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Red and processed meat intake and risk of cardiovascular disease: A two-sample Mendelian randomization study
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S240545772400038X

>Conclusions
>This MR study demonstrated no significant causal relationships between red/processed meat intake and the risk of the four CVD outcomes examined. Further investigation is warranted to confirm these findings.

>> No.16049240

>>16049211
Why edit the conclusions?

>In conclusion, our MR analysis, utilising large-scale GWAS data, did not find a significant causal association between genetically predicted consumption of red and processed meat, including pork meat, mutton meat, and beef meat, and the risk of coronary artery disease, atrial fibrillation, heart failure, or stroke. These findings suggest that the consumption of red and processed meat may not be a major contributor to the development of these cardiovascular disease outcomes.

>> No.16049244

>>16049211
>proves
How to say you know nothing about science without saying you know nothing about science.

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>>16049244

>> No.16049673

>>16049653
aw look it's upset

>> No.16050767

>>16049211
Good news for us steak eaters, but remember we've ignoring all the fake science that says steaks are bad for you since the 20th century.

>> No.16050777 [DELETED] 

What about mRNA gene therapies and cardiovascular disease? Are those studies in yet?

>> No.16051079

What the fuck is “ Genetically predicted red and processed meat consumption”

>> No.16052228

>>16050777
Yes, mRNA gene therapies cause cardiovascular disease

>> No.16053603

>>16052228
they also cause cancer

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>>16053603

>> No.16054055

>THIS IS THE PROOF THAT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH 100 OTHER PROOFS

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>>16049244
>oh no, he used the colloquial word "proves" instead of "provides evidence"
>therefore I can totally ignore the study he posted
>another internet debate won

>> No.16054604

>>16051079
it's a way to say "we aren't looking at the pesticides and shit that may get into red meat" while sounding pro-red meat

>> No.16054605

>>16049244
the number of science communicators and PhD corporate shills using the word "prove" to add authenticity to their junk science is staggering.
I don't see why OP can't do the same shit.

>> No.16054614

remember that nutritional epidemiology is a junk science that shouldn't be given a single shred of credibility.
whatever they say (eating red meat is good/bad/causes cancer/cures cancer...) should be ignored, their papers should be thrown into the trash and their credentials discarded and ridiculed.

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>>16054614
Steaks don't cause heart disease, the vax is what causes heart problems

>> No.16055996

>>16054614
Eating steaks prevents cancer, thats already been proved

>> No.16057335

>>16052228
>>16053603
good
vaxxxie holocaust best day of my life

>> No.16058310

>>16055342
Soiyence is always trying to scapegoat everything except soiyence for causing heart disease when in reality soiyence is the primary cause

>> No.16059554

>>16049211
>Further investigation is warranted to confirm these findings.
Do I get free steaks if I volunteer to become one of their data points?

>> No.16060865

>>16055342
Thats not the only medication they've invented that will destroy your heart, just one of many

>> No.16061914

>>16059554
where do i sign up?

>> No.16062505

>>16061914
This but unironicially

>> No.16063789

>>16049244
Read the paper, they conclusive prove that there is no link between eating meat and getting cardiovascular disease

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>>16063789
>noooooo!!
>i'd rather believe some bullcrap i saw on CNN
>real science that actually published in peer reviewed journals is fake, only MSM propaganda is real

>> No.16065788

>>16049211
If they did a similar study investigating sneed oils they would get different results. Sneed oils cause heart disease

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>>16063789
they'd rather ignore the paper because what it says hurts their feels

>> No.16068412

>>16065788
This, the sneed oil industry (colloquially "big sneed") has been blaming innocent steaks for their own crimes for ages. Thankfully science has now proved whats what.

>> No.16069554

>>16067010
Yeah its an absolute crime when science contradicts lame television memes about steaks being bad for your heart

>> No.16070089 [DELETED] 

>>16068412
the sneed oil industry has an army of paid shills that post on /sci/

>> No.16071295

why can't sneed oils be used as a fuel source instead of using them to poison people?

>> No.16073024

>>16071295
Because of the white genocide agenda

>> No.16073634 [DELETED] 

>>16060865
Statins are designed to dissolve your brain

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>> No.16073654

>>16049211
Red meat is healthy sorta(if clean) and processed usually means light pasteurization. We know ox-LDL causes CVDs, and LDL are more likely to become oxidized under repeated heating and exposure to air. Already with this fact, the article is disingenuous.

>> No.16073663

>>16073024
>white genocide agenda
anon.. are they really gonna genocide me?

>> No.16077887 [DELETED] 

>>16073654
you don't know any of that

>> No.16078535 [DELETED] 

>>16049211
Thats good news, thanks science

>> No.16079846 [DELETED] 

>>16073654
nice try, but it wouldn't have been published if that were the case. everyone knows you're lying.

>> No.16080948 [DELETED] 

>>16073654
>i'm smarter than trained professional specialist scientists
no, you just have a massively oversized ego

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>>16073644
stop being racist

>> No.16083448 [DELETED] 

>>16073654
>LDL causes CVD
nope

>> No.16084419

>>16073663
yes

>> No.16084459

>>16054605
How hard is it to just say what the study actually says than say that the study proves something?

>> No.16085564

>>16049211
Vegans will see this and then go right back to shilling the big lie that eating meat is unhealthy

>> No.16085697

>>16073654
Fucking imbecile. You think the endogenously produced lipoproteins in your blood come from the meat?

>> No.16085757 [DELETED] 

>>16049211
Define "proves"
Define "study"
Define "no relationship"
Define "disease"

Yup, you're a fucking nigger alright.

>> No.16086910

>>16085757
the n word is racist

>> No.16087666

>>16084459
The study conclusively proves that red meat does not cause heart disease, why does that upset you so much?

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>>16055996
>eats steak regularly
>incredibly intelligent and successful
>physically fit, mentally sharp and completely healthy in his late 70s

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>>16049244
Don't worry kiddo, we are not going to take your bugs.

>> No.16090104

>>16089169
He recently won a gold tournament than was for 50 and overs, he is healthier than most people a quarter century younger than himself, all thanks to eating steaks and avoiding alcohol

>> No.16091867

>>16090104
alcohol is a cancerous poison
https://www.jta.org/2020/07/08/food/the-forgotten-history-of-jews-in-the-alcohol-industry

>> No.16093211

>>16085564
they use confirmation bias because they are dishonest people and they are dishonest people because they are atheists

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>> No.16095550

>>16094928
50% of all people are below average IQ.

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>> No.16098430

>>16052228
That has long since been proved, Pfizer even admitted it