/sci/ - Science & Math

>>16082818
Disease was really bad in the past. A tiny infection could end up with getting your limbs cut off because the was no way to stop it if your body couldn't do it alone. Some of those diseases don't even exist anymore because they were wiped out
>Across the later Middle Ages as a whole, your risk of dying from infant and childhood diseases was probably 15− 20 times higher than your risk of dying from plague, and your risk of dying from any of half a dozen endemic bacterial and viral infections was 4–8 times higher.
https://www.medievalists.net/2021/12/health-problem-middle-ages

>>16082818
Isn't he the guy who told Americans to cut their sons penises?

>>16082857
Yep, and one of the reasons he pushed it was because he thought it would stop boys from masturbating.

>>16082850
dying isn't hard when you spend most of your time playing with excrements.

>>16082818
I don't know what he means by that exactly. Human body is too complex for anyone to be able to control it precisely, and virtually any medication or treatment has side effects. Immune system works most of the time, but inevitably there will be one bacteria that is able to overcome the defense, and since it can divide 144 times faster than human cells the body will be overrun. You could wait hundreds to couple hundred thousand years and hope someone will survive and develop immunity, but it is cheaper to face yeast with that one nasty bacteria and repeat until you get a strain that survives by producing some antibiotic. Still, after antibiotic treatment your body has to clean the bacterial residue, and has to withstand the side effects of the treatment. Bacteria and microbial fungi are able to live virtually anywhere, while if you culture human cells in a dish (with antibiotics) a single drop of non–sterile water is enough to get them overrun with bacteria.

>>16082818
Given that medical error is the leading cause of death, you are better off avoiding doctors and other medical scyentists at all costs because they are more likely to harm you than help you

A patient complaining of a sore throat goes to see a doctor, after examining him, the doctor says
>Your tonsils have to come out.
The patient says, "I want a second opinion."
So the doctor says,
>O.K.—you’re also of an inferior race.

>>16083301
Hospitals are where most people die. Thats why so many of them have a cemetery next door

>>16082818
It resonates with truth

>>16082818
Given the dismal case history of the pharmaceutical & medical industries...

>>16082850
>A tiny infection could end up with getting your limbs cut off because the was no way to stop it if your body couldn't do it alone.
Can even happen today, but maybe more rare. Life expectancy wasn't that bad in the past (infant mortality exempt but that's on nutrition and hygiene).

>Wild animals survive without the aid of doctors and scientists
few do, if their wound isn't serious enough. Others die due to infections

>>16082850
thats just propaganda the academic establishment, slapping itself on the back for curing a bunch of made up diseases that probably never existed to begin with. the same historians who claim that life expectancy used to be short also write history books filled with people living the same lifespans that people do today

>>16086130
Well then why are you here? Why weren't you born 10,000 years ago when the population was so much higher? There are fewer people surviving infections now that when they followed God's law, so statistically you should have been born then.

Just a fluke i guess.

>>16086130
Well then why are you here? Why weren't you born 10,000 years ago when the population was so much higher? There are fewer people surviving infections now than when they followed God's law, so statistically you should have been born then.

Just a fluke i guess

>>16082850
Diseases mainly killed schizos. In fact the recovery from the dark age was likely enabled by the plague, which killed the schizos.

>>16082850
there's people who unironically think those were better days than today.

>>16086130
>you need me to survive
>t. parasitic soiyence estabilshment
thats a common form of narcissistic abuse

>>16087092
what do you expect to people who devote their lives to being professional know-it-alls?

When a species breeds out of control, another one takes advantage and fills the role of exterminator.

>>16082818
> Aristotle 62 years old
> Plato 80 years old
> Tacitus 64 years old
> Sophocles 90 years old
Etc. The "people lived short lives back then" is a hoax

>>16082857
>>16082870

We can never punish him enough in the historical memory. We must lower the public perception of him until he is regarded as among the ten most evil human beings who ever lived. Because he is.

>>16088555
They mean in terms of average lifespan, trivially. All of the diseases that remain poorly treatable today (dementia, parkinsons, osteoporosis, atherosclerosis, cancer, etc.) Had similar onsets and prognoses in the ancient world.

>>16086165
>Why weren't you born 10,000 years ago when the population was so much higher?
but i was

>>16088575
cancer is much more prevalent now than it used to be. all thanks to the wonders of science

>>16089102
Thank science for all this progress we're seeing!
Thanks for the reduced life expectancy science!! way to go!! good job!!!

>>16083973
Death is a big industry

>>16089102
Doctors give patients cancer on purpose in order to generate business for themselves. Doctors are very greedy people, thats why the main message of "an apple a day keeps the doctor away" is that avoiding doctors should be one of your lifelong goals

>>16093154
>avoiding doctors should be one of your lifelong goals
most people die in hospitals. never go to a hospital and you reduce your probability of dying massively

>>16082850
> Some of those diseases don't even exist anymore because they were wiped out
That is not true. Those diseases are still there, unable to affect well fed population with access to clean water.

>>16093976
>>16093154
True and real. Hospitals are filled with ignorance, hubris and negligence.

>>16083973
it's pretty grim if your family is like
>he spent so much time at the hospital, he must have wanted to be buried there

>>16082818
We know way more about pathology than Kellogg did, but it's still sort of true.
For what we typically think of as "disease" (i.e., virological, bacteriological, etc.) in most cases the human immune system does the curing, and the responsibility of doctors is more along the lines of "ensure this guy does not kick the bucket before he recovers". There are some exceptions though. Antibiotics, antiparasitics, and antivirals/antiretrovirals have allowed medicine to do a bit more to directly combat diseases. For immune disorders and cancer, we also have more tools in our toolbelt to combat disease.

However, by sheer numbers the responsibility for reducing casualties from disease is really just a combination of public sanitation and better hospitalization standards keeping people from getting sick as often, and ensuring they're not actively being made worse when they do get sick.

Also, fuck Kellogg. I want my foreskin back >>16082857

>>16082818
Wild animals survive without cooking their food or wearing clothes so I suggest you go and try those things to test how well that argument holds up

>>16094015
and greed

>>16082818
>People were recovering from diseases long before doctors and scientists existed.
They were also dying of diseases long before doctors and scientists existed.

>>16094260
Wild animals survive without chopping their dicks off so I suggest you go and try those things to test how well your argument holds up

I tend to not agree with the guy that proposed mutilation as a measure against masturbation

So I can tell my grandmother to stop her chemo treatment? Because her body will cure cancer itself.

>>16097092
Yes, because somebody on a Mongolian cartoon website posted an image of a misrepresentation of a quote from a guy who started a cereal company.

>>16083301
you take that back
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hvRoX959WIBH/

>>16082818
I mean ... By the most pedantic, autistic standards, he's right. The doctor/scientist doesn't cure you. They recommend a treatment and your body responds to it by curing the disease.

But an idiot would read the quote and think "haha, st00pid eggheads i dont need ur vax" and think that they have magical powers to cure any disease, inside of them.

Education is important, folks.

>>16083301
>medical error is the leading cause of death
It isn't though. It's not even close. It's not even -a- leading cause of death.

Why would someone just make shit up on the internet? lmao

>>16082818
go get HIV and report back.

>>16097254
>go get this fictitious made up disease
also get a pet unicorn