/sci/ - Science & Math

Source: https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1765037578343121372

Where will it explode this time?
I'm confident it will make it to orbit and burn on reentry

>>16059375
It will crash into a Chinese spy balloon while reentering.

>>16059375
They never seem to progress more than 1 step past the previous

>>16059367
Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually

This is going to be the MOST IMPORTANT LAUNCH since apollo 11. I explain, if starship fails again, all artemis program is gonna be FUCKED UP and possible cancelled. Itd mean that China will be the firts country to land on the south pole of the moon, and that would be the most embarrasing moment in NASAs history. The whole World will see a chinese flag on the moon in 4k for the firts time, and the apollo missions will be totally forgotten (even for a lot of people itll be the firts moon landing ever because apollo 11 was fake) and for the public/normies China would surpass the US in terms of space exploration.

So the status of United Stated as a nation depends on this launch

>>16059424
>muh china panic
yeah youre new here i can tell

>>16059424
not really

Only people who were posting "2 weeks" on February 29/March 1st may post in this thread

>>16059430
anon I've been posting two weeks every day for years now

Elon's an idiot. He's meeting Trump down at Mar'a'Lago. Tying his horse to a guy getting rat fucked by the courts left and right is peak autism.

>>16059430
Ive been posting "two weeks" since 19th november

>>16059369
>>16059367
B-BASED

1 WEEK

>>16059424
Even if artemis is "cancelled", it wont matter, SpaceX will still go on its own independent journey.

>>16059433
NOOOOO YOU SHOULDN'T MEET WITH THE PRESIDENT!!!!

>>16059438
Ex-President.

>>16059444
Ok zaddy

>>16059424
>firts
>firts
>firts
>Captura-de-Pantalla-28.png
Diego, eso te digo sinceramente y sin querer despreciarte: lo que quieres escribir es "first".

>>16059444
NExt-President.

>>16059375
It would have made it to orbit last time if they hadn't decided to vent. I predict it will make it to splashdown

>>16059424
Puta madre ijo de mierda pinche maldito vete a la verga pendejo

>>16059424
lol no, this is going to be yet another iterative test launch where they get a bit further, perhaps as far as belly landing and propulsively landing with SH in the ocean
but they will still have to do more test landings at sea, more iteration of propellant transfers (that is going to be an iterative process as well each flight from what I gather), they will have to fly the streched v2 starships and so on
I would say this is less important than IFT-1 and IFT-2
getting away from the pad and staging seem to work, starship also got most of the way to orbit so getting actually orbital is not far off and I would kind of be surprised if they didn't
but if they didn't then just test more
there is nothing critical about this test launch in particular, you don't understand SpaceX approach to development

>>16059470
If they successfully land in the ocean/complete reentry then next launch license comes MUCH sooner since there is no incident report

>>16059375
Starship loses telemetry before bellyflop is complete
Booster ends up landing in a bellyflop or FTS activating during landing burn due to bad attitude

>>16059477
well yes but that doesn't make this launch the most important one
I expect failed water landings to happen after the first successful one as they change the rocket and try to make the system better and perhaps circumstances change due to weather or whatever

>>16059424
relax.

>>16059424
Honestly GO CHINA

>>16059444
Trump won, get over it

>>16059369
I don't speak Twitter. Is the time shown there my local time?

>>16059536
yes

https://twitter.com/texas_lizard/status/1764855471284883685
>#52
>
>~S T A R S H I P~

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1765280987510927414
>Nice shot

https://twitter.com/Starlink/status/1765158872904560802

>>16059424
Calm down before I shoot you down.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/05/us/politics/trump-elon-musk.html

https://archive.is/CtN8a

its not like leftists (and the Biden admin) could hate Musk much more, but this might give Musk influence over the next administration if Trump wins
maybe to cut some red tape in general?

>>16059560
Elon is pumping right wing propaganda to absurd levels

>>16059560
what, so trump can make another post about what a bitch musk is and how he made him bark like a dog?
it's amazing that Bezos and Gates learned how to keep themselves out of the public eye but musk can't help himself.

The all lower-case anti-Elon posters strike again.

>>16059573
I'm not anti-Elon. I just don't like Zion Don.

>>16059549
starlink now has a partnership with Telstra which is one of if not the biggest telecom providers in Australia. I don't think they've started rolling out the plans yet but I think it'll be quite successful
australia has literally the worst internet in the developed world and it's bad even in comparison to the third world. because the government decided to privatised the internet to a single monopoly and then decided that fibre optics was fake news, we should use good ol copper wiring. even in the cities it's borderline catastrophicly bad, but Australia has a lot of isolated regional communities. with the new strong work from home culture and large tech or tech adjacent industries and high mean wealth, Australia is just about the ideal possible market for starlink in the whole world.
The problem is most Aussies aren't really aware of it, there's no advertising for it and the major telcos are very dominant. partnering with Telstra will likely lead to a big increase in adoption, but frankly the price is too high for most people still.

>>16059576
>I just don't like
I don't believe you.

>>16059573
Elon is based when he talks about rockets and he's a faggot when he talks about certain other things, if nothing else he really just doesn't know how to work behind the scenes and is very loud.
sorry ones, this is the year of the twos.

>>16059424
dumb spic

>>16059560
>nytimes
Fake news

>>16059580
You don't have to.

>>16059576
Zion Don is going to get credit for landing people on the Moon

>>16059578
I feel like its one of those things that you hear about if you're the intended use case. Inner city yuppies with terminal EDS don't know about the TENS OF THOUSANDS of satellites flying over their heads RIGHT NOW, while all the boomers in the bush or with a 4WD are switching en mass because of how much Starlink is shitting on the competition.

>>16059573
hey don't lump all of us all lower-case posters together

>>16059581
>I'm a two
classic five

>>16059597
however you want to frame it mate the fact is more customers is a good thing and it's a bad thing to not even be in the public consciousness as a competitor. I think they'll solve it, I already know a few people considering the mobile option so they can travel around Australia while still working.

I think they will double the number of Australian customers in two years, and it's possible they crack 500k. people only get more pissed about the NBN as time goes on

>>16059607
>everyone is a five except me
classic one.
don't worry, I'll only be extremely smug every time I'm right

>>16059615
so never?

>>16059616
he gets to pretend to be right every time SpaceX is delayed or suffers a minor setback

>>16059617
>>16059616
I'm extremely pro SpaceX and I've been here for years, no I'm not a doomer either
Sneed and feed.

>>16059623
you're a 1

>The Starship-Super Heavy test flight will originate from Starbase, TX. The booster stage will separate and will then perform a partial return and land in the Gulf of Mexico. The orbital Starship spacecraft will continue on its path to an altitude of approximately 235 km before performing a powered, targeted landing in the Indian Ocean.
RIP for Hawaiian anon

>>16059628
why are they doing this

>>16059424
Nobody cares. Even if China annexed the entire Moon it would not affect a single person one tiny little bit. They can have the moon, IT SUCKS.

>>16059367
Its happening starship bros! To the moon eoy!!!

>>16059625

>>16059635
How much

The numbers, what do they mean?

>>16059651
IQ

>>16059651
it's an old meme, I think it's an original from esefgee but it might actually come from a twatter screenshot

>>16059634
Kek that guy shitposting in the other thread was vindicated

>>16059672
I'll come back to that in a sec just trying something.

NASA, the Federal agency that kills people -- in Space! -- has graduated another class of steely eyed missile men. The class, known as "The Flies", are:

NASA's newest astronauts take to the stage during their graduation ceremony at Johnson Space Center in Houston on Tuesday, March 5, 2024. L to R: Nora Al Matrooshi (UAE), Chris Birch, Christopher Williams, Andre Douglas, Deniz Burnham, Nichole Ayers, Jack Hathaway, Luke Delaney, Jessica Wittner, Anil Menon, Mohammad Al Mulla (UAE) and Marcos Berríos.

Pick your favorite to have a Tennessee Elementary school named after them because they died on the Moon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsUBRd1O2dU
>Would a Submarine Work as a Spaceship?

>>16059724
how many of those were diversity hires?
I do hope SpaceX has their own astronauts and not some NASA ones when they get to mars, but maybe that is unavoidable for the first landing

"Your Moon Lander is just 10 stops away!"

>>16059732
me when I lie

>>16059731
Have my doubts about the Docking Adapter on a couple of those "girls" IYKWIM.

https://twitter.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1765315039844761698

>>16059743
There's true prosperity in this corp. Those in the castle at the top would be on top of us. If this state is irregular and not there, the berry is even sweeter

>>16059743
Any type... This can be amended for immersion or as is.

>>16059743
Take Zion? Definitely peacefully. In the future, even war.

>>16059736
Keep me low. More potential. Don't speak of me.

If anyone's valuable, it's me.

>>16059752
>>16059750
>>16059748
>>16059747
?

this is how it will look like when the starship will be launched. why is spaceX doing this? why they do this in the dark?

>>16059775
I will never forgive them from cucking us from explosion kino

>>16059736
kek

TWO WEEKS

>>16059804
8 DAYS

imagine thinking starship won't launch this month

>>16059424
But even if Starship v1 fails (which it will - poor mass fraction among other design flaws), there are ways to convert it to a more conservative partially reusable design.
That last part should send shivers down the spines of ALL rocket manufacturers because it Super Heavy for all we know works pretty well so they're half way there already.

The most important question:
Will IFT-3 livestream have onboard footage?

>>16059843
There won't be a livestream. Grok will summarize the video it sees trough tweets.

>>16059840
threes are worse than fives

>>16059854
KEEK

>>16059777
this video is way more kino than any possible explosion

>>16059777
Why was this explosion so tame compared to N-1?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest_artificial_non-nuclear_explosions#Largest_accidental_artificial_non-nuclear_explosions_by_magnitude

>>16059724
>>16059738
>headwrap
Sorry, leave your religion at the door if you want to go to space. Otherwise get a muslim nation to launch you, next.

>>16059935
SN11 only had the landing propellant left. When N1 5L blew up it had an almost full prop load

>>16059724
Why are there two non-NASA astronauts at this NASA astronaut graduation ceremony?

>>16059944
>>16059936
Artemis accords. arabs are building the airlock for gateway - or at least paying someone to and slapping their flag on kt

>>16059369
>have that day off

>>16059743
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1765394112503492899

>>16059971
not with Starship's C3 it ain't

2 moar weeks
https://twitter.com/wapodavenport/status/1765401717858865233?t=Pc7kcIvHXNqmmo6H2jbQ7w&s=19

>>16059651
1-5 indicating the degree of support for Elon
5 represents Jeff Bezos, Joe Biden or any other oldspace seether or actual retard
1 represents full and complete support of Elon
0 represents Elon himself
-1 represents me

When Elon claims he might colonize Mars in his lifetime, I know he will colonize other galaxies in the next 5 years and Starship will carry payloads large enough to make Chicxulub look like a fucking joke

>>16059724
>Pick your favorite to have a Tennessee Elementary school named after them because they died on the Moon.
The women, the suicide bomber and the farm equipment because they're the only ones that will go to the moon

>>16059812
说得好,兄弟

>>16059935
That wasn't Super heavy + Starship exploding at launch like N1, it was only Starship landing with almost empty tanks.

>>16059629
Hawaiian returns require environmental impact studies. They actually had to estimate how many whales they might hit during splashdown last time.

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1764896144667328704
> Dragon performed a series of burns on its way to the @Space_station, which is ~250 miles above Earth
from yesterday

>>16059756
I think Barkun took his name off

>>16059777
It was kino due to how absurd the whole thing was

>>16060013
those estimates haven't changed though, you've already done the paperwork why do it again

>>16060014
yeah no shit, that's how going to the space station works, it always does this
>>16060019
I hate fog

whos growing pumpkin and cabbage to prepare for food production in space?

>>16060030
Sugarpie and Jack Be Little varieties going into my garden this year. JBLs are good to eat, but most people just use them as fall decorations. You carve out a lid like you're making a jack-o-lantern, scoop the guts/seeds, then drop in a pad of butter and a spoonfull of brown sugar with a dash of cinnamon, bake at 350* for 45 minutes or so. They are delicious.

>>16060017
Yeah B*rkun is getting banned on sight now pretty sure, it had changed its name to B*rkon after a while and now we just see its shitty botposts under anonymous. You can tell when its him if it uploads one of the 20 photos its assigned to post.

>>16060048
I'm not willing to find out by changing my name

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55TvbIpjWZk
>New Glenn's First Tests at the Pad | KSC Flyover

>>16060048
Ive been afk for... a while. I guess I missed the latest /sci/ schizo?

oh, and speaking of, did the quantized inertia fag kill himself in shame?

>>16060063
>latest
Barkun has been here for years, anon
>did the QI fag kill himself
apparently

NOTMAR has been posted

https://www.navcen.uscg.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/lnms/lnm0810g2024.pdf

>>16060098
Notice for gaan.

>>16060098
Can they even publish one for the Indian Ocean or is it "look out below!" in international waters?

>>16059981
Oh fuck off tory

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1765437449717841991

We are officially in pending status

>The third flight test of Starship could launch as soon as March 14, pending regulatory approval.
>A live webcast of the flight test will begin about 30 minutes before liftoff, which you can watch here and on X @SpaceX. As is the case with all developmental testing, the schedule is dynamic and likely to change, so be sure to stay tuned to our X account for updates.
>Starship’s second flight test achieved a number of major milestones and provided invaluable data to continue rapidly developing Starship. Each of these flight tests continue to be just that: a test. They aren’t occurring in a lab or on a test stand, but are putting flight hardware in a flight environment to maximize learning.
>The third flight test aims to build on what we’ve learned from previous flights while attempting a number of ambitious objectives, including the successful ascent burn of both stages, opening and closing Starship’s payload door, a propellant transfer demonstration during the upper stage’s coast phase, the first ever re-light of a Raptor engine while in space, and a controlled reentry of Starship. It will also fly a new trajectory, with Starship targeted to splashdown in the Indian Ocean. This new flight path enables us to attempt new techniques like in-space engine burns while maximizing public safety.
>This rapid iterative development approach has been the basis for all of SpaceX’s major innovative advancements, including Falcon, Dragon, and Starlink. Recursive improvement is essential as we work to build a fully reusable transportation system capable of carrying both crew and cargo to Earth orbit, help humanity return to the Moon, and ultimately travel to Mars and beyond.
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-3

Someone pls decode the morse

>>16060104
you can throw them out there and civilized shipping will see it and nobody cares about the rest

>>16060117
Translation for dummies:
Musk tentatively scheduled for 3/14 because pie day XD
Mission goals: make it further than the last two tests—preferably to orbital velocity and back down to the ocean in one piece

>>16060117
that Hawaii reentry environmental study was completely pointless

but it sure made some dumbfuck bureaucrats happy

ughhh kinooo

Launch window is 7:00AM - 11:00AM. Again, mark your calendars.

>00:24:31 Propellant transfer demo
How is that even supposed to work?

They should just do a landing on a chinese village.

>>16060132
Transferring between tanks while in flight we've discussed before

>>16060132
Moving propellant from one tank to another

>>16060033
I prefer Hokkaido variety
All other pumpkins turn to watery mush when roasted. But that one is much more dense. More like a sweet potato.
Butternut is also good.

>>16060117
They are going for a full run and seeing what breaks down, then they will refine and repeat. In elonese it's 50/50 it blows up at separation again but they are still figuring out more things on stage 0 and the first stage. It will take 3 more launches before they even try a catch

>>16060145
>It will take 3 more launches before they even try a catch
>3 more
yeah no, it's not a barge and booster crashing into tower would setback the whole program by a lot. It's going to be a lot more launches before they catching anything with that tower.

>no kino reentry videos from Hawaii
>will likely not have any reentry video from external cameras or onboards
>not even sure if we will have any video at all once its in orbit

Godamnit

>>16060132
It’s gonna happen earlier actually; Propellant is transferred from potential to kinetic energy in the form of an explosion

Only on X

>>16060138
Those look like hard orange onions, I bet they're tasty though. I tried growing Butternuts last year but had mislabeled seeds and ended up growing a bunch of bananas squash instead. They're pretty okay, not unlike butternut, but yeah they're fairly watery like you say.
>>16060153
I'm not pleased either

I still dont see how this be able to land on the prongs, especially how slow they seem to move.

>>16060117
nice, its happening

>>16060145
Not a full run, the timeline doesn't show a full orbit time of >90 minutes. This either means they burn to near-orbital velocity and take on much easier re-entry heating or they're doing an insanely steep deorbit. Probably the former than the latter.
>>16060127
I bet they're still aiming at Hawaii, deorbit burn just points to the Indian.
>>16060124
Not full orbital velocity by the looks of it.

>Starship 28 slams in the Gulf of Indian Ocean after successful intact reentry and sinks
>month later several thousand Chinese fishing vessels take a liking to the Indian Ocean

Weather for 14th is .... not great

>>16060168
>Gulf of Indian Ocean
Are you having a stroke?

>>16060168
>each time they think they've located Ship 28's wreck they pull up the shuttle ET instead
>they find MH370 but tell no one because would give away their cover story

>>16060117
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1765437449717841991

>>16060172
>he doesn't know where the Gulf of Indian Ocean lies

lmao, get some maritime knowledge

>>16060168
>months later
Their entire fishing fleet is probably on route right nowkyvt

>>16059367
its so over starship sisters.... itf3 is ruined, blue orgin won....

>>16060171
>coastal Texas weather predictions
>a week out
lol
lmao

This pretty much confirms that we will have Official approval of the license next wednesday .

>>16060117
>Someone pls decode the morse
. -..- -.-. .. - . -- . -. - --. ..- .- .-. .- -. - . . -..
EXCITEMENTGUARANTEED

People ! - Poll time : How far Starship will reach in its "goal sheet" ?

1 - Liftoff with all 33 engines
2 - Successful hot stage
3 - Successful boostback burn of the booster and splashdown
4 - MECO and "orbit"
5 - Payload door opens
6 - Successful fluids transfer
7 - Raptor relight !
8 - Reentry
9 - Surviving reentry and splashdown

I predict 3 to 5 Starship launches this year.

>>16060197
IFT-1 I predicted it wouldnt make second stage, IFT-2 I predicted it would get to second stage but fail in flight, I'm predicting now that IFT-3 will go all the way through except maybe a screw up in landing burn for B10 that causes it to go sideways or something.

>>16060197
8

>>16060197
rolling

>>16060197
it's either going to blow up during the in-space relight or during reentry

>>16060197
dumbass forgot about zeros and dubs, must be a /v/ tourist

>>16060197
re-entry in Columbia style

>>16060197
>>9 - Surviving reentry and splashdown
How would we even know, there's no coverage over the Indian Ocean, what groundstation would see it that low?

>>16060197
>Successful fluids transfer
What?

>>16060210
starship sex

>>16060210
dolphine sex

>>16060206
Starship has no RCC panels (Starship needs no RCC panels)

If the shuttles can survive losing 15 to 30 so-called Criticality 1 tiles every mission..

>>16060214
Why didn't they just use superglue instead of whatever gay NASA-grade model cement they had to pay $9000+ a tube for?

>>16060005
What are you, Elon's soul?

>>16060197
6

Do you know what i think it will happen ? Everything fine until raptor relight.
3, 2, 1
...
...
"Waiting for confirmation ..."
"Raptor has not relight"
Now it will reenter in Hawaii. The WB-57 in Hawaii takes the most breathtaking images ever, a Starship with TONS of tiles off , with plasma burns almost everywhere, with a flap filled with holes and gaps (working) , but the thing still working, maintaining control leaving a trail of grey smoke behind until splashdown and final explosion.

Poetic

>>16060227
I think failure to relight is much less likely than simply blowing up when they try to relight

>>16060005
>implying Biden isn't a perfect 3 if he can even remember who Elon is most days

>>16060013
I'm pretty sure you'd have to do those studies regardless of where you intend to land, no? Or were they landing in territorial waters and that changes things?

>>16060197
I'm gonna say 8, would be a bit stupid if they didn't manage it this time and IIRC Elon said anything short of "orbit" would be a failure for this one. There could be issues with the door or fluid transfer but I don't think that'd prevent reentry, even Raptor relight failure won't I assume because of the trajectory they chose (unless it blows of course, so maybe 7 or 8 but I'm gonna be optimistic and stick with 8).

>>16060117
NOOOOOOO IT DOESN'T COUNT AS A REAL ORBIT IF IT DOESN'T MAKE A FULL REVOLUTION

>finally get a chance to see starship launch
>its during spring break
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

>>16060164
>Payload door open
>No payload door close

>>16060197
9. I believe

can someone make a political compass specifically for spaceflight

>>16059560
trump was the best president for space, so i can see why elon would consider backing him

>>16060245
Artemis is Trump's baby and now Starship is core to it.

>>16060197
8

>>16060245
Eh, pulling the moon landing date forward might've accelerated things a bit but ultimately Bush creating commercial space or Obama not cancelling it had more impact because it allowed SpaceX to get where it is. Starship would still happen without Trump, maybe a bit slower if HLS plays out differently but they'd still work on it, whereas NASA not giving SpaceX a contract for F9 would've killed them.

>>16060228
SN11 but in space would fucking suck so much

>>16060245
shut up you stupid miga shill that title goes to kennedy and its not even fucking clsoe dont compare zion don to him and his legacy.

>>16060271
suddenly the USSF is reporting a sudden increase in space fog

>>16060272
that fucking coward killed Orion, I spit on philanderer John

>>16060197
partial relight

>>16060266
>maybe a bit slower
More like a decade, or two.

>>16060117
>that booster 360
It's going to slosh and explode again isn't it…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWxl921rMgM
quinoas

>>16060279
yep water hammer effect will rekt it

>>16060234
yes it doesn't count as orbital if it isn't on an orbital trajectory

>>16060286
k i n o

>>16060286
https://youtu.be/mJEBgjQIekE?si=Mu_CqeRjJ4w5WW7Y

>>16060279
How else booster supposed to come back in controlled manner?

>>16060286
The man really knew how to talk about space, for all his other faults. Seeing his speech at the IAC while all the visiting changs in the audience were squirming was fantastic.

>>16060296
Radial retrothrusters near the top of the booster. Just like HLS will already have when it goes to the moon

>>16060171
Weather 8 days ahead is pulling shit straight out of your ass.

>>16060300
It still needs to get back to the tower

>>16060304
I know? You don't need to flip 360 degrees to land on the tower arms

>>16060309
Because it turns 360 degrees and flies away.

>>16060313
Not if it can just thrust upwards without rotating

RS1 is on the pad

https://x.com/ablspacesystems/status/1765448697691684927?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

>>16060321
Shut up fag nobody cares IFT-3 is in a week

>>16060322
>in a week
Pending regulatory approval* :)

>>16060286
Based Pence

realistically what is the max launch capacity at the cape? The X-37b delay pushed so much shit back. They need new pads

>>16060244

>>16060291
>Supported electro shock therapy for homosexual reversal conversion
>I myself love sucking dick
Mike "The Electric Fence" Pence was still pretty based.

>>16060286
fuck it, I think the shuttle orbiter is awesome despite the shortcomings. It is iconic.

>>16060348
>all those rockets except Astra and at the most Ariane in libleft
what the fuck are you smoking Anon

>>16060348
>ULA and co.
>libertarian left
They're the exact opposite. Private companies which are only viable through copious government backing

lets go bitches

>16060351
Awful bait

>>16060365
did they get drunk while they were drawing that picture or what?

>>16060371
did you get retarded when you post that?

>>16060371
i would think they are not drunk, but it's some international stuff

>>16060380
Is this post niggerlicious or divine intellect?

>>16060234
retard
>>16060285
truth

Cancel MSR

>>16060286
>it's behind me isn't it

>>16060399
and dragonfly

>>16060197
2. Boostback fails again

Legally/Physically Starship can't launch

Humans will never walk on the moon ever again.

>>16060197
8 but the booster will fail before splashdown

>in 20 years humans traveling to the moon and mars will be normal and routine
we were born too early

>>16060411
Learn to read

>>16060441
Stop being racist.

>>16060448
We could be doing that now. If we'd gone with the EELV-based lunar program back in 2005 we could have been back on the moon a decade ago and then expanded operations almost geometrically once Falcon 9 started hitting its stride. But Mike Griffin had to have his Apollo on Steroids instead of a program that followed the original plan of the Space Transportation System.

most people are unaware that china has a space station

So why the fuck did they redact the hotstaging in the WB-57 footage?

>>16060441
>again
what did you mean by this?

>>16060463
I dont remember exactly the wording but it was something related to trade secrets, you know, propietary stuff , "i wont let you see my super dupper secret hotstaging event in 4k" type of stuff

>>16060463
Because SpaceX told them to

>>16060471
>>16060473
Really? I assumed it was some DOD boomer shenanigans.

>>16060477
Nah SpaceX doesn't like showing their stuff (especially explosions) if it's not them releasing it so they go for the full "muh proprietary info" stamp every time a FOIA request comes up (since it's their equipment being filmed, they're allowed to restrict what otherwise would be public domain by default as NASA footage if I'm not mistaken).

>>16060480
>>16060463
>>16060471
This might shock you but there is a lot more going on in hot staging that leads to an RTLS than just turning on the second stage engines and 4k video of the event would allow others (China) to figure out what they are doing.

>>16060500
Like what? Grid fin movements? RCS?

>>16060500
lmao
restricting footage is gay and there's nothing to be gleaned from it that you can't also see in the one they released themselves. The secret sauce is in the control algorithms anyways, not the observable

>>16060463
The Chinese might learn too much
It literally is this 99.99% of the time

>>16060197
Rolling.

it's another retarded "noooo this footage is bad you can't post it!" episode
NOAA, NASA, and now SpaceX. all have some faggy excuse

>>16060197
Who the fuck at NASA looked at this and said "yep, this is the system we want"?

>>16060533
The same people who were forced to look at the state of the competition.

>>16060533
Probably: if it works we win the space race, forever.

>>16060461
The other side of the coin is that most people probably just assume every country has a space station

>>16060533
t. wasnt there for the other entries

>>16060523
and that excuse is?

>>16060197
10

>>16060543
it somehow accidentally did an orbit and reentered over The Swamp®, and SpaceX filled the Starship cargo bay with a nuclear bomb!

>>16060549
and I FUCK THE FAA IN ASS! PERMANANTLY

>>16060543
There is no 10.

>>16060348
>the very best and the very worst rockets are on the liberty side of the liberty authority axis
>economic left/right is an extremely strong indicator of rocket quality
hmmm yes I see, Moon is a Harsh Mistresss time

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1765522615056453857

Breaking. Starship will be spinning to Mars for bit of gravity.

>>16060533
seethe harder.
starship btfos your favorite rocket

>>16060533
me

>>16060555
my bad I reread the post amd youre right. but I still think its a perfect 10

>>16060558
This isnt true. More lies from the liar in chief

>>16060533
would you rather have an anime girl

is this true?

>>16060564
do you have the one where she spreads her legs?

>>16060197
>Successful fluids transfer
Sounds sexy. I'll pick this one.

>>16060565
no
>>16060566
yes

>>16060564
she's all i need

>>16060533
The accountants

>>16060572
This is a tranny btw.

>>16060461
Is that more than salyut+progres+soyuz copy?

>>16060582
It's considerable more spacious at this point both the modules and spacecraft
(but yes)

>>16060586
*bly

>>16060582
More of a Mir copy than a Salyut copy at this point. Shenzhou is pretty Soyuz but at least its got a bit more legroom

>>16060572
leggsss

>>16060572
her friends are kinda gay ngl

>>16060578
She's not

John Carmack
@ID_AA_Carmack
·
3h
Spin gravity for space has been talked about since before I was born, but still hasn’t been demonstrated. @SpaceX
should Just Do It with a Dragon capsule, counterweight, and cable.
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
Starship will have a small spin on the way to Mars. Even a tiny gravity vector is better than none.

>>16060598
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>>16060598
same guy btw

>>16060589
>>16060586
>>16060582
The fact that Russia's new station is this (when they basically taught the Chinese human spaceflight) is disgraceful

>>16060601
But that's literally true except the state of the art in secret labs is not usually very far if at all ahead of what's visible in public done by companies

>>16060601
trivially true

>>16060603
It's a reasonable minimum viable product for them to work with and that fact that it's going into a polar orbit gives it some interesting capabilities that other stations don't seem to be pursuing. They're not going to get the full station up any time soon, but as long as they have some form of orbital destination operational the cosmonaut program won't stall out, which is the most important part. They'd have a lot harder time coming back from a manned spaceflight hiatus than we did.

>>16060603
>>16060615
maybe Woland will pay it a visit

>>16060543
>10
it goes just a bit more than one orbit

>>16060197
9 but the booster immediately explodes after decoupling

>>16060533
Because NASA knows moonship is going to be delayed until at least 2031-32, So they have a excuse to keep getting congress money for Artemis program until it gets cacelled

>>16060533
Potentially, the saviors of the United States.

>>16060565
No LLM will invent anything

>>16060558
From the same dude that said were gonna have cities on mars at this point

>>16060558
Just tether two together, it's not even that hard, god!

Spinning Starship on its own is a stupid idea

>>16060647
It IS a good trick though

>>16060647
Performing a function using less stuff is never a bad idea. And imagine how much easier it will be to live cleanly with even a tiny bit of gravity pulling all that dust down.

>>16059375
1 engine will explode on the pad leading to early abort, but because the flight computer had handover it will follow procedure and self destruct, taking out the tower and all nearby facilities and heavily damaging star factory

>>16060654
It's not even going "going down" , it is going toward the outside.

A tether is literally no stuff at all. There is no reason not to use it when you can have a perfect 0.3G toward the floor at a leisurely spin rate. It only needs to exist when you are cruising, and you can leave it in orbit if you want

>>16060658
This is a spacecraft, the floor is wherever they decide to put it.

Throw tethercels on the noose end of one while we rotate to Mars.

>>16060647
starship is 9m in diameter
it's literally big enough to turn into a spin station

>>16060399
>sad deku module

>>16060533
One very based Trump appointee who slid it in on her way out the door before Senator Administrator Skellington Nelson could pick National Team.

>easier access to space
>shows only BO as commercial space example
What is Wendover mean by this?

So is the SS going to to 1 orbit? or is it going to splash down 10 minuets after launch?

>>16060676
he's uninformed or living in denial for some reason.

>>16060679
45 minute flight or so.

>>16060679
Splash down near Indian ocean is likely. Their target altitude is 200 something km.

What’s gonna stop China or India from fishing starship out of the sea

>>16060719
The FTS system goes touch-sensitive after splashdown

Spacex should make a submarine. Oceanx

No starship is truly orbital because it always lands back on earth. that is the curse of starship, it's suborbital forever

>>16060735
They have to make a space helicopter.

>>16060745
Space Force could fund it

>>16060719
me

>>16060745
What is Falcon 9 had been inspired by a different reusable rocket from the 1990s?

>>16060735
PedoGuyX

Seriously what are they going to do with all these launchers

>>16060814
pick the 2 most promising and let the rest die an undignified death

>>16060816
Up to two, maybe.

>>16060197
9
it's called faith

>>16060814
The ones that can do EELV equivilant work with a single core will probably live. The ones that need a heavy upgrade and are are still barely out of the Soyuz/Antares class are a lot less likely to. I actually don't think any of these groups are very likely to succeed at their heavy evolutions.

why have we never done an impactor mission to jupiter? it would be easy, just do a flyby mission and miss.
to think it's just been sitting there this whole time and we've never once seen the clouds from the inside

>>16060356
it's very cool
it's just a bad spacecraft

>>16060676
This has been a problem with his videos in the past too, I believe he writes the script but the footage is put together by editors who can just be wrong, such as showing an atlas launch when talking about a falcon launch. It may also be that he or his editors let their bias show in this moment.

>>16060832
Galilieo dropped a probe into Jupiter back in 1995. It didn't include a camera but it probably wouldn't have been able to relay back much in the way of images if it had due to the gimped main antenna.

>>16060832
I remember the first time I smoked weed I just stared at this picture for like half an hour

we're so back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN120kCiVyQ

reminder that CCDev 1 in 2010 gave SNC money for dream chaser. It still hasn't flown yet.

>>16060938
There are probably zoomers posting here younger than that contract.

>>16060814
None of these are being built lmao

>>16060938
>Commercial Crew Development phase 1 (CCDev 1) consisted of $50 million awarded in 2010 to five US companies to develop human spaceflight concepts and technologies
>Sierra Nevada Corporation: $20M for development of the Dream Chaser

I suppose "gave money" is a technically accurate statement. They also got $300M over CCDev, CCiCap, and CPC phase 1, which seems a bit more important.

>>16060958
For $20M I bet I could go to space and back with some to spare.

>>16060954
Tianlong, zhuque, gravity and hyperbola are all in development by companies that have reached orbit
zhuque and hyperbola have done hop tests

>>16060963
Nope

>>16060967
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1748562171741585791
Here's the Zhuque-3 hopper being tested

https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1734121234617532628
And here's the Hyperbola-2 hopper being tested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk0umQAhoqQ
Here's first Tianlong-3 that's going to be launching (expendably) in June

>>16060676
EDS, he had a retarded tesla video a while ago which was full lf wrong information

>>16060814
bait more investment money with vaporware

>>16060676
whose video and why should I care?

>>16061018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0DmliiUFHk

this one probably, 4.4 mil subs and makes these mini documentaries about random topics

>>16061064
i just watched that a bit ago. it started out okay but then turned to shit about half way through. pleb tier drivel.

>>16061067
yes, thats why I don't watch his shit

i want delta ii have my babiees

>>16061122
You need to kill yourself only cleardeities get a pass.

Do you understand that this launch is probably the most important launch for Starship since its creation. It will test CRITICAL capabilities and functions. IT MUST WORK FLAWLESSLY

>>16061167
unless spacex goes bankrupt after, it's just another test

>>16061167
>GUYS HYPE OMG HYPE HYPE
Take your meds.

>>16061122
please explain the lore autism here

>>16061167
you're a five

>>16061182
out of five!

>>16061191
correct, the scale is out of five
it's a descriptor, not a score

>>16060841
how far did it get before exploding?

How do gas giants work? Does space just gradually transition into thicker and thicker atmosphere and then to a thick soup then to liquid and solid?

>>16061167
the 1st one was way more important

>>16061211
Very large planets that scooped up lots of shit yet not enough to become stars.

>>16061211
yeah that's how gas do
presumably it's stratified somewhat somehow

>>16060615
Salyut (Almaz) program is back
Full on military space station armed with autocannons

>>16061167
So long as they don't blow up the launch pad they're golden

>>16061221
>173 gram projectiles @ 850 m/s, 1800-2600 RPM
That's a very inefficient stationkeeping engine.

>>16060719
uh 4km of water

>>16059604
I will

>>16061167
Nah it's not that important. Falcon 1 flight 4 was the only actually important launch SpaxeX has ever done, and nothing will ever be that important again (which is a good thing)

>>16061292
haha based, I only use punctuation when I need to give a shit; it's kind of a pain because I typically only realize I give a shit half way through a post and that means I need to go back and actually capitalize things so I can use periods and real sentences instead of just splitting each little thought out into its own paragraph

>>16061211
>thick soup
You can just look up phase diagrams for hydrogen and helium dude, it's not that complex.

>>16061292
lol, i use capital letters if the post warrants it, not otherwise
you can make a clear post without the need for much punctuation or capital letters, nothing to do with apathy

>>16061293
It doesn't help that the (awesome) Falcon team is separate from the Raptor/Starship (prone to failure) team.

>>16061295
>>16061297
t. fags

>>16061298
that's because one team's job is to break shit quickly to get it working and the other's job is to maintain a working system

Raptor is reliable

>>16061297
capitalize your 'I's you absolute barbarian

>>16061298
I think you completely missed my point.
F1 flight 4 was important because failing the launch would have ended SpaceX and cemented all of spaceflight into the dark timeline.
If Starship flight 3 fails, the consequence is another several month delay before the next launch, and probably some increased stress on the Starship HLS development team.

>>16061303
LoL, i use capitaL Letters if the post warrants it, not otherwise
you can make a cLear post without the need for much punctuation or capitaL Letters, nothing to do with apathy

>>16061310

>>16061297
>>16061295
But why would I read a message that you admit you don't give a shit about? I feel somewhat vindicated if I just don't read lower cap posts, since by your own description they're low quality and low effort. That's good to know

>>16061317
low effort posts are not equivalent to low quality posts, anon
and just because I expend effort doesn't mean something is worth reading

>>16060461
I had a friend that thought the ISS was gonna be abandoned after the shuttle was shitcanned, he straight up didn't know that the soyuz was a thing.

>>16061320
If it takes effort to press Shift, I'm not sure the author is capable of writing anything very important in general

>>16061322
so you just let that faggot tim cuck do it for you huh? phoneposter-kun

>>16061310
seething lmao

wordcels on suicide watch due to some missing capital letters

>>16060598
>>16060658
Don't you think the largest Sierra Space LIFE module would make a decent spin gravity station?

At 19m that gives you mars G at 6 rpm

>>16060598
>>16060658
Don't you think the largest Sierra Space LIFE module would make a decent spin gravity station?

At 19m that gives you mars G at 6 rpm

>>16061303
Capitalizing i is a sign of egomania and undesirable in anonymous discussion.

>>16061342
6rpm is above the nausea limit for most people.

>>16061352
Only need to find 4-6 people for the mars mission

>>16061342
>5.3 cubic kilometers

>>16061344
zased.... i kneel....

>>16060832
Skygina

>>16060227
It's not even going to Hawaii. So much for your powers of prediction.

>>16060313
HLS will moonwalk

>>16060457
based Artemis supporter

>>16060565
Chinese username, btw

>>16061342
wow look at the cubic kilometers of space

>>16059424
>The whole World will see a chinese flag on the moon in 4k for the firts time
reminder that modern Chinese Cameras are still worse than 1970s German cameras.

>>16060245
ahem

25% raptor failure rate bros how we holding up before this launch?

>>16061502
They had the benefit that they took those on film and lugged it back to Earth, now everyone is slapping some 2010 era GoPro on their 100 million lander and sending it here through dial-up speeds

>>16061512
It's 2024. Any radio hobbyist can build an antenna to receive signals from the moon at high speed.

>>16061507
Fuck him, we could've had Saturn outposts by 1980 but no, "muh provocation"

>>16061507
The best thing he did for space was die because it actually made everyone feel like it had to get done.

is saying that the light coming out of a laser is coherent the same as saying that the light coming out of a laser is only of a single wavelength/frequency

>>16061523
It also needs to be in phase

>>16061527
would there be any visual difference between monochromatic non-coherent light and monochromatic coherent light?

>>16061358
>>16061464
5378 cubic meters is not 5.3 cubic kilometers.

A cubic kilometer is 1000*1000*1000 cubic meters, or a billion cubic meters.

>>16061540
Newfag doesnt know

>>16061540
disagree

>>16061530
Google speckle

>>16061540
imagine being this bad at metric

>>16061544
thanks

>>16061464

bruh

>>16061579
Why haven't they tried gorilla glue yet

>>16061579
What's next, wind knocks down few tiles?

>>16061292
u r a fag

>>16061579
i can only assume they have stopped tile development years ago and wont restart until they get reentry data

>>16061317
You are the bigger retard here

>>16061586
blackpilling if true. Maybe Starship is just F9+

>>16061579
YOLO WE GAAN

>>16061590
Starship is StolenX. Nothing about it is new, Musk just walked in with money bags and bought it all and stole it from NASA. Look up DC-X. Becomes obvious why they named it Space-X, they stole the X too. ScamX
https://youtu.be/K5GevpAGDWE

>>16061579
https://files.catbox.moe/vbvv14.mp4

>>16061595
The letter X is public domain after the trademark on it expired

>trademarking a literal letter

>>16061618
I have a trademark on the word "literal" and you now owe me ten cents because you used it.

>>16061595
>three month old lightning t03 video
you should really just kill yourself

for any non-retards who want to link to videos without giving them clicks, you can use an invidious instance
https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=K5GevpAGDWE

>>16061579
You need to put more effort into the shoops.

>>16060938
>>16060958
SNC was one of three Commercial Crew finalists, but they didn't get a contract for operational flights. Nearly ten years later, of the two companies that did, SpaceX has flown 53 people to the ISS, and Boing! has flown 0.

>>16061628
>"Boeing doesn't roll out of bed for less than $1bn"
How true that quote is.

>>16061579
Kek I thought they'd already redesigned the vents for this a while ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyyjtAfBNLA
S29 getting tested

>>16061641
Spin prime, if IFT-3 goes perfectly then another flight in 2 or even 1 month is possible since no incident form needs to be filled out

>>16061642
I doubt its going to go perfectly but seems like the less and less severe incidents are the quicker it is to do the report

>>16061656
I'm sick of the FAA acting like a rocket exploding is an "incident" that requires deep investigation costing hundreds of manhours. It's a rocket, sometimes they explode, get over it FAAgs.

>>16061678
retard
SpaceX would be doing the investigation anyways because they need to know what went wrong, this way the FAA also has a bit of insight and doesn't have to just believe SpaceX that everything with their controlled explosion is totally under control, trust us.

>>16061688
The FAA was not invited, does not need to be there, isn't wanted, isn't liked, and should be abolished with malice. FAA apologists go against the wall.

>>16061552
Starship is a capsule, and not a spaceplane

Anyone work for oldspace companies?
Seriously what is the internal reaction to Starship?
I find it hard to believe there is no panic...