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I believe entirely dismissing phrenology as a pseudoscience is more because of the sociopolitical implications of it, rather than because it is objectively false. I think there's some truth in it after all, as anthropology regularly discusses a correlation between cranial space and average IQ in different populations.

>> No.16061346

>>16061288
It's totally false, but they still use it secretly to judge people. But it's false. It's oiyright bizarre when you really think about it. Why would the shape matter?

>> No.16061355

>>16061288
The human skull as an infant is different than the human skull as an adult because it needs to be small enough to exit a vagina. Then bones fuse as the cranium gets larger. Our increased brain size is literally a result of evolution, but discussing consequences of brain and skull differences is phrenology and outdated pseudoscience. Likewise when we say men and women have different brain structures (women have higher white matter densities and men have higher gray matter densities), that's just convergent evolution creating two different and totally equally capable brains. When we observe multilingual people having higher white matter densities than monolingual people, that's also evidence of convergent evolution and equal brains. Women having higher verbal intelligence than men is purely social and environmentally influenced you see.

Oh, but trannies have the brain of their opposite sex and there's nothing we can do about it but modify their bodies and change society in accordance with their bad luck to get the wrong brain. But remember, male and female brains are totally equal. That's why we need to modify the tranny's body to conform to their sex specific brain, which is equal to the opposite sex brain in every way except physiologically.

Understand?

>> No.16061362

>>16061355
nice blog. who do you think is going to read it? you think we some eggheads or something?

>> No.16061396

>>16061355
The Neanderthals had brains that were the same or bigger, but their face kept growing with the skull, while ours stop.

>> No.16061681

>>16061288
just do mri scans of a million random people catalogued by their iq, wealth, police record and many other metrics. Then let some AI extract correlations.

>> No.16061927

>>16061681
Already happens. AI started going after...
What -is- the term for that hair black people have?
Anyway, predictive AI started treating people with that hair as criminal.

>> No.16062492
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>>16061288
phrenology is real af
ugly people are always mentally inferior

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What's the best brain shape for evo-maxxing? For me it's toroidal. Donut brain best brain

>> No.16063848

>>16062492
Thats why nerds are so bad at science

>> No.16063921

Phrenooogy is still used, just not endorsed. Dig deep enough into the IQ community and you can find phrenology again.

>> No.16064716

>>16063921
i have a paper in my PDFs which shows a connection between physical fitness and intelligence and proves that wimpy ugly nerds are also low IQ.

>> No.16064748

>>16061927
>the term for that hair black people have?
nappy

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>> No.16065824

>>16061288
I had a biological psychology course once for gen ed. The professor shared an interesting factoid: the ratio of lengths between your pointer and ring fingers is related to your prenatal exposure to testosterone in the womb. Men typically have longer index fingers relative to their ring fingers, while women typically have more 1:1 ratios. Women in STEM (steam now I guess) have ratios more similar to men.

So tldr at least palmistry might have something going for it

>> No.16065835

>>16064716
>people who don't exercise scoring less on a test =/= people who exercise are smarter
You're one of the low IQ people you mentioned.

>> No.16066052

>>16062492
>ugly people are always mentally inferior
they're all corrections officers at the heart.

foul nigga smoothbrain and girl are the same thing. they're just stuck like that. disloyalty is ugly.

not sure if on topic but what is it called when you can see the devil in someone's eyes

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>>16061288
The real problem are jews. Either that vermin gets exterminated to the last spawn or civilization will collapse.

>> No.16067202

>>16065835
you're too lazy to exercise and thats why you're low IQ. being physically fit gives you a higher base metabolic rate and having a higher base metabolic rate makes your brain work better because the brain works by burning calories

>> No.16067334

>>16061355
Crystal

>> No.16067453

>>16065824
It's the other way around but yes this is true.

>> No.16067499

>>16061362
I'm a huge legislator and seeing this paragraph from a 4chan incel has made me change my entire platform

>> No.16067960

>>16067202
lol, so if im 800 lbs and eat 20,000 calories a day i must be pretty smart, huh?

>> No.16068738

>>16067960
you're low iq

>> No.16068740

>>16061288
>I believe entirely dismissing phrenology as a pseudoscience is more because of the sociopolitical implications of it,
Of course it is. Science is just a power play, and since the liberals currently have the academy captured, they get to claim their dogma as scientific fact.

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>>16068740
That is academia, not Science. Science is based on reasoned doubt, academia is just a power play.

>> No.16068914

>>16068738
Not as low IQ as you

>> No.16069126

>>16061355
Nobody says men and women's brains are the same.

>> No.16069183

>>16061288
I'm gonna need to see your head before I take your opinions on this seriously

>> No.16069269

>>16069126
Quit your neurosexism, misogynist
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00677-x
You need to get up to date on the settled neuroscience
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/feb/24/meet-the-neuroscientist-shattering-the-myth-of-the-gendered-brain-gina-rippon
Because that model has been thoroughly debunked
https://neurosciencenews.com/male-female-brain-debunked-18276/

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>>16061288
Phrenology is pseudoscience!!!!

>> No.16070496

>>16061288
there's a science to faces. Beautiful people are more happy and smarter and better overall. If someone is ugly on the outside they're ugly on the inside. People will screech but deep down they know I'm right. Also skin color but I'm not sure how that works really since we're all one race, the human race.

>> No.16070504

>>16061346
>Why would the shape matter
the shape of face is mostly determined by genes. why should it be totally decoupled from other characteristic that also determined by genetics?
a gene or a gene cluster doesn't just determine a single attribute of a human.
maybe phrenology isn't predictive enough to matter practically in real life but outright saying face shape doesn't tell anything about a person is totally wrong.

>> No.16070820

>>16061288
Phrenology fell into disrepute in the 1840s while racism was still very much a thing. I don't think anyone has been able to revive it in the way Nietzsche revived physiognomy in Twilight of the Idols. As a very handsome man, I see ugly people -- the typical burger /pol/face, for instance -- as stains on the gene pool.

>> No.16071259

>>16070820
>/pol/ lives in my head rent free
>i can't think about any topic other than how it might relate to /pol/

>> No.16071274

>>16068753
Wrong. Science is reliant on an enlightened aristocracy. "Reasoned doubt" just leads to flat earthism.

>> No.16071564

>>16070504
Partially true, but face appears to be mostly a nutrition signal in people, and phrenology got it outright the wrong way round: A more robust face appears to imply higher intelligence and overal health than a more diminished face.

>> No.16071588

>>16071259
I'm a /pol/ poster, retard.
I just hate ugly burgers.

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>>16071274