listen to simcity 4 ost for 6 months in total peace

>>16106199
It's actually kind of crazy this could be the case. Surface gravity is so mildly scaling, even super-earths are habitable.

>>16106183

>>16106250
soneome please fix this misinformation. teeth must be coloured white

>>16106249
we really should just build a giant shell around uranus, imagine the sheer amount of living space.

>>16106238

>>16106250
>ULA rocket hungers for blood and killed someone to death with it's bare teeth

terrifying.
you shoulve drawn trails of blood coming down the open mouth, off the teeth.

>>16106252
like what i build a glass ceiling in minecraft to keep the rain out

Does the Lunar Gateway offer any objective benefit over a lunar program that dispenses with it?

>>16106256
more pork for oldspace

>>16106254
Are you implying those aren't in fact lips?

>>16106238
Until what?

>>16106261

>>16106260
only a total retard would draw this and think they're lips.
clearly this is a terrifying genocidal rocket now.

Greatest country in the world

>>16106134
>taikonaut
nice try

>>16106264
Maybe SHE (yeah it's fucking a girl) just has running lipstick? She is sweaty at the club and crying and dripping

>>16106134
are europeans called estronauts?

>>16106270
no one knows because euros cannot into space

>>16106191
blame calarts

>>16106134
For me, its vyomnaut

>>16106280
are they gonna gang rape this thing on-orbit?

>>16106265
>37 launches
>36 successes
>0 failures
Is this some autistic shit over IFT-3?

>>16106275

>>16106287
Yeah. It's labeled as partial success

>>16106287
IFT-3 is an undisputed success

>>16106250
gibs me dat contract

>>16106162
The Ariane 6 is supposed to replace both the Ariane 5 and Soyuz-ST. Eleven is the max flight rate of the Ariane 5 (seven) plus the max flight rate of the Soyuz-ST (five). There is exactly zero ambition in that number.

>they could see that there are no openings
Pre-SpaceX there were a lot of commercial payloads flying on the Proton-M, and if you go back a bit further there were still more launching on the Zenit-3SL through Sealaunch. What Arianespace felt was that while there were more payloads to be had it was pointless to try and compete for them. This is exactly the same thought that ULA had when looking at Arianespace back in the early 2010s. Total unwillingness to try and compete with your competition is the best possible definition of a lack of ambition and vision.

>>16106287
Test article, not production rocket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiZd5yBWvYY
>I Swam at NASA's NBL to Observe a Lunar Spacesuit Test - It was AMAZING - Smarter Every Day 296

>>16105981
>A new satellite, Resurs—P No. 4
new, in that they redesigned it from previous Resurs to use completely domestic parts. Probably a post-Ukraine mandate

>>16106256
Every country you can rope into the project to build an airlock, robo arm, or solar panel is another voice that can bully congress into continuing to fund moon missions.

>>16106287
It’s considered a partial failure by Wikipedia

>>16106343
Theses space suits are ugly as hell, apollos EVA were comfy and looked based

>>16106282
it comes with a sharpened iron rod and is programmed to beg for death in several Indian languages

>>16106312
kek, das rite

>>16106376
They were only comfy from the outside.

>>16106140
The /sci/fication of /sfg/ is complete, you can thank the anti-anime autist who threw tantrums everytime someone posted any image with anime in it

Drove off all the old guard of /sfg/ with his constant drama.

>>16106249
Keep in mind Uranus is probably mostly water by mass and has a thick gas envelope.
A better comparison is between Mars and Earth. Mars is 1/9th the mass and has 3/8th's the surface G. A terrestrial super earth with 9x Earth's mass and roughly Earth's density would have about 2.5 Earth g's at its surface.

>>16106343
>Bringing back this shitty cart again that Apollo 14 discarded and never looked back

we're clear for exit -

>>16106015
>>16105997
>>16105988
Hey retard. I specifically called out SLS in my first post >>16105946 it literally says that as the main focal point in the second half of that message. You glowies really need to learn that misconstruing a part as the whole doesnt work when only the part has been targetted. Go ask your manager to retrain you, because this is just god awful work.

>>16106088
(nearly) Nauka headbutting the ISS

Fuck, man. I just can't wrap my head around how fucking obsessed people are with decrying Musk.

>>16106433
Some of them lost money betting against him. The rest hate him because he deboonks some narrative that they cling to. This ranges from schizophrenics claiming he's the Antichrist to plebbitors hating him for not being a super lefty.

>>16106433
the really really obsessed ones are the ones that are culture warriors and hate him from that perspective AND also lost a bunch of money betting against him through direct betting or shorting his stocks.
teslaQ generated a large amount of people with EDS that have made it their life long mission to try and impotently slander anything he's involved with.

>>16106436
>>16106446
Yeah, some guy I saw was even saying that SpaceX is a pure failure. Absolute mindbreak.

>not pressurizing your electronics

Could you imagine what an underice Europan colony would be like? Do you think it would be one big vertical elevator to go from the surface, then down to the colony layer, then down to the ocean? Or would it be more of an angled elevator with a big platform to transport lots of stuff up and down from surface to colony?
Also, what would the walls of the colony be made of if not the bare ice? Would it be a metal or wood or something else? Id imagine metal may not be the best material due to their high thermal conductivities both melting the surrounding structural ice and making the entire colony a freezer but Im not sure what other materials could be feasibly used.
When you get down to the ocean layer, do you think there are any fish we could import and breed there to have a stable 'farm' of food in the (obvious) case that there is no life there? Im not 100% sure but isnt the salinity of the ocean supposed to be super high? Im wondering if that leaves any room for farms in the ocean or if colonists would have to make their own lakes near the colony in order to start large scale aquaculture.
Also, how would the colony be stabilized in the ice? Would it be massive auger bits that would anchor the entirety of the structure of the colony but then how would melting ice affect the beams in both embrittlement of the metal and displacement of the support and its effects on the colony.
One final thing, how would plants be grown in this colony? Could artificial light be used maybe but then where would the power come from? Id assume nuclear right? I mean theres so much water there that it would only make sense since you wouldnt have to import so much or would you set up massive solar farms on the surface and run cables down to the colony.

I wrote a telluric Planet 9 expedition chatbot thingy. It's sort of a beta still, feedback needed.

https://c.ai/c/dXpUOBe697KsitijBUtzPGgcnhr9VEWYcjbJMfl6x7M

>>16106472
Definetly a virus, thanks but no thanks.

>>16106470
wood? you want 2 by 4s be shat space-side to end up on a potential alien habitat? bruh...

>>16106474
Im asking questions on purpose anon.

Did the triple header happen?

>blue origin's culture is "think tank", not "startup"
perfectly describes everything wrong with them

>>16106470
It would be horrible pitch blackness the second you were out of line of sight of the surface. There will be enormous domes over holes carved in the ice to illuminate the layers below, actually a lot like Z'ha'dum from Babylon 5. These false color cross sections are making Europa seem a lot more welcoming than it is.

>>16106289
I'm not going to read all that

>>16106473
it is, in fact, character ai share link format
https://character.ai/chat/dXpUOBe697KsitijBUtzPGgcnhr9VEWYcjbJMfl6x7M
>>16106475
I don't think most of your questions are warranted. Pretty sure ice sheet is moving, so you either build something or have something to off road it, so to speak. If you can install an elevator, no point in having it at an angle, most likely. Fish are out of the question. Only thermo vent trash could possibly survive there and you cannot just contaminate everything. Colony placement depends on the function. Habitation would be silly, there's cylinders for that.

>>16106485
People still use character ai? I thought everyone moved on to tavern or angai

>>16106493
"people" is a very broad term. Nerds known as anonymous moved on since it doesn't offer cooms, but the model will be soon updated and I think it's worth to keep a presence in case of a young yt scenario.

tory confirms that the only problem with DIVH is that nasa doesn't understand how to pump n2 through a pipe

>>16106472
I ain't clicking that shit nigga

>>16106515
Vibrant Diversity at work.

>>16105986
stupid frogposter

What is Tory thinking?

saw a chaika image in the wild and had a blast from the past
anyone else remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiZd5yBWvYY

new nasa video from this homo

>>16106138
not a statement on the correctness of that action, just an observation of the past
it appears I was wrong

>>16106515
GN2 at the cape is contracted out to Air Liquide SA.

https://usa.airliquide.com/air-liquide-and-nasa-renew-agreement-kennedy-space-center
>Air Liquide Large Industries U.S. LP today [August 14, 2013] announced that NASA has renewed its agreement to supply nitrogen and related pipeline launch support services for NASA’s current and future space programs. Since 1968, the Air Liquide plant has provided personnel, materials, and gaseous nitrogen at Kennedy Space Center and Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida.

There have been some issues with them in the recent past

https://spaceflightnow.com/2022/04/24/nasa-sls-artemis-1-return-to-vab/
>Meanwhile, teams from Air Liquide will upgrade the gaseous nitrogen supply that leads into the spaceport through a pipeline. NASA found that the nitrogen gas supply was not sufficient for the high demands of the Space Launch System, a rocket larger than any other currently flying from the Florida spaceport.

https://spacenews.com/cape-congestion-worlds-busiest-spaceport-stretched-to-its-limits/
>Petro described a challenge the center faced supporting the Falcon Heavy launch of USSF-67 from Launch Complex 39A in January. Delays in the launch of Artemis 1 from the center had postponed planned maintenance of facilities run by a contractor, Air Liquide, which provided commodities like gaseous nitrogen needed to support the launch. The lead engineer for Air Liquide “was getting really nervous about maintenance, safety and risks associated with the system going down, that was going to impact this national security mission.” Ultimately, SpaceX brought in its own equipment to provide gaseous nitrogen to support the launch.

That said, it's not immediately clear if the current problems are due to AL, the fact that a lot of the Cape is still running on infrastructure from the 1960s, or the fact that Cape Canaveral is busier than it's ever been and its commodities support is getting badly overstressed.

>>16106533
mwee

>>16106183

>>16106531
beans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGTM8zJybsc
>Wow! SpaceX Is RACING Towards Starship's 4th Integrated Flight Test! - SpaceX Weekly #108

>>16106533
haha yeah good stuff

>>16106556

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1774509145531576584?t=c9ZG0ljML3ox0qyWGi1JAQ&s=19
Rogozin's dick status?

>>16106597
lmao

>>16106597
Obliterated. Completely blown into pieces and scavanged by wild animals on the Ukranian font. He's currently having a prosthetic.

You don’t hate journalists enough

You think you do but you don’t

>>16106597
Tranified

yknow, i didnt hate russian spaceflight before. was only saddened at how far they had fallen, but rogozin is really pushing me over the zigger hate line and i dont even like ukraine or jewlensky. hoping putin gulags him so russian spaceflight doesnt have that absolute lolcow tumor equivalent hanging around.

>>16106611
i really just have to ask whos still falling for the helium-3 meme.

>>16106616
He has been irrelevant in Russian spaceflight fo years now

>>16106616
it's for the good of humanity that they must be exterminated

>>16106599
kek

>>16106619
eeh there's plenty of anons here who think rods from god isn't a meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNJTWGQ_p18
>Orbital Launch Mount Repaired for Next Starship Flight | SpaceX Boca Chica

>>16106597
Why are Russians such subhumans?

>>16106634
Let me be a door gunner for the starship.
PLEASE!
I promise I'll hit all the space-rice farming peasants be they bezos or chinese.

>>16106636
seems like the hoses are fixed now

>>16106647
>>16106636
im watching this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiQARQKVbF8

>>16106649
Thank you anon

>>16106649
thank you for your brave sacrifice

>>16106616
russia is god's end funniest mistake after india
it's only natural you start to despise them after being exposed to their subhuman antics for a while, slava ukrainer or not.

>>16106649
get an ad

>>16106704
poojeets are catching up really fast. allot of them are subhumans but with a population of 1.3b coming from asia thats kind of expected. the ones that arent subhumans are the only hope of that country. the rest is stuck 1000 years in the past eating and bathing in cow piss and shit, scamming people for their money because they cant get a job, etc etc. their caste system existed for a reason.

Why does China have so many rocket variants?

Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy can do what 90% of these rockets can do

>>16106597
I hate niggers so fucking much

>>16106723
How many of these are actually real and not on paper or some CGI powerpoint?

>>16106723
Most of these are basically variants of each other with significant parts commonality. The CZ-2 through 4 series are all derived from the DF-5 ICBM and the CZ-7 and 8 series are very similar.

>>16106725
Wow, that's so rude.
Do better.

>>16106723
isnt it crazy that almost all of these are falcon rip offs? and ripping off falcon is what gets them to the second most powerful country in space? just a testament to how revolutionizing f9 is, sad that they cant even get their starship ripoff done by 2040 though

>>16106723
The LM-2/3/4 are plug-and-play combos of two booster stages (L176 & L186) and four upper stages (L15, L36, L54, H18) with some Ariane 4-style LRBs. They're all built to the same diameter tooling (3.35m) and aside from the hydrogen-fueled H18 they all use the same propellant and modifications of the same YF-20 engine.

They also suffered from a bit of the Soviet impulse to take a basic launch architecture (the R7 / 8K71) and then produce a whole range of variants of it customized for carrying specific payloads.

>>16106619
Ahhh so I’m nta but i’ll oust myself as a retard:
I know lunar helium-3 mining is seen, more or less, as a reddit meme on /sfg/; but I’m not entirely sure *why* that is. All I know is that popsoience champions lunar helium-3 mining as some sort of “future of space industry”
But evidently this is just a scam because… it’s not really concentrated on the Moon compared to anywhere else? Do I have that right?

Is the ISS REALLY in space if it’s just in the ionosphere barely above the F2 layer?

>>16106754
It's not just the low concentration, it's also that you can produce Helium-3 on Earth from fusing deuterium, and deuterium is in seawater, or is produced in water moderated fission reactors. This makes mining the moon for 3He extremely silly because if you have D-D fusion you can also do D-3He fusion with the exhaust products and more D. The atmospheres of Jupiter and Saturn are abundant sources of both D and 3He but their absurd distance and gravity make mining there scifi at best.

>>16106765
>>16106754
This is not even mentioning how underdeveloped the fusion industry and its reactors are, they can barely get a net positive energy output as it is. Just making the fuel cheaper doesnt change the fact that the amount of transport and refining and mining costs to get the shit off the moon into a reactor just to be some universities test subject and not actually generate any money means that it just isnt a good way to make money. This in itself is ignoring the MASSIVE effort and funding required just to get a lunar economy going, with mining being another thing all together. Theres just too much prep work and funding needed for too small a market that doesnt even intend to make money with it.

>>16106765
Jupiter's gravity makes skymining completely impractical until after you've got the kind of scifi engines that make it nearly obsolete. Saturn's smaller gravity well makes it a lot more practical, if you're willing to put up with stupid long shipping times to get the fuel back into the inner system.

>>16106754
imagine trying to harvest something at a concentration of fucking 50 ppb

>>16106770
why bother with retarded helium mining that takes forever and is highly dangerous when titan is literally right there and we all know that methalox will reign supreme for the next 50 years at minimum with starship and its variants?
meme drives will literally only start being used when interstellar travel gets seriously considered.

>>16106531
>I am a real cowboy and I am a real CEO. I work for a real launch provider. It's not just some government subsidy made manifest. I AM HIGH ENERGY AND GOD DAMN IT PEOPLE LIKE ME!

>>16106747
Aren't all these soviet tech hypergolics rockets?

imagine if apollo had continued

will spacex ever get sovereignty over their martian colony as the us isnt the ones going there with nasa? or do you think the us will pull some legal loophole out of their ass to claim that the colony is their property even though spacex would have basically made everything themselves from the ground up? im not sure if they can due to the outer space treaty of '67 saying that no national appropriation by claim of sovereignty, especially with it saying NATIONAL appropriation and not private appropriation. though the us could always be a backstabbing rat as usual and just pull out of the treaty and do whatever they want.

>>16106816
kill yourself immediatly footnigger

>>16106782
The lowest grade operational gold mines are ~.5 ppm or 500 ppb, but of course they don't operate on the fucking moon and their product is literally gold.

>>16106824
the good things about gold and helium is that they're both pretty easy to isolate

>>16106760
No it isn't, only the exosphere is space

>>16106820
they will be under the jurisdiction of the US as long as they aren't

>>16106842
Shouldve been thermothads.

>>16106816
revive yourself immediately footchad

>>16106844
can you finish your sentences please. this makes no sense.

>>16106858
at first they will be, then they won't be
simple as

>>16106853

>>16106864
This makes me want to go to space even more

>>16106864
>>16106866
see >>16106821

>>16106869
Wait, you don't like beautiful women? Oh wait yeah I forgot, Trans visibility day. so your tranny I guess

>>16106871
dilate projecting troon

>>16106873
oof. your a tranny confirm :/

>>16106878
>>16106871
>footnigger degenerate
>emoticons
>actually knows what day 'trans visibility day' is
>oof
yup projecting troon AS I SAID. gtfo YWNGTS

>>16106880
oops forgot to add YWNBAW and go join the 40%, absolutely disgusting degenerate footnigger deviant

>>16106747
none of these are falcon 9 ripoffs

>>16106887
FakeX shill btfo

>>16106747
>>16106730
these are the Long Marches, not the start-ups
>>16106801
not quite
hypergols were domestically developed (CZ-1 to 4)
their kerolox is mostly RD-120 derived (CZ-5 to 8)

>>16106544
>not a 10000x10000 transparent png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiZd5yBWvYY&

>>16106914
isnt this the pseud that thought he was saying something smart to a bunch of nasa employees in a presentation but was really just stating the obvious?

>>16106880
You know about trans day? tramny :(
troony

>>16106649
He knows the milking game, all of his redditor audience are lapping it up

>>16106914
>>16106924

I haven't watched this boomer in a while is going full doomer?

>>16106965
no he went full schizo and became an ayy truther. thats basically his entire audience now.

>>16106965
>>16106987
Does he have any full on schizo videos?

>>16106140
Yep, why would I post here when the quality of post is
>you’re Chinese if you don’t like Artemis!
I bet that faggot doesn’t even know about red dragon or the problems with moon to mars mission architecture

>>16106996
all of that dogshit started because trump was put in the op btw.

>>16106965
Last I saw he was in the boogie-woogie content about massless/propellentless drives and interstellar alien Amoyamoya probes.

>>16107001
Is it that Trump OPs attract retards or the people that make Trump OPs are the retards in the first place.

>>16107004
porque no los dos?

>>16106533
The great autism days

>>16106965
Hes right you have to be a complete retard to think were going to mars in the next 100 years

>>16106616
Tbqh the invasion of Ukraine resulted in him being replaced by a much more competent man so he’s completely irrelevant now. He was literally “promoted” and then nearly killed by a suspiciously precise artillery strike, and his replacement has reversed almost everything dimi was known for

>>16107016
lets hope next time they dont miss then

>>16107004
Considering the Artemis apologist is the OP, both. Imagine saying the best thing trump did for spaceflight was Artemis and not appointing Big Jim

>>16105909
Creating space force was actually an inspired move on Trumps part. WTF was the impetus for it though? It doesn’t seem like a brainwave that would could Trumps way normally…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fM7DJ3Zdck

>>16107021
DoD was the impetus

Why don't we have fission fragment rockets yet?

>>16107021
It wasn’t trumps idea, the space force has been on the docket for literal decades and was first proposed in IIRC 74. If anything space force should have started 5 or so years earlier. Letting trump take all the credit for it was probably a smart move though, but it means normies perform outrage about it all the time.

>>16107042
>why doesnt x meme drive exist yet
because humans are retarded

>>16107049
But the whole point is that we can do it with current technology.

>>16107042
>>16107051
stupid frogposter

>>16107042
dumb frog/fruitposter

>>16107042
Test Ban Treaty

>>16107051
>>16107042
intelligent froghaver

>>16107048
>normies perform outrage about it all the time.
There was a ton of this in 2019 but normies seem to be over it now. They act like the Space Force always existed.

>>16107042
intelligent toad/vegetablehaver

>>16107055
Seethe more pedo fag

>>16107042
The American nuclear industry is being choked out by regulation.

>>16107074
I understand boomer o&g tycoons, progressives, etc. have royally cock-blocked nuclear from a power production standpoint, but why is it gatekept for space travel as well?

We were robbed

>>16107077
That one japmutt physicist made his name convincing Americans that reactors on spacecraft would end all life + there’s a lot of treaty regulation on nuclear fission in space. Blame boomers for having a sky is falling attitude towards nuclear power

>>16107078
bunny ear ass gridfins

>>16107083
Michio Kaku or something. Two bombs were not enough.

>>16107042
I....I really don't know :/

>>16106820
>will spacex ever get sovereignty over their martian colony as the us isnt the ones going there with nasa?
Imagine the civil war against Britain back in 1776. If they are on Mars, they are their own world unless there is active transport back and forth. If Mars becomes self sustaining, they can cut agreement from Earth any time they want. Unless Earth sends military to Mars to disband the government, they can do whateva they want.

>>16107092
As long as the colony is not truly self sufficient, Earth will have the upper hand. That was another lesson of the American Revolution, and why Americans still drink coffee instead of tea 250 years later.

>>16106747
Wake me up when they actually launch those powerpoint ripoffs.

>>16107101
tory wants a cock in his mouth clearly

>>16107104
All of those are active. The 5 is their big launcher and the 2F is their Shenzhou crew taxi.

>>16107101
Omfg they really are lips

>>16106820
No, because if SpaceX has literally an assets on Earth, then they are liable to Earth laws. If they try anything with independence, then all of their assets get seized.

>>16107108
then where are the powerpoint ripoffs?

Neptune and Triton

This image was returned by the Voyager 2 spacecraft on July 3, 1989, when it was 76 million kilometers (47 million miles) from Neptune

(Credit: NASA)

>>16107124
Fascinating picture

>>16107124
incredible image. i wish wvb couldve seen it

>>16107124
DSN failed

>>16107125
>>16107127
>>16107128

>>16107124
Non Premium 4chan Pass peasants can't view this image, lmao.

>>16107124

>>16107042
funny meme macros aside, Fission fragment rockets are a narrow branch of an already narrow branch of fission rockets.
The cost of maintaining an electromagnetic field of the strength required is just too extreme.
No one is going to argue against the the THEORETICAL power of these rockets. But once you plug in all the bullshit required is just too much.
Thermodynamics is a nigger.

>>16107142
Fuck off with AI spam.

>>16107145
?

>>16107124

>>16107136
real
>>16107142
AI
>>16107152
AI
>>16107151
real

>>16107145
is this a new /sci/ spambot or something that i dont know about yet? i saw this image in a different /sfg/ but didnt know its ai spammer.

>>16107156
i dont post ai

>>16107160
>>16107151
>>16107142
off topic hit the three dots to get rid of this tranny

>>16107162
the dolphin is space adjacent

>>16107162
>the three dots
phoneposters am I right?

>>16107164
im both on my pc and my phone when posting to /sfg/ just depends on whats more convenient. if im busy doing homework or playing a vidya im on pc. if im doing anything else im on mobile. usually just say whichever im on but switched just now back over. also good job pinpointing my age group kek.

>>16107164
i'm a phoneposter and i cant even find the dots
>>16107169
how do i get rid of this tranny

>Yes, I also have a question for you, idiots: why do you always write about ass? If you mean mine, then I have it in perfect order. I was wounded in the right shoulder and neck, I underwent the operation normally and already in January 2023 I returned to the front to kill your degenerates. I've already interrupted a lot.
based rogozin colony dropping the haters

im assuming everyone knows that a plush shark is something that nigger troons always have after they get their twig and berries chopped of correct?

>>16107177
Source? Sounds like shit you just made up

>>16107152
im pretty sure this is a scrotum btw

>>16107177
Anon, you might be deranged

>>16107175
I’ve said it before but the way in which the Russian language crudely translates to English just cracks me up. I love the way slavs phrase things.

>final Delta IV Heavy will launch just a couple hours before the eclipse

>>16107189
Heres hoping it blows up. Solar eclipses are considered a bad omen anyways so maybe my wish comes true.

>>16107189
The eclipse will scrub

>>16107186
I like how thin skinned they are, absolutely zero chill. Rogozin could have said
>actually the incident improved my ass, I can fart a lot more powerfully now

>>16107177
I remember the troon with his emotional support shark. I think he killed himself later

>Now targeting Monday, April 1 for Falcon 9 to launch @Starlink satellites to orbit http://spacex.com/launches

Is this a joke?

250 something countries and only 2 have successfully jump started their newspace economies: america and china

the solar system will have 1000+ countries some day

>>16107177
that's not even a shark, it's a dolphin

>>16107223
every man a king

There are no oxygen-atmosphere planets within 100 light years

>>16107219
>Ooops, got wires crossed, launched IFT4 instead.

>>16107223
i could only imagine the retarded land wars that belter scum would have meanwhile Cerians sits around and eats them all up as they infight, simultaneously being fought off their planet by Jovian insurgents, who are all back on Jupiter having their own retarded wars about who controls the trojans.

reminder that Artemis 3 will land 2 people therefore there will only be a nigger and woman.

>>16107256
>no mars
??????????????

>>16107258
Mars is the main antagonist during the campaign Titan Rising which takes place during the First Colonial War of 2238.

It is unknown if Mars will be a playable faction.

>>16107260
why is mars always portrayed as the badguys in media??

>>16107262
WAR

>>16107262
It’s literally called mars dumbass

>>16107264
and yet every bad person in history came from earth. really makes you think.

Europa became the fifth colony to be established. Tereshkova colony was founded in 2098 on the edge of the Clix crater deep beneath the ice. The vast underground oceans provided a source of water for the production of fuel that would later support the expansion in the solar system. During this expansion Europa colonized Tethys and Titan.

During the First Colonial War of 2238 Europa became the first to sign the Colonial Expeditionary Pact and declare its independence from Earth. The Artemis refueling station in orbit around Jupiter became the location of the first conflict in the war. Europian special forces destabilized the stations orbit killing 38 people from Earth, Mars, Luna and Ceres.

>>16107256
>terra
>luna
SOVL
>tethys
cringe søy wars

>>16107237
Don’t need ‘em

In 2034 humanity colonized the moon with the creation of Armstrong colony with an initial population of 326. The first child born away from Earth was on September 27, 2035. As commercial flights became cheaper and safer Armstrong colony started to grow rapidly to tens of thousands. Advances in bone and tissue manipulation ensured generational survival to those born in low gravity settings. By 2084 Luna declared itself an independent state and worked in harmony with Earth ensuring valuable resources were sent to the home planet. During the First Colonial War of 2238 Luna became the second to sign the Inner System Defense Treaty (ISDT).

>2034
Soon

>>16107267
What the fuck is Europian forces, everyone knows its Europan.

>>16107275
more like Europeean

Ceres was colonized in an effort to rapidly replenish resources used during the colonization of the Moon and Mars as well as to provide resources for further colonization of the Sol system. New mining, habitation and interplanetary technologies were created for the colonization of asteroids. Initially Ceres and Vesta were colonized but Vesta suffered a catastrophic power failure in 2075 resulting in the death of all its colonists. By 2082 there were a total of 40,000 colonists residing in Ceres and it became known as the lifeblood of the Solar System. During the First Colonial War of 2238 Ceres joined the Inner System Defense Treaty (ISDT) as the fourth signer.

The absolute state of Vestafags

>>16107037
been watching this. all the nasa people describing sls and comparing to shuttle have a strange insincerity and depression in their voice

>>16107269
>tethys is soi
how come?

>>16107287
Søy wars death star moon. The only reason it gets any attention is because of that.

>>16107287
It's the lamest world

Cassini colony was founded in 2145. Much like Titan its colonists originated from Europa and became known as the second proxy colony of Europa. Upon colonization Earth declared trade and travel sanctions on the outer colonies in an attempt to limit further expansion. During the First Colonial War of 2238 Tethys became the third to sign the Colonial Expeditionary Pact.

>>16107295
Why dont you shut up with your stupid fanfic retard

>>16107292
that would be Meme-as

>>16107298
shit looks like it got nuked by the death star instead

>>16107297
Pluto became the third proxy colony of Europa with the establishment of Drake colony in 2153. During excavation of the colony a new material, Ti-82, was discovered which would revolutionize space faring technology. This caused tensions and sanctions with Earth leading to the culmination of the First Colonial War of 2238. Pluto became the fourth to sign the Colonial Expeditionary Pact (CEP). It supplied large amounts of Ti-82 to Europa for the war effort.

Pluto's faction starting technology and buffs are yet to be announced.

>>16107302
I bet you got a tight bussy

big

>>16107306
Me after I finish shitting in the water closet

>>16107305
moist ass nigga. you sound ZESTY

>>16107308
The semicircle is starships hull. Is the interior circle the airlock? Or perhaps an internal elevator or set of stairs? Just wondering why it’s positioned so weird

>>16107312
Yup, airlock should be as small as possible

Clearbros...

>>16107323
???

>>16107328
>>16107323
Krystal finally killed her.

>>16107312
>>16107314
And it's still bigger than the Apollo era Grumman Lunar Lander's interior volume all by itself.

Is blue origin going to do anything soon?

>>16107342
Are you asking this seriously.

>bought CHUCK right before it started crashing
Alright, see you guys in another life.

>>16107342
yes

>>16107353
Back to >>>/biz/ retard. Hope you get rugged more and kill yourself so I never have to see your shit here again.

>>16107358
retard

>>16107262
same (((reason))) the Nazis are

pump $WOJK

Hit the arrow on the namefag everyone. You know the drill.

>>16107403
retard

pump $MYASS

>>16107414
KEEEEEEK

>>16107403
huh

>>16107461
The three dots for mobilefags

>>16107462
are you retarded

Another thread derailed

>>16107472
For you

>>16107178
>>16107183
It’s not the right toy, but he is right that there is a plushy that trans people buy:
https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/ikea-blahaj-shark
>On Tumblr, BLÅHAJ gained an association with the LGBTQ+ and transgender community in particular, which is reflected in multiple memes posted on both Tumblr and Reddit in the late 2010s … an official advertisement by IKEA in which BLÅHAJ was used to express support for LGBTQ+.

>>16107323
https://twitter.com/clearusui/status/1774632602533773556
WTF Clearbros, She was a man all along??

>>16107323
Never heard that one before. Owachatta?

Took a dive to figure out it's a contraction, and means someone regrets something is over.

I want to go to Mars to KILL BRITISH SOLDIERS

>>16107519
total jeet death

>>16107508
Clear browses /sfg/ confirmed

>>16107101
>yellow line on tory is traced over literally nothing
thanks for proving you're retarded lipnigger
they're teeth

Worst esefgee this year?

>>16107556
apart from the retarded lipposting? yeah.

>>16107518
しまう or ちゃう is pretty commonly used
for example, a "shotgun wedding" is called できちゃった結婚

>>16107556
let's hope so

>>16107551
The yellow is the outline of tory's lipmouth. Are you fuckin dumb?

Starship to the Moon

>>16107569
I want to rape her stupid smile off her

>>16107302
>>16107295
>>16107278
>>16107272
>>16107267
your timeline gay

>>16107255
They always use white people to safeproof spacecrafts first.

>>16107573
What if she refuses?

>>16107256
>fafrlonltiienrg
???

>>16107583
GRAPHIC IS MY
DESIGN PASSION

>>16107256
I'm so sick of B&W logos.

>>16107562
you're fucking retarded, those are very clearly teeth to anyone who's not visually impaired/retarded

Dune pt2 is overrated and so is Arrival. Rendezvous with Rama better be good, Mr Villeneuve

>>16107582
that's the spirit!

>>16107594
I think...I think you might genuinely be autistic. Why do you think Tory is clasping his lips that way? He is obviously immitating the LIPS of the character Vulcan costume

>>16107596
nobody cares

>>16107601
i can tell you smell like shit based on your response. why do dune fans always smell so bad? my theory is cheeto dust mold in your jelly rolls

>>16107596
I read the Dune when the movie was announced, but once they revealed the cast, I immedietaly lost my interest.

>>16106556
at this point they should be aiming for one launch every 2-4 weeks if they intend to reach the moon by 2025-2026.

>>16107599
>i don't know what stylized mouth cheeks look like
i know, you're autistic and you don't know why people are making fun of you for it.

>>16107602
i didn't watch dune, nobody cares

>>16107603
Yeah, the cast is the worst part. It's like watching a Disney movie

>>16107609
You clearly don't understand basic human behavior enough to recognize faces, nor correlate artistic representation of faces with adjacent real ones. I completely understand now, you aren't retarded but autistic. Or maybe both, but I can't fault you for being born with a mental disorder

>>16107607
I know what NASA says Arty3 is happening, but Elon straight up came out and said HLS aint gon be ready till 2029-2032 time frame